David Griffin | Visual Language, Sentient Black Goo, Exopolitics, & Alien Bases

00:00 Alright, Hiresight Chatters. As we wade through a world of invasive technologies directing and recording far more of our actions than we'd like to admit many of us start to wonder what will find at the end this curvy and concerning road? Others examine our history of perpetual war and conquest most without reasonable motivation given to the people And again! We wonder what's really driving these conflicts in military movements across the globe even today And the savviest amongst us have seen the testimonies and texts leading all the way back to the earliest ages of man that describe interactions, rulership, enlightenment and maybe even engineering of humanity by some other intelligent beings. And know that there must be a deeper story we aren't being told when it comes most these threads too

00:46 Well, today's guest is very clear in his assertion that whether you're talking about the trajectory of our technology, our geopolitical agenda of perpetual war or many other aspects of the human story your picture won't be complete without factoring in the exo-political element and so that is what we're here to do. His name is David Griffin and he's a UK researcher largely responsible for the UK branch of The Exopolitics Sites and a card carrying member of both The Exopolitics Institute and World Network Having studied peace studies and conflict resolution as well as learning innovation and interactive media in the college days, he realized that while not being interested in ufology initially you really need to incorporate that third rail to understand the game behind the game and the subtext of many world events.

01:34 And David has done a great job nailing down and connecting exactly this type of subtext by conducting an amazing series of presentations that dive deep into the secret motivations and ET involvement in not only the Falklands War, but also the goings-on in Antarctica. And the strange string of deaths and quote suicides that took many Marconi scientists and engineers Much of this revolves around a dangerous EET technology that many refer to as the Black Goo, and we're definitely going to get into it today. The professor of exo-politics, the saucer school scholar and the black goo guy himself... David Griffin welcome to The Higher Side

02:13 Greg i thank you and i don't think michael salah or alfred webber the two early components together with me who set up a very early national networks of export six in two thousand three trying change your apology bring it on from its anorak days is under a u.s. terms that mean something to me, But Anorak just means, in this case UFOlogy was doing very well in the 90s over here. But it was more nuts and bolts Anoraki types who mean the nerdy types that were showing me a piece of the source or I don't believe and yet still gathered a big audience then it went quiet on this issue to the death of UFO magazine now taken by your own US Bill Burns he's taking that magazine over but that was originally a UK thing so we have like five six hundred people

03:00 coming to these events on UFOs, but it was round and round nuts and bolts. And it bored me and I was into the topic but not that so Exopolitics came up by Dr Salah I went forward with the first national site outside the US on that. And you mentioned coming forward out of silence, and I don't want to sound pretentious but that's based mostly on you contacting me and this topic that you've asked me to discuss or update between myself, Alec Newell who is Contact you that was jailed for nine years and no reason simply having a contact account that you wouldn't give. I can talk to certain people but arrived from britain to new zealand i'm the duncan rose who runs nexus magazine many people will be familiar with two decades next season

03:46 so three of us since twenty eleven have worked on this and bring it to the wider public since alex first book. But mostly i just say this is your scope of work and what i admire is that you can't just go on looking good show me a steve bassett says i want the latrine with us u s word showing the tree in june the toilet from the source and all believe you is the same as young rats And ExitPolitics was meant to move that on into saying, right look for F's sake we know that they're here and let's just deal with that. And also at the same time which I've moved away from now lets deal with what the government knows and that went on for about 10-12 years so everyone has sort of fallen out gone their own ways by now but in between that topic you asked me discuss is one that your right i have gone quiet on it

04:35 and one that I hope perhaps we can deal with today by discussing it with you and telling you why all three of us who had very tight research, this is the Southern Hemisphere New Zealand Australia and Britain. And this whole black goo thing that if you type into the internet now huge amount results will come back Well, I guarantee you they weren't there in 2012-2011. So this is what's happened since and it's your site that covered things like Liz Frazier with her whole ideas of the siren because I did talks on visual language so the point is it's not a narrow look at things and you are a host that represents something that isn't a narrow look at this area

05:13 or what we call, or Linda Bolton calls high strangeness itself. You know your channel and your show represents a wider scale of things so you tell me where you want me to begin because there has been a gap and all three of us that I've mentioned the names have refused interviews since about 2014 when we did Nexus conference in Australia remotely because Alec A guy from New Zealand was stopped from getting a visa into Australia, if you can imagine such thing. And I couldn't get over either so there's something going on there when all you want to do is talk at an event of two or three hundred people in Australia? Well no way! The Australian government aren't letting you in to talk at conference but there's more going on than that So tell me what you know about the case and give me starting point and we'll go from there

05:58 Sure, sure. Yeah you definitely hit on a lot of things right there It is a real treat to have you here and I am so interested in the Falklands War Marconi deaths Black Goose saga And it is the main thing we're going to talk about today But you mentioned Liz Frazier and I gotta bring up the fact fact that when I asked you about coming on THC, you checked out a few episodes first as one should. And you listened to one of the shows I did with Chris Knowles and said to me, shit someone else is sussed out that Elizabeth Frazier is a siren and they're not even from England! You also mentioned what she's really doing is using visual language just a moment ago.

06:37 These non-human intelligences speak in higher dimensional language. Sometimes they speak in color, so to speak. Terrence McKenna used to talk about this a lot and it relates to cymatics and the power of psychedelics and maybe even modes of contact you can have with these intelligences yourself But because so many people in this audience are big fans of the Elizabeth Frazier Siren saga work that Chris Knowles has done, I'm just really anxious before we dive into this Marconi thing and this Falklands thing. I'm just curious to hear from someone else who's able to fold her into their work what can you tell us from your perspective about that little Elizabeth Frasier saga?

07:19 Okay great can i be selfish for a moment just on traffic and this is my coach rule thermostat as i call it many shoes and i do this by the talks around you know your ask questions are interested in slightly selfish, use and chris noles talk i think he's done to you coming aside and there's frasier has a important central part of that are using that tracks quite a bit more attention several other topics just interesting briefly. For my show that's been a real popular topic and chrysanthos has been a real popular guest i think it's just because of all the connections that unwind in that synchro mystic way when you examine her, and the things she chance over and over in these songs and how they tend to come to pass. And again that might relate to higher dimensional high vibration type of language actually maybe contain some type of foreseen events but

08:14 But because you did mention that to me, and it is such an off the radar and unique slice of the pie. I'm just curious to get your thoughts. Well top marks to it to you and Mr Knowles for actually covering that topic because I kept quiet and I done talks on ETS psychedelics and visual language which you find again online conferences from twenty ten onwards i'm like you say you mention the great late terence mckenna who died far too early blessing from brain cancer. What's what he gave us is, If you're a scientist, I'm not going to go on too long about this. But he had a scientific view on this and a psychedelic view about ESR electron spin resonance which essentially says that certain things like the magic mushroom or certain tones like shamans from the Amazon talked about

09:05 have the ability to pass a threshold where they begin spinning a state of consciousness in other people. So I found out by reading his stuff that shamans could pass colors between each other and shapes, whether it was with drums... Everyone goes on about David Icke and everyone's going over to the Amazon and saying yeah, I've been at the Amazon, I've done my ayahuasca or whatever it is I need all these middle class people going off and come in shouts back about it in the US you can't go to parts but the point is that terrence was there in the mid seventies he found these charms could pass by using the right vocal tones, make a dash me afterwards discuss their trip weather was with ayahuasca of the plant sacred plants or whether it was just running i mean they could get started.

