Michael Wann | Conspiracy Magic, Cycle Management, & Crafting Culture

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01:54 Here we go, Hiresite Chatters. Another day another deep dive into the strangeness of our multi-leveled matrix and what it is that makes the cosmic clock tick You can look at the layout of Washington DC The twin pillar ritual of 9 11 NASA missions The Harvest Festival shooting Corporate logos or even Rockefeller Plaza And you'll see a thick film of esoterica coding nearly everything the oily appendages in the nefarious few have touched Well, today we're talking to a returning guest who thoroughly blew my mind earlier in the year with his work on the highly ritualized Susquehanna River Sir Francis Bacon John Dee and the summoning of technological demons from Eniac to D-Wave

02:35 His name is Michael Wan and his work can be found at sasquahannaalchemy.com, and today we're going to turn his ritual revealing skills into a few recent events and try get a better understanding of what's under the esoteric hood, how the elite understand reality, and the mechanisms that make this magic work The ever impressive sasquatch on a sage himself michael one welcome back to thc thank you for having me my friend that's quite an introduction quite an introduction thank you, thank you i try and this is the real treat because your work is some of the most amazing stuff i've seen this year it all connects so well and really does expose.

03:12 some chapters of the elite's esoteric playbook that I'm sure most people had no idea about. It connects to some of the most notable figures in this sort of history with Sir Francis Bacon and John Dee, but it also covers their trajectory of computer technology which could very likely be the most important factor in the human story when it's all said and done. So I really can't say enough about how impressive your work has been and I'm just psyched to dive in further man! Alright me too i'm excited to do this as well. Right on. So we were going to start with the Thousand Oaks shooting we had on November 7th where we're told a shooter opened fire inside the Borderline Bar at 99 Rolling Oaks Drive, where according to witness Nicholas Champion 50-60 survivors of the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting were actually in the bar? That alone is strange but give us your thoughts on the Thousand Oaks shooting and what leads you to thinking it was a ritual more than just a random event

04:11 Alright this is a great place to start and i think it's also on the quick snapshot is it so interesting with this recording this three and half weeks later, end the new cycle go so fast that this is almost old news but i wanna go back in time and kinda. paint the picture of what was going on in the collective because at least from the lens which I like to look at things, i like to look at it from the conductor's perspective. Whom or whatever that may be so The shooting was on the 7th Which was a Wednesday and The 6th Was Tuesday and that Tuesday was the election day And so now we're gonna go back

05:02 Another month we're gonna go back to october the six and this was the night of the final cabin all hearing vote, and if you can remember what the collective emotion was at that time it doesn't matter like stepping outside in the story and were just looking at it from a higher level. And does it matter how u see it if you are add all involved with it You're getting really really worked up inside your feeling the emotions really build and this is time perfectly which is probably to a lesser scale but definitely two different audience with her smaller overlap it was the UFC conor mcgregor and could be fight.

05:46 and so imagine these energies are building up and it's all this fight energy, and these guys are linked to i mean just the fact that connor mcgregor is trainers name is kavanaugh there so much like deeper stuff like working in the collective unconscious. Show then the tide kind of the collective drops a little bit. And then it starts to pick up again as the biggest election in history you know its coming out and so it's pulling on this already heightened emotional Sentiment in the collective this is dealing with anyone's purse you're even looking at personal life for other stories so the election comes you have this huge like build up and then there is a release regardless of whatever side u r one and then the shooting occurs at eleven fifteen pm.

06:34 And now we want to go and look at the heavens because two interesting things are happening one of thirty day cycle and the other is a twelve year cycle and so what's happening is there's a new moon on the seventh so, new moon represents always like you know no you know i wanna start something gonna tap into the natural greater cycle and follow along ride that way it's kinda like riding downhill like the benefit of gravity so you wanna do something new and then we also see. six hours after the shooting occurs and this would be right around when the east coast is. Waking up in getting more so going to work maybe not waking up and jupiter, the king of the planets if you will moves into its home sign of sagittarius

07:34 So this means it is starting a new jupiter cycle. And it's also tied into the lunar cycle which is like a little extra boom and so I'm gonna be open to this was done absolutely consciously and purposely orchestrated but i'm also open to the opposite of being it's the flip side you know that's what orchestrated this happened at that time regardless jupiter going into sagittarius from an astrological and elemental symbolic perspective is all about fire.

08:15 These are fire signs and fire planets jupiter is the biggest planet from a. Symbolic perspective it's a gas giant it blows everything up it expands the quality so weather that's talking about. Astrology in someone's astrological chart increases the qualities in that sphere, this same idea would hold true if you wanted to Do this to a time ritual or ceremony and you're going to be tapping into all of these energies in this is around the same time we really seeing the california wildfires at least here in the east coast right around that same time the amount of coverage was really really picking up. And one more layer is then the symbolic nature of ten thousand oaks,

09:08 Oak has a strong strong. Is it and symbolic mythological connotation i mean just what is your knowledge strong incredibly steadfast, quality your tree energy and then ten thousand that connects to both like the down day jing i think its like the first chapter you know there's one of them to another ten thousand things So ten thousand is like it also got us worship you know the whole idea of there's only one goddess and she goes by ten thousand names. So we're tapping into these two kind of charged words or concepts so everything around lines up to ritualistic in ceremonial purposes, set at least the way i see that

09:59 What is super interesting cuz you can see that there are timing elements that are just too precise to really be coincidental but like you said it doesn't really tell us about the. Motivations behind it or was a conscious unconscious and even with something like the california fires as a lot of people saying now is directed energy weapons so again is it like, Are there people pulling the strings of reality and forcing these things through at the right times to heighten the energy or do fires just emerge, because the fire planets going back into its main house it's a fire symbol in house like. It is a curious question that stuff is still slippery determining cause and motive i couldn't agree with you more now like are you position did i try to use my words carefully

10:51 It is my opinion that certain elements of this were very much orchestrated but i can't say that for certain because i haven't been exposed to those emails. You always have to hold on to a realm of possibilities and then you know you go with whatever makes the most amount sense at least thats how i, what about it when i express this i also like to express a little bit more open as to not necessarily lead What is the connection is strong and the way how i frame it up in my mind is.

