Friday, 1 May 2020

Dr. Steven Greer | Close Encounters Of The Fifth Kind: Contact Has Begun

A pioneer of the Disclosure Project reveals the trans-dimensional physics of consciousness and the covert cabal suppressing extraterrestrial contact from the public eye.

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About this episode

Dr. Steven Greer returns to the program to detail the launch of his documentary, Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind: Contact Has Begun, and the refined CE-5 protocols for conscious extraterrestrial communication. Greer asserts that the military-industrial complex uses scalar weapons and longitudinal electronic systems to down trans-dimensional craft, citing FBI records from agent Guy Hottel to J. Edgar Hoover regarding the 1947 Roswell incident. He warns that the current global climate is being manipulated to prepare the public for a staged alien threat.

Secondary stories include a critique of the COVID-19 response in the United States compared to South Korea, with Greer suggesting the pandemic serves as a beta test for population control. The discussion highlights the 1997 Pentagon briefing where Admiral Thomas Wilson was denied access to UFO programs by private contractors, a catalyst for the 2001 Disclosure Project. Greer references the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research lab and Dr. Robert Jahn to validate how human intention influences random number generators. Additional claims involve a 1954 meeting between President Eisenhower and extraterrestrials at Edwards Air Force Base and the suppression of free energy technologies by the global oil industry.

Quotable moments include Greer’s description of the hardened nuclear self-destruct mechanisms at Area 51 and his critique of Tom DeLonge’s To The Stars Academy for framing UFOs as a national security threat. Host Greg Carlwood questions the $3,000 price tag for private CE-5 expeditions, while Greer defends the costs as necessary for a global operation independent of corporate funding. The episode concludes with a cover of Mr. Spaceman by The Byrds.


CHAPTER 01 / 23 Discussion

Higher Side Chats Plus Membership, Franklin Delano Roosevelt Fireside Chats

Greg Carlwood introduces the podcast, detailing the benefits of the Higher Side Chats Plus membership, including archives, forum access, and monthly joint sessions. He references President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's 1930s radio broadcasts as the inspiration for the show's name. The introduction acknowledges the current societal pause and economic pressure caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

greg carlwood· higher side chats plus· franklin delano roosevelt· fireside chats· coronavirus

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00:51 Which means you'll unfortunately never hear my voice again. 1930s President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed the nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the fireside chats His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times. I'm Greg Carlwood These are the Hireside Chats. Well, rock me like a hurricane, Hireside Chatters! From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and it's no surprise that these are troubled times as the coronavirus chaos still has society on pause, the economic pressure is ramping up and many of the curiosities concerns and solutions we've been discussing for nearly a decade seem to be a lot less hypothetical lately

CHAPTER 02 / 23 Discussion

Dr. Steven Greer, CE-5 Protocols and Close Encounters Documentary

Dr. Steven Greer returns to the program to discuss his work with the Disclosure Project and his refined process for conscious communication with extraterrestrial beings known as CE-5. The conversation highlights Greer's history of briefing U.S. presidents and his new documentary, Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind: Contact Has Begun. The film features contact footage and personal accounts of trans-dimensional interactions.

steven greer· ce-5· disclosure project· close encounters of the fifth kind· bill clinton

01:51 That said, there are guests we've spoken with over the years who have tried to tell us that a major key to global flourishing and breaking through the energy financial and political control structure is forming a stronger relationship with the higher intelligences all around us. Call them space brothers beans of light or any other term people tend to use but there are indications and examples that show while they do have a policy of non-intervention They can be summoned up for help if you only ask And wouldn't you know it, returning guest Dr. Steven Greer has been trying to tell us about this for a long time as he's developed and refined his process of conscious communication with these beings through a protocol he calls CE-5

02:32 Dr. Greer is well known for his heading of the Disclosure Project back in the mid-90s that gathered together a wide range of government and military insiders willing to come forward with what they've seen and heard about UFO's, and the alien presence on Earth He has written several books been the subject of several documentaries And has sent a briefing package on this subject to every president since Bill Clinton He joins us today in preparation for the release of his newest documentary, which is about the CE-5 experience called Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind Contact Has Begun. Which becomes available to purchase digitally on April 7th and available to rent on April 21st

03:10 It's a documentary that contains a lot of compelling contact footage and personal accounts, and I'm psyched to have him here again after six long years to talk about it. The disclosure-seeking doctor, direct experience advocate, and the undisputed CE5 Contact King—Dr. Stephen Greer, welcome back to the higher side! Thank you. Very glad to be with you Yeah, man This is a real pleasure though We are recording in the midst of coronavirus chaos and it's hard not to at least say something about it Obviously the show must go on this too shall pass and all that but consciousness-to-consciousness contact with multi-dimensional entities might not be People's top priority right now though maybe it should be It should yeah

CHAPTER 03 / 23 Discussion

COVID-19 Pandemic Management, South Korea vs United States Response

Dr. Steven Greer critiques the United States' handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, contrasting it with the more effective surveillance and testing measures implemented in South Korea. He notes that government scientists were aware of the threat as early as December but failed to contain it. The discussion covers the strategy of flattening the curve to prevent hospital overcrowding and the potential for herd immunity.

coronavirus· south korea· italy· herd immunity· pandemic management

03:54 I know this has affected the live premiere of the documentary, which i'm sorry to hear. But it's rare to be speaking with a medical doctor who is also well aware of high-level government operations to say make ETs look like some type of dangerous national security threat and when we know that's in the cards It's hard to trust them on anything but before we dive into the CE5 thing What are your thoughts on this current situation and the unprecedented level of control that's currently being exercised over this? Well, of course the coronavirus crisis is largely because we didn't do anything in December and January when we should have. And once that monster got out of its cage there had to be good surveillance testing to be able to contain it now for South Korea thing or some other places did that and it was very effective

04:47 United states chose not to the worst order following the italian model where none of that happened and now the entire country is in lockdown. And we have largest number of cases in the world and probably will end up with unfortunately the largest number of deaths so you know it's just a complete meltdown and governance and management from the top down started in january by the way i have friends who work with, The government or who still are with government who are PhD scientists with the army by a warfare division NASA elsewhere. And they've all had this on their radar since December early December and have just been astonished that nothing was done to contain it because that's the past three months ago now we have to look at what we're going to do going forward and I think your listeners need understand

05:42 What they're trying to do is stretch out this pandemic so it's not all at once. That's why they're having everyone locked down because if it's all at once, you know I'm an emergency and trauma doctor by training and you get so overwhelmed with the numbers of cases You don't have enough ventilators? You don't have enough ICU beds You don't have enough personnel and as you know there are dozens of doctors who died in nurses that have died from this now. But then you start getting your health care workers or sick and out which is who's going to save your life if you get extremely sick with it? So the problem is that there's not any of the equipment, supplies personal protective equipment mask goggles

06:29 anything that we should have none of that was planned for so now were sort of behind the curve. About three months and there is a lot of bad courses that were in a real mess, can we be looking at thirty plus percent unemployment rate i think people really have to understand how we got here but going forward I'm hoping then there's some good news on the horizon here. There's a quick five minute test that's just been developed so that if they could stand up millions of those, we can find out who actually is infected that may be having no symptoms with the carrier who isn't and in five minutes you would know if you're not infected and once you had enough people who you knew were not infected

07:14 then those could be doing something. Or if someone had gotten antibodies to it, which they're doing an antibody test which shows that you've been infected even if you didn't know it, you'd have some relative immunity there's some debate how immune you are or if it's complete or partial but most likely if you did get exposed again not have a severe case similar to like when you get the flu shot Even if it's not exactly the right strain of the flu and that blue shot is still less than the symptoms. When you do get the flu then if you didn't have it so ultimately what will happen about sixty percent population gets this would have what's called herd immunity which is when it stops propagating concern people already have resistance to it but yeah that theoretical at this point we don't know and

CHAPTER 04 / 23 Discussion

COVID-19 Skepticism, Population Control Beta Test Claims

The discussion shifts to skepticism regarding COVID-19 death statistics and the accuracy of testing, citing reports from Italy about underlying illnesses. Dr. Greer suggests the pandemic response might serve as a beta test for population control. He claims to know the true origins of the virus but declines to share specifics to avoid being banned from YouTube.

covid-19· italy· flu shot· population control· youtube censorship

08:05 Yes i know people who are here in dc right now and new york is a very big problem california headed the way unfortunately new york is now. So i think people have to sort of understand that there's gonna be some serious disruptions of society for at least two or three more months, Right absolutely and i know this is our main topic but i am curious if you think a little of this is overkill because the test i've seen her only fifty percent accurate at best half the people are asymptomatic bloomberg just released, peace that says ninety nine percent of the people who died in italy had.