09:51 They could pass on symbols and colors, and they discuss concepts like oh if that circle of pink had a bit more blue in it I would have understood the concept you were sending me. And these are groups of shamans so this idea of visual language already exists. Liz Frazier to me is the central person who has come forward as someone in the pop charts. And I'm astonished that...I didn't know how big they were in America has come forward and Mr Knowles has gone and looked into that. Now he's gone a little bit more New World Order than me in the two interviews I listened to, I just stayed a little bit more on. All she represents is that we're now at time where

10:29 As you can see from the madness on the news when you turn on CNN in your country, BBC and our bollocks news country. When concepts are being portrayed like Putin has hacking the election well obviously rubbish but I mean that's one example of many but essentially politicians are insane You have a reality channel person as your president we over here have just a mess at the House of Commons that don't know where to go or anything So what I think comes through, and Liz Frazier's then represented as they become bigger writes the point, as Mr Knowles mentioned of Heaven and Las Vegas. The album... And I challenge anyone who listens to this

11:05 get a copy of by Nick Steel, Liberate, a copy of Heaven in Las Vegas and play it one night. And just tell me after one or two listens if you're not hypnotized and it doesn't take you to your own so this is not about someone trying to entrench you like the use of binaural beats this is about Liz Frazier the Cocteau Twins that they have found she has found some magic key to take you to a different place now if you watch one of my talks look at the work that I did with Jim Sparks. Greg, have you heard of Jim Sparks? The contactee?" I have and we'll definitely get into him too because he's an important piece of the puzzle! Well i'm glad to go there if you want but I interviewed him even before Lindemann & Hounstuff and essentially he was doing similar things so he had symbols produced in his mind when he was on board at Kraft they were a bit rough with him the way he was treated but you know Aberhinton might be a bit government interference there that's one case I'll admit

12:01 I've known Jim Sparks for a fair while, there's a few strange things going on there. But let's keep it simple. So it's essential that ETs use telepathy what we call telepathy but essentially, it's a way of transmitting things so people will say, I thought of the question to ask them these are contactees or people who end up in their company on board of Kraft or whatever the quotes are always like they answer the question as I or before i thought about it now you know this tells us something about time space and basically that yeah we call it telepathy esp but essentially what i'm saying is that this visual thing that behind if you watch my talks and i even show this in physics, that we talk in a bubble. We don't know this but we look into physics when we talk

12:44 it sends out a bubble and this bubble is passed on in sort of visual cymatic. I mean, yeah, I'm glad that Greg you watched that you mentioned cymatics and that's crucial people can go look up cymatics for themselves if they want which essentially says as sound is passed to vibration then it creates a visual image there onboard this like a drum you'll know might be able explain better than me but The fact is it creates a visual image. That's the rudimentary form of electron spin resonance, as McKenna called it. So essentially Mr Knowles goes into different areas to me but I think Liz is here to represent this weird simulation or Jean Baudrillard who was a French philosopher in the 80s wrote a book on Simulacra top French philosopher very weird guy but had it banged on he basically said that we're getting to the point now where

13:29 we live it in a simulation. Essentially, we're sort of programming our own realities and then it bounces back at us." Well this can only explain why myself and one of my best friends for 20-30 years were shit scared! Greg how old are you? Just out of interest... You can give me a rough age. 33 Okay so I'm a bit older than you by three or four years but you may well remember the era of Reagan Thatcher and others when people People in the sixties gone about ducking cover for nuclear bombs. Well, in the early eighties which you remember as well even though you're a few years younger than me I remember being shit scared because they told us that at school where I was in if a bomb went off in Birmingham Central, I lived south of Birmingham at that time That essentially we wouldn't die We'd be alright Got onto our desk and wouldn't die but our skin would fall off and this had happened But when we got home If our parents live further north

14:18 they'd be dead. So all this sort of stuff was going on and so when suddenly it happens that Putin came back as the enemy during this whole time of Trump, you know again your country rules what goes on in the world. This is why it's good for you to get UK people on for a different view now and then because your country has a profound impact on things, whether it's discussing Liz Frazier who is from the UK or whether it's discussing the wider issues of the E.T. contact issue." And so, of course, Putin came back and suddenly became the enemy of the United States. I said to my friend from the 80s, he's again a couple years older. He was like why have we suddenly gone anti-Russia again? We thought we'd been through that and in both our heads we've been told that the nuclear issue in the deep consciousness of our heads...We've been shit scared as kids and we've been told that that's no longer an issue well

15:04 As you've seen now, they're now goading Putin and it's not really about what's going on but it's about the fact that my God these people in Parliament both your lot and our lots in the House of Commons in Britain have forgotten what the scariness of nuclear war means. It's almost like something has been taken away. Philip K Dick another US author called it an amnesia. He calls it re-remembering. In other words, we're a race that's been around for a long time and it's not about the fact that we're not going out there to learn this is mistake people make on their let's go and learn facts on the internet by going through YouTube videos or crappy blogs. Philip K Dick famous author after his death essentially said is

15:44 amnesia and this is all to do with, he thought the archons you've heard of them around the Archon sort of things. And basically said we're relearning in other words we forgotten what this is a blanking of memory so what I think as we are relearning and bring it back to that topic that you mentioned or Chris mentioned very articulate great guy with Liz Frazier I believe she's there meme and then however it's pronounced in America that with the way that she sings with her lyrics again having Las Vegas on the album, essentially she is saying This is a step in between current textual language and the way we write or the way that I'm talking to you now, and the next stage of visual language which again if you watch one of Tom's talks on Terrence McKenna's and other people who have dipped into this area.

16:36 Right man i actually think it's so fascinating because I think you and chris are circling around the same sort of thing because his contention is that this Is channeled information you know that she has tapped into something he refers to her as a prophet of doom Because, he's pointed out a lot of things that have been negative but who knows who's causing what but she's definitely tapped into something and channeling something And it's so crazy because Chris and I, when we're talking we always say that the level of detail that is in this case seems too precise for human hands. And i can almost see a parallel between this multi-layered level of detail surrounding Frasier and her prophecies and the complexity and multi-layered elements of this language that these beings seem to speak through it seems like a perfect fit! I'm gonna have to get Chris back

17:25 soon for sure to talk about it, maybe have you guys together. But I also just wanted to ask you about these beings themselves why they're here and their motivations? I'm sure just like humans they fall all along the spectrum of polarity but many people call them spirits or demons others extraterrestrials are aliens but in one year presentations you make a comment that they accidentally got stuck here or that at least one group of them is multidimensional in nature and somehow got stuck or somehow penetrated our layer. And if that's true, it does a great deal to rectify those two camps I guess can you flesh that out a bit more for us before we get into the bigger story of the day?