11:30 The ancient center real simple model for reality you know you had the heavens you had the earth and have i'm the underworld or hell knows can be looked at. From a lot of different ways literally symbolically all sorts of different things in it applies across a lot of different boards, end i think he goes without saying that What will use a house is analogy if we live in the middle world you can influence and that's like the main floor of what you are living on, you can have influence or not experience by going underneath by going into the basement. And you could also have different experience let's say if you could look down and

12:18 What the lower world in the higher world for whatever they may be and i choose those words because i don't know what do you think that's what we're all trying to do is figure out what exactly this is. What does appear to be the separation and there are people in our world whose job that i say that with quotation marks around it is to go on either the above or below what's the purpose of influencing. The outcome of this middle floor which were living long and What we can see with the alignment and we know this we know that this is just part of history this is what.

13:01 The secret society is what the layout as you said in the beginning washington dc like there's a very, conscious and known element of people doing this so i mean theirs it's not like that is hard idea to grass and to accept being factual. And then we see all these clues around did i think it becomes easier just say yes the probability is yeah this is really happening And this is being orchestrated in a way that the outcome on earth is to align with whatever's going up and the stars whatever the stars maybe. And we also see that done, going underneath with a lot of the ceremonial aspect and i think that translates itself from both like probably ritual being done somewhere

13:54 You know bohemian grove type sort of understanding but maybe somewhere else in a private house or something like that. This is just a side note i want to pause for a moment I live outside philadelphia and there it is beautiful garden, open to the public called longwood gardens and it was in the state of the dupont family who then gave it to a foundation started foundation opened public beautiful beautiful thing When i walk around all i can see is like this is where the switch was gonna take and this is what that's richardson take so my senses if im gonna say which is probability. That's how it works in so these places this model is happening all over probably somewhere nearby there was a ritual that happened with it, we know these rituals happen and

14:43 It also is timed with a lot of this subliminal stuff you know that's our own personal on the material level are under world and that's why we're seeing like all of this. Coded language being put in to ritual itself, i'm describing it from a technician perspective if not necessarily from an ethical or moral or that perspective just like this is how it certainly seems works. Yeah man There were a couple other elements even on top of the astrological timing when it came to the thousand oak shooting. That i thought were kind of curious like one thing I highlighted the fact that there was this witness nick champion which already is a,

15:27 Symbolically potent name you have this guy named champion who's been interviewed on the news about this and he states that fifty to sixty people from the harvest festival were in the bar the night of the shooting well, fifty eight people were killed at the harvest festival so it's just a little weird. that he's like, between 50 and 60 people were here from there. And it's the same number really that was killed? I thought that was curious and then we're going from route 91 to a bar on 99 Rolling Oaks Drive. And even that seems to speak to two bookends to me with the 91 in the 99. I'm not really the guy who unpack all this but you start looking at the numbers even and it's all symbolically charged and you can't help but be a little bit skeptical

16:14 Oh i mean i couldn't agree with, We're all playing this game it seems where we are in a dark room and we are touching pieces of the elephant. We're trying to figure out what it is and each one of us like me, you and all the listeners and other people who are kind waking up to what's happening is like we come at from our own perspective and different things are gonna really jump out at us. And it seems to be true on all these levels And this is where it gets really really tricky is in trying to decipher it but you know what has all the elements of a stage drill and possibly like a stage drill becoming live. No when u got all these sort of things that happen but that seems to be a technique we're seeing going over and over,

17:07 And you're right like with the numbers in the same way you just described a number killed in las vegas with the sixty and fifty eight. Is this a way with one of the nine to the nine to the one that's the same sort of like play with numbers like reverse numbers is the same sort of When the unconscious of the person who's listening to this their brain is like doing this with a number game that just how the brain works and so it's lincoln in talking people that's how it works, can you have all these different i'd like to call me tricks. And the matrix is just any system which is self containing there's always like. Hundreds matrixes at a time both collective and personal matrices in so, when we are in a matrix the most important thing to recognize when you're in it you can't see if it feels real and show if you were able to step outside of that or someone is outside of that matrix more control they have control of that what your living room

18:08 These ideas the stories are like you know mental matrix is but they're also like energy matrix is not this stuff. What their real people who went and if this was a drill which it certainly you know that's a realistic possibility, There were people that went and they created it there outside of the matrix in bay are creating this experience reality for people, can they understand it differently than those who experience it particularly those who are seeing it on the magic computer box. And then you have to realize that their matrix is even deeper than that which those people living in and those are the guys or ladies entities which really going deep

18:52 And so it's at some level do they all connect are they all connected because there is no i'm gonna just say like a frequency of call which they're all in touch with what we're all in touch with different ways and that's why its going into our mind. These are all just kind of ways of describing almost something we can't fully understand because were so gross to me but we can kinda sensor way into it, and then make logical deductions but it certainly i want to give you like another example after this which kind of looks at a different perspective, what are the finish that statement it's certainly looks like this is the modus operandi technique which has been done and this is exactly how francis bacon wrote about he wants to do what he wants to hide clues in all his work