08:42 other illnesses. The average age of the deaths are over 80, and they're also categorizing pneumonia deaths as coronavirus deaths which is not necessarily what you should do. And on the subject to the flu shot there was a study released that the influenza vaccine actually makes you more susceptible to other respiratory viruses because it gives you antibodies for the flu specifically. But people who tend to get the flu naturally develop a wide range of antibodies for other, uh, respiratory viruses and so there's a lot of talk about people who got the flu shot in 2019 are they? Are they the ones that were having worse symptoms today? So I mean their shutting everything down and again tests are not that accurate half

09:26 people are asymptomatic at best and this seems like much ado about nothing. I don't know about all these deaths, they don't necessarily seem to be from something new." Well that's going to be sorted out later right now we have live with the fact that the state is doing this one of my concerns is that it may be a beta test to see to what extent they can control the population in advance of other things and as you know back Many years ago when president clinton had me come up to brief him in a director on the ufo issue, what are the big concerns we had with that secrecy around that subject extreme. That neither the president nor the ci director and i spent three hours without directors of the CIA

10:15 briefing him had been allowed any information on it. So there's a unacknowledged special access project level of secrecy that has resulted in people that you think might know what they're doing running the country are kind of flying blind without radar, and that is certainly the case on many of these issues and the question of whether there's some nefarious interest that has set up not only this pandemic as well Response is to be determined. I can't really say too much about that

10:52 but I can assure you that it's not what everyone is being told. Right, you actually recorded a video about this and said if you told people what you knew about COVID-19 and where it came from your YouTube channel would be banned Correct And there was a lot of that going around the banning Yep But I guess I'm willing to take the risk to a degree but maybe can you give us breadcrumbs or something because a lot of folks are looking for answers right now they're stuck in kind of paranoia panic and they kinda need something Well, I don't think what I would say would ameliorate that. I can assure you that whatever it is that people are saying about the origins of this virus are not accurate and this is known by government scientists, people with PhD's in molecular biology genetics who work with the army bio warfare division so all I'm saying is that its out there and its loose and the response to it we're going have to figure out how to come together as a

CHAPTER 05 / 23 Discussion

Trans-dimensional Physics, Consciousness-Based Extraterrestrial Contact

Dr. Greer explains the science behind CE-5, distinguishing between extraterrestrial beings from other star systems and entities from other dimensions. He describes ET technology as interfacing directly with consciousness and thought through trans-dimensional physics. The goal of the CE-5 protocols is to use mass meditation and remote viewing to establish a "cosmic internet of awareness" for direct contact.

trans-dimensional· interstellar· remote viewing· telepathy· quantum physics

11:49 I think actually this documentary close encounters of the fifth time i have a lot of answers what's gonna happen because people need to come together and higher consciousness and connected to something that is. Deep level connection, In awareness to be able to make it through this but also we need a start making direct contact with these advanced civilizations and bypass the government which is so dysfunctional. So while everyone's on lockdown one of the things that everyone should be looking at, is your how do I use this time wisely if im not going into work and going out doing things i think people learning how to meditate to do

12:33 Close encounters of the fifth kind protocols which enable you to remote view using consciousness civilizations i want to be clear because you mentioned a whole bunch of stuff in the intro that are kinda mixed together. The protocol directed towards making contact with what i call td is trans dimensional interstellar, Civilizations and those are ones that are obviously from other star systems, but they traverse other dimensions. There are other beings and other dimension that are not et and these get all much together we're specifically talking about making contact with extraterrestrial. What is the weather plan at start this month if they're going through space

13:20 Add multiple to the speed of light but you have to those technologies mean that your traversing other dimensions is why they're often called trans dimensional or interdimensional because you're not able to go straight line at the speed of light. You're from the drama galaxy which is two and a half million light years from here it would take you five million years to get here and get back. If you are going at close to the speed of light so we know that their technology or very advanced and communication technology, are fascinating because they interface not just with consciousness and thought directly, telepathically but also with their electronic systems. They have like we would have an iPhone or a cell phone or computer they have technologies that are very advanced electronics across into these other dimensions called transdimensional physics and can interface with

14:15 directed coherent thought and that's what we're doing with close encounters of the fifth time it really amazing process. Probably a hundred thousand people around the world now doing this, we need to grow about seventy or eighty million people for the documentary is about bringing awareness showing evidence for this and also showing the science of consciousness the way that can be very powerful by the way There been a lot of studies and consciousness in remote healing using mind at the time like this our civilization could be advanced greatly by people joining together and math meditation and math consciousness doing things for a positive purpose.

CHAPTER 06 / 23 Discussion

Black Projects, Suppression of Free Energy and Medical Technology

The conversation explores the existence of unacknowledged special access projects that operate outside of presidential or congressional oversight. Dr. Greer asserts that these projects possess advanced electromagnetic technologies that could provide free energy and cure major diseases. He argues these breakthroughs are suppressed to protect the interests of the global oil industry and the petro-dollar system.

black projects· petro-dollar· free energy· disclosure· star trek technology

15:00 There's nothing the good come out of here and panic or even the rage of whatever conspiracy have put up in the situation where. The other reason we need to make open contact that thing that would lead to disclosure about founded the disclosure movement in the nineteen ninety, And what i found was that the leaders of these countries and the united nations really don't have control over the super secret black project that are run amok. Add a problem with that is you can't really appeal to political process fix this problem it gotta be fixed by the masses of people, really is we the people for a moment and

15:40 One of the outcomes of that would be we would have amazing technology that would come out of full disclosure on this what am i talking about everyone knows that these ufo's are running using. Exxon jet a fuel or rocket things from the forty like that they're using very advanced electronic, Electromagnetic field systems, but those same system supplied to healing or eradicating a virus would obliterate any sort of cancer or virus. Virtually instantaneously be sort of like the star trek episodes where they have those devices they run over someone that sounds science fiction but i've actually been in a classified lab near the mexican texas border, underground were seen these technologies is not an urban man. But those are being kept secret because it does for brought up from medical purposes people would figure out they could also be used for energy generation and it would terminate the petro dollar oil

16:42 I call the petro nazis who are running the planet into the ground so this is all part and parcel of a huge problem that's been 100 years in the making of secrecy. It isn't gonna get sick except by people coming together and i think bypassing the government, am i can direct contact with civilization which would then lead to the kind of disclosure that we're talking about that would bring out these sciences and technology actually didn't have called action for people to do something besides Just be perennially pissed off at the state of the world. Sure and let me cut in here because it's interesting that there is a lot of speculation that major elements of the technology we do have were seeded from recovery of alien technologies some say the transistor itself rapid development computers internet smartphones all that would fall on the category and these are the technologies especially now,

CHAPTER 07 / 23 Discussion

Scalar Weapons, FBI Records of the Roswell UFO Crash

Dr. Greer discusses the 1947 Roswell incident, citing an FBI document from agent Guy Hottel addressed to J. Edgar Hoover. He claims the craft were downed by scalar or longitudinal electronic weapons disguised as radar systems. He argues that the military-industrial complex has been actively hostile toward ET craft for decades to maintain a narrative of fear.

roswell· guy hottel· fbi· scalar weapons· j. edgar hoover

17:35 that seem to be ushering in a sort of technocracy over us where google and facebook decides what conversations can be had, and if the economic system is digitized it can be further controlled. You're talking about these advanced technologies and how they could be applied medicine maybe even free energy devices travel but if we have this oligarchy use these technologies and as you said maybe we need to bypass them but then i would ask what the cfi protocol have you ever been given these technologies are blueprints from because if this means one is to have a new having thousands of interactions with them, let's buy past the elite and let's get those devices in the hands of people have they given you anything physical.

