Topic: Tom Delonge

The hosts discuss the case of Chris Bledsoe and warnings from Tom DeLonge regarding the nature of non-human entities. A listener's letter suggests that physical healings performed by these entities may involve "soul corruption" or subconscious eternal contracts. Rom X notes that his own contact experiences have not involved such requests for biological samples like hair.

The X-Files revival seasons featured a "Spartan virus" plotline that some viewers viewed as a prediction of the COVID-19 pandemic. Characters in these episodes were reportedly modeled after figures like Alex Jones and Richard Dolan, incorporating themes from the 2015 Secret Space conference in San Mateo. Tom DeLonge and Catherine Austin Fitts are identified as figures present during the development of these later storylines.

Real-world events frequently mirror X-Files plotlines, such as Kyle Odom's White House fence jumping mirroring the episode "Three Words." Other instances include UFO investigator Max Spears reportedly coughing up black liquid before his death and hacker Gary McKinnon discovering "off-world" files in Pentagon systems. These events suggest a piercing of the veil between fictional narratives and physical reality.

The conversation evaluates the claims of Tom DeLonge and his role as a potential intelligence asset for the government. Rom X compares DeLonge's information to that of Gary Nolan and Jacques Vallee, noting a shared focus on non-local consciousness and remote viewing. They discuss the concept of breakaway civilizations and the possibility that ancient advanced humans transitioned into light-based entities.

The failure of To the Stars Academy (TTSA) is discussed, with Knowles suggesting the operation may have been intended to "kill ufology" by associating it with an embarrassing public failure. He critiques Tom DeLonge’s appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience as a "humiliating self-own." He posits that the establishment figures involved, such as Chris Mellon and Luis Elizondo, miscalculated DeLonge's cultural relevance.

The conversation touches on the decline of Tom DeLonge's To The Stars Academy and the credibility issues facing Luis Elizondo. Knowles speculates that the "Watcher Cult" may eventually embed itself within established religious infrastructures like the Vatican or Protestant churches. He points to a controversial statue at St. Louis University as an example of demonic or Mithraic symbolism hiding in plain sight at a Jesuit institution.

The discussion examines Gnosticism as presented in the book Secret Machines by Peter Lavenda and Tom DeLonge. While one perspective views Gnosticism as an empowering philosophy that identifies physical reality as a pliable illusion, Weishaupt expresses concern that it serves the elite's plan to invert traditional moralities.

Greg Carlwood and Grant Cameron discuss the suspicious timing of MKUltra and Project Artichoke in relation to early UFO crashes. Cameron suggests that if the military recovered a live alien capable of telepathy, their immediate goal would be to replicate that "mind-cracking" ability for Cold War espionage. He posits that the government's interest in consciousness was driven by the desire to manipulate world leaders rather than spiritual enlightenment.

Dr. Greer discusses his past mentorship of Tom DeLonge and criticizes the "To The Stars Academy" (TTSA) for promoting a narrative that frames UFOs as a national security threat. He argues that this framing is a deliberate intelligence community spin designed to maintain a war footing. He warns that any overt ET contact would be manipulated by mainstream media to incite public terror.

Chris Knowles references John Poindexter’s observation that there are very few actual players in the world of intelligence and ufology. He points to the To The Stars Academy, noting that names like Christopher Mellon, Hal Puthoff, and Jim Semivan have been circulating in these circles for decades. This small group of "movers and shakers" maintains credibility and resumes that allow them to direct the narrative of the paranormal.

Greg Carlwood compares the human-centric approach of Stivelman's film to the militaristic lens of Tom DeLonge's To The Stars Academy. Citing Dr. Diana Pasulka, Carlwood suggests that the phenomenon is deeply tied to religious and spiritual experiences that military-focused groups may be overlooking. He encourages listeners to support independent filmmakers like Stivelman to ensure higher-quality opportunities for the podcast and the field of ufology.

The discussion turns to Tom DeLonge and his claims that the Roswell incident involved a Nazi bell rather than extraterrestrials. The guests suggest that such narratives might be "weaponized disclosure" or a smear campaign intended to discredit serious ufology. They question if these stories are dangled to secure defense funding or cover for state-of-the-art technology from the U.S., Russia, or China.

Carlwood recaps the second hour of the interview, which covered "weaponized disclosure" and the role of figures like Tom DeLonge. They discussed the possibility that advanced technology like electrogravitic craft may remain exclusive to the military even after disclosure. The segment also touched on a deeper perspective of panspermia as a constant, ongoing process.

The conversation touches on the potential for disinformation in the work of figures like Tom DeLonge and the broader political war within the paranormal community. Burns suggests that the revelation of these truths could lead to the end of traditional religious institutions, including the Catholic Church under Pope Francis.

Host Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview, noting the significance of a UFO book being published by Oxford University Press. He discusses the concept of "soft disclosure" and the difficulty of whistleblowers coming forward within a cynical alternative community. The segment emphasizes the need for a middle ground where insiders can share information without facing immediate hostility or legal repercussions from non-disclosure agreements.

Griffin expresses his frustration with the current state of the UFO community, criticizing the lack of interest in direct contact and the rise of "super soldier" narratives. He discusses his decade-long support for hacker Gary McKinnon, who faced extradition to the US after finding evidence of "non-terrestrial officers" in Pentagon files. Griffin notes that despite the high stakes, many prominent figures in ufology prefer abstraction over physical investigation.

The host reflects on the difficulty of practicing true mindfulness and ritual magic, admitting to wasting time on Netflix and video games like Overwatch instead of spiritual work. He mentions books by Jordan Peterson and Tom DeLonge as unread goals. Carlwood posits that most people settle for simplistic religious models because the actual work of exploring the astral plane or performing sigil magic requires significant discipline and effort.

Alex Tsakiris criticizes the UFO disclosure narrative promoted by Tom DeLonge and the New York Times as a "charade" that ignores the spiritual and consciousness-related aspects of the phenomena. He contrasts DeLonge's focus on hardware and free energy with the profound ontological shifts reported by DMT researchers like Rick Strassman. The segment suggests the official disclosure movement is a controlled narrative designed to steer public inquiry away from deep spirituality.

The recent Pentagon acknowledgment of UFOs and Tom DeLonge's claims about emerging deep-state technologies are framed as literal manifestations of the upcoming "Air" period. The hosts explore the idea that the transition from Earth to Air symbols will involve a shift from physical resource ownership to information and "aerial" technologies. This period between 2000 and 2020 is described as a time when the future has already started, but collective assumptions are still catching up to the new reality.

White compares the 2017 events to the 9/11 attacks, which he views as a ritual rededication of the Pentagon for a new national mission. He suggests the Las Vegas event served a similar purpose for NASA, signaling a pivot toward official disclosure of alien life and advanced technology. He argues that these large-scale "civic sacrifices" are used by the elite to ensure the success of difficult geopolitical transitions.