The Arkon & The Greek | Cosmic Censorship, Supernatural Beings, & The Biological Vacuum

00:05 That's true, Dr. Seuss! Here we go from the Sunshine State. I'm Greg Carlwood, and do you ever feel like life has lost its meaning? That so much time and attention is sucked up by the construct in the cage conveniently placed around our ability to do almost anything? A litany of limiting factors that are largely artificial but hold us back nevertheless!

01:03 Money, time, employment, bureaucracy, logistics and the always flashy and seductive screen-based everything tend to steal the majority of any given lifetime. And few people ever even ask what life might actually be for or challenge the monstrous matrix of the Capstone Cabal Well if the game has been to make people ignorant of or even enjoy their servitude then someone somewhere is certainly winning But today we're going to unpack a lot of what plagues us, examine the suppressed or hidden mechanisms that drive the unadulterated world and try to get a bead on that Almighty Truth with a capital T. By talking with a couple of knowledgeable and philosophical free thinkers who lay out much of their mindset and positions on various subjects through the website Greekspeak.com

01:48 where the majority of the content, insights and ideas come from a man known as The Greek. And the website and methodical presentation of this material is laid out by his associate The Archon. There you can find detailed articles and podcast episodes covering everything from cosmic censorship, communication, education to the corrupted sciences, food & diet, economy, legal system, etc. I've certainly enjoyed their work and learned a lot from the insights and curious anecdotes of the Greek, and I'm psyched to get into it with them today. The Greek-speak architects intellectual explorers of everything and cultural critics The Archon & The Greek welcome to the Higher Side! Oh thanks for having us man Yes thanks for having us Greg

02:31 Yeah, this is gonna be great. I have heard hours of your material talking together and enjoyed it quite a lot you cover pretty much all aspects of life culture and society And i've heard the greek describe himself as someone who's just visiting the earth and taking notes which I like But what can you guys tell us about how you forged this relationship, your goals for the Greek-speak venture and ultimately where you've cultivated your knowledge and wisdom that people will find there? Oh just to give a sort of brief intro. First of all thank you for having us I am The Archon which is just really harmless pseudonym from my youth that i use for making content on the internet

03:15 So, as far as how we became acquainted some years back I'd heard of the Greek from the appearances that he made on different internet radio programs be that Freeman Fly or elsewhere. And so I eventually reached out to learn more and we would discuss you know the subjects that he had brought up ranging from politics to science to finance but more than anything else, he was really able to unpack the nature of everyday life as a sort of mirage that's being upheld by various institutions like the media and pop culture. And also to objectify that something that was malevolent in its origins which most people don't pay attention too. So you know that just led to more conversations over the years and I would eventually create the Greek speak website which i will

04:00 Specify has a unique spelling of speek at the end, so not speak. GreekSpeak.com and you know compiled some articles there and we later did a podcast on these various subjects so anyone can check that out at their leisure And yeah I'll let the Greeks sort of elaborate on where he's at now in some of the projects that he has going on Okay i'm at the same place I was pretty much when I came into this world still trying to figure things out and just trying to describe what we can garner and gain from our perception. I would say the lifelong endeavors and experiences that we have here are all based on our input, whatever we get basically from our parents society...on-and-on-and-on And when we look for an equivalent a physical equivalent or perceivable equivalent in the world to what we've been told it's sort of hard to find so we have to sit back and just trust what we've been told and go along with it

05:01 I think the human on the planet right now, that call them surface-dwelling earth inhabitants and very specific about that because there's much more than just being on the surface is very very domesticated. And just to cut to the chase you know back in i think what the recent 2020 events that happened showed very much let's say an example literally, what happens when you have a domesticated being. How difficult would it be for example if you have some domesticated beings we call them pets and it's not convenient to have them anymore? You just put them down don't you right? And no one really balks about that too much so that's just a very quick cut-to-the chase kind of point on how to perceive things and again I say I'm just visiting this planet taking notes because how else can one objectify

05:56 Pretty much the point of view that I have is when you become objective, you are sort of on the sidelines but still a participant in the field let's say. One of the things that I constantly harp on is if everyone wanted to just turn everything on the planet, you know the entire society into a paradise. I'd say have at it but i want nothing to do with it and if you all just wanted to destroy each other and create utter chaos have at it...I want nothing to do with it! Is the stance that I usually take I like it. And you say, surface-dwelling earth inhabitants? Well that is a curious phrase specifically surface dwelling this is not where I plan to go with this but I am really intrigued by things that could exist or life underneath the surface what say you? Oh clearly evident! You know here's the metaphor that lets the overarching metaphor okay Greg I just built a new house okay and I have new furniture coming right why not

06:57 and a furniture truck arrives, do I place all of the furniture on the roof and just live on the roof all year long? Or do I put them inside the house and live inside where I have the comfort and control of living in a house offers. Right? If you had someone place all their furniture bedroom, living room whatever on the roof of a building they're subject to all this surface weather attacks lack of privacy right But an intelligent being would definitely dwell inside, if that makes any sense. So we're sort of subject to the

07:35 however you want to take it, visuals that were given by quote-unquote NASA and government agencies of what's going on let's say quote unquote with other planets. And they all look barren on the surface and that's a clear mark of a potential of a highly evolved society that would be dwelling inside the house instead of on the surface very simple analogy there for me. Yeah yeah you know I've used the analogy nature and what it creates, and basically you know fruits. Look at fruits like they're always far more interesting inside than outside you look at an orange is just a rind on the outside all the good stuff is in the middle and nature seems to produce things that are

08:19 within that kind of framework. So what about the Earth itself? Wouldn't the most interesting parts be inside based on what nature tends to produce, and we now know there are forests and giant oceans inside the surface? I agree with you that it's logical to be inside but not all things that are logical actually happen What do you think is actually down there, or what could you say about a potential intelligent being down there? Another branch off of humanity perhaps. Sure I would suggest that... Do i have a direct relationship that I knowingly know from beings from there? I would say no but we have lots of let's call them myths and legends for those that want to subscribe to that