18:17 Well, they haven't given me personally anything physical. There's a Naval Research Lab scientist who was given a physical device that I have a 3D generator copy of it we're not sure how it might be used. I showed it on my last YouTube video on Saturday that we did live people can go to see this at youtube.com slash Dr. Steven Greer 55 doctor is DR Even with the and i think what you're asking is something get put in a car before the horse civilization don't.

18:53 Interfere that way until the civilization that they're contacting is out of state of readiness but i gave it to this navy scientist now waiting. No just see that's another urban met dating give anything we shot third damn spacecraft down so people think that ross well was you look you don't go through interstellar distance can navigate a thunderstorm in new mexico, If you look at the FBI document that I got hold of, that i released for the disclosure project. There is a field report from Guy hotel who was an agent for the FBI in New Mexico because that's where all our nuclear assets were

19:33 who stated that the disk recovered in New Mexico was the result of a new quote radar system. I'll explain why he put quotes around that in a moment, that was activated that caused these to crash and there were actually three that went down two that hit each other very close to Roswell one went down near town the other continued west near Socorro about three or four years later they found one northwest of their up up in the mountains in New Mexico. That was from the same event, but that was a what's called a scalar or longitudinal electronic weapon discharge that they were experimenting with that were in the radar dome so a lot of radar systems the military have have piggybacked on them active warfare electronic warfare systems and those systems and that's what this document is talking about it was written directly to J Edgar Hoover This is the most

20:29 viewed document on the FBI website period. And when we put that out people went can this be true? So what you have to understand is that once we figured out some of the electronics and technologies, that these civilizations might be using which were really being studied in the 40s and 50s, We began an active process of downing these ET craft which is galactically stupid and dangerous I always tell people the reason we know that these civilizations are hostile if they have not punched back and if they had. Our civilization would've known it a very long time ago but the intelligence community want everyone to be afraid of aliens because if you're afraid, you're not gonna go out make contact with me that's how they kept everyone in the box here so the propagation appear through your phone subculture movies and hollywood like the movie alien

CHAPTER 08 / 23 Discussion

Wernher von Braun, False Flag Alien Invasion Threat

Dr. Greer references warnings from rocket scientist Wernher von Braun regarding a future "trump card" involving a hoaxed alien threat to unite the world under a new order. He criticizes figures like Neil deGrasse Tyson for using language that frames extraterrestrials as invaders. The segment suggests the current pandemic response mirrors the psychological preparation for a staged external threat.

wernher von braun· neil degrasse tyson· false flag· new world order· alien threat

21:22 All the independent a movie where you know let's unite the world again around kicking alien but one of my concerns about how this whole and demic is being handled let me just cut to the chase it sort of a beta test. The people can be controlled enough to unite against a quote common enemy which is how they're calling this virus but if you just replace the virus with alien. It would be the same plan and that's exactly what. Burner bond brown who was adolf hitler's rocket guy invented the rocket, On his deathbed, he said they're going to eventually pull this out of the trump card that we are having a threat from outer space and we can unite the world in some sort of new world order around this external threat from outer space. And that this is all alive it's all a hoax and if all the manipulation of the masses what

22:15 What's strange is that you have people like Neil deGrasse Tyson and others who actually called this virus, like invading space aliens at the whole world needs to unite against them fight. He's using that language and we know he's a mouthpiece for this cabal because he always denies the existence of evidence for UFOs and extraterrestrials so I think that whatever the origins of this coronavirus is, that wouldn't be appropriate for me to talk about right now. Because if I get shut down then I'm silent. I can just tell you I absolutely know where it came from and it's not what you're being told. Fair enough! Okay but the point is now we have an opportunity instead of running around like chickens with our heads cut off in terror

CHAPTER 09 / 23 Discussion

Maharishi Effect, One Percent Threshold for Social Change

Dr. Greer explains the "one percent" principle, citing studies where a small percentage of a population practicing meditation led to significant drops in crime and illness. He compares this to quantum phase transitions in helium, where a small amount of coherence affects the entire system. He posits that if 70 to 80 million people globally engage in CE-5, it would trigger a transformative shift in human civilization.

maharishi effect· mass consciousness· quantum coherence· meditation· social change

23:02 Is the come together with people and higher consciousness understand that all of space and time is accessible to the mind each individual and then we link those up like a computer network you create this math consciousness effect. That when they done study can't go over there in the documentary close encounters for the fifth kind if you can actually preorder it now on amazon and vimeo and items right now if you want to get it add, it will be live on the seventh of april but what we're saying is that if people connect like that they can actually overcome these problems and if you come to a quantum leap. Affect that transform civilization by human connecting up their own individual consciousness through this let's call it the cosmic internet of awareness cosmic awareness and intending,

23:56 A good outcome intending positive to happen and they done studies with this all the way back into the seventy i don't know if you know that before i was an emergency doctor. I was a meditation teacher and i went all over the world, meditation centers studying the Vedas and Sanskrit and all of this. There were studies that were done to show that if you put 1% of the population of let's say your town has 200000 people If you were to put 2000 people in that town no one else knew they were there just did these meditations that crime rates fell, illness fell. Emergency room visits fell violence and domestic violence fell and these studies have been verified and reproduced elsewhere so there's this amazing effect and it doesn't take 51% like in election very good news that you only need 1%. So instead of sort of the greedy gangbangers who are on Wall Street who control the whole world economy one percent or fractional one percent let's

24:57 Let's find the other one percent of conscious people. link up together and do something positive in mass consciousness that would create a shift on our planet. That would be so transformative that the change with the virtually instantaneous similar to one of the experiments we show in this documentary is the quantum physics experiment that showed at when 1% of the molecules of container helium become coherent by cooling it down absolute zero At that one percent mark, the entire container becomes what's called super fluid and very coherent.

25:35 Instantly in like one nanosecond so there is this big mass shift effect that can happen and i think that by people doing this it's not about an individual. Making contact with enough people in society doing that and that would be the signal to civilization, that we've actually reached a point of maturity or they will be increasingly indirect compact right now they're waiting Everyone's always blaming the e.t. if i go where they were waiting for us for seventy damn years to get all barb back in and do something, understand i think most people are ready for universal peace most people live a peaceful existence the elephant in the room is the elite and you just rest in the film how the powers that be wanna frame these beans of hostile military threat

CHAPTER 10 / 23 Discussion

Non-Intervention Policy, 1954 Eisenhower Meeting at Edwards Air Force Base

The discussion addresses why advanced civilizations do not directly intervene to stop human suffering or environmental destruction. Dr. Greer recounts a reported 1954 meeting between President Eisenhower and extraterrestrials, where the beings requested nuclear disarmament as a condition for open contact. He explains that ETs follow a policy of non-interference until humanity demonstrates a collective readiness for peaceful coexistence.

dwight eisenhower· edwards air force base· non-intervention· nuclear weapons· planetary stewardship

26:23 we can bypass that by forming this direct connection. But when I look at the history of UFO channelers or even the messages of contactees and reports from entheogenic contact, the messages are always these vague-sounding platitudes about love and stewardship of the planet—and hurting the planet it's it's the corporations that are destroying things at a scale that you and I don't even have the ability to do so what's the point telling us about it and i guess as someone who is. Add these contact experiences more than probably anyone ever talk too can you relay any deeper insight they shared about their own home world or there existence of the kind of detail specific information we would wanna know why don't they just go directly to the elite n

27:09 Inspire them to stop fucking everything up well because they know that the leads are actually making this whole situation bad, associate pads who wanted to be bad there's a great old saying the wiser day you speak not let me have here. If there is no one to listen there's no point in talking what happened in the fifties when president eisenhower This is not an urban math have a document from the french ministry of defense on this had a meeting with the near what's now edwards air force base in muroc. And they wanted eisenhower wanted to develop open contact and the requirement for that was that we become peaceful get rid of all these nuclear weapons and not go out into space with weapon,