19:46 As he described, it is his joy to hide it because it is the joy for the person to discover it. And then you're like okay what does that even mean? Alright, yeah it's very cryptic. And in terms of the bar shooting I know we didn't want to spend too much time on this one event but there were just two more points i wanted to throw out there one being that I've heard you mention that the number 400 speaks to completion and they're actually 404 days between The Harvest Festival and this bar shooting An event where the same victims or people were supposedly involved

20:22 This other thing is just kinda weird but you had said that the Jupiter cycle's about 12 years and I know it's not an exact thing, but out of curiosity i went back 12 years from the Thousand Oaks shooting and just put in the November 7th 2006 date with no context into the Google Oracle to see if anything interesting happened on that day. I know I sent ya this before the show but The whole first page of those results were just 10 different news stories about a big UFO sighting at the O'Hare Airport. And I don't know what it means, but it speaks to this interplay between the sky and the earth that very much seems wrapped up in all this. Like you had mentioned maybe it speaks to some ethereal tuning fork and we just have these threads running through if you pick on any one them and follow them either direction

21:11 They lead to these places that are just hard to believe. But follow the weird threads and suddenly all these sorts of things we talk about get put in the mix! So I just thought those were two things worth throwing out there, maybe you have some comments but then of course we can get back to that other example that you had mentioned if you like Will you're absolutely right the chicago ufo hit what you found was i mean it just, get to a point where you just almost laugh because of course this is there's going to be something obviously the flip side if you look hard enough you gonna find something but i think that's the nature of the game it's almost like placebo.

21:50 The definition of placebo or the way most people understand it is the inverse they look at placebo with the mistake as opposed to normal placebo was the secret, be able to heal without taking a pill. As you were saying though the four hundred in the for all four and forty four i mean its just one more level yes we can find these things happening Again and again in there realigning our consciousness i mean if you think about it this way is what we think is what we ultimately experience look for all that sort of stuff so if we can get into the underworld deeper level of someone's mind by putting these, particularly numbers are so strong. Into the back people's mind just noticeable enough that

22:41 It's gonna capture attention but not noticeable enough that most are going to pay attention to the conscious number player wordplay. Get sin and it changes a vibration of thought is a vibration brain sends out energy waves waves go in frequency that's a vibration so its literally tuning show, i want to jump into this other example because it kinda plays with it doesn't line up so much for the heavens lines up to tune we're gonna go back to the year twenty fourteen that's four years ago and it seems like at least for me it seems so long ago because, so much has been occurring but beginning in april of that year was the bondage standoff do you remember that i do yes. Okay answer the body stand off if you were to say like general archetypal words which would describe what would you say that was about

23:41 Conflict conflict and people hoping for freedom oppressors crackdown okay so we have all that and then who was the bad guy. At least for those who sympathize with bundy because were looking at this outside of like how we feel about it which is analyzing it so who is the bad guy cast against one to who's his opposition, Government i think would be the villain in that saga more specifically the bureau of land management ok yes okay and so what were they generally known as blm. Alright so then five months later,

24:19 In ferguson missouri there was a shooting and the young man by the name of michael brown with shot, add it led to large scale uprising because of protests against police brutality. And it was from this event that a very large movement was introduced the collective consciousness you know what i'm talking about i get it now black lives matter. Black lives matter blm with blm blm black lives matter has the same archetypal qualities associated with it as the bondage standoff its oppression,

24:59 it is rising against the government and did you see anger and its rage. And what's interesting in this is one level of these two parallel symphonies, the BLM is tied to government on the other side blm is applied to the opposite of the government like a mirror yeah there we go so now the question becomes well what's blm Yeah is a good or bad cuz it's like representing both sides of the argument well so let's go soak in ancient hebrew you know actually notice still modern hebrew the alphabet is continents there are no words or spelled and i'm getting a cabal here you know this is the basis of a lot of the western magic practice. It's based upon using words,

25:53 particularly working say ancient words is where we're going through we don't use the vowels which just have a consonant so now i'm gonna go and look at b l m as it relates to a word. It's a name because its being summoned you know that's what all of this chanting that's what all this emotion is about, when u go in your start looking up who blm is any cblm hits across a lot of wide places What jumps out at first is blm is the historic name of anyone to say i'm gonna call it's a store named ball and bolland was the king of hell. Okay wow so we got that you know go in check into demonology this is who ballad this is being chanted upon with the rage and emotion and fighting on both sides,

26:46 And there's another hit with BLM because think about it is almost like again a frequency like something we can't. We use narratives when you people as a way to understand that so blm is also character which shows itself in the bible both in the book of numbers and then the book of revelations and different versions have them is a good guy in different versions have him was a bad guy but he was here, any stocking about like you know what the end of days Now we got that and then we got the third level is a very very sacred name associated with the high priest in ruler within the mayan empire.