18:08 Okay, I'll go for what I think you're all about with the beings that got stuck here. But I'll just say with regards to Christovals and with Liz Frazier it could be as simple...I've been a person that's been to seances now this is why i've chosen you to come out and chat too because your open-minded with these things well I'm the person that's into the ex-politics ET content issue and yet I have also my god people who know me will now shrink in the UK, that I've also been to séances but organized by groups that have lasted 40 or 50 years. Objects have been lifted keyboards lifted in front of me and played a tune with no strings around photos taken. I can prove all that but that's a different issue so these two areas are intersecting and so what I say when you mention Liz Frazier is it ETs or spirits? All I say is what she's doing

18:56 Chris says the siren, we dead right. She's owned herself up to music that I think it was her husband plays. I don't know if they fell out or not but her husband plays when she hears it, she has got the ability and few singers in the pop world have got the ability to do this. It's like meditation how many of us can meditate first time get to a yoga class? Very few. I mean, it's a technique to empty your mind. Well Liz has the ability to do this and she channels this knowledge that comes through in a frequency All we see in America when we hear about your churches or your fundamentalist churches, I'm trying to get things sort of going a bit here with the whole idea of the way other people see the US which is important at the moment with Trump and things. But when you say Baptist Churches, we think of your preachers madly go around touching people and then talking in tongues well

19:42 all this phrase is doing is instead of going to a Baptist church, she's allowing that talking in tongues. That's not perhaps forced or fake in the way that some maybe in Baptist churches in the US and over here but she allows that siren as Chris calls it come through on that babble I dare anyone to call it babble It's a beautiful sound so I think she is channeling higher self and news. And I think he's right in that So I don't know whether it was DT there But with her I'd leave it at simple One thing I say with this is this situation with ETs, since doing the exopolitics in 2002 onwards for 20 years. I ran a site and people were saying well are they extraterrestrial? Are they extra dimensional? And I was going essentially we're monkeys in suits that's what most of us are you get on the train in the morning go to work whether in New York or London We're monkeys in suit so we cannot answer questions because more

20:34 but whether in this case, so is Liz Frazier in touch with ETs or is it that she's simply tapping into some sort of higher form of herself? The latter which I go for. But the point is the same with the exopolitics versus the whole ETH versus extra-dimensional. are not in a position to answer those questions why should we need to is what's the point scoring case so let's leave this question until once we invite these people down these creatures intelligence is this federation that is most definitely contact with us and i have proof of which will be laughing at. Come out with me for nights in england all through but society

21:16 So you getting to the stage where instead of thinking about. These creatures as one form or another then i think we steer on tonight will be able to talk about your case well you can merge in his it's which were strange enough, the blue etc called them now he wrote a contact call co evolution and essentially what happened is that Is home life rearranged so that he could be picked up for ten days with his car in new zealand and a road to work on this afterwards. I'm just mad you dissolved unless it's family behind any happy to take the only rules that would take him two or three hours using is not huge country allowed not me here but is caught in picked up

21:58 And you're right when he was picked up and then take on board and give me a new body to walk around in be told various things which i start going off this stuff with gonna be three hours but essentially your rights. What is that's like the roswell, Let's just take the US. Your country annoys me, I'll say it out loud. You push Roswell on the rest of the world so...I'm not saying you but what i'm saying is Stanton Friedman and other ufologists that I've known about for years they push Roswell on us and its great but I'm pretty sure those beings were hidden in earth on caverns in caverns for ages read Anthony Sanchez book UFO Highway this is an incredible account So some ETs aren't from outside here

22:41 whatever extraterrestrial means. So the Roswell lot happened to fly around, why would they have instead of saucers? They had plane shaped, the actual Roswell thing was a plane-shaped craft it actually looked like a jet from the current era and the truth if you find one of the artists that knows about this is that it was shaped like that so no not a saucer so not all of them are like that however Alex's group was mixed with elders robots I don't think there's a Yeti there, but i have met someone that had a Yeti on board. This was a huge craft he went up in. But you're right essentially they picked him up and they basically said we did something wrong trying to move into light bodies and now we're gonna have to re-engage the timeline on earth through various means which gets us onto the black goo...I'm mentioning that term to make people sit up! Which I formally called the sentient nano substance

23:34 The first interview I did, which have sent you the links to and hope you can publish with the notes of this. And so Alec essentially went and got a 10 day not only tour around their planet on that amazing spaceship when he reads his first two editions but basically they said yeah we're sorry in our experiment to enter light bodies we basically merge with your solar system as your race And so what's coming is something that you're not expecting. But also this is partially your fault, and of course it is. This has to do with shooting down craft at Roswell, shooting down crafts in set sending fighters up in 1952 on purpose to shoot down craft read Frank Fascino book based on the 1952 press cuttings where he found that the military said shoot them down. That was the title of his book

24:21 We sent fighters up to shoot down. So these craft come down because we've let nuclear bombs off, everyone who listens to your show I don't need you to be patronized they all know that this is the reason in 47 they came down and they basically were warning us there's Minot air base other air bases where they said stop letting off nuclear bombs so we have that hole that's why they came down for other reasons They tried help out we refused that help and my view is because Eisenhower I'm depressed from the military industrial complex which is close to your listeners. Is that because we refuse to help when they say we can give you technology both to clean up your world don't need nuclear power we can end poverty and help you on your way to the stars as a kid i was wanted, i dont wanna be honest i dont feel home here in many of those that want me on this planet

25:09 It's a beautiful planet, but it is being screwed up. Because of that, Eisner under pressure turned it down and let us just get away from linear progressive reasons instead of this idea that we are being punished because Eisener has turned down its offer free energy in the end to property and move towards the stars which you were due for in the 20s or before when Tesla was around But essentially what happens, the military forced him to turn it down. Hence his two speeches that you'll know about that he ended his terms with and what happened was as a result of this these blue-gray ETs I mean they're classic grays but blue ETs were on a strange rocky island called Southern Thule near Argentina That basically they were trying to deengineer

25:52 a nano substance and lo and behold how could nano come about before the 1950s 60 70s it couldn't because nano wasn't believed in our heads but low and hold in the 80s. It sort of was when was the Falklands war? In the 1980s so what I'll leave you, and let you come back to me with the quotes that yes they came and said there's about to be a division the two universes ours through our mistake also yours through your mistake we as humans must also go We're flawed, not just Eisenhower and his military but you know we vote these people in. We vote Trump in. We vote Hillary pedophile Clinton in so we've got to also take personal responsibility for the situation." So they said to him listen to this

26:34 from World War I, but i believe it may have been before. They had an agreement with Argentina this is where this base is down in Southern Poole near Antarctica they said we're trying to quote de-engineer a nano substance that's soon to be activated by signals from space and undersea and one in the Great Wall of China which we haven't discussed before which has been proven since essentially a signal is going out to activate this now Alec was told, the writer of Co-Evolution that how clever. Think of this in a sci fi sort of way that this Black Goo something that I called the sentient nano substance before they interviewed it changed into black goo but essentially it was left there by previous go see the movie Prometheus that surprisingly came out what year after his whole discussion about black goo that an alien race before them

27:25 had left this on the planet that should they get kicked off the planets ie, They come and say we want Earth and another group stand here and go or a Federation go no you have no right We have humans growing gear or yetis grown gear or dwarves whatever it is And they go right all right. But as they leave they plant a high-tech biological nano weapon deep in the seabed in very cold conditions i'm a leaf and i think you're like goodbye and say bye yet not gonna take my telephone but the press of buttons in the signal and it starts off at terraforming office planets, this is what is told to go from mexico and several other things right so let you come back on where you want to see me too after that.