27:54 And the cabal circle their wagons and isolated eisenhower so he lost control of the secret project. The president no longer control the levers of the super secret projects that sort of became an entity unto itself and that was about in nineteen fifty six. So for about sixty four years now this thing is been off the rails and out of control so these civilizations know that, The very people who have that kind of control that you're talking about are not people who are going to be particularly open, but they know exactly what you said is my point. Most people on earth or peaceful most people on earth are not sociopaths want to destroy the biosphere and have wars most people are not crazy kinda like Dr strange love people who wanna see Armageddon but we have to stop being passive

28:47 Any can't just be one person doing a trip it's gotta be bunch of people doing things together this is my point and so that's what the civilisations are waiting for their simply not gonna do, i'm at intervention because if they did go back to the old. Persian saying who's gonna be listening the other problem is that what i've learned from the civilizations from my own experience have been eighteen When i had a really amazing contact experience up in the blue ridge mountains of north carolina. First year college student if they want us to be able to be equals with them communicating with them they don't wanna be in the position of being sort of either, demons are angels or god from space is all wrong thinking they want us awake and who we are inside. And then develop a relationship with their civilizations that are centered around

29:47 Enlighten principal the consciousness and peace and open contact these other things happen second to that. You're putting the cart before the horse thinking that i mean these solutions are not gonna land on, the super bowl field during halftime and say here is a transdimensional energy device go fix your planet with it They're waiting for us to have an appropriate. Response to them and instead what we do rely about it with great theory methodologies about it, we shoot them down everything but any well but we allow it. But they should contact the people that you and your listeners get off the hook here ok let's just stop this conversation lets go back to world war two

CHAPTER 11 / 23 Discussion

Grassroots Disclosure, Failure of Political Leadership

Dr. Greer argues that waiting for top-down disclosure from the government is futile because political leaders are intimidated by the covert cabal. He compares the current public passivity to the lack of resistance against the Nazi regime in pre-WWII Germany. He emphasizes that the CE-5 movement is designed to democratize contact and bypass dysfunctional power structures through individual responsibility.

disclosure project· department of state· grassroots· political leadership· world war ii

30:34 If the German people had stood up to the handful of sociopaths who are brown shirts and Nazis, World War II would have never happened. But the people didn't. The people sat on their hands in fear. What I'm saying is we, the people have to stand up in a nonviolent revolution that changes this and kvetching about it isn't going to fix it so You know, we've got to go beyond complaining and raging against the storm. We actually have to say okay what are the solutions for this situation? And even to bring out the technologies that would fix the environmental as well as these viral and other illnesses you're going to have a critical mass of humans who understand this issue and are enlightened because otherwise those technologies are gonna be used as weapons again so were in this conundrum

31:27 It's a catch twenty two where everyone waiting for some external powers to be the fix it and the power of the bee are happy to keep status quo going because they're the one milking the planet, how are money the way it is and so this is weird than individual responsibility. and taking responsibility for our relationship to the off planet visitors but land in the lap of every single individual human that there's no escaping that simple point when i was in my. Thirty forty five is doing these briefings remember congressman head of the united nations then,

32:07 Royal families in Europe and the president, CIA director. I've met with every strata of leadership on this planet none of them were willing to take the risk that go up against this cabal of psychopaths that are running these covert programs because they know how lethal they are so This is why I took That process that was going on in the 90's and started The Global Disclosure Project To bring this information out because it was made very clear to me from various world leaders they weren't going to touch this with a 10-foot pole. They were terrified." And so I said, well our leaders will lead once the people establish a movement. So if the people will lead the leaders will follow you have to remember that but we don't have any leaders of the kind that we need in political office right now. Right? This is why i'm doing this movie. I left my medical career

32:57 to do this because I came to realize there is no leadership on this issue unless it gets out to the public. The public understands who these civilizations are, why they're here that they're waiting for an appropriate peaceful response from us and that us isn't going to be from our Department of State or foreign ministries it's going to be from the people. And so that's where we're trying to sort of democratize Move it out of the centers of this functional power into the hands of every day person who i think like you said are actually. Very good people who intend well but they just need to be educated about what issues are and then be given the tools and techniques for making contact and,

33:43 Establishing some sort of increasingly open relationship with the civilization right let me say i guess you know if we're talking about putting a cart before the horse and the idea of people doing nothing because they are afraid just complaining while the elite run amok isn't sitting out in the desert and having these ce5 experiences putting the cart before the horse because if the elite if the cabal is there these beings aren't going to do anything with this because they're saying hey you gotta fix this problem so anytime we go to have a ce-5 experience shouldn't we instead be rooting out the elite so that we can actually have the dialogue? Isn't starting the dialogue before the elite are taken care of kind of putting the cart before the horse too

CHAPTER 12 / 23 Discussion

Area 51 Security, Hardened Underground Facilities and Bunker Busters

Dr. Greer describes the extreme security measures at facilities like Area 51 and S4, noting they are hardened against even thermonuclear attacks. He claims these sites are rigged with conventional and tactical nuclear explosives to be destroyed instantly if breached. He uses this to illustrate why physical confrontation with the elite is impossible and why a shift in consciousness is the only viable path forward.

area 51· s4· bunker busters· tactical nuclear weapons· whistleblowers

34:27 Well unfortunately those folks you're not gonna take care of them in the way that is normally done to a violent altercation, you're gonna take care of them by creating a mass consciousness effect and created a movement for people to do things that bypass engaging someone who's psychotic it helps for example. If you have some lunatic, cringe religious person who thinks the world is six thousand years old and our great-great-great grandchildren way back six thousand years ago rode dinosaurs bareback. I mean i'm sorry that's just people like that there's no point giving them a science lesson on genetics so you're dealing with a similar sort of disconnect with these sort of power hungry elites. I don't think that engaging them in the way you're suggesting it would be effective. I've tried and other people have tried

35:19 What is the world war two example that you brought up what would people have done if there's a tyrannical government of psychopaths and sociopaths, add beans won't help us and we also can just like it just seems like a big catch twenty two what would you suggest that people do how do we approach them or how would people in world war to have stopped. The nazi regime it just seems like we're stuck because you can't approach psychopaths that way the beans won't help us will know they will help. We have to add nothing but reach out and establish a relationship but i think, they are gonna help us when there's enough mass consciousness been brought up to speed why they're here how do we make contact

36:05 There's simply no way that the civilization and things would have to get a thousand times worse than they are now before they start just filling with guys and landing places. So that is not how they're going to operate as well so there still i get back to this simple concept waiting for us open up a link to them, And that's a reasonable thing for the civilization with back because if we don't do that what we're doing is it was showing already. Open contact and whatever benefits could come from that down the road as far as taking on, i mean a bunch of clumsy not these are not what you're talking about with the current unacknowledged special access project in the after they have

36:50 You know a year or two ago there was a guy that let storm area fifty one well what he didn't know is that bad area of air force base. Where the really good stuff everything that related underground the facility out at. Who made the room like s three four nine twelve these areas, and I have a number of my military witnesses and whistleblowers who've been in those areas, those are so secure that they're hardened. You couldn't get in with a thermonuclear device. And if anyone ever did breach it, they have conventional explosives that are bunker-busting bombs on the top and tactical nuclear weapons underneath the facility, and they would detonate them and cavitate it and destroy everything and everyone in it. This I know." So the point I'm making is

37:43 We're not dealing with a bunch of people with guns and machine gun in world war two we're dealing with folks that kind of engagement. Simply is not going to work so we have to figure out what it's gonna work and if you look at, Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, this documentary. See the kinds of experiences people have had all over the world now multiply that times a million if enough people started doing this." That's what we're talking about so when that happens then you're going to see a change not only in consciousness of the people doing CE5 but all other neighbors it is just gonna cause this field effect change but

38:24 But you're also gonna have increasingly open contact that is the ultimate disclosure that will lead to what you're asking for. But these civilizations are going to do it before there are people who were showing that they ready, could be the interface let's call it and i call them ambassadors human ambassador civilization i think thats really a challenge of this we need to get on with it in a very strong way my hope is bad Will grow the community from maybe a hundred thousand people to seventy eighty million people globally and will get that one percent of happen, which will then call this transformative opening but also change in how people are thinking acting on earth because we're responsible for our planet these other civilizations they're watching what's happening here and i think