09:09 No, I don't have any direct knowledge but i would suggest basic logic and reasoning using you know the roof and furniture analogy to be a place to go. And the criticism that I offer to the public at large is basically what I see on the surface that's why I denote it as surface dwelling earth inhabitants there are many ways to go with that so we're just on the surface of a very very dynamic thing just like if you look at fruit for example It's more interesting on the inside One thing is the silent power of things that grow. It's incredible when you look at things that grow, trees fruit plants

09:49 and so on that are attached to the earth. You know, it's the conversion let's say or transmutation of water and soil into these wonderful things based on the topography or the program in the seed right? you can have the same soil in water and the programming of the seed will yield whatever corresponding fruit there is And its basically atomic transmutation into all these things and it's extremely dynamic yet it's silent very quiet, and it's like you said very interesting on the inside. And they all bear a geometric structure that have more in common than we give it for example the apples and oranges analogy meaning they're very different but they do share an archetype of geometry that is very similar. I would say if we go back to the surface there's also a dynamic that's very much shared there

10:41 If you look at all the cultures on the Earth, for example... They're diverse, based on various histories and even if you look at the corresponding current culture of all the surface-dwelling Earth inhabitants of various nations or so they carry on things from their history and their culture. But the thing that they all have in common is their gullibility. And those that seem to have the upper hand and control of let's say the one world Earth order kind of concept rely on people's gullibility and unfortunately, people are very reliable. Yeah well said no argument here and

11:26 So in the cosmic censorship episode, the Greek says we need to ask the philosophical question is man supposed to be as he is today? Essentially property numbered labeled and controlled. Well I think most of us listening would agree that we've been captured but getting a handle on how man is supposed to be outside of this capture is harder to identify what would you say about that, the way things should be or even could be. Yeah I would suggest that the overarching criticism or what we see as the condition, here's the hard part is supposed to be the way it is right now at this time one loose analogy would be when you have an infant

12:15 do they usually need diaper changes and what happens if you don't? And because their diapers are being changed, and it's kind of critical. What happens if they're ignored or left to their own volition let's say I mean It's not going to work out well So I would say that things are the way they're supposed to be now but there is something about Let's just say the voluntary nature of things, I use that very loosely because most things are in that category. We choose to be that way so i would offer there is a gradient or different levels of choices that can be made that you can actually be the baby that needs the diaper change or not and thats where I instill the concept of cosmic censorship meaning it's not tangible its something that is a limit

13:07 on each individual and with the society as a whole, but even though it's overarching and intangible once it is acknowledged that there is a limitation that pretty much leads to the gullibility. It can be almost dealt with at that point. There's not much else you have to do but acknowledge that you are being censored Mm-hmm. And I do find that term provocative, cosmic censorship. You don't say elite cabal censorship this kind of implies a layer of deception or blockage from truth at a level higher than human even where does that come from and how has it affected humanity throughout the ages? Well i would say where it comes from maybe at this point is not important just like when the let's say something is delivered to your home again the furniture

14:00 You can pretty much through labeling and loose association say well this came from here it was made by these individuals but there's so much more involved in that. And then there is the point where you could be completely removed, and you know many American children are asked where milk comes from. And they say well it comes from the store right? So at this point I don't have a direct answer for that but i do see through the commonality the trans-cultural, transnational, transhistoric effects of this being persistent throughout society So I'm not so sure of the source of it, and I think giving it cosmic which harkens back to the Greek word meaning worldly basically but not just limited to man's world. Fair enough yes It makes me think about just the structure of reality you'll hear a lot of gurus and spiritualists talk about a soul school that this reality is somewhat structured

14:58 to be a process of enlightenment or curiosity or exploration. And cosmic censorship kind of speaks to me as something adjacent to a process of discovery that it can be discovered if you get away from all the distractions that are put in front us and you actually explore the natural reality Things will be revealed to you in layers or systematically. What do you think about that? Well, yes and when you describe something having layers it still comes to as a whole doesn't it and you could almost look at all the layers at once

15:38 and then just zero in and focus on one if you'd like. But unfocusing on the layers, and just looking at the whole package as it comes to you then you'll notice that what the whole package has is similarity is that all these layers are contained in it And even though they do look different They tend to be repeats maybe cross-hatched or going across each other but their repeats of almost the same thing amongst all layers I see that. We sound very philosophical right now, by the way we haven't gotten to any...we haven't bitten into any meat and bones yet Oh, well here comes the meat. So one of my favorite subjects that you guys have unpacked is the episode on science really just how various scientific disciplines have been co-opted and controlled the most interesting aspect to me in all this is what's been lost and trying to restore these discarded disciplines like alchemy or

16:35 a better understanding of natural biology or seemingly exotic technologies. And let's start with the technologies, the real nuts and bolts literally because we hear about anti-gravity devices and the work of people like T Townsend Brown. I've heard the Greek mention the NIMSA group, something not a lot of people talk about. Well what can you tell people about some of the examples of technologies and really transportation systems that have been kept from them in exchange for metered highly controllable systems that limit how free we could actually be? Wow, okay. In this case again if I brought up something as simple as electricity yes you walk into a room it's dark you reach over on the wall hit a switch and the light comes on right all the way used in every way you can imagine from what they call power plants to batteries not included

17:29 they still are able or not able to describe exactly or explain what it is. They can describe it, but they cannot explain it That is a perfect example of the intangible being relied on and how it affects the way we live in terms of transportation Just too let's say jump to the most important part The buzzword is anti-gravity, isn't it? It seems like once we have that to our avail we won't need roads and supposedly we won't need the fuels we use and all this other stuff. There's an understanding of gravity that is let's say a misunderstanding in other words the understanding that were given makes it unworkable first of all many people call it a force

18:11 And if you look at the actual referencing of gravity, it is not a force. It's simply an acceleration We kind of examine it as a force because when we let's say drop a brick on our foot... ...we feel the force of that brick but that's not gravity That is the brick accelerating through gravity and then the final forces to contact with your foot So just like for example lets say back to transportation devices one thing that you look at I don't like calling them automobiles because they're not really autonomous. They are engine-driven wagons, okay? And not motor vehicles because motor means electric and the engine is the way we use them but we're going into motors now anyway