27:29 So we have the same like blm blm and there's some similarities to it there some differences but you know, this certainly seems to me to at least yes when there is a level where its real i'm not discounting any of that. What does also level of higher slash lower level ritual in magic Yeah that is such an impressive example and it still boggles my mind about is a conscious or unconscious but if we were to maybe assume that is conscious if you're trying to reverse engineer, how could even be possible are what someone is doing is it that they are finding things to inject into the new cycle that. Better rate a certain entity they want to invoke our strength in well

28:20 This is the way i understand a great question like you post that so to my understanding at least what makes the most amount of sense is. There are different levels and different layers you know it's high archie old and its gonna depend upon if we're looking at individual people where they lie in both consciousness and actual rank within quote unquote this system shadow system, What makes more sense to me what's happening simultaneously is so blm. It something in it something which exists at either the lower or higher world exist outside of our matrix of understanding we're trying to understand that with a rational mind and physical bodies were in this world we try to understand, but what we're trying to understand exists outside of it

29:13 And so in my opinion a big occurrence happened with the transferring of information to john d during the workings which he was doing with edward kelly yes. And it's my opinion that it was at that time as they described from the no key and is there giving him this system like the story goes is their giving him the system too Open the watchtowers to let in. Basically a legion of demons and these demons will do whatever you want to do that's what it said in the diary site so thats the purpose you can open up and shut the door, end you could go and do this and so a lot of historians are experts john dee i'm certainly no expert they will go and contend that he just brought through the system in the systems be used sometime in the future and

30:06 Crowley plays into that and he was opening these gates and so forth but it's my contention. That just the transfer of it was like, Gates were open whatever that may mean however it is parallel exactly to the description of what Gordie Rose says about D-Wave or what the folks at CERN describe in terms of like opening up dimensions are accessing parallel universes we're talking about this opening its the same sort of stuff the same symbology i think stuff was opened and what comes in is it necessarily physical as much as it is a spherical and that is way for him, the more you are the more you pick up that and the more you are tuned to it the more you naturally try to tune other people like i think thats just the nature of how its setup.

31:02 And that's what happening and so you know you can ask the questions like does this fit with part of the plan your personal stuff but no this is more like a description of where we are, i believe it's happening faster and receive becoming more work cumulative edit showing itself in all over material reality in this sort of stuff. No one because i was kinda dark because we're talking about demons you know i want to balance that like so thats a technique. And that technique is also been used from the most ancient of times with the fire ratio where the golden ratio, do follow me when im talking about that yeah i do okay so the golden ratio is not get into the math it's basically frequency because it is express mathematical and that's always can be expressed as wave

31:54 How the physical world show is built upon it shows itself in infinite ways and every way possible always tied with harmony and beauty growth, and the ancient wood build their cities and they would live there lives in accordance to that because the logic would be. I want to be in alignment with that and i just go about my day i set my city up in my house that way and this frequency which carries the universe which i am part of will carry me as well. And so that's the same thing what is happening,

32:30 Everything else is occurring that's a greater matrix i would say but it appears to be the particularly for this ritual destructive, end of days which is what it appears to be and what i mean by that is an astrological age. You know you got the geopolitical aspect yes it's true and then you also have a time to a larger clock which is the processional equinox. Which when we think of the age of aquarium so it's worse seeing destruction of old as the birth of new in this is how they operate this is how the modus operandi of those that orchestrate life to me or the heavens. Yes i think that

33:17 That's a great explanation it can help us to understand some of the stuff i was also thinking about bm a little bit more cuz that's just so fast and think about like you know what may be. An energetic gravity well that pulls things in and then amplifies been spit them back out and maybe its somewhat of a conscious entity that wants it Name better rated and through whatever means weather it's black lives matter something else in that just got me curious because you mentioned of course new cycles move so quickly. Have you dissected similar examples maybe more recently we have a lot of stuff popping up in the site guys like the meat to movement or a caravan at the border where,

34:04 Curiously enough immigrants are denied access on thanksgiving week like within forty hours of a holiday all about, immigrants and you know coming together we have this complete opposite thing happening i just thought that was weird timing. And i don't know i guess i'm just curious anything else more recently than has popped up on your radar Well i think you just nailed it mean i didn't even think about the narrative of the caravan tied into thanksgiving but your absolutely right and that's kinda how it plays and. There is a destructive element which is undoubtedly happen and i say that in like a general way, you can see it in so many different ways of material reality and how u describe to be lm

34:56 This is my thought i'm just conscious of the words which we use because my experience has shown it's exactly what you're talking about if one is not grounded and if one is not. Steadfast in how they approach this, What you described as the black hole effect sucking in is very very real and it shows itself a lot of different ways so it will show itself on human level like being a person is, it works one like the emotional level so it's gonna pull u when it's cool you down. You're gonna find more that like thats kinda the nature of it and so yeah right end

35:39 so many of the narratives which we are seeing like in there two sides and don't get me wrong a lot of the narrative can be looked at. Part of the modus operandi is every narrative can be looked out on the light side in the shadow side and so, whenever we associate with particular side of story built into it is the positive side of it were gonna see that like very very clearly And then decide which only make sense when the inverse is gonna be in the shadow and then the person who sees.

36:16 Think about like southern hemisphere northern hemisphere to the toilet water the toilet bowl goes in a different direction i look at that emotionally like someone emotionally is gonna be the other side of this story and they're gonna see the light on the other side. End it sucks you in and it goes round and round around its revolution that's why it's called a revolution because it's a circle it was rounded rounded round school never ending story, When you are involved in it and if you're the guy who spin in the basketball like you know you go back to harlem globetrotters, think of a guy who spinning the ball there some microorganism that's living on the ball is what the hell is going on and then you got curly and he spit in his got the whole world this hands.