CHAPTER 13 / 23 Discussion

Galactic Quarantine, Criteria for Level One Civilization

The concept of a "galactic quarantine" is introduced, suggesting that humanity is restricted from deep space travel until it stops destroying its biosphere and weaponizing space. Dr. Greer defines a "Level One" civilization as one that works together in peace and manages its resources sustainably. He asserts that humanity has been stalled at its current developmental stage by the interests of the ruling elite.

galactic quarantine· level one civilization· biosphere· weapons in space· human evolution

39:20 The word quarantine everyone knows what that means now. What I've understood is that the earth is under a sort of quarantine, From us going too far out in the space until we become Civilized well civilized means we're not destroying the biosphere You don't have a fraction of a fraction of a percent of people who control most of the wealth of the world you Don't have weapons in space and your living like your civilized peaceful civilization, so We're not that. We're not civilized yet. We're really not even at that what they call a level one

39:55 Civilization where that world is working together in peace and isn't damaging its biosphere. In order to have a high tech civilization now we could be there we could've been there, in the forties and fifties before i was born before you were born but that's been for stalled and we have to find a way out of this conundrum. And that's what I'm suggesting it's going to happen if something worth a mass movement people doing it don't have a lot of hope that we're gonna see this from the top down Fair. I mean, I agree with you. I don't think we'll see it from the top down either but that's the thing if we're in this quarantine because they say that We are a civilization or a species that Trashes our planet and is warlike like my whole point has been that 95% of us are not that So to judge the whole species based on the actions of the cabal is kind of messed up But I also wanted bring this up cuz no judging the whole species so your

40:51 You're putting words in my mouth and their mouths. What I'm saying is that isn't their assessment, but the power is centered and this very small number ends up people have become sheeple who haven't done anything about it. So so long as that's the dynamic, that's not of their making and they're not blaming the other people except the fact that there's you know what does that say? And you know those who do nothing in the face of evil. That's a real problem And i think that we have to educate people about how the state of the world got where it is what are the things that need to change and how do we come together as a people to change.

41:30 I say that we're the children of earth where the primary people responsible for it and we have to grow up and accept that responsibility. So they acknowledge that ninety five percent of us are peaceful loving people and its only a small percentage, that is causing the problem but they won't intervene because even though were peaceful loving people just living our lives were not Facilitating the cf i've contact that's the linchpin that would get them to actually help us do something about our psychopathically is just being the right people isn't enough we have to make, conscious communication with something that many people don't even know it possible i'm sure everybody what if they.

CHAPTER 14 / 23 Discussion

Tom DeLonge, To The Stars Academy National Security Narrative

Dr. Greer discusses his past mentorship of Tom DeLonge and criticizes the "To The Stars Academy" (TTSA) for promoting a narrative that frames UFOs as a national security threat. He argues that this framing is a deliberate intelligence community spin designed to maintain a war footing. He warns that any overt ET contact would be manipulated by mainstream media to incite public terror.

tom delonge· ttsa· blink-182· national security· media spin

42:14 were allowed this information, but there's obviously a pretty big blockade in the mainstream against such things. It just seems weird that that's the linchpin even though they would acknowledge that we're all good people and it's just this 1% we can't get over and if we just I guess communicate with them consciousness to consciousness then they'll do something? What's more than consciousness to consciousness if you look at the contact events we've had it been very personal very intimate people had amazing healing things occur with some of these et. So what i'm saying is they're open to making contacts if we invite them but if they do something that invasive, that's what they're worried about doing what your asking for

43:01 If they did what you're asking for, I guarantee you the whole mainstream media... Because look what they did with this TTSA and Tom DeLonge who I had mentored Tom DeLonge back when he first started out in Blink-182. And he got taken in by the cabal everything they were putting out is oh there's an alien threat it's a threat to our national security It's all around fear and threats They know that if they did anything too frontal that the mainstream media, the intelligence community and unfortunately 90% of the UFO lunatics would be out there running around saying see we're being invaded by aliens. So it's kind of like the original 1950s The Day The Earth Stood Still where you know there was this event and everything that the ETs did was misinterpreted We got on a war footing, the ET that appeared ended up being killed etc and so on I think

43:56 what we have to understand is that we have to be responsible for our own behavior and one of the consequences of these civilizations do anything before enough people are educated and open to making contact, is that it will be spun by the spinmeisters in the media at the Pentagon and CIA as a threat to us. And we are actively being invaded. That is the tripwire Look, if I figured this out with my meager IQ. I can guarantee it that these civilizations have figured this out they are not that stupid right so they certainly know that any seriously overt act like you're suggesting would trigger this response of putting the whole world in a unified war footing against aliens That's been the plan for decades

44:48 They don't want to trigger that the only way to make happening what you're doing if people have to make an effort on their own and i dont know why your service this is a idea of people doing something constructive in positive not well yes you are every question you bad in the way about it my point is, that is what we ought to be doing there is no point. And trying to shift blame always others want to start taking responsibility for ourselves. Fair fair that's definitely a theme that is pretty baked into the brand here but you mentioned that. Acknowledge most of us are good and were controlled by one percent cabal and they won't intervene until enough of us,

CHAPTER 15 / 23 Discussion

Random Number Generators, Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research

Dr. Greer cites the work of Dr. Robert Jahn at the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) lab to support the science of consciousness. The experiments demonstrated that human intention could statistically influence the output of random number generators. This research is used to validate the idea that a coherent field of consciousness can exert a measurable effect on physical reality.

robert jahn· princeton university· random number generators· consciousness· intention

45:28 Reach out and ask for help and you said that we need one percent at one point and that's not even an accurate representation what i'm saying okay let me just ask this question if one percent is the threshold that's not a majority how can the spin masters not spend around again i mean one percent as a pretty. Low number of that's the threshold for them to actually help us out well when did let's talk about that because, i went through it too quickly if u study Field consciousness effect you go to the lab doctor john at princeton who is a professor of engineering, can you have random number generators for people put their awareness. I'm going to shift it more towards zeros and one when it should be equal ones and zeroes that's what random number generator or quantum machines just put out random zeros and ones but

46:20 Statistically it should be an equal number and what they found with that people without touching a being wired to the machine could put their intention on it, in a positive way and there consciousness in which shift those random number generators so the consciousness field is limited inside your skull or body if this omnipresent feel. What interesting is that they found when they were paid two people who love each other united end up doing net It was an exponentially greater not two times greater effect but a ten times greater effect so it's this. Exponential affect of consciousness this is where you get into the one percent factor because the one percent factor then spontaneously, pull them in and recruit to change and behavior consciousness.

47:10 And orientation of people who don't even know you're doing that the whole point of what would use because i'm a rishi effect where they would have meditators going to a city one percent the population, would be meditating the other ninety nine percent did they were doing but people who didn't even know this medicare's for in the city became more orderly less violent. Violent crime rates went down ER visits went down health improved and it was all through this consciousness field effect. That's what so cool So that is what I'm saying is that we have to start somewhere

47:47 And i don't think we're gonna get ninety nine percent of the public. Do you wear this and do it but i don't see why we can get one hundred people that seems to be something if you understand that is rooted in very good science and quantum physics about this, Transition phase transition is called when you hit that one percent so. I think your question implied that it was sort of a linear effect is an exponential effect so that's why that sorta strategy has worked, Experimental setting and macro system settings like groups of meditators going into a city one percent has this effect on the social behavior and negativity drop positive outcomes go up. If we did that whole civilization, where is seven or eight billion people at seventy or eighty million people would be one percent that seems to be something doable i think even that number could be attained in united states alone

48:47 So I think that it's about coming together in coherence and doing it. And then, there will be an effect that will lift everyone else. It'll be a tide that lifts all the boats that are on the water at that point. That's the concept behind this. One of things...I don't know if you've seen the film yet but if you go through it look at... Yes, I have. Okay! You look at the part that is on the science of consciousness That's the key thing to understanding why the five protocols work and what the strategy is to make this transition that positive outcome happen. Well i mean that makes sense i'm aware of the snowball effect these things when mctaggart dean radin power of intention meditation it's just a,

