Thursday, 28 June 2018

Jordan Sather | Q Anon, Celebrity Suicides, Space Force, & The Deep State War

A deep dive into the shadow civil war reveals how military insiders and cryptic digital breadcrumbs are reshaping the fight against global institutional corruption.

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By The Higherside Chats Free Show | 1h 12m listen | 19 chapters
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About this episode

Jordan Sather, creator of the YouTube channel Destroying the Illusion, details the emergence of the QAnon phenomenon and a purported shadow civil war within the United States government. Sather argues that a White Hat Alliance of military and intelligence insiders recruited Donald Trump to dismantle a global deep state, citing the 2016 election as a counter-operation against a rigged establishment. The discussion connects the WikiLeaks release of John Podesta’s emails to a broader effort to expose institutional corruption and initiate a changing of the guard.

Sather presents evidence for the legitimacy of the Q operation, including synchronized social media posts from the Department of Defense and the Trump administration. The narrative posits that Special Counsel Robert Mueller may be a secret ally using the Russia investigation to mask a massive legal offensive involving 35,000 sealed indictments. These filings are linked to the arrests of Keith Raniere and Allison Mack in the NXIVM case, as well as a wave of CEO resignations from Google, Starbucks, and Nickelodeon. Sather also examines the Tucson Veterans on Patrol discovery at a Cemex site, alleging that mainstream media suppressed evidence of human trafficking tunnels to protect Clinton Foundation donors.

Recent high-profile deaths of Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain are analyzed as potential coded assassinations rather than suicides, with Sather highlighting the recurring symbolism of the red scarf. The conversation explores the influence of the CIA on modern feminism through figures like Gloria Steinem and the hidden messages in Dave Chappelle’s Netflix specials. Sather emphasizes that the cryptic nature of Q is designed to foster human sovereignty and grassroots investigation rather than a savior complex.


CHAPTER 01 / 19 Discussion

Jordan Sather, QAnon and Secret Space Program Research

Jordan Sather, creator of the YouTube channel Destroying the Illusion, joins the program to discuss the QAnon phenomenon and the battle against the deep state. The introduction explores Sather's background in researching health, wellness, and the secret space program while wearing a red MAGA hat. Initial skepticism regarding the Q material is addressed alongside curious family connections involving Donald Trump's uncle, John Trump, and Nikola Tesla's materials at MIT.

jordan sather· qanon· destroying the illusion· secret space program· donald trump

00:13 The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan There clearly may be something there beyond the realm of man Until we've thoroughly tested every last closed chested view You'll find the more you think you know, less you really do Where would we be without THC? We know the lying to us just don't know to what degree. Where would we be without THC? The highest side, Chad Shore. Greg Carlwood and company

01:01 All right, Hiresite Chatters. If you ask me the capstone cabal of the shadowy power pyramid is not a group that leaves much to chance They've invested heavily in the de-evolution of man and the degradation of our mental faculties through their carefully crafted education system They've suppressed free energy and electrogravitic crafts in exchange for systems built on poisonous yet profitable materials And they stifle and control the lives of the people with their debt based system of rule They so hawkishly perch above Dig a bit deeper and you'll find some heavily researched claims that nearly all US presidents fall from the same family tree, along with many household names in media and entertainment forming a terrifying tapestry of bad actors if you will. And while my cynical self is inclined to side with the age old phrase and pattern that Presidents are selected not elected and the game will carry on as it has I can't completely count out the growing perspective in the conspiracy community

01:59 Related to the network or not, Donald Trump might represent a changing of the guard. The emergence of a new network of white hat power players and maybe even an alignment with non-terrestrial beings that all just might culminate in eradication of long standing child trafficking networks, roll out technologies derived from secret occult physics, and removal our yokes of oppression we've worn for so long Again, I'm cynical but a certain 4chan poster known as QAnon has been stirring the pot with cryptic messages since the election weaving a narrative that aims to clarify the game behind the game and i think it's high time we explore it and stand by our policy of no conspiracy left behind.