28:11 Sure man I mean this is really the meat of it and you told us a little bit about Alec and his story it's pretty fascinating in an overlaps quite a bit with this Falklands war saga. And I like to make sure the audience has the context they need so, For people who aren't familiar with the Falklands War, it was a short 72 day conflict between the UK and Argentina in 1982. It started when Argentina invaded and occupied the Falkland Islands which are right off their coast but had been claimed as British colonies since the 1940s And it was a curious thing, like why rock the boat like this? Why invade these islands just to start some shit. You know the UK isn't gonna just let it go! So the whole conflict seems to be lacking in motivation if you ask me and that's because behind the curtain this whole conflict was more about this alien base located on one of those islands One thats actually called Thule Island as you mentioned funny enough

29:10 And, of course the reverse engineering of this black goo nano substance. You can take it from there if you feel like that overview is pretty accurate for The Falklands War Yeah, okay. I'll tell you what i'l do it a bit of reverse and what say that people may doubt me on this is Mr out of talks both I myself to an alley new all Tuesdays a guy that I know the guy that ice treasure freeze honesty the guy was a car salesman engineer doing rally cars in New Zealand typical kiwi so guy very mellow country's whole different case and I don't know

29:47 You know what is this may not be able to buy james cameron and others are currently flying over there i like you himself the price of a soldier property to russian oligarch very well to rush in, how do we solve it when will be asking price probably slightly saying that's not far away but new zealand just place to go and i could going to house at max of the future done by What's your very famous people you find show the new zealand is one of the few places that rises the rest of these san francisco goes parts of england go up to where i'm living strangely district. What's the point i wanna make it nine years because i like wouldn't tell his story they knew something happened because this car which greg is gonna take too long to get into what give them some context for the car

30:36 Okay, I'll tell you the context and in a few words i'll tell you how weird it gets. You Yanks know one of the first with all this technology apart from probably China but engine management systems perhaps in the 80s okay so you get the first engine management systems in a Jaguar Very simple, you'd think. I don't know Greg how much you know about cars but imagine in 1982 – I don't know much but you would think fairly simple. But they weren't expecting to put Alec back on this planet. They thought he would naturally come with them because he had done his job down here. He said no, I want to see what happens to the Earth so they put him back down and they were not expecting it. They had to come back. This is interesting that at a time

31:13 their ship entering our atmosphere, or the scout ship at a certain point. So it was all timing you know this is interesting because it adds authenticity to contact accounts and take me on any contact account once I think we're authentic because people say well that's just someone's word no! The very fact that people add in things like they have to change the whole agenda come via another planet drop off someone else somewhere and then coming at certain times to drop him back off in New Zealand Intend a time when they weren't expected to pay is on perfect don't know the future but also i have to rearrange things and drop him off as part of this rearrangement. I dropped his mercedes are you the car salesman driven in space after splitting up with family that first time he would not be missed for ten days or two weeks

31:59 Get that into your head, right? So what's the chance for ETs to come and pick you up for the first time. Your family would miss you wouldn't they? No! He left his wife and children and was moving to the country I don't know their background it is too sensitive It is not my place to ask him that And anyway, the ET picks him on this one chance and puts him back down What happens then is car electrostatically charged something picks up on satellite radar. He takes into a garage, the garage reports it to Jaguar in Great Britain and me coming in with stuff and the first engine management system of Jaguar they send over two people from Jaguar to New Zealand and also 2 people if you want to go look this up

32:40 R-I-I-A, RIAA. Go and look that up it's the Royal Institution for International Affairs very hidden but go and look up you'll see Reagan Thatcher and the Queen this is a higher ranking whether it still exists or not I don't know so two people visiting from RIAA the Royal Institute for International Affairs I just want to prove to people are not sat here talking contact bullshit No! It's not my thing So go check that out there images out there on that And secondly, what's happened in the rush to put it back? They've put his car back. They're putting him back but the engine management system that one of the early ones has reversed its become a mirror image they fucked up The aliens have ended up putting an early circuit board with back into his car ie they picked up with him and this car which happens to them depending by any hill based on some cases

33:29 You know, you either picked up with your car usually not. So they put him back down but in the rush or I think more due to a blip because they weren't expecting to put him back down so something went wrong with a mirror image this mini circuit board one of the first engine management systems before we all have just shift stick gears on your steering wheel We have the other drive non-automatic sort thing and And again, he has one of the first Jaguars with this circuit board that allows the engine to sort of monitor itself and maintain fuel all basic early stuff. And Jaguar get this back and they go no way there's no way this can be produced we don't produce it like this but also it is too perfect in its mirror image It's not just been soldered back together by a human being This is a mirror image So they send two people over who also turn up with people from the organization I'm not going mention them again that turned up then

34:18 And as a long series, they question Alec and he refuses to say anything. Mostly because he doesn't know a lot himself it comes back gradually as most CAT-T accounts do it comes back gradually to him but in use of it had gone on for several reasons I won't go into but what happens if they keep coming after him going what happened? Why is your car got electrostatic did you get hit by thunderstorm why's this circuit board mirroring and what they do within about six months he ends up being done at four selling He was a second-hand car salesman, but he ends up being done for some law in New Zealand where ultimately they do it fraud or totally made of case and he doesn't night guy bless him. I mean when you meet him You know what? I mean when I say blessing because he's like a lamb I mean, he's good strong guy But you know, he wouldn't hurt anyone so to get nine years for simply having being a second hand carsalesman who does something wrong in their books smells a bit of BS to me and

35:12 i'm so what most people know he's nine years in jail but it's not because of his cars they know that he had contact a key painting at if you read the book. So he ends up doing nine years jail in new zealand now what noise me with black thing is lost people said since i talked about black Yes, we know as I mentioned to you Greg in our pre-chat. We know that the Black Poo has been mentioned in the blog and I sent you an X Files thing which is the most recent Prometheus. Even before that one guy from America sent me comics and he said here's all the comics! And how nice of him he sent me all these comics after which I was heard on

35:49 you know, like Spider-Man 1968 where the black goo or black gobbles were mentioned and he'd done all this research like four pages so we know that black goo was out there already but the difference was that Alec was introduced to it in a different way. Point I'm saying is that not revealing about this he went to jail and did nine years now for all those people who came after him said right well we also know about black goo again Again, a term I didn't use at the start if you watch the videos that i first did in 2012. I call this sentient nanosubstance that was our agreed term Black goo came from grey goo from one of the majestic 12 first members called John von Neumann and as you may know highly educated computer person who actually found that gray goo

36:35 whatever that was a mix of, was the first early forms of artificial intelligence. And that term then went to black goo while I sat there doing this interview so yes black goo is actually a term but it came from grey goo while i was sat there at this three-day interview I did in London with group called Amash or Bases which you can find online but the point was Alex What's the jail for not discussing anything to do with that and you a lot more than he say i'm okay about prison notes in prison. What is essentially the ets who you met during ten day voyage set a lot more than two hours ago tonight but basically said we are engineering this island called southern school if u look on your globe your find

37:17 Thule North, the Americans who managed to get everywhere after the British or did the British in their imperial days. There's Thule in the Northern Hemisphere right on top of the Northern Hemisphere pole cap and then we have Southern Thule just up from Antarctic as part of the Falklands so of course the Falklands War then started but that's the background too that But my take is, and I'll let you come back in here Greg, is that the Falklands War actually started in 1976 because this appears to be when the Argentinians... And I have a friend who will move there. In 76 they set up a base which was a quote weather station.