CHAPTER 16 / 23 Discussion

Admiral Thomas Wilson, 1997 Pentagon Briefing Denied Access

Dr. Greer provides first-hand context for the famous Thomas Wilson documents, detailing a 1997 meeting at the Pentagon with the Head of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He describes how Admiral Wilson was denied access to specific UFO-related programs by private contractors despite his high-ranking military status. The incident served as a primary catalyst for Greer launching the Disclosure Project in 2001.

thomas wilson· edgar mitchell· pentagon· joint chiefs of staff· unacknowledged special access projects

49:33 I get a little frustrated, I get a little impatient with this kind of stuff. Life spans are short and uh...I'm looking to toss off that yoke but while we're still in the first hour i wanted to switch gears just to ask you about this. I want to ask you about the Thomas Wilson document which has gotten a lot of attention lately and is being highlighted often by Richard Dolan since I have here when it comes to this thread A lot of people are buzzing about it and you are right there in the mix. What information do you have maybe that has not yet been revealed to the world? For example, do you have any recorded conversations with Edgar Mitchell in which he spoke about the document or what happened is there any evidence in your possession that could further prove the absolute validity of that document while it is being kind of talked about? Well I mean not to prove the validity of the document but I was there and

50:23 You know it's substantially correct there the people who are listed in the meeting to those who are listening he is referring to. Admiral wilson jay two so let me explain what that is this is a head of intelligence for the joint chiefs of staff, this is the man who would do the intelligence assessment or the entire joint chief of staff of united states military, yes you have everything i invited every metro long as a guest because every still Dr Mitchell who is the fifth man to walk on moon and apollo project. He was coming to learn cuz i was sort of mentoring him back in the early nineties with noetic sciences institute that he found it and then later, bring him into these meetings so dr mitchell. Was there a guest my military advisor was there who set up i was three for the quote standup briefing and then there were wasn't eisenhower aid

51:23 Who is quite elderly who had been a young man and Eisenhower white house was there. Love can do the lawyer in North Carolina and then my assistant Sherry Adam those were the people in the meeting and then one other. Add more which was kind of cute because they drew straws on his executive office pool to see who would get to be on the meeting everyone wanted here what was going on now the backdrop for that meaning it just comes out in various ways through that document you're referring to is I had gotten through my military advisor he's since retired, who is mentioned in that document, Commander Will Miller. A briefing to be delivered to the Admiral before we had the meeting at his office in the Pentagon and this was an April of 1997. And he got that portfolio of documents and information on top of it was a National Reconnaissance Office NRO

52:24 Secret document from Nellis Air Force Base Area 51 that was warning of a group of people who are trying to spy on what's going on there and they had security lockdown. But that document was taken and given to me, I won't say by whom, and it listed the project code names for these super secret projects dealing with ETs and UFOs. That document was on the top of the pile of what I sent to Admiral Wilson As a result of that, he made an inquiry through one of those compartments that has the code numbers and code names on the document. And by the way, that's in the documentary Unacknowledged, and it's in the book Unacknowledge which is available for anyone to get who knows how to read you'll see this document is in there. So the Admiral when he got hold of one of these was a contractor. Of course all the really hot stuff done by contractors

53:20 Lockheed works in northrop grumman my uncle's old company and what you find is. Those guys really know what happened to the ones actually doing the work on the technology can i have it so, The government agency should contract with the tech company and they called wfo work for other contracting. So when i will get hold of this particular code named compartment that was an unacknowledged special access project, admit that in this memo you're referring to he was denied access and would basically threatened one of his stars being removed from his lapel and

54:05 By the time I got to the meeting, the Admiral was very shaken and very angry. And I think rather frightened because he realized not only was all this true but that he as a senior official in the Pentagon responsible for putting together the intelligence briefings for the Joint Chief of Staff was being denied access because the people on the other end of the phone line said He said look i'm at will send him jay to the hell yes we know who you are what he told and if it's what I want to be read into which is military speaker briefed on this project. And these contractors said admiral sir you don't have a need to know,

CHAPTER 17 / 23 Discussion

General Patrick Hughes, Treasonous Secrecy in Defense Intelligence

Following the meeting with Admiral Wilson, Dr. Greer briefed General Patrick Hughes, the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, who was also denied access to the secret projects. Greer characterizes this level of secrecy as treasonous and unconstitutional, as it decapitates the legal chain of command. This systemic blockage led to the decision to bring military and government witnesses to the National Press Club.

patrick hughes· defense intelligence agency· treason· constitutional crisis· national press club

54:50 What do you mean i don't have a need to know the god damn head of intelligence joint staff they said sir we will not discuss this with you. And basically hung up so initially he was completely denied, any sort of access even began to work the system and got a few people in various offices that are named in that memo give him some information but he would never allowed to be really read into it and he had found that In fact, his boss further up was the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency which is like the CIA for the Pentagon. Subsequent to this meeting I briefed the man that would have been his boss it was General Patrick Hughes who is a three-star general who was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency and he similarly after we got materials to him was denied access. I had a meeting at his office

55:45 with a couple of people and one of his top aides, two of them and my military advisor. And General Hughes said look I've made inquiries into this they won't tell me a goddamn thing so that's how dangerous this is is that you have people who would like to know about this who may be very good people in the military and government that are being denied access and they have decapitated the government, not just of our country but of others. This obviously is treasonous and illegal and unconstitutional. And that's why after I ran through the system of the executives, the president, CI director, Pentagon, and then a brief members of Congress, Senate Intelligence Committee members etc., none of them

56:35 We're given access but also not the more to push the system because they were threatened with their careers and some of them are threatened with her life being terminated. So at that point i realize i had to bring this public and that resulted in the two thousand one national press club disclosure project launch, what happened nineteen years ago so i'm just trying to give your listeners a little overview of my thirty year journey through this Nightmare sure and it's been inordinately stressful as you can imagine for young doctor i mean imagine being in your thirty briefing the director of the CIA and finding out. That he's been denied access then going this cannot be true but it is not a conspiracy theory i care less about all the things here i only tell people the fact that i know from direct meetings i've had,

57:25 with these sort of officials or direct contact I've had with the ETs. So that's just what my role is in this, but it's not a pretty picture there's nothing controversial about that document It is substantially correct It doesn't tell all the story that I just shared with you and there's more to this But we don't have time To go into it about how all these things evolve and what the consequences of that meeting were and things like that But you know, you can read the memo and it clearly shows that the Admiral was threatened. Yeah I definitely did not mean to imply it's not legit or substantiated. I agree with Richard Dolan when he says a real milestone. Well Richard Dolan has no knowledge of this event at all none Oh well I guess thats just where I heard from initially so I was just curious if there was added context Let me correct what I said He wasn't at the meeting

CHAPTER 18 / 23 Discussion

Edgar Mitchell, 1992 Pensacola UFO Contact Event

Dr. Greer discusses his relationship with Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell and their shared interest in the science of consciousness. He recounts a successful 1992 contact event in Pensacola, Florida, which resulted in a photographed UFO sighting and subsequent interest from intelligence community "white hats." He emphasizes that the CE-5 protocols are a spiritual and healing experience for those who practice them.

edgar mitchell· pensacola· noetic sciences· remote viewing· white hats

58:16 Right right that's why i was asking you because i know that you are a little i know what you were just heard about it from him so i was asking if there is added context to the story since you were so directly involved and i know that he wasn't but he is a fan of the document he's an advocate of. It's authenticity and its importance yeah there's no controversy around it i mean it absolutely happened in your metro with so curious about all this obviously, Although he back in those days and certainly when i was doing a briefing for the board of directors of noetic sciences. And then that evening also senator clayborne tell is there and some other folks and they're all very interested, end the issue but agra metro really what's going to learn about this because you knew that we were alone and bad implications for great and y'all so

59:11 Can you realize from experience going to the moon and back three he had this constant consciousness experience which is why he started the new science institute study, how much does that feel defective consciousness. That you know we have a realization and of course what are the reasons for disclosure project happen most people don't know this, was because we had successfully made contact with the ET in 1992 that ended up being in the Pensacola newspaper that next morning. A picture of this UFO came in after we did these protocols and contacted them and after that, the intelligence community both the white hats and bad guys contacted me as I said for the rest is history. That happened in 92 March