18:53 One of the things, one of the fads with those things is to make them more aerodynamic so you have less drag. Right? All right So it seems like everything in nature seems to be about resistance and if you have let's say three portals or three openings And an object has to go through one of those openings It will naturally choose the one that offers what? The least resistance, right? Given example I think it's scientific American in the mid 1800s or later part of the 19th century, did an article about a 600 mile per hour subway car in New York City. Are you familiar with this? Have you heard it? No I haven't! Yeah i think it's like 1870 something... don't hold me up, I'm just paraphrasing. Scientific American when they just first came out. Six hundred plus mile per hour underground subway car. Well that sounds like what is he talking about right yeah

19:49 It was not a very long stretch. What they did was, it was basically air driven. They pushed air behind the subway car and they created a vacuum in front of it so as long as the air pushing behind and the vacuum in front were imbalanced, it doesn't matter how fast its moving you will never see any resistance right? And this was achieved 150 plus years ago and it was used as an example of course it was shelved and put away So, when we go back to the meme of the anti-gravity, if it's an acceleration well what is it? It's very simple. Nature always sets up movements based on levels of pressure and direction

20:34 So, in essence if we sense that the gravity is pulling us down well we're moving let's say from a high altitude to low altitude. That is an illusion that were being pulled how about the idea that there is this ephemeral force or it could be empirical known as the ether and Away from the earth, the pressure is higher and as we go closer to the earth The pressure is lower. So we're actually just feeling a pressure gradient so once this is understood where we just decrease the resistance on one end and increase the resistance on the other We have motion towards the direction of the decreased resistance And this is the basis for

21:16 of electricity, of what they call gravity, of what we call even just air conditioning vents. The way the air moves into the room and returns back to the air conditioner to get recirculated again It's all about differences in pressure And once this is taught as the basics of let's say what we call our sciences then we have an opening into you know open thought and development as we can but we don't at this time Yes, the way it's usually explained to me by say the alternative scientists. I like to say that natural scientists are ones who are kind of looking at the world the way you're describing it we say alternative but that kind of implies that mainstream is primary and alternative as secondary when it really should be the other way around

22:06 I'm led to believe that the earth has a negative charge and a lot of what we call gravity is a byproduct of electricity and that if we can counter the negative charge you know too. negative magnets repel each other, then we can start to play around with transportation modalities that really would blow people's mind because they're operating in an incorrect framework. Is that kind of how you see it? That anti-gravity is really just countering the Earth's natural negative charge? Well you just opened up a big can of worms

22:44 When we say charge and all this, it's like charge of what? Is it electrical is it physical is it you know emotional you know. It's actually all of that Let me just give you an example. There's a little meme that went around the internet for awhile on how the big jumbo jets, they don't really use the fuel that they purport to use based on their fueling sheets say they need 5,000 gallons of gas but the fuel tanks can hold more than 2,000 so how are they flying? Right have you heard this before? Yeah and there was someone that went around it's kind of obscure if maybe it could be found and they were asking aircraft engineers and pilots

23:21 what really makes these airplanes fly then? And he says, well it's really that everyone that is on the plane and is directing the plane and working on the plane believes they do. Weird! That's how they work. Yeah, it's really weird so now we're in a Twilight Zone kind of reality when you are trying to find the quote-unquote notable science, you know. Notable science meaning like referencing material right stuff you write down and its repeatable When we say charge and things like that, again we have to be able to define the thing and explain it a little bit better than just the descriptions that we get. So a negative charge would be for example the part that is taking away or creating the suction or vacuum And the positive charge would be the one that's pushing. That could be done physically electrically and emotionally

24:12 Hmm, well now you're sounding like Rudolf Steiner with the different layers of adding emotion to concepts like this scientific concepts. Yeah, very interesting stuff. So this more accurate understanding could potentially give way to technologies that work in this framework far earlier than people would expect because right now we have this combustion-based inaccurate model of how physics works and if you just peel that back, you can find examples of people who made technologies that work in this system a long time ago. I would suggest there was more accuracy in the verbiage and language used. You said combustion engine... For example if you're using a gasoline engine down at the floor you have the brake and other thing they call the gas pedal don't they? It's really an air pedal

25:11 When you push that thing down, it opens let's say the butterfly in the carburetor or the fuel injector to let more air in and then the amount of air is measured and then determines the amount of fuel that's put in. So if we change our language and our perception will see things a little different We're not really putting gasoline Let's say for example in cars To burn the gasoline because gasoline actually doesn't really burn in a closed container It gets the vapor part that burns right on the top we're actually burning the air. That's why you could substitute gasoline for hydrogen and propane like forklift in a warehouse, right? So we're chasing after creating again a pressure difference in the air and eventually that could be tweaked and modified but from working on spark plugs and throttle bodies and easily doubling the mileage of a quote-unquote combustion engine that doesn't have computer controls

26:01 And the reason I'm saying this is because if you go to a new car factory, when the car rolls off of the assembly line. You'll see a guy with what looks like a laptop or something and they tune the engine because some of the cars that come out of the factory... Let's say it's supposed to get 20 miles to the gallon right? Some might come out getting 5 miles to the gallon well that's no good we have to make it 20! And some might come out making 60 miles to the gallon well that's not good we have to make it 20 So they tune the engine using their computer Unfortunately, just to jump over to a thing they have something called an oxygen sensor or fuel sensor. If it's really supposed to be a pollution control device shouldn't it be like a pollution sensor? So again the language and all these other things but

26:45 Let's say a combustion engine like a lawnmower or something that doesn't have a computer on it can easily be doubled just with a few hours worth of work, or not even. Just adjusting the throttle body and the spark plug but once you have something that has a computer control it instills what I call a sabotage right? So again, the computer is let's say a thought machine think of it that way right so again It goes back to the thinking. I like it! Going back to the NIMSA group, I've heard you say that they used to call airplanes sky lubricators. Kind of a jokey pejorative saying that their technologies were better because they were working on advanced airships and I've also heard you tell a story that you found in a text from a university library that was taken from a garbage dump in Libya and

27:38 And that spoke to something that sounds like a piece of technology out of time. Talk to us about these examples that show us this is really the reality when you dig and find these little anecdotes? Well, we're subject to what they call resets whether it's every few centuries or every few millennia. Give an example – it's not very different if you lived a very long time ago in the way that you're thinking now Without giving a direct example, because there are many. I think there's a lot of stuff on the internet that is dedicated to OOPARTS and things like that

