Topic: Objectivity

Host Greg Carlwood introduces Bob Greenier, an engineer and researcher focused on suppressed technologies and paradigm-breaking science. Greenier has spent over a decade volunteering for the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project, investigating low energy nuclear reactions (LENR) and exotic vacuum objects (EVOs). The discussion aims to explore how these alternative scientific models explain mysteries ranging from ancient megaliths to free energy.

The discussion defines Exotic Vacuum Objects (EVOs) as highly organized, micron-sized clusters of electrons that behave like proto-life forms. Greenier traces the science back to Winston Bostick's 1950s research on "plasmoids" and toroidal structures in plasma. He explains how these structures can mimic the appearance of spiral galaxies and suggests that Ken Shoulders later identified these as high-density charge clusters capable of transporting ions.

Ken Shoulders, the father of microelectronics, is credited with investigating the "Hutchison Effect" and formalizing the study of EVOs. Greenier describes EVOs as metastable macro quantum objects that consume energy, divide, and interact with their environment like living entities. He posits that these objects are self-similar versions of ordinary vacuum objects, potentially composed of relic neutrino clusters.

Carlwood critiques the documentary "Gringo: The Dangerous Life of John McAfee," labeling it a non-objective "hit piece" by filmmaker Nanette Burstein. He discusses specific allegations of murder and sexual assault mentioned in the film, sharing Janice's perspective that these claims were out of character for John. The segment concludes with Carlwood's decision to focus on the "dead man's switch" rather than making moral judgments on McAfee's personal life.

Richard Dolan returns to the program to discuss his extensive research into Unidentified Submerged Objects (USOs). As a respected military historian and author of "UFOs for the 21st Century Mind," Dolan introduces his latest three-volume study, "A History of USOs." The first volume examines nearly 700 cases of mysterious objects in and around water from the early 18th century through 1969.

Jason Horsley critiques Diana Pasulka’s American Cosmic for conflating extraterrestrials with angels without accounting for demonic trickery. He argues that the lack of discernment between paranormal and spiritual experiences leads to "woke" post-modernism and transhumanism. The segment concludes with Horsley asserting that objective reality exists as an eternal principle of goodness, regardless of the cultural labels applied to it.

James Madden discusses Object-Oriented Ontology (OOO) and the work of philosopher Graham Harman. He revisits Aristotelian debates regarding whether objects like cats are merely the sum of their parts (earth, air, water, fire) or distinct entities with unique powers and persistence. Madden explains that for an object to be considered a real substantial entity, it must demonstrate its own agency and the ability to persist even as its constituent parts are exchanged.

The Greek characterizes surface-dwelling humans as highly domesticated beings, comparing their treatment during the 2020 global events to how owners treat pets. He argues that society has reached a point where people are easily "put down" when they are no longer convenient for the controllers. He advocates for an objective stance on the sidelines of societal paradise or chaos.

The Great Black Death of 1314 AD is recontextualized as an attack by large, cigar-shaped aerial objects rather than a plague spread by rats. Eyewitness accounts from the period describe these objects dumping putrid animal remains over Europe, leading to the ubiquitous blue-purple lesions that killed a third of the population. This narrative challenges the "sanitized" version of history promoted by modern academia.

Wetiko is described as a unique form of blindness where the afflicted person is unaware of their lack of sight and believes they are more enlightened than others. This condition utilizes the projective tendencies of the mind to interpret the world as an objective reality separate from the self. Drawing on quantum physics, the discussion posits that reality is a shared collective dream where interpretations instantaneously reflect back to the observer.

Wan highlights the artificiality of time by pointing to daylight savings and time zones, noting that one can stand with one foot in two different "times." He argues that freeing the mind requires tapping back into what is objectively real, such as the rising sun. He concludes that these techniques are not just abstract exercises but can lead to real-world impacts, such as the healing of his father's perspective on their family history.

Grant Cameron recounts his 1975 experiences in Carman, Manitoba, where a massive flap of UFO sightings occurred. He describes a local TV crew capturing a glowing object on film that appeared to jump 5,000 feet in three frames. Cameron details his own sighting of a pulsing red plasma-like object that bobbed near his car, an event that led him to compile a manuscript of hundreds of witness accounts.

Fenton recounts a story from a Tibetan Dzogchen master regarding the discovery of a luminous white sphere hidden within a cliffside. The object, found through a meditative vision, was later said to be reclaimed by "divas" or spiritual entities, illustrating the existence of hidden, non-human technologies.

Greg Carlwood introduces an anonymous researcher known as Kosh, who was recommended by UFO historian Richard Dolan. Kosh is identified as a detailed analyst of the Wilson memo with 15 years of experience studying cold fusion and exotic energy. The discussion establishes the primary subject as Exotic Vacuum Objects (EVOs), a specific term for self-organizing plasmas that may explain suppressed energy technologies and UFO propulsion.

Jim Elvidge identifies quantum mechanics as his favorite evidence for a digital reality, specifically citing the work of Anton Zeilinger in Austria. He discusses how the Double Slit Experiment and other quantum studies demonstrate that objective reality does not exist and that locality is an illusion. These scientific results, which suggest that observation influences the state of matter, are presented as proof that we inhabit a virtual world.

The interstellar object Oumuamua is discussed following a Harvard study suggesting it could be of alien origin. Knowles connects the object's trajectory from the constellation Lyra and the star Vega to recent earthly events like the Las Vegas harvest festival. The conversation explores the recurring use of "twin" numbers and Egyptian archetypes like Apep in space news.

The host notes the arrival of space objects like Oumuamua following major ritual events and discusses his reluctant move to Instagram. He credits Sam Tripoli for advising him to secure his brand name on the platform to avoid impersonators.

Passio expresses total indifference toward "man's law," focusing exclusively on whether an action is moral or immoral based on whether it causes harm to a sentient being. He laments that only a tiny percentage of humanity has moved beyond mind control into this objective reality. He describes the current state of society as a "nation of grown children" wandering in the dark without rational philosophical foundations.

A social experiment conducted by Passio revealed that over two-thirds of people are moral relativists who believe humans create right and wrong. He reveals the "Secret of Secrets" of secret societies: the Law of Freedom, which states that as morality increases, freedom increases. He compares the belief that one can be a moral relativist and still be free to holding paper over a fire and expecting it not to burn.

The hosts advocate for a "Gonzo" scientific and reporting community, inspired by Hunter S. Thompson, which acknowledges the observer's role in the experiment. They emphasize the importance of separating raw data from the "spin" provided by the source. Figures like Graham Hancock, Joseph Farrell, and Eric Dollard are cited as rare examples of researchers who maintain objectivity in the conspiracy and alternative science realms.