1:00:00 And then in april of ninety two i was approached by people from army intelligence and cia nsa at a meeting and what i learned was that they were very, angry that we had figured out how to bypass their control and make contact. Give me an idea how powerful the protocols are that people, study them and do them and do it with clarity in a clear intention your heart they work and they were consistently for people all over the world but these guys are free man

1:00:37 This is totally outside of their control because they can't control that. So my point is that if millions of people start doing that, it's going to be a point set match First we had to get information out of the disclosure project that were not alone now more than half the population except for you if those are real now we need to bring it to this next level where people have just informational knowing they're out there begin to do something constructive. And edifying and positive and good for our civilization by joining together in consciousness and making contact,

1:01:13 And notwithstanding also that the process of the meditations and learning to do the remote viewing and becoming a seer is incredibly healing for an individual, just a beautiful spiritual experience for everyone that does it. So I think there's a lot of benefits in doing it. There's no harm in doing it. If I'm correct, these civilizations are waiting for sort of a critical mass of humans to reach out to them It really would be the big game changer when we get enough folks joined together doing this process. Man, this has been a lot of fun. I do appreciate your passion and dedication. Sure! I actually hope to try out the CE5 protocol with a local San Diego group sometime Oh you should yeah! I'm looking forward to it and i do have to ask you this on behalf of the critics out there It's going to take me a minute to get out but definitely I will give you space to answer And I don't fault a person for making money that's the game we're playing and it's out of our hands To change it and people pay for this show even

CHAPTER 19 / 23 Discussion

CE-5 Expedition Costs, Funding a Global Disclosure Operation

Greg Carlwood questions the high cost of Dr. Greer's private CE-5 expeditions, which can reach nearly $3,000 per person. Greer defends the pricing by explaining the significant overhead costs of running a global operation without government or corporate funding. He notes that he sacrificed a lucrative medical career to pursue disclosure and that most of his training materials are available online for free.

fundraising· constant contact· medical career· leadership training· overhead costs

1:02:16 But your latest event was a six night outing for group of 25 people came with the price tag of $2,980 basically three grand and this did not include accommodations or meals. You talk about this conscious communication is like a human birthright and repeat in the film how important it is that we all bypass the control structure and make that direct contact. But three grand is a barrier of entry that a lot of people cannot cross, and for- And they don't need to come because we have everything out on the internet for free So if you have a computer, there's something called YouTube and then we have a website series disclosure.com all the meditations are there i've done whole training things that are workshops or hours and hours long letter there but someone wants to come on a small thing with me personally, get the fundraising thing because guess what our mailing list alone call six thousand dollars a year at constant contact to maintain

1:03:10 You know with me not working at the doctor i can't find everything myself so to all the people out there you can run a global operation with zero income. All right even if i personally have given up twelve million dollars in income as a doctor which i have, show all those sort of people if you don't want to come on one of those events you don't have to because we have all the tools out there for you to do it on your own And if you don't want to do that, then don't do it. You know? It's like...you can go into anywhere I think it is great for people who are flying and traveling through the world but usually have to...there is a cost of doing this so we can't do what were doing and by the way we don't have an office We don't have staff My wife will be 72 this year and I with some volunteers run this whole thing But there are lot of expenses

1:04:03 I think that if people don't want to support it, then that's the statement they can make. They don't need to support it there and again you know everyone is free to charge whatever they want for whatever they do That's the country we live in but I guess I would just wonder how even these beings themselves would feel about that But this is the criticism I read most often And I'm just how would we if I said? I'm going through a place on this week There'd be five thousand people there We couldn't manage it so those are leadership events. In other words, those are intended to be people who want a whole week in a small group to be trained by me to go out and then form teams and educate other people about it." You know that there were other things that we do I was going to do this contact in the desert where we're gonna have 1,000 people out under the stars out in this I guess a golf course or something but that got canceled yesterday because of this coronavirus so you know we try to do things that are open

1:05:00 If we're gonna do something where it's really an intensive for training people that only have twenty, twenty five people there which is what those are. Those are not things that are enormous gathering right then we try to make it so its people who really want to make a commitment and go forward in the sort of people who train other folks around the world and that helps them defray these other calls because you know if you know someone wealthy enough to just underwrite All the overhead and cost for what we do you know let me know but otherwise there's gonna have to be some charges i mean i don't know how the people who ask questions like that ago i dont have your living maybe you have a trust fund in the real world you actually have to.

1:05:42 your obligations very true i get criticism all the time for charging for that second hour but it is like do we do no one does what they do for free especially if they do well so hard to even do one thing while you wanna get compensated. So are just saying that in those situations for that three grand people aren't really getting anything that isn't online available for free except for like your personal hands on, Touch yeah i guess you can diminish it as much as you'd like but a lot of people not trying to manage a lot of people come that would actually enjoy that and i want one on one small group thing is very powerful. A lot of people for example who been doing meditation retreats for twenty years spent,

1:06:27 Ten thousand dollars a day that week they advance more meditation and remote viewing than they had in twenty years so it's very powerful. Program and people enjoy the people who don't enjoy it don't come i mean if only three times a year and this year we probably be lucky to get to, And so it provides some revenue for what we're doing and I've always felt that if people don't like that they can get all the things that are put out there ninety nine point nine percent of everything we do is on the internet for free. Where where yes an expertise does have value so just had to ask you know we don't want me i guess you have a big sort of white. Roll crowd in your following who not at all but my point is that if that's an issue for people,

1:07:15 Don't do it. I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head, but we actually do have expenses because we're trying to do a global project and if people want to support it then we appreciate that. It's a free world. You don't have to support it understood yes I would not say a large part of this audience is trolls by any means i got that information from just reading up on The protocol itself outside of my own audience My audience doesn't know who the guest is until they tune on the show Oh, well, I mean you I like you I don't know how much you get if you get on the internet anyone who has yeah? I'm just defending the audience anyone who's well known in the public. It's going to have thousands and thousands of Derogatory and nasty things. I mean there's no

CHAPTER 20 / 23 Discussion

Documentary Distribution, CE-5 Film Support and Pre-orders

Dr. Greer provides information on how to access his new film, Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, via digital platforms like Amazon, iTunes, and Vimeo. He mentions that the live Los Angeles premiere was postponed due to the pandemic but will be rescheduled. He encourages listeners to support the outreach efforts through the film's official website to help achieve the "one percent effect" in public awareness.

amazon· itunes· vimeo· ce5film.com· documentary premiere

1:07:56 I made my piece a couple decades ago and i just don't think that's an indication of where the conversation should be going. Sure sure, im just defending my audience in saying that didn't come from them came from ok internet but had to ask again i do appreciate your time and dedication i really did enjoy the film and alot of footage captured is pretty amazing even the anecdote about healing deafness which i have a very personal interest in but Regardless, I think people should see it. And um, I'm sorry about the live premiere being canceled but before we go what else would you like to leave people with social media stuff? It's not canceled it just being postponed so we hope later this summer when things calm down We will have that LA premiere fair great and is there anything else you want to tell people about links social media accessing the film just before we call it in

1:08:47 Yeah, well everyone can preorder it now on Amazon and iTunes and Vimeo. And also we're still asking people to help support 100% of the cost of getting a word out to the public on this, to get this 1% effect is being borne by us not the distribution company. So we're trying to still raise funds through that and they can help us if they're so inclined even if it's $1 or $10 at ce5film.com because the more support we have there, the more will be able to move this out and educate a wider and wider audience over the next year

1:09:24 Mm-hmm. Awesome, well said! It seems like this stuff is yielding results I hope those who are interested do check out the film for themselves and I hope we get past this virus lockdown sooner rather than later but thanks again and take care All right have a good one You too And boom goes the dynamite people Dr. Stephen Greer I obviously have mixed feelings here because this disclosure project was something i really gravitated to when i was in my early twenties, i remember my first real long road trip from saint louis to california and how it was accompanied by me and my buddies listening to the disclosure project testimonies while we drove through the desert at night. See in the sky lit up like it is out there for the first time kind of creeping ourselves out

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Host Reflections, COVID-19 Disagreement and Interview Dynamics

In the post-interview wrap-up, Greg Carlwood reflects on the clashing perspectives regarding COVID-19 and the defensive tone of the conversation. He expresses surprise at Dr. Greer's alignment with mainstream narratives on the virus despite his knowledge of the "cabal." Carlwood discusses the "catch-22" of the CE-5 philosophy, comparing it to conventional religious structures that require faith without providing strategic tools to combat the elite.

greg carlwood· cnn· covid-19· passive-aggressive· personal responsibility

1:10:16 It was a very fond memory and now that I have this podcast and i've grown up little bit, also realize how hard it is to put something together like that. And also this documentary it is pretty good representation of the CE5 experience if you're into that there's some compelling footage there for sure but I've been known to watch a pretty mediocre two-hour documentary just to see a few good shots or orbs or crafts are beans so factor that in too Right off the bat i felt like we just clashed over the corona virus stuff never liked interrupt guests but also know that if you wanna hear some of those opinions will just watch cnn, add it to risk we run when we have someone here for their very specific niche and then i try to ask him about things going on outside of that.