28:17 But one thing I just want to bring up is that when we are, let's say we meaning humans on the surface go to a certain technological level they're sort of knocked down by some form of catastrophe whether it's extreme social catastrophe you know war economics plagues or natural catastrophe like the Great Flood for example and other minor catastrophes. We get back to a situation where were just desperate to be alive and then eventually we rediscover these things as being new, and they're really not. I always give a metaphor

28:54 The only thing that changes, well I shouldn't say the only thing that changes but there are things that change every time the society reaches a technological apex for example. And the example that i want to give is if you brought someone in from the past let's say to the future what would they be amazed at? Most people would say oh! The internet electricity airplanes and I suggest they won't The thing that they will find to be the hardest thing to conceive is how we're dumping asphalt and covering our roads with this black tar everywhere, right? Because that was very well known in their society then and it had very limited use. So I would suggest that it's not microwaves or radios or computers that they would find hard to adjust to but all of this black tar petroleum that were coating our roads with—how impractical is that? I'm just giving that as a way to just look at the world

29:46 Yeah, I agree. And only because I mentioned that story from the university library in this garbage dump in Libya that they extracted Basically, you talked about ancient Greek suppression where it seemed to be a story about this guy who was scaring people away from the markets with this thing that he had which was described as a horseless wagon that spit out fire smoke and lightning. And so the merchants were like hey cops you got to go get this guy and do something with them because people won't come out and its stopping commerce

30:22 And I don't know if there's much of a conclusion there, but it's just an example of these stories peppered throughout history that are never elevated to the surface. But in aggregate you just can tell that history is a lot different than how its presented to us like you say these resets. Right and we're sort of at the point of another one now There's a couple of people that are bringing up the topic on the internet that can be researched and I would suggest if you're interested in the subject of the Resets, go ahead and look for it. But I would say that what you do on a day-to-day and how you perceive yourself and those around you and in the situation that you're in—meaning whatever society you are in— takes precedent on that because one thing that you'll find through history is those who survived the Reset were sort of in a different more let's say elevated spiritual mental emotional state

31:20 And in some cases, you know it was kind of like you were wished you were not one of the survivors because it was so rough. But on the other side there's a preservation element that those that did survive were almost like selective survivors because they had just some aspects about them that were quote-unquote might I say superior than the rest. That makes sense to me. And I wanted to bring the Archon back in here a little bit, I know that you're primarily the guy who works on the website and and you just kind of allow the Greek to do his thing but i'm curious your thoughts on some of this stuff we're talking about-the technologies, the physics, this alternative model that seems to exist outside of the mainstream what do you think? Well those things are very interesting...I mean

32:12 I think that when we talk about cosmic censorship, that's something that should be contemplated. It is not so much a lack of information that brings it about because we know that information is in overproduction today. I think the real thrust of something like that lies in preventing comprehension. It's this force that disassembles intelligible narratives and renders conclusions unreachable which is why a lot people live in this sort of unawareness where society stands and what's going to happen next which is a mindset that I do think should be scorned and avoided because it reveals that ultimately people have a preference for the things that are most like themselves. So, a person that's ignorant is ultimately going to be drawn into things that are ignorant and in order to reach some type of higher level of enlightenment you kind of have to separate yourself from that

33:03 It starts with that sort of mindset switch, that the things we've been told are normal are really the things that are dangerous. I do remember some time maybe six or seven months ago when I was getting a haircut at a friend's place and he had a sticker on the table in front of me where it said beware normal people and I found that to be slightly comical because that is very much true. It is these types of things that often thought as being innocuous in our society quote-unquote normal people, the school system, the financial system which actually are the source of a lot of our troubles and our inability to gain the proper orientation. So I am not as specialized on the matters of science as The Greek is although i'm learning about that slowly but surely but what I have found always caught my attention was the absurdity of this thing that we call society and the way that institutions misdirect everybody's attention towards things that are unimportant

33:59 Yeah, yeah. I certainly agree a lot of times we are putting the target kind of on academia and the Royal Society and those who injected all this into the culture over many decades centuries have crafted the false paradigm that the normal people eat up! And i think you're right so The Archon, that's just a fun pseudonym as you say. But I am curious about the Greeks' thoughts on real archons or the term which suggests there are spiritual forces mind parasites that kind of feed on us that direct reality some say they're attracted to

34:43 power, they can identify power. And our own elite are possessed by these Archons." That's obviously a Gnostic trope but what are your thoughts on influences that are not really seen? Not even acknowledged non-physical influences spiritual some might say oh I would say definitely sometimes the thing is measured by the effect more than what it actually is right Actually, most of the current science—all of the probes and measuring equipment doesn't really measure the thing. It measures what the thing does. And when we look at what the thing does —meaning the spiritual beings all the way

35:24 When we say spiritual, non-corporeal, non-physical. Down there's a gradient to where then you have physical beings but they don't exhibit the qualities that average humans do — let's say they live longer and they have powers like walking through walls would be one meme that one can bring up And then they transition down to the average human that might have insight into those and might use, have some of that power which we call let's say the masters. And then it transitions down to the students of the masters and it transitions down to need I say the normie? So that would be like a gradient

36:03 And if we see what the normie is capable of, and going the gradient now backwards. Let's say upwards not necessarily because upwards means better just in power we start to see a removal of what the normie world is, and we start to see a point where the normie world is mixed in with the supernatural and super powerful world. And then we rise up and it becomes all-supernatural above that. So there's a gradient there, and there's an interbreeding of both mind and physicality from when you go up and down through the scale again

36:38 I think that from just looking at what's been memorialized, the reason things are memorialized through history written whether it's clay tablet or parchment or paper or now digitally. When something is memorialized it's because it's important for posterity for people to know like people who are not present whether it's geographically present or in time to have this information carried over What is memorialized about what I just mentioned and what you asked about let's say super beings all the way down, is very different to what people—let's say everyday people if you were to ask them about them have to say. What you will find memorialized is a much more tangible story or structure than what people think about it. So when we say that there are these beings let's just say superior in power, there was quite a bit of information about their characteristics and how they maintain that power