37:57 And essentially, 1976 they set that up and the British obviously got a bit annoyed and probably had heard by the Americans which is also interesting. That there was some ETs de-engineering this magic substance not just destructive if you got hold of this nano substance and could program it which brings us to mark and britain then you had the elixir of life or the elixirs technology itself so great help me out today in gardening. Yes well this is all greatness a lot of information of course the point to bring up alex story is that it, shows us that there are multiple unrelated sources confirming this same type of black goo nanobot substance, which is so fascinating. Why would this come up in several stories? It kind of helps to validate these stories and

38:46 In terms of the Falklands War, I would really love it to be about an alien base. And these things are usually so secret it's hard to get a smoking gun for that but for people who are new to this or are skeptical what is the best evidence that you can give us to make that case? That the subtext for this Falklands war dust-up was actually about an alien base on Thule Island Okay, well for once I'm not going to go with the average narrative on an interview here that ETs. I'm gonna go back to the same thing i said to you and again You've not replied but you don't have to and it may be different so they'll know to do with The nuclear thing that as kids we were frightened to death with Well when the Falklands war was just about at the same time just after the whole nuclear threat Oh, you know if nuclear bombs let off We've been taught this a primary school because

39:35 You know, kids. I believe in Timothy Leary's whole idea of imprinting that as you enter your early teens that you get imprinted with these ideas and fear hits you well this is why me and my mates said why is Putin after we thought the Cold War was over but now it's back when Trump or Hillary came towards the last election We were like this is bizarre But with The Falklands It's the same sort thing at the time And again go have a look at video where I've sent Craig a picture of this Our tabloids had a, and recently you'll have heard of the ability that Britain has these things called D notices to do with a certain racial issue or the idea of covering grooming of girls over here by a certain cultural community. And he went totally quiet and the press went dead while The Forklifts had three D notices now where the only country in Britain who has D notices so there are lots of gaps in what's going on. Remind me if I'm making notes

40:28 to tell you about a freedom of information thing that I found that backs this up. In fact, what you just said Greg when you've asked me the proof is a really good point no one's ever asked me that in about 20 interviews. No one has ever said what your group for okay but i'm saying to you i'll be honest and go When i saw the open a talk with my sense you image of newspaper is classic tabloid bridge tabloids and how's the world going on they had gotcha as a title in the talks i did this gotcha. What we done is read it legally international waters to british snooker bombs an argentine personnel carrier ship

41:03 They'd bombed this in international waters. Thatcher had given the okay for this, which is all related to the Exocet missile from France, which goes into a more complex issue that's going even deeper into the fact that Thatcher threatened to nuke Argentina, which I can't go into now but essentially it was the flies that hit me when I saw this newspaper headline and the flag waving. This is insane! These islands are like 10 kilometers square with a few sheep and a few people on one mare The Thule Island which ended the four course war, now no one will tell you that and you won't find it in history. Thule Island where this base essentially was underground and where the Argentines had built a above ground base which you can find in pictures I've sent Greg or on the tours that I have done

41:48 The killer is that both my head said, this is idiotic. Why would we send all these troops down there just because the Argentines and they didn't want the Falklands taken over? They wanted shipping and whaling rights or fishing rights around the area quite rightly in one sense because A, Britain's imperial age was over but also Argentina is a few hundreds of kilometers away from the Falkland Isles to Southern Thule i'm britain is thousands of miles away so it was that reason in my head but on top of that then you end up for once unlike many people talk about the contact issue i get into an argentine guy who's on their ninety seven he was a logistic soldier

42:26 on this quote weather station it was a weather station it wasn't me translating google translate in spanish very well you know like other people just go for all the british angle of brits so just send this to me i heard all these four times and british soldiers said It wasn't to do with what you say, it was to do with the Spanish flu. And no I've got an Argentinian person who was there from 1976-82 so although the war is said to be only a year or two long... No actually in 76 British were messing with this and there's a base built on them And you'll also see a photo and be aware one fake video that someone's done of almost like a nuclear bomb blowing this base up, a red base. You'll find it on Southern Phil, look it up on my stuff on YouTube is very rare video though, is the fact that there was a base built there and the point was the Argentines wouldn't risk a war without this sort of thing. I'll say one more thing that second reason rings is timeline right?

43:23 A guy wrote a book on what's called the Marconi deaths. So we had all these bizarre deaths, let's just say lots of strange things happened back at a main UK defense supplier in England right? Called Marconi who I've looked into and got a little bit more than they probably thought i'd get including internal newsletters and what essentially happened is what aligns perfectly with the end of the Falklands war it's not when they conquered Port Stanley as they claim It's when suddenly they get back to the UK, Marconi expands and all these staff working in computers who say when they activate a new technology in quotes that they found it starts altering weather satellites

44:04 Well sure. The situation there we've had a couple guest talk about in the past nick redfern would be one but marconi is basically like the bell labs of the u k and it's one of these, defense contractors working in telecommunications and in this small sliver of time that were. between 20 and 30, like you say. Scientists and engineers that committed suicide or died in very strange ways either jumping off buildings or tying ropes around their neck and then driving a car and cutting their heads off and a lot of really strange things but I was also going to ask you to point out maybe a couple of those quotes from Marconi scientists are people who worked there because you have some compelling things they've said that does

45:06 kind of make the case that they were dealing with this black goo substance or something very, very strange which we're suggesting was the substance. Okay well look at this topic as I know i've done 10 talks in the UK and Europe on this and i've done different quotes each time now i dug around got quotes from the Marconi workers one led by a think his name is Victor Powell And when you hear the testimonies from their wives You find out that these happy, non-suicidal promising working for those two companies Marconi and Plessy both with the US working on satellite engineering under submarine high tech technology. Hydraulics is the key word that I'm not going to say any more on because we're working on at the moment hydraulics this nano stuff

45:55 also had a positive impact on hydraulics in today's modern world as well as the negative one. But essentially what happens, let s go back to what I said about the nuclear thing with Eisenhower that you all know about and your listeners know about now if you go and mess with something like the atom bomb as Jim Mars said, now while I'm lying and there are certain people who come out with lies Wendell Stephen I've got a quote from him and Jim Mars he A note went out from Earth to the universe going, the kids have started playing with the matches. And this was of course about nuclear bomb and of course good old Jim Mars comes up with these classic so well versed in these again like yourself covers wide topic areas you know not just narrow focus on one thing So because playing the matches he knew was this wider term with

46:39 we're going to attract attention. That's why you were saying, we're missing the stuff that we don't know about." Well the black goo phrase that I hate, a sentient nano substance which appears to be more hydraulic in nature when it is linked to oil but thats another topic. Essentially what happens was when we started playing i mean you know and interest in the issue will know that when people turn up on find sources of landed here about this military or contact ease, they have negative effects that's good by radiation also things but this is a coalescence almost less than all the nuclear we still.

47:18 The British Royal Marines, I know in previous interviews that I've said SAS. I've now confirmed that it was the Royal Marines that went in not the SAS Special Air Service of Britain very famous or a special boat service. I've said that in previous interviews as well and it appears to be the Royal Marines that's done it because I got contacted by one and so we went in and took something that wasn't ours cause what were these friends of Alec Newells? The contactee who wrote books who is now on his third edition coming out this year What happens is that they were trying to stop us. They knew that we, so in the 18th century Greg you know that we were horse and cart in the US and UK how the hell could we have altered nanotech? So it could lie there unhindered on this island deep underground apparently its cold that keeps it inactive but once you bring its temperature or use certain things to it send certain signals to it starts activating

48:07 and gets out of control. We're so arrogant, as with the atom bomb, British take it away my intuition is the Americans may have had it already and maybe Argentinians but this is a long story if you look into the shuttle diplomacy of Reagan and his minions but I've gone so deep into this I'll bore you to death! So we take it back and what happens? We go back to Britain, a little old country, we take it back to what we think is our best defense industry in the early eighties right at the end of the falcons war and as they start to let program a final way to interface with this stuff so when i back in the UK they start trying to program this stuff and get their greedy mitts on it for good you know I believe there's good people who are passing good reasons perhaps to develop a new missile take out your enemy whatever is going bad everyone every sector

48:56 i'm so they get the stuff back but when you take something just as fun no one said i become destroyer of your like what record destroyed worlds yeah from the baghdad it was the guy who first let off the atom bomb which was Oppenheimer it was oppenheimer being a good man you're right i'm gonna hide inside the destroyer of worlds what i believe that in little britain, we became the destroyer of worlds again in microcosm all of that whole thing that wants open higher saying there are getting off and i need to do when he saw that motion flag up.