1:11:08 But with this COVID stuff, I feel like it's weird to not at least mention it. And he is a doctor and he apparently knows the cabal in charge doesn't mean well for us so...I was just a bit surprised by how far apart we were on that and maybe I was in some kind of mood or maybe our personalities just clash but I felt like it was a pretty defensive or passive-aggressive interview I thought even my tougher questions were still pretty tame they really want meant to be personal but i feel like he threw out a couple little jabs at me and the audience over them cut me off a few times that kind of stuff maybe yes some personal issue with richard dolan that i don't know about it didn't seem, like me bringing him up either and i was trying to give them props about the wilson memo in just ask.

1:12:00 For those who maybe still have some questions is there any extra context we can give to validate those documents. That's all i was really trying to say but when I compare and contrast this interview with the recent interview with Richard it just seems like night and day in terms of who i communicate with better And again no real problem with the CE5 initiative itself. I actually met with a local group a few months back who wanted to vet me and see if they'd allow me in, it was pleasant i got the okay but since then i just haven't found time to actually dedicate an overnight trip out in the desert

1:12:44 I guess one of the things i'm hung up on which clearly came out in the interview is that I just sense a catch-22 that reminds me of the way conventional religions talk about God. God made us and he loves us but if we don't have faith even though our world isn't designed to give us a lot of reasons to have it, He's gonna burn us eternally It's like these beans there they're there they wanna help, i know most of us are kind good people and we're only being held back by a few couples at the top of the pyramid. But they just can't interfere because not enough of us are contacting them. And this means give us messages of love and light and yearning for universal peace in a positive relationship

1:13:27 But they don't give us any actionable steps to work towards that world when it's sort of out of our hands. They don't give us anything we can use to beat the elite strategically, no hermetic-style bodies of knowledge to push us further... I dunno obviously Dr Greer responded to those questions that i had but i just am not that convinced And of course i'm just a simple stoner college dropout with the microphone it doesn't really matter what i think i'm no expert. I never try to make interviews personal they're supposed to just be about the material and ideas presented but doctor career would say things like,

1:14:09 Will you seem to be resistant to people doing something positive or constructive and i just have the laugh that's so funny because that's been a central theme of this show personal responsibility, add tools to live a good life despite the mechanisms in the big machine. But when he said that, I just felt like i had to move on because we were going in circles over these beings want to help us but they can't intervene without our say. 95% of people aren't the problem they want us to do something ourselves We don't overcome this system because it's too entrenched They'd love to help but we need to take responsibility for ourselves but we're not the ones doing wrong by the planet

CHAPTER 22 / 23 Discussion

Indigenous Contact Methods, Monetization of Benevolent Space Brothers

Carlwood critiques the monetization of contact protocols and the similarities between CE-5 and ancient indigenous spirit contact methods. He mentions a second-hour discussion involving alien homeworlds and questions from a researcher named Kosh regarding the Sapphire Project. The host concludes by thanking Dr. Greer for his long legacy in the UFO field despite their personality clash and disagreements on specific points.

indigenous practices· lawrence rockefeller· sapphire project· kosh· monetization

1:14:55 I'm sounding so negative and again i do think you can make contact this way that's really the crux of what's important it's just that when we get into this idea that these protocols could result in a global sweeping change and widespread help from these beans, It starts to sound like a UFO religion. And that's kind of what bothers me And Dr. Greer seems to know and have meetings with a lot of the elite, but he can't seem to get them to stop wrecking the planet and join our space brothers I was gonna ask a question about his early association with Lawrence Rockefeller But...I felt like it was overkill i guess? And it got even more heated when we went into the second hour

1:15:39 I asked about the similarities between this contact protocol and indigenous methods of contact, and felt like that wasn't a very welcomed comparison. I personally think it makes CE-5 seem more valuable and valid if we can say something similar has been done for the whole span of human existence But when you're trying to sell overnights that don't include a place to stay for three grand per person, I guess you do not want it to look like your co-opting an indigenous practice. And look as i tried to say anyone can charge anything for what they want to do if i was doing overnight events i'd probably get sick of doing them and eventually say well i guess for three grand ill do it sure! I dont really like speaking at conferences but if someone is going to pay me

1:16:28 Enough money to go through all that preparation and the nerves then sure but in a very specific case of contact with benevolent space brothers it seems like a touchy thing to monetize i'm sorry maybe im a hypocrite, people will see that distinction as frivolous but thats just how I feel. But just tell you about that second hour and stop going on these tangents As I mentioned, I asked about how similar the CE-5 protocol is to ancient and indigenous spirit contact. But then we hit probably my favorite part which was descriptions of alien homeworlds and planetary landscapes that Dr. Greer has been shown during the CE-5 experiences That i liked a lot

1:17:18 And wouldn't you know it, I actually got a few questions from Kosh. I was so thankful to Kosh for doing an interview with me. I told him i had Dr Greer coming up and he said oh man! I have a few questions I would love to ask Dr Greer So I said give them to me and I'll slide them into the interview. We got some of Kosh's questions on EVOs and the Sapphire project and free energy Those didn't really go as planned either but It is what it is I don't really want to spend this wrap-up time picking apart everything he said point by point. It's rude, it's definitely bad form but i guess i already just did it! Should i scrap this wrap up and start over? Probably or maybe this quarantine has just affected my ability to communicate with other people properly... Maybe it's me, I'm out of practice

1:18:13 But I think you can still have a personality clash with someone and also appreciate aspects of the work they do or enjoy a documentary that they made. Regardless, I do thank Dr. Greer for his time and for the long legacy he has of diving deep into the UFO question I know when you enter into this space, especially in a topic like this everyone's a critic so...I don't want to pile on too much. And i guess i'll just leave it at that check out the film if you're interested sign up for plus if you like the show that i do and want to hear The Second Hour with Dr Greer or any of the great guests we have around here? I really really appreciate and value the audience that we have! And i guess that's it for me

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Closing Music, Mr. Spaceman by The Byrds

The episode concludes with a cover of "Mr. Spaceman" by The Byrds. Greg Carlwood signs off with his signature catchphrase, challenging the "Space Brothers" to make their move. The music plays out the remainder of the segment.

mr. spaceman· the byrds· higher side chats· podcast outro· space brothers

1:19:05 Your move, Space Brothers Sky Orbs and Entities at the other end of the CE-5 phone line. You're fuckin' moved. Woke up this morning with light in my eye And then realized it was dark outside It was like coming down from the sky No who or what Must be those strangers that come every night Whose saucer-shaped light put people uptight Leave blue green footprints that glow in the dark I hope they get home all Hey, Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along

1:20:23 Won't do anything wrong Hey, Mr. Spaceman won't you please take me along the high side? Woke up this morning was feeling quite weird I had flies in my beard My toothpaste was smeared I opened my window They'd written my name Said, so long We'll see you again Hey Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along Don't do anything wrong Hey

1:21:28 Hey, Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along the higher side? Won't you please take me along the high side?