37:37 where the average person that thinks about the subject is not aware of. Yeah, and for people who might wonder what you actually mean by that. What are those characteristics? Because we do have people like Charles Forte. We can go back even further to biblical texts where angels and things are described far differently than the religions project them. But when you get to the core of the characteristics of these super intelligences or super beings, what did they look like to you or what makes them up Well, you know the interesting thing...the easiest to discuss are the anthropomorphic ones. Like if you go to the biblical text for example man was made in their image let's say right? The gods they lack physicality or the limits of physicality but yet can manifest as such if needed or by so desired and then that leads more into the question what is physicality? You know we were sort of discussing science earlier and I would suggest that

38:39 from the mystical point of view, even to what is considered contemporary science. one will actually, if you delve into the subject there is no physicality it's just a state of motion and an example of that would be if you have let's say typical desk fan or bicycle wheel on your table when its not moving you can put your hand in between the blades are in between spokes at the bicycle wheel just fine but once it's rotating if you approach any of the area it will seem like a solid object, right? Because of its movement. So there's something about movement and oscillation frequency as it is usually described that these beings have control over and the easiest ones to discuss are the ones that are quote-unquote anthropomorphic like for example from the biblical story or angels you know we don't think of something that we don't recognize We recognize them as being sort of human in form

39:40 And I would suggest that is one aspect of it and the easiest one to discuss. So imagine an ability to dematerialize or not have a physical form based on your control over the motion of things. Yeah, that's super interesting! I don't hear people talking about motion or vibration. Vibration, yes but not so much in the motion sense but when you listen to some of these descriptions they sometimes appear as rotating concentric rings or some kind of light things that do suggest that might be a mechanism that they're controlling that alters the perception or allows them to be seen or unseen from people that they're trying to encounter

40:29 Oh, absolutely. Eventually we might discuss or you'll find in the Greek-speak discussion is the in your face examples that are put out in society and memorialized and easily referenced one of the easiest ones to come across that is a shocker if your perceptive is I tell people Go to the internet and do a search for cross-section of intestines or cross sections of lungs, or cross section of skin. And this is for an anatomical drawing. Then I would suggest doing split screen type in browser a cross section of steel belted radial tire. You compare the two structurally meaning whether it's a cross section of human lungs animal lungs or skin or intestines

41:19 Compare the cross-section with a steel belted radial tire and you'll see structurally they're identical. Structurally, in other words nothing passes through there so we're constantly told that we absorb nutrition even the alternatives oh yeah we have something that will you will absorb more nutrition, and it lowers blood pressure. And we're like how is that absorption happening? Look at all of the hydrophobic layers in the intestine! Nothing goes through that... How is it working right so there's a concept of induction which is a very simple concept, for example. They have these induction cooktop stoves that's a glass top stove and you can have a pot of water boiling on it and you just move the pot off to the side put your hand right on the glass top its room temp

42:07 pot right over the glass top again and it starts to boil again, you know through induction. Most of the devices that we use use coils and capacitors let's say but coils work on induction you know I have a power toothbrush and when it goes into the charger there is no metal contact at all just the plastic bases come near each other and there's LED that blinks lets me know its charging So once we understand and start using the concept of induction, whether it's from the part of...the creative part or the part that creates locomotion. You know when it's taught to us as young children then we'll have a society that will be more advanced at moving forward. Yeah you're touching on something I was going to bring up- The importance of induction versus absorption

42:57 It might be a little fuzzy to some people out there because they both kind of invoke this taking in sort of mechanism. But you've talked about the biological vacuum that it needs to be studied, that blood pressure is a farce. All our concepts of how biology functions are by looking at things that are dead which is idiotic and it's the how the biological vacuum is maintained question that actually starts the research. But sadly, nothing on this has been done since Victor Schauberger in the 1930s. Well what are some of these biological processes that we could correct the record on and help demystify how biology really works? Well what's interesting is

43:44 Things that are living versus things that are not living do have the difference of what we call life, essentially. And that is something that we all kind of... Yeah well Greek that sounds very obvious but when we get into defining it and explaining it, the biological vacuum is one of the core principles to examine For example if you look at the human body all of the fluids in the human body you'll see that there's no way that there is anything direct, like a tool or machine like the heart or anything, that is moving all of the fluids evenly based on the hydrodynamic principles that are taught. But if we consider that the pressure inside the body is slightly less than in the outer environment then we have freedom for liquids to move in the direction where vacuum sustains more vacuum

44:38 Essentially, it's a big broad subject. But when you combine that with induction — which is where you have a barrier where things cross immaterially You've heard, you know the elite pretty much invented science fiction to disclose to us what's going on. In something I call cosmic information in a cosmic law information is information it doesn't matter if you call it fact or fiction the thing is did you get the idea? If you want to call it fact or fiction or truth or non-true that's up to you

45:13 So they have this thing called, beam me up Scott with the transporter or the food replicator that they showed in Star Trek and that should be taken very seriously because it's not a very let's say far-off notion into what's actually happening in every living organism. Hmm so they obviously have twisted the truth and they describe mechanisms in the body that are not exactly accurate, they want to suppress the reality of this induction. Well where would that study lead? Why is it so important for them to say well your body just absorbs the nutrients rather than this induction process what are they afraid us discovering there

46:00 Okay, the thing is are they afraid? Are they fear-based you know there's a big meme about that being fear based right. I don't think they're that much afraid in the way this situation is currently. I think what they're doing is one thing you'll see in the Greek speak I use it their pranking It's a form of pranking hmmm brings entertainment You know give an analogy I visited another world once This is just an analogy And the biggest industry on that world was Kevlar or bulletproof underwear. And I asked why? It says because it's a custom, it's customary to put a thumb tack down on a seat before anyone sits on it and to prevent the pain they have an big industry that produces Kevlar underwear that everyone buys so I suggested we'll just stop putting thumbtacks on seats

46:53 And they said, well you can't do that. We've been doing it for a long time and if it starts to catch on those that produce that bulletproof Kevlar underwear are going to really come after me aren't they? Because I'm messing up their business so It's a combination of pranking. It's a combination of control a combination of culture The reason why one of the things that sets gasoline prices, for example is how much do you have to pay to go a certain distance? That's why often diesel fuel costs more because you get better mileage on diesel fuel. It's very interesting so I would suggest that it's just a strict control system there is an emotional component to the induction meaning

47:43 If you're in a bad emotional state, you usually won't perform as well if you're in a good emotional state. When I say perform, I mean your daily life or whatever it is even just sitting down to have a meal so there's an emotional component and energetic component and physical component to everything we can possibly discuss Hmm, I like it. And let me ask you about alchemy. It's another subject that has a rich history but it all sort of dries up about 100 years ago we're told that because the work was really theoretical and didn't actually constitute a real science materials can be transmitted into other materials what are your thoughts on the field of alchemy and its actual value?