49:31 He knew that. Well, when these people saw where the satellites started behaving strangely and people working on this sentient nano fluid when they saw them start to... You mentioned it let me do in detail for your listeners just for a bit of gore factor One guy ended up tying a rope around his neck you know there are ways to do a quick death and there are other ways And the way is for your wife stroke girlfriend To find you and their ways that you don't want him to find you I need to write around his neck and i can give you another fifteen examples of the side red three different books on this stuff that you will find anywhere else you just send out bookshop so we try to read around next time you're into tree lamp postcard number which press the accelerators car, pull this head off now maybe it quit death but what made you think.

50:16 Would you agree with that as a way of suicide or killing yourself under pressure before? I don't think many people would have thought about. So this has done the same as you mentioned, it's done the same sort of thing but the blues that Alec dealt with saying no British should come in and there were several international struggles after this that I can't go into again too long to try and get hold more of this stuff The Russians were especially ahead. It seemed to be the Germans, I mean if you want a new version of geopolitics you look into this area because it turns geopolitics on its head. The Americans being very crafty staying in between but Israel has these

50:55 documents that come up showing bizarre, even if half of them are false. Even if technically the half is being true there's a war. The term Greg satellite government or as I call it in big Bill Deagle terms above government agencies so that we've got a satellite government or above governments that essentially has no relation to what we see on TV with Trump. So essentially they played with fire, like you said with Oppenheimer and it resulted in these deaths. Kerry Cassidy said to shut them up they injected them with the black goo that they found in the Falklands daily I said no it wasn't that simple this stuff has a field if you read Rupert Sheldrake morphogenetic fields this stuff has a field around so potent you've messed with it you brought it from deep underground and

51:39 And now it's going to act on you and I'm going to finish this interview by telling you something that has not been told from Alec Newell, who is about to give his third edition of his book which will back up what I am saying. So sorry if that's too good. No! It's all great and you know, I'd asked you about the evidence for the subtext being an alien base. And one of the things that i've heard you talk about before was Freedom of Information Act requests that, of course with some kind of conflict like this there's going to be a lot of documents moving around treaties... A lot of that kind of stuff and you can get the documents for all those islands except for Thule Island where the documents are sealed for 40 years and that alone is suspicious but you mentioned the Germans

52:22 And that's why I asked the question of how can we be sure that this is about an alien base because we've talked to a lot of guests about the Nazis and where they went after the war, and the advanced technology they were working on. This whole story revolves around a secret base off the coast of Argentina which is coincidentally on Thule Island. So these are things that make me wonder, like how do we know the big secret here isn't that a post-war Nazi outpost was discovered rather than an ET one? Well Greg you've hit on some things again I wasn't actually going to discuss that has been discussed between Duncan Rhodes, Alec Neild and myself for the last three years but don't forget here

53:04 The blues, the blue or grey looking so we imagine grey looking the blues that picked Alec up said We have been working and remember what I said. And there's a quote from a famous UFO writer. I think it's John Keel who said It's steam engine time when it's steam engine time and what he meant by that is basically saying this What happens you see it technologies like no in texas you might know the cases of jim marz again great mentions that these what i called blimps flying ships, let's come over they landed and now these pipes smoking bearded dwarves got out well this is all documented by several people but this was just ahead of germans inventing their so when

53:47 Kiel, who whoever I've just mentioned mentioned when it's steering time. What he is very wisely and eruditely saying is that a culture only encounters technology or sees as it is when its time for that in other words we only saw the blimps came over and people saw those that were alien. The aliens disguise things all our consciousness when we're looking at things see things of that way And it's the same with this sort of stuff, that essentially we jumped a bit here. You know the ETs have been since World War I dealing with this stuff so we went in ahead and as a result 20 top computer scientists ended up dead because what we did is jump this alien gap that we weren't meant to be involved with this stuff already The same is with nuclear bombs We didn't have the spiritual ability to deal with nuclear energy So we end up you know with Hiroshima and now

54:38 atmospheres, you know the airplanes go around and you have air hostesses with their hair falling out all this sort of stuff. But interestingly when you mentioned the Germans there you mentioned two things I've written it down so let's go through two points that are killer points on this thing Well, I'm going to be honest. So I can't answer you there because actually what you brought up great by the Germans that is, do you know what was found on the island when this base was blown up and go and see the pictures? I've got where the British Royal Marines or SAS, who did the top base? I know it's a bomb base. Then they put cutting charges on your seat of base destroyed on Thule Island

55:15 But what did they do when they went deeper down a layer? They found this Foundry metalhead stamps of Germany, and this is pre-World War I days. So you've reminded me about that so you tell me Greg what's going on there the Germans have got a Foundry stamp pre World War One. for But the foundry metal was stamped with German foundry marks, Deutsche Foundry marks. So we have that but the biggest killer thing that to me is right and again I put this in the talks and sent you a picture is you mentioned freedom of information well low and behold what happens when I do all the research into this which cost me a lot time and a lot money that didn't have that's when you go in and going through the British which Tony Blair now regrets doing

56:16 he's a raccoon was great to kill half million people and kids is as i should not freedom of information in britain because it did you know that anyone but never mind iraq side issue the free information act i get out of the gardens in britain which is where we start selling around their library and i look through all this stuff online also in the light itself what do i find that you can get any. details of the Falklands War you want. You can get them sailing from Plymouth in Britain, which is where the people left to go to the US, the Puritans or what they call went to the US so you can find where they left the ship from and you can find their logistics in Port Stanley which are the main Falkland Islands but when it comes to Southern Thule all we've got is well they sent at the end of the war... The war was over! The ceasefire had been declared but shhh don't tell anyone that they went to Southern Thule and did this quiet activity

57:09 I went and said right well give me the ceasefire document, i've got one for port stanley, i've got one for the other islands if you go and look at the map i sent greg it's up there but what couldn't i get hold of? I could order a copy of the ceasefire document. The logistics handlerships were in who signed what food right down to the toilet paper they use from I go, right. I'll tell you what? I want the ceasefire because that's going to be interesting to read. Given what i've been told at this stage, I'm still not believing the Alan Neill story of this underground base. So I go right, tell you what given this is a British war, I want the ceasefire document that says these are the conditions under which you lay down your arms because they surrounded that

57:47 Red Base for a couple of days and told them to come out. Then they blew it up afterwards, which you'll see the two pictures of but lo and behold what's the one document you can't get? And that is the ceasefire document for Southern Thule, T-H-U-L-E, the Germans call it Thule. Again, you've got to think one north just above Antarctica go find out on the map or have a look at the images in St Craig So why would i do every and believe me i spent hours days checking this so i can get the ceasefire documents for the other islands or where there was a bit of argentine troops i could guess who is brought in supply you the people on the main sports domain for islands and what the residence to quote british still there