36:58 if we can see that when the side which is creating these events that there are different levels which those are probably experience yet they're all tied. We as ourselves we also have the ability to step in and out of a different creation if you will, i mean this is what it gets too alright now understand how it works what do we gonna deal with knowledge rights That's something that i really am kind of. Thinking about a lot lately because if these mechanisms work even on a small scale it magic works why not use it for good or four are you wanna use it ourselves and that's when, a portion of this audience gets very skeptical they get very guarded against this kinda stuff i think its religious residue but the tools themselves like consider to be somewhat

37:50 arbitrary or neutral at least and if they're being used for bad how are we going to beat the system other than to use the same tools for good i just don't understand how you gonna do it without. Learning about the tools in depth and counteracting them somehow even if its just on a small micro scale your own life following astrological calendars looking at your own birth chart and finding your windows for opportunity, That all makes you more powerful and if your force for good we could use some powerful forces for good out there i don't think it's necessarily. Bad or pride full to try to use the same tools just because the leader using them against us now, well you brought up so many good points i would respond to a mall helping i hope i can share

38:39 First thing is magic in itself is a charge to work. Yes you know that immediately is gonna divide and so the way i think about it i'll go back to middle world upper world of heavens and lower world hell's or beneath us, So those are no matter how you look at it your gonna find a way that its real weather those stars and planets in we're talking about molecules or whether were saying like you know if there is realms in the monograms are subconscious and neocortex you know there's always different parallels to that this is what it is what we call magic is the ability, influence the middle by working on the bottom of working with the top.

39:20 That's all it is and you're absolutely right there infinite ways which is being done you know we do it every time you communicate with someone we know that. 90 percent of all communication assuming it's face to face is non verbal. It's all these other things like that's going into the underworld that's magic you go back two thousand years ago numbers were magic, they were hidden and they were like you know if you are in the pathology mystery school and a few let out the secret you would be executed every six greater now knows that a square plus b squared equals c squared like this stuff sucks so we're late in it all the time

39:59 To your point the way i see it we're coming to a point where is becoming more and more evident that yes this is the nature of this environment which we are residing in. The second thing is that its becoming more evidence that it's our time to start, Using the tools which come with being in this environment and i think that is a little bit more personal and i think people are rightfully. Guarded when it comes to like how that should be done because i do think thats a personal thing i think its all the same but each person expresses differently my personal opinion is, the fire ratio makes sense to me

40:50 I know what's true mathematically speaking and the ratio shows itself. Naturally in the five pointed star and it also shows itself because of that in the pentagram this is why such a charge symbol white so tied into magical ritual was because it is imbued ratio. In that shape and then the platonic solid that corresponds with it is the dodecahedron And so when you understand that from a numerical level there is no emotional charge like good or bad and the new miracle level basically just. Shows the golden ratio is the only point where the numbers smaller are in perfect harmony with the numbers larger relative to lake the middle point that may not make sense but i just want explain like this isn't like

41:47 Subjective mumbo jumbo like there's mathematics this is what it is so tapping into that you know that to me is the highest and most universal symbol and so for me whenever i could possibly use it. I try to use it so if its art i lay everything out according to that ratio or percentage of just thinking about the active thinking about it gets my head, I think about that sometimes if i am going into a situation which i don't really know how to approach like i just think about that michael let me just go and find ratio it's kinda like a personal way of how i go in overworld underworld.

42:33 Can i tell you a strange interesting specific stories relates to working with it yes please alright so this is at best science see you know i say that like the quotation mark so this is like five six years ago and i'm really getting into. Using fire ratio in a regular and fluid way away that didn't seem forced And so i used to have this office in my house and there was a hibiscus tree and i had it for let's say five years maybe six feet tall, end because i had such a long time i was knowledgeable with its normal flowering or blossoming schedule like twice a year would blossom i get one or two flowers always cool you know something good is happening whatever.

43:23 Whatever made that occurred like i'm sitting in it right now that's a universally accepted growth sign so i was reading and really exploring playing with this idea of the ratio. And, I just had this idea that if every morning for just like ten seconds i'm gonna go and just envision a dodecahedron so thats platonic solid in the has very unique geometrical principles which are you need to eat the other four solids like there's something unique about this and it shape corresponds directly to the ratio because it's got a pentagram in it so what is the symbol of the fire which is the symbol of connectivity of our material world which you know the greeks would call associate with the ether where everything resided or connected.

44:18 So i have the symbol of my kid just think that simple you know i don't have to think anything else i'm just gonna go and allow the natural order that designed everything else to go in design that but im playing this game on participating. And so everyday for like two and a half weeks i went for like anywhere from five seconds to admit it just hold that image in my mind projecting into the soil of this tree which i kinda new, And so after like two or three weeks you know nothing happened in like i got bored with it and go into whatever the next thing i'm gonna go and investigate this was probably late towards the end of december. And january first flower came outside some of god no you know what i'm still thinking that because my mind so rash on like you know its gotta blue but whatever,

45:08 It went for twenty one days straight blossoming every single day. And so for me personally that was my confirmation, add there is something very tangible to working this way at least approaching material reality that way i don't suggest that anyone take my word for that i'm like you know if anything like go and play with this and see what happens because there are games being played when you and if u are not doing something to counter it. It's certainly residing in your subconscious and i think that is a great example too because i think

45:51 Intention and interplay with nature there's a lot of data there to suggest that certain things work doctor dean rayden put out a book called real magic that gets into some studies have been done and they did one where they had highly skilled monks blast water, and then they use that water too water some plants and then i had a control group what the end of the study There were measurable chemical differences in the plants that had blessed water and this wasn't even blessing the plants themselves. So, I mean that's gotta be answered you know someone wants to be scientifically minded great go ahead tell me what that was because if you trust the scientific method You got explain this and i don't know some people just wanna deny that type of data but i think there is a lot of meat on the bones when it comes to human