48:26 Well, the basic definition of alchemy — well basically in a loose way — is where you involve spirit or mind into the process. And the individual is a variable or component in whatever process you're doing and that goes to chemistry for example when we discuss alchemy directly and chemistry's just a matter of synthesizing things are making things that you might need that are not around right? The typical one would be turning base metals into gold, because gold is desirable or whatever. But I would suggest that alchemy again if the mind component the emotional component

49:04 and the state of whoever is working on the process is removed publicly, in other words from the public mind then the public becomes very dependent on what's put out to them. And they have to quote-unquote become less powerful and more dependent again it's a dependency aspect but I would suggest that alchemy... let's just say sort of indirect and sort of direct that the schools of alchemy have gone underground and they're still being used today by the large chemical companies, industrial concerns. They are definitely being used today if you look at the field of what's called catalysts for example

49:44 If you have vegetable shortening, it's like material that looks like a putty. It's not liquid. It's basically water and oil mixed together but you can't mix water and oil together but if you run it over nickel beads, the catalyst, nickel does not add itself to the mix but because it went over the nickel catalyst now the water and oil don't separate There are processes still in metal alloys. I'll give an example, beryl bronze which is one of the hardest well most durable and not hardest but durable in bearing meaning you have two metals rubbing up against each other a bearing surface there's particular alloy that's of many alloys but beryl bronze where we have beryllium copper tin zinc and other things mixed together

50:30 If you melt those metals and put them together, you're not going to get beryl bronze. The qualities of beryl bronze... What must be done is while all those metals are molten in a vat one must break off a fresh green branch from a hardwood tree and stir the molten metal with this fresh green branch and drop it in then you will get the qualities of beryl bronze now if that doesn't sound like alchemy being used today I don't know what is It's still being used today just not public Hmm. Yeah, these are the little anecdotes that I just find really unique about hearing you speak

51:07 Another aspect of like the intelligence of nature and the symbiosis that you've said kind of in passing is that poison ivy won't grow unless it's in the presence of white oak. And white oak bark is the remedy for poison Ivy now this is something that I did not know, I got poisoned IV a lot when I was young running through the woods of the Midwest. I didn't realize it had this symbiosis and I'm curious about other examples of that and the intelligence of nature and how the natural world has a lot of this baked in. And we are just so divorced from the natural world these days, or in these concrete jungles that even a little example like that is intriguing

51:50 Well, yeah. I like giving or send people to the direction of what's called macrobiotics or the yin and yang concept it's an Asian... What i don't like about recommending it is that it's very asian-oriented and people think they have to be Japanese or Chinese to understand it right? The yin and yang symbol is very much interrelated where I would suggest that the concept of balance every culture had it but Well, a lot of Westerners are sort of turned off because they think I'm trying to make them Asian-centric which i'm not. But it's the only place that has been preserved right? The concept of yin and yang expansive contractive right and properties and how the balancing actually works And I would suggest that the remedy or solution must be in place prior to or at the same time

52:42 problem or the malady is brought into existence. It's kind of like, let's just use a dummy load kind of term like God and the devil came together right? You can't have negative or good without bad you know they come in together I used Star Wars as an example people think that you know the Jedi have to defeat the Sith it's not about that it's never in the storyline the storyline is to put it in balance It's not to eliminate one or the other. Sith are not trying to eliminate the Jedi and the Jedi are not trying to eliminate the Sith, it is just to keep them in balance when one gets much stronger than the other there is an imbalance and this is pretty much how nature works

53:21 I like it. And just to step back to alchemy a bit, I've heard you say that if you just examine the mechanisms of the body, you can see alchemy and transmutation as a part of general biology when you are low on something, you don't take that thing, you take something else that helps your body produce that thing. Talk to us about that a bit? A simple direction to point people at is to look up the work of Louis Kevran, he did the biological transmutation experiments which about a decade ago I had met someone just by chance that was part of one of those experiments in the Moroccan desert. But what he had done was examined and also using the basic scientific nomenclature a chicken egg and how it's mostly calcium pure calcium

54:12 and he decided to eliminate anything that a group of chickens in the experiment were eating with calcium in it at all. So these chickens were eating food that was devoid of calcium, they went through great lengths to make sure that none of the feed had any calcium content but the chicken still produced a robust calcium egg and they didn't have any bone loss or beak loss or anything else so then he discovered basically that it was traces of magnesium and sodium inside the living being that created the elemental calcium. And the same goes for humans with potassium, for example as an electrolyte you know a lot of people like oh I eat bananas because they have potassium right? Well it's actually again you need a high quality sodium and physical activity for the body to produce potassium in the blood so he has

55:04 I wouldn't say extensive work, but he has many direct examples like that. Louis Kervran would be an easy place to check out. Let me just throw one thing in there One of the metrics that they use for food is calories, right? Now the calorie counting thing was really crazy a decade ago. It's not so much anymore and even prior to a decade ago but let me just suggest the caloric measurement is basically the amount of temperature it takes to raise one gram or one cubic centimeter of water. It's a very simple metric if you see how it's done. It looks basically in a lab or, it's a glass tube they put the object they want to find how many calories it has in the glass tube and they seal it purge with pure oxygen something looks like a spark plug goes boom everything just completely burns its submerged in a bath of water and they measure the amount of water and the amount of heat give off and there is your caloric output The only thing with that is that if you were eat a banana for potassium right as most people say

56:08 Let's say a banana has got 80 calories. When you poop it, can you burn that poop? Of course! You can continue burning it So unless you know anyone who poops charcoal the calories are an irrelevant metric for food Hmm so unless your pooping pure carbon It's an irrelevant metric like blood pressure and other things that are being...blood sugar is another one well let's get into blood a little bit more i mean i was always fascinated by rudolf steiner talking about blood saying that it's basically a spiritual substance or substance that links the spiritual and physical in that is something you can't actually get at

56:50 outside of the body because once it's oxygenated, it is a different thing. So it's like really quite curious that it can't really be totally known in a sense because of where it's kept beneath the skin and as you mentioned about studying things that are dead this is not exactly what what blood is. Blood needs to be alive and inside the body to be what it naturally is." What are your thoughts on if blood pressure is a farce, and blood sugar's a farce? Well they say that one of the biggest causes of death is heart disease, and that obviously involves the blood. What is going on with the blood and the heart? What's the proper way to think about this stuff?