58:32 But when I wanted the ceasefire agreement for Southern Thor, where this pound underground base was with this quote black goo that's now been shelved and don't forget I was back in 2012 then until 2019. So next year apparently and i'm looking forward to this 2019 they'll either kill me or or I'll go down there and try to get it, and it won't be available or will have been lost. Or I'll get it – I don't know." But all the others were released in the last couple of years or the last decade but one document you cannot get until 2019. Remember I was researching this

59:09 Everything else was available. I could read it all online or go in Q Gardens itself, but the one that couldn't they said we're going to restrict this the only one they restricted for an extra decade was the Thule, some Thule island and the treaty agreement that was done with those Argentinians that were sat above that supposed ET base that was there so you got that together as Why were the Germans, as you mentioned... You remind me of that Greg. The Germans had foundry stamps from I think it was like 1903 or so? We found something. So the Germans were down there even before World War One and now why would the Germans be that interested? So we have two things and you reminded me of both those things but there's two things that tell you when you look at this five kilometer square volcanic freezing cold island full of penguin shit not a lot else why on earth would

59:59 put a base on there and put 14 people on there, and then get the British to send an armada. And I can give you how many ships would like a boy today for who they sent there but you can't find one document that's given out from the rest of the Falkland Islands so those are things that I count as absolutely compared in most cases you see with people playing on YouTube where they have nothing but their own voice and those documents and foundry metal with Germans pre-World War One that tells me Why on a rocky island, sorry I think it's kilometer wide. Why all this interest? So that's the two points and the two points you brought up were to have the main points that i'd say along with Alex encounter with these so the point is and this is crucial then i'll pass back to you even if

1:00:44 This is crucial i think that people just swallow contact e-things or swallow E.T, UFO sightings or CGI bollocks on the internet The point is even if you take Alex's account out of it his written account of what they said and they said we've been deengineering this nano substance for you now you're ready to deal with it and you'll weaponize it. So we're going to try and de-engineer it." But no, we chased them out of there. They went to Tibet that's where they flew from. We hacked them on the way but that's another story. The point is even if your contactee is sceptic the two points you brought up Greg were right The Germans were there with foundry metal buried pre-World War I. And on top of that, the Freedom of Information article is only on that island and the rest of them you can find to do with the Falklands war two years worth of freedom information out but not that one. Only in 2019 can that be found

1:01:36 Yes those are curious details for sure and if you look at this whole picture it's very clear that these governments cared way too much about what was going on here they put too much energy into a small area that shouldn't have been all that important such a major clue there something secretive going on especially not being able to get that document and i guess what the black you the story is that like many times when the government. Seems to recover some exotic technology that typical movies they try to fold it into some corporation a tried to do that with mcconey it didn't work out and they ended up wiping out probably everybody who saw it,

1:02:17 It seems to be the reason why these 20 or 30 people would be dead and who knows how much progress they made. But you know as we're closing this up, You did tell us about the whole saga of The Falklands War, The Marconi Deaths, the sentient nano substance and all the subtext to that big story And of course in our private conversations, we've talked about the ufology community a little bit and you've had some not so great things to say about the direction it's gone or the way it maybe has quarantined certain information. Of course on the mainstream stage, we have the Tom DeLonge dust up. You mentioned Trump is the president. A lot of people in the alt community are talking about him being the disclosure president. I've heard that 1,000 times before. I'm not convinced

1:03:03 But you know, you also did say that you've been silent for so many years for a specific reason. And I guess I wanted to close with maybe getting that reason because when you initially came up with this presentation, it was pretty huge. A lot of people saw this thing and it was a big dust up in the alternative community and like you said since 2012-2014 you've been pretty quiet that's a couple years I mean thats a long time to stay quiet now guess im just curious what happened or what that reason might be why the reemergence now

1:03:40 What are the angles great what was the way that i saw the internet works again as i said i worked at universities on internet learning to internet. Ninety ninety so what is next row but didn't know it's gonna become this thing where, what was pronounced by one person would echo around and become true simply from a fact he was mentioned just so point i'm making is that you can now go online make a podcast or statement, or get phoned by someone and simply waffle. And everyone goes over that's really good at night you're a super soldier and kill people on when you come back in June all person. That's one example but there are many so I got tired of that a little bit but this is going to give some trouble if I say I put on the decades worth of extra politics conferences out here with another guy and we saw other people and alternative knowledge things

1:04:34 I met a lot of people, Richard Dolan's Steve Bassett many people. And towards the latter stages as i started thinking, the numbers weren't going up to the experts that we put in on and I was just like this is insane. This subject should be viral it's weird that Tom Delonge mentioned or secure team 10 their videos are watched by thousands of people tens of hundreds thousand people but you know i don't get lazy and don't get off the sofa but People were coming increasing them was to the conference that work making us broke its down hardening So I started going more towards the contact era, secret space. I did a lot of work with Gary McKinnon and thankless tasks for 10 years went down to see people in the houses of parliament and I supported Gary Mckinnon tried to get MPs on his side just starting getting deported to supermax prison in your country so spent time doing that

1:05:23 That was the plan for this task. As soon as he then gets a reprieve, the UFO people in Britain come out and are like, oh Gary interviewed to have a chat but while you might be in some danger because she was so shaved and trying to stop him going to jail then no one will actually come forward but more than that some of the big names I said well surely look if into exopolitics or evento the whole ufology thing at certain point it comes down to contacts and let's just say 50 percent i had a way to show richard dolan written three volumes of your history about that may be possible than me or another group that needs twenty miles and the area britain. Could you take you out for four five hours just and you would have interactions with what can promise guarantee isn't how to play

1:06:11 Try to distract me by it's a nice since i turn the ignition on in the car let's go outside the hill but they forgot how infrared night vision i can see smoke. No if you got my soul you'll see these things that are making is there any time invited these big names in us big names new kate big names in europe I said well surely the crux of this and this is why i don't get to stop it just left so what's wrong with that. Is because you need a crooks or whatever area actually crosses the u want to know that these, craft where is plasma intelligence is like crafter notice if she wants some sort of proof because he been looking through documents for last thirty years

1:06:51 Then you want to know first hand on me jaded this is the priesthood did this history the priest who stopped us getting into a good quote god and what i meant was. Visitor that's what i meant intelligence let's just call them out i'm not saying visitors intelligences and i'm saying that Add to all the people i asked you be amazed who turned out when i said what will you do if it's not days i'll put your pay for bnb. What is right come and visit place where my time that's a fifty fifty You'll see something and it will probably respond to you. And what I was interested in, this wasn't all on my behalf...I was interested in this person who's written X amount of books or been around for this long. I was interested how do then these lights craft plasma intelligences? How do they respond when you have another person walking out in fields with your ballads or in a car

1:07:47 How does it respond? So I had an interest in taking that person and thinking, how does that change the phenomena. Well, i'll tell you what 99% of those people that I asked said no thank you we don't want to... And all these people I got on well with it wasn't about me! They didn't want to come out so I began to think whats going on?! You can write all these books, say your own words, look at all this freedom but then you dont wanna go meet what is quote might be or not say it is the real thing at least a chance of meeting that real thing. And I just didn't get that and it disheartened me because I just thought, what's going on? Do people like a life of abstraction? You know if you're off to come face-to-face with something that you've been writing and going on about for 20 or 30 years...and then you go now are you alright even though your office is paying hotel fees so that was it and why do issues used to deal with the goo and how that got changed That was it but now my hope is that Alec will we're trying to put together some of my takes in some of Duncan's Alex also

1:08:42 a wider take on this and we hope it finds, this time an intelligent audience. I'm hoping that talking to people like you will gradually build a good...I'm not saying it can be big but I'd rather have a small intelligent right audience that gets Alex's book and then we launch in new form of contact 2.0 or the idea of what visiting intelligence is all who we are as human beings. That's It's not only about it, it is about who we are. You know that great as well as me. It's not about what's out there, it's about us." So that's why I came on basically to try and let's see what Alex's third book which is out this year hopefully will encompass some of this change and lets see if we can encourage a few more people to not rely on the priesthood but go out there and go direct remove the mediator

1:09:25 and see this thing, however that's done. Same with crop circles you know whatever it is that's the idea but those are some of the reasons I went off the radar for a bit. Right on. Yeah, well direct experience is always the best it's a shame to hear you felt disenfranchised marginalized and frustrated with the overall community but it does happen I would say keep fighting your fight and doing things your way and who really cares how the rest of the community responds we all have the internet people can tune into your own website and doesn't really matter what other voices tend to think Man, this has been a lot of fun. Really great talking to you! I'll definitely include the resources you mentioned Is there anything else to tell the people regarding your website or how they can keep up with what you're doing before i cut ya loose?

