Topic: To The Stars Academy

Ryan Bledsoe details his interactions with Jim Semivan, a retired high-level CIA official involved with To the Stars Academy. Semivan reportedly apologized for the family's mistreatment by intelligence-connected media and confirmed that every global intelligence agency has tracked the Bledsoe story since 2007. The segment also explores the possibility of intelligence agencies or entities penetrating the dream world to communicate or retrieve information.

The failure of To the Stars Academy (TTSA) is discussed, with Knowles suggesting the operation may have been intended to "kill ufology" by associating it with an embarrassing public failure. He critiques Tom DeLonge’s appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience as a "humiliating self-own." He posits that the establishment figures involved, such as Chris Mellon and Luis Elizondo, miscalculated DeLonge's cultural relevance.

The "To The Stars Academy" (TTSA) is compared to Jack Parsons' original company, "Ad Astra," both names translating to the same phrase. The discussion touches on the push for UFO disclosure by figures like Hal Puthoff and Luis Elizondo, framing it as a continuation of Parsons' work with "mystery metals."

Chris Knowles references John Poindexter’s observation that there are very few actual players in the world of intelligence and ufology. He points to the To The Stars Academy, noting that names like Christopher Mellon, Hal Puthoff, and Jim Semivan have been circulating in these circles for decades. This small group of "movers and shakers" maintains credibility and resumes that allow them to direct the narrative of the paranormal.

The hosts analyze the To The Stars Academy as a potential intelligence operation designed to frame UFOs as a new "boogeyman" for military funding. Chris Knowles expresses discomfort with both the "space brothers" and "demons from Mars" narratives, stating that the intelligence behind these phenomena is likely indifferent to humanity. He compares the human relationship with these entities to a person accidentally kicking over an anthill.

Greg Carlwood compares the human-centric approach of Stivelman's film to the militaristic lens of Tom DeLonge's To The Stars Academy. Citing Dr. Diana Pasulka, Carlwood suggests that the phenomenon is deeply tied to religious and spiritual experiences that military-focused groups may be overlooking. He encourages listeners to support independent filmmakers like Stivelman to ensure higher-quality opportunities for the podcast and the field of ufology.

Burns and Carlwood evaluate the current state of "soft disclosure," citing the Pentagon's UAP programs and the CIA's release of Project Stargate documents. They argue that the reality of these phenomena acts as a "monkey wrench" to the control systems of the ruling class, as it suggests a matrix where anything is possible.

Host Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview, noting the significance of a UFO book being published by Oxford University Press. He discusses the concept of "soft disclosure" and the difficulty of whistleblowers coming forward within a cynical alternative community. The segment emphasizes the need for a middle ground where insiders can share information without facing immediate hostility or legal repercussions from non-disclosure agreements.

White predicts that the "Dominant of Witchcraft" will be a brief transition leading to a "Space Witchcraft" era, defined by a multi-planetary society and the re-enchantment of the world. He cites the "To The Stars Academy" and the New York Times coverage of UFOs as evidence that the elite are preparing the public for the official acknowledgment of electro-gravitic craft. He expects this transition to be finalized by 2030.