57:35 Well, okay one way to look at it is just even a cursory examination of all of the organs in the body you'll see that they're all alien to each other right? even an early student in the medical field, you'll show him a liver cell and he'll identify it as such or a cell from the kidneys to identify it as such. They're very very...a brain cell if you've ever met anyone who still has any of those by the way but if you look at all of the cells they are very distinct almost as if you have these alien creatures that have come together from different universes or different worlds to work together And when they were assembled in the body, actually all living things mammals especially and other creatures that are mobile have all of these alien looking organs.

58:19 They're all pretty much there to produce and sustain the blood in the body. They all have their own attribute on what they do, so the blood is essentially the focus. One thing that I would suggest... We said blood pressure is a farce you know basically the cuff that restricts blood flow is an unnatural occurrence and they're basically just measuring the beats between the paws and beat of the heart it's again a fallacy of a metric but I would suggest that the blood is a byproduct or the goal of all of the organs of the body to sustain and produce. So it is very mystical in that aspect, if you study live blood studies there was a thinker duo father and daughter in Canada few decades ago they were able for short time view live blood under a microscope when they would see little flashes of blue light under the slide

59:15 flash of blue light subsided, there would be a new cell developed. It could be a red blood cell sometimes it was a white blood cell sometimes it was a yeast cell right? So all of these things were being produced under let's say the effects of little flashes of yellow or blue light under the slide trying to keep the blood alive Wow Wow, yeah that's the kind of stuff that really intrigues me and just from guests of the past that I've talked to it seems like the mechanisms of water electricity frequency and vibration are the real underpinning aspects of reality that we should be studying and experimenting with because the results seem almost magical. There's this unknown quality

59:59 to a lot of things that are going on in nature that we just either take for granted or completely ignorant of, like that flash-of-light sort of thing. It seems like in terms of health We need proper charge. I mean, we talked about charge and how that term isn't necessarily descriptive enough but walking on the earth seems to matter. Salt seems to help the conductivity of our body and proper structured water seems to help produce healthy cells. Those seem to be some of the biggest components yet everyone focuses on just diet while I think these other things should be right up there

1:00:38 Yes, and these other things are a state of mind which lead to emotion, action thoughts and then eventually manifestation. So as we're really nearing the end of this thing I wanted to ask you about just some of the terms that are phrased on the website about what you do You say that you don't seek approval, you just seek the truth Sometimes that offends in a culture that is backwards like this one As we're coming to the end, other lines you have on the website say for example when I tell people that society is in a bad position they just imagine the current situation being in a worse state but that's not it. Things are worse than you imagine because of things you don't know anything about or

1:01:23 The contrast to what people think is going on and what's really going on is so huge that you can't talk about it publicly. Well, I am interested in the rawest of truths, the deepest of rabbit holes, the most taboo truths available. What would you consider to be the most taboo topic that you could speak truth on? Like, what are the truths that sometimes seem to even make other truth seekers get a bit queasy?" Okay, that's a really good question and it doesn't need to be pondered much basically because of the tools we have. And I say basic tools most people have access to what i call the stupid rectangle right? And devices that they use and one of the things that I tell people

1:02:09 when this is brought up, is if you go and look on the internet for the weirdest most outlandish conspiracy theory whether it's like Dulce, you know, The Underground Base or Spiders on Mars or cloning or anything like that. The reality is even worse than that! It's even more extreme than that so the most extreme stuff on the Internet is probably closer to the truth then you know. Well, I like it. Broadly speaking yeah, it's hard to know exactly what that means but I generally agree Yeah and the thing is to not take where it drives you insane and don't be prepared to do a public recitation or dissertation on it because its not going to be accepted when I say public it could just people within five feet reach of you but just take in the information

1:03:03 I always say from a cosmic perspective, information is just that. It's not whether you think it's true or not — is did you get the picture? Do you have the notion? So later on very often I tell people certain things that can be accessed and I don't like explaining them. Like for example the word nice if you look up in an etymology it means foolish stupid and senseless But I found that if you tell them, they kind of brush it off or give you a chuckle. But if you ask them to look it up themselves, it packs like 75% more punch! Right? So actually giving a laundry list of what I think is outlandish would be not as impactful as if people looked up what they tend to have a tendency to look up on their own and I'm suggesting that the weirdest strangest most fringe

1:03:53 Stuff that they could find on the internet is still mild in comparison to what's really going on possibly Yes, well that sounds like I'm gonna have a job doing this for quite some time which it's gonna make the way secure kids happy Yes job security for sure. Yeah indeed Well, this has been really interesting and insightful. I appreciate the Archon for getting us together you guys ended your 10th episode saying you'd be working on a new website for things that people might consider esoteric now but will be more familiar as time goes on is that still the plan? And what sorts of things are you referring to guys? Well yeah That website has actually also come to fruition and it has been concluded It's called Godspeak dot com Oh

1:04:39 I try to be creative with my names, but they invariably fall into the same template. So Godspeak also with two E's. God- S P E K And there is another podcast on there It didn't progress as far as the Greek speak it's a sister site simply because well different things this so called pandemic came along and A lot of time was taken up with other things we did get to episode 8 that should be good enough for most people though We might conclude it at some point in the future Also, a few articles on there not as many as Greek speak. Now that people are starting slowly but surely to take notice of it, I may return to actually completing some of those things. But it's on there for anybody to explore." Oh man! It's so bittersweet because it is very rare that I miss a whole aspect of the person's work but these sites aren't necessarily connected...but now I'm seeing you got the ancient world spirits and soul, the gods, Judaism Christianity Islam Eastern religions

