Topic: Space Program

Space Program comes up in 45 chapters across 32 episodes of The Higherside Chats Free Show, from May 2013 to April 2026.

May 2013 April 2026

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THC Book Report | Too Many Secrets: Exposing The Underground Worlds
• 7:14 - 9:30

THC Book Report | Too Many Secrets: Exposing The Underground Worlds

Anna Paulina Luna and Carrie Cassidy Reactions to Wilcock

Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, chair of the Capitol's Federal Secrets Group, publicly acknowledged David Wilcock's death on social media, referencing biblical verses and the Book of Enoch. Meanwhile, Carrie Cassidy of Project Camelot has disputed the death report, claiming Wilcock and other scientists have been recruited into a "brain drain" for a secret space program. These conflicting narratives highlight the divide within the conspiracy community regarding the fate of high-profile figures.

Jay Weidner | The Cross Of Hendaye, Plasma Portals, & The Season of Catastrophe
• 41:39 - 45:43

Jay Weidner | The Cross Of Hendaye, Plasma Portals, & The Season of Catastrophe

Freemasonic Schisms and the Secret Space Program

Weidner discusses a 1700s schism in Freemasonry between true alchemists and the "Illuminati" group that sought global control. He suggests that the Secret Space Program was initiated in the late 1950s as an "escape hatch" for the elite to flee Earth before the next solar event. The segment also notes Adolf Hitler's specific interest in the town of Hendaye and the linguistic wordplay connecting "Hendaye" to "End Day."

Jay Weidner | The Cross Of Hendaye, Plasma Portals, & The Season of Catastrophe
• 1:00:02 - 1:05:27

Jay Weidner | The Cross Of Hendaye, Plasma Portals, & The Season of Catastrophe

Gaia TV Conflict and the Corey Goode Lawsuit

Jay Weidner provides his perspective on the fallout at Gaia TV involving Corey Goode and David Wilcock. He describes the origins of the "Cosmic Disclosure" show and his eventual realization that Goode's claims about the Secret Space Program were fraudulent. Weidner details the subsequent legal battles, including a $5 million lawsuit filed against him by Goode and the ongoing litigation between Gaia TV and Goode.

Bob Frissell | The Ascension Superwave, Cabal Capture, & The Cosmic Play
• 10:19 - 13:28

Bob Frissell | The Ascension Superwave, Cabal Capture, & The Cosmic Play

Galactic Superwave, Vibratory Rates and Soul Evolution

The Galactic Superwave is described as an infusion of higher-dimensional energy that raises the vibratory rate of the planet and its inhabitants. This process is framed within a "soul school" model where humans work through multiple lifetimes to evolve their core being. The discussion addresses skepticism regarding the timing of these cycles, emphasizing that individual spiritual upgrades carry over into future incarnations.

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Bob Frissell | The Ascension Superwave, Cabal Capture, & The Cosmic Play
• 46:50 - 50:09

Bob Frissell | The Ascension Superwave, Cabal Capture, & The Cosmic Play

Bill Cooper, Vladimir Terziski and the Secret Space Program

The conversation shifts to the research of Bill Cooper and Vladimir Terziski regarding government involvement with alien races. Terziski's claims about a German secret space program and underground bases in Antarctica, specifically Neuschwanland, are highlighted. Frizzell notes that while these figures were once dismissed as "kooks" at UFO conferences, much of their information regarding reverse-engineered technology has since been corroborated.

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Bob Frissell | The Ascension Superwave, Cabal Capture, & The Cosmic Play
• 1:00:57 - 1:03:46

Bob Frissell | The Ascension Superwave, Cabal Capture, & The Cosmic Play

Pyramids as Consciousness Tools, David Wilcock and 20-and-Back

Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview, suggesting that the Great Pyramids may have been tools for projecting the astral body rather than mechanical power generators. He expresses skepticism regarding the "20-and-back" secret space program narratives associated with David Wilcock. Carlwood notes that while he appreciates the epic nature of these stories, he remains critical of certain whistleblowers in that milieu.