02:40 To do this, we got one of the best breaker-downers of the cube material that the internet has to offer. His name is Jordan Sather and he runs the popular website and YouTube channel Destroying The Illusion or should we say Destroying The Illusion 2.0 as Jordan has also recently had YouTube make it impossible to use his channel And he has since rebuilt a second one Jordan is known for his methodical and action-packed whiteboard breakdowns of not only the QAnon material and this deep state battle, but also true health and wellness as well as the history and latest rumblings of the secret space program. Self described as a guy wearing a red MAGA hat drinking an organic smoothie and talking about secret space programs and non terrestrial beings

03:23 A Pandora's box of personality and politics, and an enigma of a man. A 40 thinker if there ever was one the whiteboard king of YouTube Jordan my man! Welcome to the higher side. Thanks so much for having me on You got it man I'm really pumped for this I've been a bit resistant to the queue material just because i've been jaded by the pattern of the past and im not sure there are any good guys. And never want too sucked up in the latest conspiracy fad, but also want to remain open minded to everything and this queue stuff doesn't seem going away And we have these curious details we've covered in previous episodes about Donald Trump's uncle John at MIT combing over Tesla's material when he died, as well as the Sonora Aero Club drawings with the Trump name on them. And there are these tangential family name connections that do make me wonder you also can't deny that the entire media wing of The Big Machine is full court press against the president in a way that I've never really seen

CHAPTER 02 / 19 Discussion

White Hat Alliance, Shadow Civil War and 2016 Election

Jordan Sather describes a "white hat" alliance of military and intelligence insiders working to dismantle the deep state in a shadow civil war. The 2016 election of Donald Trump is framed as a counter-operation against rigged systems, facilitated by these internal groups following the WikiLeaks release of John Podesta's emails. This narrative suggests Trump was recruited by white hats to prevent Hillary Clinton from taking office and to initiate a changing of the guard.

white hats· deep state· hillary clinton· 2016 election· wikileaks

04:24 We're recording this the day after the big Space Force announcement, which is just another little thing to pile on. But let's unpack this Q stuff for the people... Where would you start this? I would start this with prefacing it by the idea of, well, I'm sure many of your listeners are familiar with the deep state, the cabal, the new world order. Right? This powerful group of families that have all consolidated power and finances to the top of the pyramid so we don't have to reiterate that but the idea of a white hat group or an or an alliance call it that if you will behind the scenes working to take down this deep state in a shadow civil war now this idea i heard about a few years ago probably two thousand eleven two thousand twelve when i first started waking up to all this stuff.

05:15 And I went very deep, very quick. And some of the ideas that I came across from the works of David Wilcock Benjamin Fulford and a few other people as well is the idea of white hat groups taking down The new world order now this is back in course two thousand eleven two thousand twelve lot of people thought there was gonna be some large mass arrest scenario in 2012 of course that never manifested right but now here we are about five to six years later after. Two thousand and twelve when I first started hearing about these ideas and then we get the election of donald trump and then about a year after that,

05:55 Q pops on the scene so cute popped onto the scene late october early november two thousand and seventeen of course donald trump got elected. November two thousand sixteen so this is massive very unexpected per se at least in regards to the election of donald trump everybody thought clinton was gonna win i believe what was it newsweek even made, Magazines saying madame president before the election even happened. And all the polls out there showed what 90, 95% confidence rate that she was gonna win. And it didn't happen and I'll be honest that whole year 2016 the mainstream media even got to me of course I wasn't for Hillary Clinton I knew she was corrupt as heck but then even Donald Trump I thought he was a racist bigot I thought he was controlled opposition I didn't pay any attention to it and even on election night I fell asleep I didn't vote I was disenfranchised with the whole system

06:55 And i fell asleep but when i woke up that next morning after the election and saw the trump is president i seriously scratch my head and i was like this doesn't seem like it's supposed to happen so. I began piecing the dots together of course we had the wiki leaks release john podesta emails just a few weeks before that election and again coming through all this stuff and it just started making sense to me that well maybe donald trump was actually, Asked to run for office or helps to be put into office by these white hat groups on the inside and that's really the only thing that made sense to me because it's pretty obvious that the election systems are all rigged they're all hacked. So i was like man how did clinton not make it if they have everything read for themselves and then the only thing that made sense to me was some kind of counter,