46:43 Intention and what goes on in your mind and what can manifest the nature is a good sandbox to play with that kind of stuff i mean it really is with all ideas sometimes you get a mental craving for french fries and with enough conscious attention effort, that mental craving will manifest some actual french fries if you go through the drive-through so its kinda like. An idea is always seated in the non physical realm weather above or below you turned it influencing reality from the substrate in our emails which i like to let but You know it has to come there first and so if it all starts in the mind or on the mental plane of the imagination, we best be working with that more often strengthening for ourselves stop outsourcing our imaginative realm to netflix and that kind of thing. I mean all that stuff weekends are ability to manifest even hold an idea in our minds and i just think thats a powerful example that touches on a lot of things that are useful

47:43 I couldn't agree with you more and i think that's part of what i was suggesting before is like we're coming to a point where it's becoming so evident, that there's an adversary at every corner in the that's not healthy way to approach reality. And What happens when you realize like you know it's in the air and it's in the water at you know they're spraying the air there putting stuff in the water they able to utilize flickering rates on your lcd screen to connect with your nervous system just by being in front of a computer like its everywhere around lake. You gonna have to come to a point say i'm either gonna cut off from all this stuff not at that point or you have to come up with a very very

48:26 clear understanding of how you're going to counter this at a way that you have complete control love, when your right and thats i think unique for each person and we all probably exist in different levels of the continuum but it's a lot of ways. That seems to be the only solution to so many of these things which are external because its all pointing to like you gotta figure out something internal which is greater than the narrative of the external which goes into this idea of belief like we have been taught and we've learned this is a very important skill, skepticism and the rational mind but the rational mind has a limitation. Is it limitation on the rational mind the rational mind can only take you so far

49:17 the ancients called this a lower mind and then there was something they call the higher mind that was intuitive mind if you will. They always stressed that you are not supposed to go into the intuitive mine until you develop the rational because if you go straight to the intuitive mind and he don't have developed rational mind within like, You can just be let everywhere you not gonna be able to separate your intuitive knowledge versus subconscious fears and desires you know you need to be able to have that rationality in that strength, before we want to go in there but once u get to that point what the edge of the rational barrier is it jumping off. And that jump office belief

49:59 And that's like the difference between someone who takes a sugar pill and they cure themselves from someone who is like oh that's a sugar pill i can't take that but here give me this petroleum based pharmaceutical. You know i know thats gonna go and take it from me i mean there comes a point where it serves you to be able to be that powerful in belief and there's a phrase which kinda has a negative connotation but it indicates the power of belief, anything free is a true believer in the true believer we're seeing a lot of it right now people who are so tired to a particular narrative or movement.

50:40 There's so tired that bad is all they're able to see and i'm not saying this anyone's right or wrong what have you i'm saying that is the definition of a true believer and historically speaking. People who are true believers, i'm giving example in a moment people who are true believers are able to do things which non true believers. Can do or the true believers have special powers and the best way of thinking about this is like going back to lake warriors, are you familiar with the story of the establishment of the assassins a little bit but definitely give us that contacts

51:22 Show i'm not gonna have the names but the bottom line is there's a guy and he was in the middle east and he was building this amazing special forces squad more or less. This is where we get the word assassin from and so supposedly what happened as a candidate is identified any invited to go to this like luxurious palace out in the wilderness and while he's there he's ghost with something with strong psychotropic properties you know they give us some mushroom they give him something which is, really strong dose.

52:00 And during this time i don't know if you fall asleep or what have you but anyway they bring him out of there into this land of milk and honey in. Beautiful women is told all of these amazing stuff and then eventually he falls asleep when he's brought back to where he originally came in and we comes to his told that he had a dream, and they ask what happened in the stream and you're like you were spoken to by god, add god wants you to come here now and you have been chosen to be a member of our select group of assassins. And these guys because they believe with every ounce there being that they had had this experience. And they did want to start level having experience but there's someone who constructed it for me and channel that belief in these guys became like unbelievable warriors

52:51 Other examples could be thought of a little bit differently but like what is your car viking would bring into battling human beings were able to tap it into something which elevated them above everyone else on the battlefield. That's the power of belief in healthy way you can do something we see all these true believers where did go back to this point where you're at the rational mind and you gonna come to this level of like you know, Am i really able to do this in reality am i making flowers appear out of a bush but it's not me i'm just using the technique which makes sense to me. You come and believe that at some point you see something which is gonna be so undeniable that,

53:39 You cross that castle and you go to the other side. I think that's what we're seeing happening in i think there is an encouragement there's a shitty way to bring someone over which is what i described with that assassin story not so you know that even though quote unquote science behind mk ultra being able to go and turn someone into like super human whatever turned into Play that capability is opening up and i can call and it's for those who are willing to explore in like you like yeah i'm gonna go and treat this with the scientific mind like i would be skeptical but also recognizing that this is something which seems to be a major tool in navigating this particular time reality.