1:05:41 Very intriguing stuff. I mean, maybe we'll get to it in a future interview but that is great! I like the formatting of the websites, the presentation of the material... Good stuff guys! I think what you do is worth people Check it out! So, Greekspeak is the initial website. Godspeek — same spelling — is the newer one... Any other links or parting information to give people if they want to dive deeper into what you guys have done? Yeah I'm also doing a current project, CurrentSonics running with... You can find it at ocelli.com It's a current project

1:06:25 You go to ocelli.com, spells just like it sounds and it's a sub-project, it's subscription only, not open to the public and it's called Rated Y The Unculting of Humanity. I like it! Right on! Well again thank you so much, you know about a lot and thanks for doing this take care out there both of ya Thanks Thank you Secret sciences, cosmic censorship, supernatural beings and the biological vacuum. Oh my! Definitely had to be unexpected guests which I always like to surprise people with. I like their pseudonyms, I like the cadence with which they speak...I'd say they make a great team and pride themselves on trying to talk about raw truth in a whole host of areas at high level. I think that's something we got a lot of respect for around here right?

1:07:22 Of the subjects they cover, we could have done more on law government or military but it's the secret sciences and hidden physics stuff that I like a lot because thinking about common things in new ways is exciting and you really can let your imagination run wild in terms of the reality. We could be living in if the blockage could be lifted I like hearing new names of bright minds we can put up alongside Victor Schauberger, Wilhelm Reich and some of the others. Today that was Louis Kevaron and Rudolf Haska. I think is how he pronounced it but Rudolph Haska's work is interesting because He was studying how vitamins work in exposing simple life forms to various things And ultimately found that just proximity Was enough to cause an effect or reaction

1:08:16 Which might say something about that health and resonance idea. You know, I also like alchemy talk when we can get it and funny enough i got off this call and saw a post about this guy Stefanovic Rabenikov by someone who was highlighting him because it was his birthday. He's dead now but in honor you know? And Rabenikov was like Schauberger in that he just studied nature and tried to replicate or create technology based on it The gist of his story is that he was laying in a field admiring the beauty of nature and started to feel ill. And then, he realized that he was resting over the top of a hive of a type of bee that makes their hives in the ground I can't remember if he dug up the hive or just looked at it and made a structure that mimicked it but in the lab you would notice the same thing If he waved his hand over this artificial hive

1:09:12 He had some other people do it, and some said waving their hand over it felt warm. Some said cold but clearly there was some kind of field effect going on he ended up calling it the cavity structure effect he also did see some magnetic effects and then ended up building these lattice structures into a box kinda like a suitcase And he ended up realizing that you could not set things on this box. It repelled them, basically shot them up into the air just like if you had a briefcase with negatively charged magnetic plates and then tried to slide another one on top of it it would repel it up into the air and down onto the floor! This is crazy because there's plenty of video footage of it That's what I found so damn interesting

1:09:58 Then he made a type of platform with a handle you could actually ride, a little hoverboard thing using the same basic lattice structure that he mimicked from the beehive. Then this video which was from The Universe Inside You channel, great channel made some points about scientists saying that flying physics of several types of beetles don't add up and the conventional speculation is they are hovering rather than flying somehow And of course, if you look at the cross section of their wings they share a similar pattern to the hive. Then think about the ancient world and Egyptian motifs of the scarab beetle and wonder if maybe they respected the beetles so much because that's how THEY learned this secret of nature! Really wild stuff! Check out Universe Within You on YouTube and see the whole video

1:10:52 But these are the kind of guys I find most interesting. Probably the most interesting kind of person ever and so few in the mainstream ever hear about them or their discoveries So fun episode overall, I appreciate their time and work they do check out Greek Speak or Godspeak if you want to hear them go deeper without me getting in the way As always the first hour is good but the second hour is even better In this one we talked about lost technology and the importance of procedure, lawful timekeeping and the effects of the Pope's work schedule. The deeper effects of rulership by artificial time, the importance and effects of seasonal diets... The Greek gave us his Discernment Guide to Life and talked about the 180 inversion principle

1:11:45 We got into aliens and the dog-headed people, project looking glass ancient relics and et gifts. What it means to say that we're now in the credits of the movie The Greek talked us about the dog bowl humiliation ritual that all politicians must partake in And we talked about the difference between The Fringe and The Alternative So go ahead upgrade to plus get the full show and keep the Carl Wood train on the tracks eight bucks a month five new shows a month and one hell of a big archive. And higher side news, well when it rains it pours if my life wasn't hectic enough right now one of the two main systems we use to run the plus membership infrastructure had an update that broke compatibility with the other system they've already released a bug fix but anyone who had a transaction process in that 48-hour period shows up as inactive in the system

1:12:43 Obviously support tickets have flooded in and my guy Mike is not only working to answer all those but also wrote a script to correct the rest of the accounts. Most likely before many of you noticed, I think it's like 5% of people were affected locked out for a day or two But it should be all fixed now Or it will be fixed very very soon These things happen from time-to-time but we use good systems And I hope nobody was greatly inconvenienced But that said, I think we are going to get all five shows out this month. This one being number four. I got two more recorded from a hotel room over the last few days so i should have at least one show buffer while I try to get the rest of my life in order and get everything set up at home And with that let's go to the meetup calendar April 29th today We have The Sin City Conspiracy Enthusiasts hanging out in Las Vegas Nevada

1:13:41 Tomorrow, April 30th Asheville North Carolina. May 6 Dublin Ireland also may 6 Sedona Arizona also may 6 High Springs Florida at the high springs brewing company and may 13th at the 7018 brewery in Elko Nevada and we'll leave it there I like it. Sounds like people are getting together as we speak Go on in at highersidemeetups.com and find the other THC fans near you because it is your inoculation from indoctrination Networks are important and all that, you already know But that's all she wrote guys Thanks again to The Archon and The Greek And to you for listening

1:14:26 I've done my part. Your move, secret science secret keepers cosmic censorship servants and consensus-centric thinkers! You're fucking dead.