07:49 Operations some kind of prevention of hacking the systems to get donald trump in there and then of course be together but as his emails piece it together everything that's played out in the year and a half since then its really the only thing that does make sense is that donald trump weather you like him or not whether he triggers your not maybe the fact that he is triggering you something needs to happen. It does seem that there is definitely like you mentioned in the beginning of this show to be a changing of the guard then we get into the queue thing so let's talk about that here so q began posting. Late october early november two thousand seventeen which is about eight months ago now

CHAPTER 03 / 19 Discussion

QAnon Origins, 4chan Posts and Military Confirmations

The QAnon operation began in late October 2017 on the 4chan imageboard, utilizing cryptic messages to stimulate grassroots investigation into deep state corruption. Jordan Sather cites specific "confirmations" of the group's legitimacy, such as synchronized social media posts between Q and Donald Trump's Twitter account involving plus signs. Another cited instance involves the Department of Defense Twitter account posting an American Revolution image shortly after it appeared in a Q post.

qanon· 4chan· department of defense· military intelligence· white hats

08:32 And this group known as q began posting first on fortune the anonymous online posting board called for chan, post begin leave october twenty ninth or thirtieth one of those days and i caught wind of them very soon after it started looking into it and again its one of those things that just resonated. In thinking of the idea of mass arrests back in 2012, I think many of us that were predisposed to this idea we thought we were just going to wake up one morning. The emergency broadcast system was going to be going off nationwide and we were gonna see all these deep state perpetrators wheeled down Washington DC Main Street in orange jumpsuits like this is what we're all expecting. Very childish very foolish to expect that and

09:19 What we're seeing with q now is a much more strategic way of taking down the deep state because what these white hat groups are doing is essentially warning us they're saying hey look at these connections. Q is posting a bunch of cryptic things on fortune now h and. But originally i'm fortune anyway anonymous online posting boards q's posting anonymously on the internet to get us to look at things in connect dots that we wouldn't have normally looked at or connected so easily on our own, show it definitely getting the public ready and its also getting the public

10:00 Passionate it's getting them off their apathetic ass. So many people were you mentioned that you were cynical a lot of people out there skeptical and rightly so i mean we're cynical because how many times have we heard mass arrests are something is gonna go down against the deep state has happened in how many, people that we thought work good for humanity turn their backs against us but really its getting people to not only inform themselves but spread that awareness to their closest friends and family to start preparing your consciousness for what is the car so this whole queue operation is really just stand out beautifully and then comes into the question of well how do we know it's connected to be inside how do you know that this cute team or this name known as q on the internet is legitimate exactly. Add that has been answered many many times throughout different indirect confirmations

10:58 And by this I mean, for instance one of the very first ones that we had was that Q in one of the posts at the very end posted three plus signs. Plus plus plus Then only about two or three hours later on the president's Twitter, he tweeted something and at the very end of the tweet, he posted a plus plus plus. Very out-of-place, very random but that was one of the very first confirmations that we got showing that wow this Q group is actually connected to various public figures in the Trump administration and in the military itself. Another confirmation for instance this one happened on Christmas, Q posted a picture

11:38 from the American Revolution, very iconic photo. And only a couple hours later the Department of Defense Twitter posted that same photo These are just a couple examples of many of these confirmations that we've had now still ongoing to this day. Of course with this cube idea, this cube concept and how conspiratorial it is how damaging it is to the deep state its been heavily attacked. The attacks are still on going there's still getting more and more vicious per se not only in the mainstream media but we've had a lot of people in alternative media begin to attack as well