54:26 Yes i like all that and it just makes me think about that's the reason why. Mystery schools in skull and bones that's why they have these simulated trauma initiations because to your physiology or your subconscious israel so who cares and they just initiate those things Get you to that true believer level or whatever there are no i don't know the depth of exactly what they're doing but it speaks to the same motif of simulating and i definitely like, the expression of mk ultra being like mass initiation without their knowledge into this same type of thing. Yeah it is all fascinating when you have all this context for it man well this has just been

55:11 A lot of fun and you know i asked this at my last guest to but having you just do this amazing starboard session for me, no which will have to talk about before we go. And you know so much about cycles and ritual i'm curious if you ever applied the stuff to your own life or if you have any advice for people who want to examine maybe their own birth chart and find the best windows of opportunity based on the current planetary cycles for them? I mean, how can we use these cycles for good. Do you have any insight into that as it relates to cycles? Certainly i mean the most basic way is just becoming aware of your immediate surroundings of like your own sunrise and sunset

55:58 Like literally just be aware of that and noticing it you know if you get up and see it if you can see the time that does something your beginning to. Align yourself to something greater because when you start going way far out there immediately without having a grounded into like you know your actual living its little bit too subtle, add then i would suggest start just becoming aware of the moon no no whatever the moon is whatever the moon is it holds great influence you know when its full and when it's new if you want to go in deeper there many many ways which people like get into the mood. Whether that's astrological or another other like other movie modalities but they're all basically saying it's like you know it's most intense for a full moon, edit an expression of what that moon cycle is about

56:48 usually tying in a specific intention or goal of what you wish to do during that next twenty nine days cycle. End the modality which you're going to tie it with one doubt we have a flavor for that mood you know, And there's certain attributes of it and if you could tie in a intention that is also similar to what the flavor of that moon is this is what they do it like you know your lining up with different sort of energy stacking it, you're lining it up so that's very very easy way of aligning your life.

57:29 Beginning with the heaven select a new moon is when you do something like the full moon is when you recognize what u been doing so far in that lunar cycle obviously the sun and birthday. Things like mercury retrograde that doesn't necessarily speak to me but i know it does the other people and make you know people can begin following like smaller cycles like that mercury has a hundred eighty eight days is it cycle around the sun and just becoming aware of that going by what speaks to you i think thats really whats gonna guide everyone because. Once you become open to the fact that there are greater cycles and when you're connected something greater is even a grounding in that because it's no more than all of that responsibilities on your shoulders and this also can tie into like any other larger philosophical spiritual religious beliefs too. I think what time were finding our own way to make sense to us

58:30 i think that's why is it just use a little bit of intuition and focus on strengthening that ability and then the rest will fall into place perhaps one step at a time, i think maybe thats probably at least how i would suggest because things are changing so fast even more so like being grounded. And recognizing what happens when you get caught up too much in the stories because they are fun and the news is fine then like figure out all the demons is kinda interesting it scratches a certain age but then not. You know which living life at this time understanding everything that's going on because many many things are being created right now as well

59:16 Yeah and let's plug your starboard sessions a little bit more because i really didn't know exactly what to expect until i saw it. Of course this is like an astrological reading but i really think the one that you did for me, is amazing in the visual aspect of the atmosphere make it really meditative and it feels like I now have a 90 minute documentary on me. And I'm gonna refer to this all the time when my worst tendencies start to come out, I can already tell this is gonna be a really useful tool for me and I think that they also make amazing gifts for the holidays. I guess talk to us a little bit about these sessions and how people can get one of their own?

59:57 i appreciate the opportunity to gift for the holidays that's good so starboard session is it's a personal ceremony and its revealing of ones. shadow side from an astrological perspective and it's told in a poetic nature. It is all about the experience it's all about honoring from like a less personal level of the different types of energy that make up your experience, and I treated very much as also a teaching tool was well so

1:00:37 I videotape it if we can't do in person and then i send the file and explain. All of the different pieces of the natal chart or location of the planets when someone's born and it's really a threshold walking over line to be able to understand yourself from very different level. And it really pleases me when you describe how u plan on using it because that certainly the intention And i go about each chart with the same focus and technique is ideal like studying the collective narrative that's unfolding. Well i really love it i had a lot of astrological readings over time, add this has been definitely my favorite with the best takeaway of course what does video and i think people should check out i mean

1:01:35 A lot of times people come here guess wise to plug a book and of course you're not selling any books so i feel like this is something definitely that people should. Think about getting me there's a lot arbitrary gifts you can get for the holidays and this is something super personal and really useful in a person's life some, who does for doing those and put that together it's a really great framing reading a birth chart And i guess before we go i know of course your up youtube is sasquatana alchemy as well as your instagram is there anything else to mention the upcoming projects you want to throw out their.

1:02:15 What got some things which i'm working on right now but not ready to discuss those but people can also go to susquehanna alchemy and so that's where you'll find really everything you find all the videos there more videos than your friend on youtube. Lots and lots of info graphics and snapshots or screenshots from the video so you can see this stuff, look at it closely you could also find more information starboard session there in a book one of those are copies of The rights of the fortieth parallel which is a guidebook outlining the most sacred locations on the susquehanna river based upon what the geology shows. And so full maps and how to get there and what they mean in how do you use it, add definitely go to instagram i just started doing that like maybe three weeks ago when i found it to be perfect fit for. How to share this information because its old visual and

1:03:11 Also show a lot of my art on there as well. So I've been having a lot of fun with that so if anyone wishes to learn more or Support this work definitely follow me there awesome Well, Mr. Wan always a pleasure I'm just really impressed with the competency you have for such slippery material Really appreciate you being here keep up the good work man Thank You thank you thank you thank you i like The opportunity of being able to just like go down all these different paths your great person to kind of play with these ideas with so excellent I just try to keep up but thank you and do take care yourself

1:03:48 And on the eighth day of Christmas, The Carlwood gave to thee Michael Wan ladies and gentlemen. Yes! Definitely one of my favorite new guests of 2018 and we covered such specific and in-depth stuff last time that it was nice to pick his brain about the broader picture and what these little examples actually mean what it says about the gears of reality. And yes, we could consider this another magic show in a long list but it's also a conspiracy show as much as it is anything else because these are the ways in which the elite work. This is basically an expose on some of their most used tools and, as I mentioned on the positive side his starboard sessions are really cool! It was funny to hear him laugh when I said that they make great gifts for the holidays because I think we're both a little marketing and promotion-averse