Ashton Forbes | The MH370 Teleportation/Abduction Case, Orb Footage Analysis, & The Deeper Story
• 1:05:16 - 1:08:03

Ashton Forbes | The MH370 Teleportation/Abduction Case, Orb Footage Analysis, & The Deeper Story

Alternative Theories on Hostages and Secret Space Programs

The host expresses skepticism regarding the "rescue mission" narrative, questioning why the military would keep passengers hostage for years to hide the technology. He suggests alternative possibilities, such as the involvement of a "breakaway civilization" or a secret brotherhood with exotic technology, similar to the stories of T. Townsend Brown. He also considers the possibility of a "Philadelphia Experiment 2.0" or a direct abduction by non-human intelligence.

Richard Dolan | The Ufology Field, Technocratic Narrative Control, & Hybrid Entity Integration
• 37:16 - 43:01

Richard Dolan | The Ufology Field, Technocratic Narrative Control, & Hybrid Entity Integration

T. Townsend Brown and Breakaway Civilization Technology

Dolan details the history of T. Townsend Brown, a pioneer in electro-gravitics whose work on anti-gravity propulsion went classified in the 1950s. The segment explores the "Breakaway Civilization" theory, suggesting a secret group has maintained advanced technology and infrastructure separate from the public world. This infrastructure potentially includes clandestine underground bases and off-world capabilities developed through black-budget military projects.

Dave Zed & Co. | Secret Science, Dark Web Findings, & The Black Goo
• 1:36 - 3:29

Dave Zed & Co. | Secret Science, Dark Web Findings, & The Black Goo

Dave Zed and Riel Wilmont Return to Generation Z Research

Greg Carlwood welcomes Dave Zed and Riel Wilmont back to the program to discuss their latest research under the Generation Z moniker. The introduction references previous discussions involving secret space programs, multidimensional entities, and dark web documents. Dave Zed expresses his honor to return after a year and a half, while Riel Wilmont joins the conversation to provide deeper insight into their collaborative video content and Patreon findings.

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Chris Knowles | Post-Gnosis, The Rude Awokening, & The Siren’s Shepard Sacrifices
• 39:53 - 43:30

Chris Knowles | Post-Gnosis, The Rude Awokening, & The Siren’s Shepard Sacrifices

Technocracy Hoaxes and the Recycled Miracles of Elon Musk

Elon Musk's ventures, including Neuralink and the space program, are characterized as "hoaxes" designed to keep the technocratic machine running. Chris Knowles points out that "technological miracles" like brain implants have been recycled in the media for 40 years without significant realization. He argues that these narratives serve as a "carrot" to prevent people from questioning the fundamental fakeness of the technocratic system.

Bart Sibrel | The Moon Landing Fraud, Apollo Mission Inconsistencies, & NASA Lies
• 28:15 - 31:44

Bart Sibrel | The Moon Landing Fraud, Apollo Mission Inconsistencies, & NASA Lies

Secret Space Programs, Aliens and Psychological Operations

Sibrell addresses the theory of a secret space program using reverse-engineered technology from the Roswell crash, dismissing it as a government psychological operation. He argues that the government encourages belief in aliens to misdirect intellectual skeptics who recognize the moon landings were filmed in a studio. Sibrell expresses his belief that there are physical limits to space travel and that extraterrestrial life is a deception.

Richard Dolan | Global Totalitarianism, Technocracy, & The Alien Agendas
• 1:26:45 - 1:31:00

Richard Dolan | Global Totalitarianism, Technocracy, & The Alien Agendas

Konstantin Tsiolkovsky and the Occult Roots of Soviet Space Travel

Greg Carlwood discusses the esoteric and occult interests of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, a founding father of the Soviet space program. Tsiolkovsky believed in a universe filled with "ethereal" immortal beings who send messages to humans through heavenly signs. This "Russian Cosmism" suggests that the pioneers of rocketry, much like Jack Parsons in the United States, were often driven by a magical or spiritual understanding of science and technology.

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Wal Thornhill | The Electric Universe, The SAFIRE Project, & Plasma
• 1:14:10 - 1:18:39

Wal Thornhill | The Electric Universe, The SAFIRE Project, & Plasma

Apollo Mission Skepticism, Mr. Spaceman Outro

Greg Carlwood reflects on his disagreement with Wal Thornhill regarding the Apollo moon landings, suggesting that incorrect scientific models might point toward a secret space program. The episode concludes with a summary of the guest's points and a musical outro featuring a cover of "Mr. Spaceman" by The Byrds. Carlwood signs off by challenging "stubborn scientists" and "industrialized education institutions."