12:14 Definitely making me question some people in the alternative media whether their controlled opposition assets are not but these confirmation is still ongoing and i do still believe that this q and on group is connected at the highest levels and all of this. I don't want to say intel their linking cuz most of it is questions most of it is very cryptic and its done so for specific reasons but all this information that they're putting out there is approved at the highest levels. I believe all in all what we're seeing here is one of the white hat groups at least we can't say it is the alliance because there's many cells as many factions of white hat groups but a very well connected one. If not the main one is warning us and putting all these clues out for us they've been doing so for nine months. Well man i think that's a great overview and you say it did resonate with you from beginning but those confirmations are also seriously worth taking notice of,

CHAPTER 04 / 19 Discussion

Robert Mueller, 4D Chess and Russia Investigation Theories

A theory is presented suggesting Special Counsel Robert Mueller may be a "white hat" actor participating in a multi-dimensional strategy to expose the deep state. Jordan Sather posits that Mueller's investigation into Russian collusion was designed to go nowhere, thereby protecting the Trump administration while making deep state actors complacent. The discussion highlights Mueller's background as a Marine and his meeting with Donald Trump prior to the investigation's commencement.

robert mueller· 4d chess· russia investigation· fbi· marine corps

13:17 And I think some of the content has been really interesting too. For example, Q made the claim that Hillary Clinton is on some form of house arrest and that the injury boot she's been wearing was just to hide an ankle bracelet. He also asked a question about who was FBI director when The Clinton Foundation was doing what they do in Haiti? That's Robert Mueller! The same guy they got on Trump now. So i do find stuff like that to be Pretty compelling. It's hard to really ignore it if you're being objective Yeah it really is and a lot of people look down on the idea of 4d chess. And this huge plan in motion that is multi-dimensional but if you look at how the game has to be played, if your going to take down a deep state that has billions if not trillions of dollars and lots of power

14:14 If you're going to take down that deep state it has to be multi-dimensional. You have to take in so many different things into account, you have to put out disinformation and make things look like they're really not too confused people to get this operation progressing. So yeah absolutely there has to be this kind of multi dimensional game in play and I think that's exactly what we are seeing for instance you noted Mueller Mueller used to be FBI director during Bush and some very bad years for the presidency. But then again, you look at Mueller, Mueller's a Marine and Mueller met with Trump before he was tasked to head this Russia investigation so let's 4D chest this what if Mueller was placed in there purposely just to be an actor?

15:12 What is your is a white hat that's kind of what i'm positive here and it's a possibility in my opinion that you were was tasked to leave this russian best just make it go nowhere so it would then make a lot of people in the deep state. complacent it would shut them up in the meantime and also expose the fact that there is no Russian collusion from Trump and his administration. So how perfect would it be to put Mueller in charge of this investigation, fill it with a bunch of bad actors make it go nowhere and make them all look like fools? It's definitely possible I mean these are games within games and people forget that so you can never take anything at face value Exactly

CHAPTER 05 / 19 Discussion

Sealed Indictments, CEO Resignations and NXIVM Cult

The discussion focuses on the reported existence of 35,000 sealed indictments found in the PACER system, which far exceeds the annual average of 1,000. Jordan Sather links these legal filings to the high-profile arrests of Keith Raniere and Allison Mack in the NXIVM cult case. The segment also connects a wave of global CEO resignations, including Google's Eric Schmidt and leaders at Nickelodeon and Starbucks, to this ongoing behind-the-scenes legal pressure.

sealed indictments· pacer· nxivm· eric schmidt· anthony wiener

15:53 And a lot of this stuff is about the Clinton Foundation and breaking up the longstanding child trafficking networks deeply embedded in the government. That's one of the major themes, and we do hear a lot of claims that arrests are being made just not televised. And that's interesting there's the hashtag sealed indictments that Q followers use a lot. I think in your video you mentioned there being 35000 sealed indictments in six months? Yeah And that's a hell of a thing i mean i find that maybe hard to really verify i guess but it's exciting to think something is really going on behind the curtain and also the ceos resigning nickelodeon, possibly starbucks being connected but nickelodeon that's a curious one. Yes so you brought up couple great topics there for us to delve into