1:04:47 But I'll go ahead and be the lame guy for his sake because i want to help, and i want to see him succeed. And i do mean what i say when i say that i can't think of a much better gift to give someone Regardless what a show and i think it fits with so much of what we've been talking about lately when i fold in the stuff that chris noel talked about earlier in the year which by the way gonna be hearing from him in december too. But chris found a lot of sinks and energy revolving around the occultation of regulus and next time happens is october first two thousand forty four,

1:05:23 So it stands to reason that we might see some star magic in the final months of 2044 leading into the singularity year of 2045. That is going to be a really interesting time frame. 27 more years, if I live to see that i'll be exactly 60 and I think I will live to see it why would I have this sort of career path and then exit the theater before the last scene in the movie? It's sort of weird to think about all the twists and turns of the first 33 years and then when I think about what I want to be doing 27 years from now

1:06:00 It's just this, exactly this. But it is very unlikely given how often things do change I hope your humble stoner host will still be on the higher side chats as a senior citizen but only time will tell And if you're a little confused most of that 2045 singularity talk was in today's Plus Show as part of the conversation about The 100-Year Cycle from Eniach to The Singularity a massive multi-generational technological ritual, and a big piece of Michael Wan's work. You can find videos that talk about it on his YouTube if you missed the Plus show We also talked about the merging of the digital with the physical, The Simulation at the End of the World Mount Ecclesia And what conversation is complete without talking about Bill and Ted and Neo

1:06:57 So as always, if you do like the first hour I put out there for ya please sign up for the full two-hour shows at TheHigherSideChatsPlus.com I also just wanted to throw it out there that if you go back to the early 2018 show i did with Gordon Magic Macon White he talked about the Harvest Festival shooting as a ritual too. Call up the gods and the timing of Amuamua coincided with what you might consider a possible answer well we had this Thousand Oaks shooting and Michael kept saying 10,000 oaks but that's alright I'm pretty sure it's thousand oaks. But there is a bit of a parallel where we have this announcement that there are several more Amua-Mua like objects spotted now so you have the first big ritual last year and then a space scout arrives you have the more recent shooting which is heavily connected to the first and then we have a bunch of objects coming in or at least announced a few days after that

1:07:58 It's a curious thing. I can't be sure that it is related, but i like the way Mike presented the gears and pulleys of the underlying system and how reality is affected by manipulations of the substrate And this would be in the realm of possibilities when you're dissecting the kinds of things they do But magic and science spirits and aliens These things are closer in my mind than they ever have been lately. If you did like Michael's appearance, definitely plug him in on Instagram! He mentioned that you can find him there at Susquehanna Alchemy

1:08:38 And I might as well say, find me on Instagram too under higher side chats. It is a thing that i wasn't going to use at all Sam Tripoli was like dude you got to at least get your name before someone else steals it and that was a good point but its finally starting to click how it is used and uh...I guess im liking it a little more than the other offerings on the social media table. I don't want Facebook dammit! Im an instagram man If you know where that's from, kudos to you. It's really just a hijacking of a movie quote that somehow emerged from the depths of my consciousness but who cares? In other news, you might remember an interview I did with Neil Kramer and Niles Heckman

1:09:23 Well, Niles actually had me on his podcast An Infinite Path which you can find at aninfinitepath.com if you want to hear me on the other side of the mic where I struggle but i'm trying Also we need a joint session for this month it can't be the 25th that's Christmas! I think we're going to go with the 20th again so 7 p.m on the 20th It is Thursday this month if you want to get in on the next one. Of course, it's free to catch live free to call in and then it is archived as a plus member bonus And I think I have a new end of the year traditional bonus that I'm going to start for plus people But I'm just not sure where and when it's going to happen It might be more in January. I just kind of thought of it In fact, it was actually my wife's idea so you might have her to thank or to blame We don't know it isn't done yet

1:10:20 but I'm just not sure what's left of this month is enough time considering everything that is in the typical holiday commitment mix, but it's going to be fun. And outside of that, I will say that the next THC will be pretty unexpected and a lot of people might end up skipping it because it is a little... graphic? Maybe is the term to use we don't say magic a single time But we do say penis probably more than any other word and I will just let you try to code that in the meantime. We'll see how it all plays out, and that's it for me today Your move power pyramid players cultural narrative crafters and sorcerers of the substrate! We're on to ya And its your fucking move This is important hear what I said Im trying to tell you

1:11:17 It's not paranoia, not in my head. It's just the hard truth Knocked on your door while I still can To ask you cuz' I know your head is still in the sand Don't be sheep till ya slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did you get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know we're arc- Can't you just admit, We're screwed I'm gonna tell ya this anyway It's a scary dark world Scarier every day Be okay! Can't you see that we're su- You sit and wish But we don't have a choice It seems we're stuck here But you can find nose to drown out the noise

1:12:33 Now use that altar, end up your magic game And listen to THC you know You go with the entities if you ever see emfo Don't be sheep till ya slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did you get the memo? Can't you say that we're so screwed? Don't you know we're our kung fu? Can't you just admit, we're screwed I'm gonna tell ya this anyway It's a scary dark world I'm scared everyday I want to be okay Can't you see that we're so- eeeh eeh eh

1:13:53 Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did ya get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know we are kung fu? Can't you just admit we're screwed I'm gonna tell you this anyway It's a scary dark world Something scarier every day Can't you see that we're still in love?