1:10:13 So, exopolitics.org.uk was a very high traffic site actually if you want to see my articles go to ExoPoliticsJournal.org I'm the joint editor, it shut down with Michael Sallow but You'll find me talking about the deep state before it's even mentioned on TV so Exopoliticsjournal.org that's where you'll find and search for my name I've got about 10-15 articles up there but they're going back decades or decade and half But my own site, exopolitics.orguk is shut down now after 14 years but you can find me at contact-times.net and you'll find a little bit of my stuff there that I'm starting to build up again after shutting down the Exopolitics site and getting disillusioned with the whole scene so that's it but Greg i appreciate your time your patience you've been a great interviewer and I appreciate the fact that you put a bit work looking into

1:11:04 stuff I've done and thanks to the song for The Siren and Mr. Knowles as well, and i hope we can talk about that at some other time. For sure man all in a day's work so yeah I appreciate it! I'm glad you're back on the scene keep doing what you do and take care out there okay cheers Greg I'm going to send you a couple more pictures so edit that if you wish otherwise best to your listeners best to you and we'll be in touch soon Oh lordy and sweet Space Force people, David Griffin a fast talker from across the pond. And if you've followed his work, a lot of this might have seemed like review but call me a sucker for the black goo sentient nano fluid stuff I think this is just a really engrossing saga A quick war over an alien outpost secret technology discovered attempts to fold it into some deep state corporate research and then wipe out anyone who learned about it

1:11:56 Maybe this stuff is the very AI-controlled substance that unpacked its coded DNA and terraformed the planet. I have no idea, haven't seen this stuff but David's presentations going back a few years really impressed me and i'm psyched he decided to come back on the scene via the higher side chats It was also nice to talk about Elizabeth Frazier with someone else too right? A bit of a different take, but the major themes of channeling and premonition are still there. But if David has more info to come out with I'm glad we got introduced so that maybe we can talk to some of the people David works with and explore a few more elements of this stuff. I would try to make sure he's got a better recording environment next time This was okay but i'd want to work with him on that before we did it again

1:12:47 I tried to press a bit on the issue also of how do we know this was an alien base? It's on Thule Island. How do we know it wasn't some hidden Nazi base and then he told us that they did find a Nazi emblem there so now i'm really confused, I don't know what to think but maybe there is an alignment of strange factions there We've heard about it before So it's hard to say what it is, but there surely a subtext of the Falklands War that has gone undisclosed and a place called Thule Island being the ground zero for it already has me excited from the jump.

1:13:26 I think he's just put together an immense amount of research too. He has fired so many photos and documents at me, sometimes i don't know what im looking at but it is obvious that the research has gone really deep and is quite respectable And Im going to try include as many links as I can for you. He sent a zip file that did not work But I'm gonna see what I can do It's a trip! And I know David doesn't love the black goo term either But it's a popular one. I mean, it stuck no pun intended as always if you like the first hour join THC plus and listen to that second hour of this and every show today we got into some of the latest chapters in The Black Goose story where the ETs are congregating now how The Great Wall Of China And The Gulf Oil Spill could possibly relate to this hidden

1:14:21 Hidden narrative and Gary McKinnon came up as well And I was thinking about his story in the wake of the newly revealed Space Force And i'm pretty sure gary used that exact term 15 years ago when he tapped into the pentagon computers and found that list Of military space personnel out on an undisclosed space platform, and here's a fun fact for you guys. I recently like three days ago, reached out to Gary McKinnon and I asked him if he'd be interested in coming on the Higher Side Chats. And he did respond but unfortunately... He declined saying that what he went through was not pleasant and he doesn't really want to talk about it anymore. That's sad for us but i definitely understand! I actually felt honored to even get a personal response because I do have so much respect for what he went through and what he was able to expose

1:15:12 I already had a lot of confidence in the truth of his story, but the fact that he declined to interview adds credibility. If he was running some kind of hoax or psyop then he'd be paid to do shows like this and talk about it instead. He's a guy who faced the wrath of the US government and does not want to reignite that fire. I get it, respect him, don't blame him…I just wanted to give him a shout out anyway! Hope he is doing well But there we have it. If you think I should do a show with David, maybe even Alec Newald or Duncan Rhodes from Nexus Magazine let me know because David suggested that he could make that happen and now that David officially knows no one gets away from the Carlwood in under two hours i mean who knows what we could get into? A little reference mainly for The Plus People but I'm glad we did this real unique set of stories for The Archives and I'm pretty happy

1:16:09 And next week we're going to get into a bunch of current event stories with a great new guest. A lot of people wish THC was more quote on trend, but I kind of like to do my own thing unless there's a huge unavoidable event of course but i don't want to get blown away with the media and the trendy stories of the day. I also like to let things happen and make sure that we don't jump the gun too early and cover something wrong I'm not always interested in being first, you know? I just want it to be good. And things are just so chaotic out there now! It's like for a conspiracy show trying to parse out the truth in the narratives that are being thrown around looking at how at odds the presidential administration is with the media and established power there

1:17:00 Sure, it could be absolutely a manufactured conflict. But with a lot of the latest issues you have to choose between trusting the government or the media because their stories on multiple fronts are just completely at odds and both the elite class businessmen and politicians and the project Mockingbird dominated media are both experts at bullshit and charging up our emotions So we just gotta be careful what we get caught up in, just because the media tells us it's happening. You can of course go too far with that too and I don't really know what to say beyond that except get ready for the next episode! You might like it? It is a perspective you aren't used to hearing me cover but we're gonna go there regardless these episodes are about the guests' perspective not necessarily mine so no conspiracy left behind right

1:17:55 People definitely loved the last show with Ross Ben. I know I did, and a lot of people told me that they listened to it two or three times... And that's great! That is one I was really pumped to release. I also think this is a great complete 180 crazy story too So I hope you learned a little something, hope you had a good time. Big thanks to David Griffin and i'll see ya soon! I've done my part... Your move extraterrestrial base operators Marconi scientists snuffer outers and guardians of the black goo You're fuckin'- You'll see God damn This plant sprayin' Don'tcha know they control chemicals that they spread

1:19:01 It gone ink I sink And i die Don't you know they control the chemicals that they spray We're sedated it blocks the sun Don't ya know they control bubbles and we're sedated It's falling to the floor, to the floor. It blocks the sun DON'T YOU KNOW

1:20:24 They control the with the chemicals that they spread and we're sedated. It's falling to the floor, falling to the floor it blocks the sun