William Brown | Quantum Biology, Viruses, Panspermia, & Alien Engineered DNA
• 47:00 - 51:35

William Brown | Quantum Biology, Viruses, Panspermia, & Alien Engineered DNA

Directed Evolution via Viral Software Packets

The conversation explores the possibility that advanced extraterrestrial civilizations use viruses as "software packets" to direct the evolution of species on other planets. This method of "biological terraforming" is presented as a more efficient alternative to physical interstellar travel, allowing for the remote engineering of intelligent life.

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Jordan Sather | Q Anon, Celebrity Suicides, Space Force, & The Deep State War
• 0:13 - 4:23

Jordan Sather | Q Anon, Celebrity Suicides, Space Force, & The Deep State War

Jordan Sather, QAnon and Secret Space Program Research

Jordan Sather, creator of the YouTube channel Destroying the Illusion, joins the program to discuss the QAnon phenomenon and the battle against the deep state. The introduction explores Sather's background in researching health, wellness, and the secret space program while wearing a red MAGA hat. Initial skepticism regarding the Q material is addressed alongside curious family connections involving Donald Trump's uncle, John Trump, and Nikola Tesla's materials at MIT.

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Dr. Michael Salla | Antarctica’s Hidden History, Nazi UFOs, & Inner Earth Extraterrestrials
• 0:13 - 3:49

Dr. Michael Salla | Antarctica’s Hidden History, Nazi UFOs, & Inner Earth Extraterrestrials

Antarctica's Hidden History, Secret Space Programs, and Dr. Michael Sala

Greg Carlwood introduces Dr. Michael Sala, a pioneer in exopolitics and author of Antarctica's Hidden History: Corporate Foundations of Secret Space Programs. The discussion frames Antarctica as a massive landmass the size of the United States and Mexico, suggesting it is far more than a desolate ice block. High-profile visits by figures like John Kerry, Buzz Aldrin, and the Patriarch of Russia are cited as evidence of the continent's strategic and hidden importance.

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Dr. Michael Salla | Antarctica’s Hidden History, Nazi UFOs, & Inner Earth Extraterrestrials
• 42:33 - 46:28

Dr. Michael Salla | Antarctica’s Hidden History, Nazi UFOs, & Inner Earth Extraterrestrials

Corey Goode, William Tompkins, and Age Regression Technology

Whistleblowers Corey Goode and William Tompkins provide testimonies regarding the "20-and-back" program, where participants serve in space and are then age-regressed to their original entry point. While skeptical, some point to emerging "white world" scientific studies on cellular regression as evidence that such technology has existed in covert programs for decades. Supporting testimony from NASA operator Clark McClelland and Bulgarian engineer Vladimir Terzinski is used to bolster these claims.

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Walter Bosley | Trump, Tesla, Secret Spaceships, & NYMZA
• 0:05 - 3:03

Walter Bosley | Trump, Tesla, Secret Spaceships, & NYMZA

Walter Bosley, Breakaway Civilizations and Secret Space Programs

Researcher Walter Bosley returns to discuss the history of suppressed technology and the concept of a breakaway civilization. The introduction reviews previous discussions regarding the Nimza, a group of Prussian nationalists, and the Sonora Aero Club's 19th-century flying machines. New developments suggest these underground networks may have historical ties to the family of the current U.S. President.

Clif High | Web Bot Predictions: Antarctica, Bitcoin, & Woo
• 50:35 - 52:51

Clif High | Web Bot Predictions: Antarctica, Bitcoin, & Woo

Secret Space Program and Military Ignorance

High asserts the existence of a secret space program, referencing hacker Gary McKinnon's findings regarding non-terrestrial officers. He notes the frequent sightings of triangular craft and argues that if the military is not responsible for them, the nation is in a vulnerable position. The lack of public disclosure regarding these technologies is described as a source of frustration for citizens.

Nick Redfern | Secret Societies, Strange Beings, & Hidden Codes
• 1:00:40 - 1:03:59

Nick Redfern | Secret Societies, Strange Beings, & Hidden Codes

THC+ Membership, Cattle Mutilations and Secret Space Program

The episode concludes with a promotion for the THC+ membership program, detailing the topics covered in the second hour of the interview. These include the Hexham Heads, cattle mutilations as ritual activity, and the Secret Space Program. The host thanks the subscribers for their support and signs off with a custom song about secret societies and the daily grind of the working class.