Topic: American Cosmic

The conversation shifts to the politics of UFO research, highlighting how certain figures like Professor John Mack faced persecution while others seem "handpicked" to lead the narrative. There is a suggestion that credible voices in the UFO subculture are selected by unknown entities to promote a specific merging of spirituality and technology. Kujawa observes that internet algorithms and "internet lords" appear to favor those who argue for the spirituality of AI.

The discussion references Diana Pasolka’s work regarding "gifting fields" where anomalous materials are found in the desert. Dana Kippel suggests these materials may be plasma sheaths or "cocoons" left behind by interdimensional beings. She argues that the military-industrial complex struggles to reverse-engineer these technologies because they fail to account for the role of consciousness in stabilizing plasma.

The conversation evaluates the claims of Tom DeLonge and his role as a potential intelligence asset for the government. Rom X compares DeLonge's information to that of Gary Nolan and Jacques Vallee, noting a shared focus on non-local consciousness and remote viewing. They discuss the concept of breakaway civilizations and the possibility that ancient advanced humans transitioned into light-based entities.

Jason Horsley critiques Diana Pasulka’s American Cosmic for conflating extraterrestrials with angels without accounting for demonic trickery. He argues that the lack of discernment between paranormal and spiritual experiences leads to "woke" post-modernism and transhumanism. The segment concludes with Horsley asserting that objective reality exists as an eternal principle of goodness, regardless of the cultural labels applied to it.

Professor Diana Walsh Pasulka returns to discuss her latest book, Encounters, which serves as a follow-up to her 2019 work American Cosmic. The conversation introduces her research into non-human intelligences, the Vatican archives, and the "Invisible College" of scientists studying UFO phenomena. Pasulka reflects on the reception of her previous work and how her perspective as a religious studies scholar has evolved since the 2017 New York Times UFO expose.

Greg Carlwood and Bruce Fenton discuss the possibility that modern tech corporations are utilizing information obtained from non-human intelligences. They reference Diana Pasulka’s book American Cosmic and a figure known as Tyler who claims to have designed medical technologies based on contact with an intelligence at a NASA facility. The dialogue explores the idea that Silicon Valley's rapid advancement may be influenced by "summoning" or communicating with external entities through technologies like D-Wave.

The identity of "Tyler" from Diana Pasulka’s book American Cosmic is discussed, with claims linking the entity to NASA scientist Timothy Taylor and a rogue AI. Connections are drawn between the Bledsoe family's experiences, psychic links to an entity named Tyler, and synchronistic references in popular culture like Post Malone's music. The narrative suggests that high-level visionaries and artists may be in direct communication with this off-planet intelligence.

Chris Bledsoe joins the program to discuss over a decade of close contact with otherworldly intelligences. The discussion references his initial 2007 encounter near the Cape Fear River in Fayetteville, North Carolina, which allegedly resulted in his healing from Crohn's disease. Carlwood notes Bledsoe's connections to the Invisible College and high-level government officials interested in the ET mystery.

A glowing entity known as "The Lady" tells Chris Bledsoe that sharing his story is a burden he must keep. This encounter led to an eight-year research relationship with Dr. Diana Pasulka, author of American Cosmic. Bledsoe notes that he introduced Pasulka to key figures like "Tyler" and began speaking publicly about his experiences starting at a meeting in Asheville, North Carolina.

Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview, acknowledging the mixed feelings some may have regarding Chris Bledsoe's credibility. He recommends Richard Dolan's sessions for those seeking more background on Bledsoe's extensive history. Carlwood highlights the unique position Bledsoe occupies between high-level academic research, the Vatican archives, and direct interdimensional contact.

Grant Cameron questions the biological reality of alien bodies, noting that witnesses like Betty Andreasson report the beings never age and lack sex organs or digestive systems. He references Diana Pasulka’s book *American Cosmic* and the character "Tyler D," an anonymous NASA official who views UFO crash sites as "gifting fields" where technology is intentionally left for humans to find.

Dr. Diana Pasulka, professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina, joins the program to discuss her book American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, and Technology. The research explores the intersection of high-tech Silicon Valley culture, historical religious phenomena, and the Vatican's hidden archives. Pasulka details her six-year investigation into how modern belief in extraterrestrials mirrors traditional religious structures.