16:43 Let's talk about the ceo is first so again more dots to connect more things showing us that there's definitely something going on behind the scenes is the fact that we've had so many, CEOs board directors public officials prominent figures resigning over the last six months and this goes up into thousands. around the world so google ceo eric schmidt resigned you just mentioned a couple of very recent ones the nickelodeon head starbucks c.e.o. prime minister's ex-presidents there's been plenty of them arrested the express in brazil i believe one other careers there's just so many so many c.e.os are resigning and probably trying to run my opinion

17:31 Let's then talk about the sealed indictments. So this is an even bigger dot connect, a bigger rabbit hole here in the beginning of pretty much when Q first started posting early November some people then began tracking sealed court records around the country and you can actually verify this many legal professionals have access to what are called pacer records and the pacer system it's basically a log of all the sealed court records around the country anyone given time you have to be a legal professional with an account to access it and count around the country but some people do some people have been counting, add since november there been about five thousand records added every month.

18:16 to the sealed number around the country. And this is very weird because we have a report from 2009 that shows us the average tally of sealed indictments or sealed court records around the country for a given year is only about 1,000 And they might keep indictments sealed for a certain amount of time, whether it's high profile court case or there are various reasons they could keep a court record sealed. But usually it is unsealed pretty quickly and then whatever is going on in the court case wraps up so that fact we now have 35000 in 7 months when the average is 1000 for year and mind you these 35000 sealed indictments are still sealed

19:00 Only a few have been unsealed, and let's just talk about which ones have been unsealed. Sure! Well we're talking about Keith Raniere and Allison Mack of the NXIVM cult. Those are the couple of the records that have been unsealed, and you look at how high profile that is well wow what connections do we have to NXIVM and The Clinton Foundation? Many also let's talk about why the new york attorney general resigned in recent months well next is based in new york clinton foundation space to new york what else is based in new york will we have, do you work police department and everything that was found on anthony wiener laptop and winners emails which stands far beyond just texting a fifteen year old.

19:46 Again, there's so many things to track. So many connections going on and that's why it literally takes a team I'm just one person tracking what i've been tracking in regards to q anon and putting that out through youtube but there's so many other people that are all bring in their own pieces to the table and they're all tracking it from their experiences in their own perspectives coming across their own information so it's really beautiful how this always just somebody people are coming together and sharing what they're finding, what he was really done is stimulate a grass roots investigative movement of citizens looking into all the stuff for themselves realizing that there is so much information out there that's just.

20:26 not publicize its hidden and lots of information can be dug up on these bad actors in lots of connections can't be made between at all. If we just shout it off from the rooftops use social media like twitter like you to like facebook, do bring our information public what we can really make a difference in doing that exactly what we've been seeing the past few months All kind of kicked off. I don't want to say kicked off because it's been going on for years but once Q came onto the scene, it really stimulated people and it really kicked into the next level of public awareness

CHAPTER 06 / 19 Discussion

Tucson Vets on Patrol, Cemex and Human Trafficking

A controversy in Tucson involving the group Veterans on Patrol is examined, where citizen investigators claimed to find a child trafficking camp on property owned by Cemex. Jordan Sather notes that Cemex is a Mexican construction company whose owner is a major shareholder in the New York Times and has donated to the Clinton Foundation. The segment criticizes mainstream media and InfoWars for quickly dismissing the site as a mere homeless camp despite reported findings of restraints and child-sized tunnels.

tucson· cemex· veterans on patrol· human trafficking· clinton foundation

21:05 Well i mean you're making a pretty convincing case man and maybe this is a tangent but. A great example of a media blackout over something that does seem like a big deal as the situation in tucson where this vets on patrol group stumbled upon what the media including info wars is calling a homeless camp, What the citizen investigators are saying no this was a child trafficking camp based on what they found there where your thoughts on this situation and if it connects to the larger story at all. Yeah i think it absolutely connected the largest story in some way i don't really know too much of what's going on i've heard,

21:44 some heat being thrown on the veterans of patrol group like there's a shady individuals that. Hoax to this whole story yeah okay maybe again i have been following it closely to really know the fine details but i will say, call a homeless camp when there was car seat child toys and tiny tunnels only fit for children you know that was very weird to me. How quick the mainstream media snopes not only the mainstream media but like you mentioned various actors in the alternative media like info wars how quickly they came out just debunk it call it homeless camp, really made me scratch my head again i'm not saying veterans on patrol group is totally clean maybe are i don't know that what

22:28 But I will talk about some of the connections that we have between where this camp was found. We'll just call it a camp for general purposes, there are some connections between where this camp was found and the elites and that connection is Cemex. This camp was found on the property of a company called Cemex and Cemex is a large Construction contractor they deal with mixing concrete have a bunch of property but large quarries around and this camp was found on the property if you do some digging into semex you'll find that the owner of semex it's a mexican company, what is the owner of the company is also the second largest shareholder in new york times.

23:14 New york times of all places which is deep state corporate bullshit propaganda outlet top right there. you just do more dot connecting with that company and human trafficking information it connects. Semex properties around the country are located in a very heavy human trafficking prone areas not only that but semex donated to the clinton foundation thousands of dollars, couple years ago and there's also some people with connections between semex and the clinton foundation as well so Also i will know one thing to if you look at the symbolism around businesses in tucson you see a lot of weird dark occult. How do file code symbolism as well so two sides are very shady area and i think there's much more going on to this story then we're told i think it was a quick debunking because there are direct connections between what we found that you sign here this story and

24:15 Elite corruption you know and i don't know too much of the surrounding events but i do think there's much more than we're being told about it. I agree man i've seen a lot of that stuff they seem to have found as well weird restraints on trees yeah, and you know it could all be faked were only looking at this stuff through a screen but as you say when you dig into the connections of the people in players involved A lot of people pop up that you should be skeptical of so that to me lends some credence and. And to circle back to this idea of mass arrests and indictments, let me also ask you about suicides. Obviously we've seen many people suicided in conspiracy history – people who were revealing too much, people who were working on the wrong technologies, people who work for or get in the way of certain political dynasties, a string of bankers a few years ago and a huge number of holistic doctors in the past few years but

CHAPTER 07 / 19 Discussion

Celebrity Suicides, Kate Spade and Red Scarf Symbolism

The recent deaths of Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain are analyzed as potential assassinations rather than suicides, with QAnon followers urged to "track suicides." Jordan Sather suggests that media reports of hanging via a red scarf on a doorknob serve as a "code" or warning to others not to "rat" on elite networks. The segment highlights Kate Spade's alleged connections to shipping routes and her husband's appearance in a mouse mask following her death as symbolic messaging.

kate spade· anthony bourdain· chris cornell· chester bennington· red scarf

25:17 Most recently high profile wise we got kate spade anthony bourdain and sometimes a suicide is a suicide it's really hard to know what's going on in the person said i also think pharmaceuticals can make you do wacky things but, sometimes there's deeper story to be told and q did recently say track suicides so dc any connection between kate spade anthony board and things happening behind the scenes. Absolutely and like you mentioned i'm glad you practice it with the talk of suicides or assassinations we can just call that definitely a fact. In those circles is it goes all the way back to john f kennedy if not before that but james forestall is that the deep state will absolutely take you out if your threat their agenda and this goes for

26:10 Every topic every concept weather your like you mentioned working with free energy or very advanced technologies they don't want you working on if i can pay you off for blackmail u. Or if you just keep working on something even though the bird warehouse down those take you out it is withstand my are they did this with few other people as well holistic doctors you mentioned many many, Alternative health professionals natural health professionals have been taken out of the years and now recently with some more high profile names like kate spade. Anthony bourdain yeah in my opinion there's a lot of information that does make it look like they were taking out anthony board game,

26:56 He has a very interesting tweets about a month before he passed. Tweets look like he was joking but they were still fairly revealing even if you're doing it in a joking manner is talking about hillary clinton operatives him being on the receiving end of their wrath that's not fun, what are you making a joke about getting marching orders from the deep state very weird things very weird things she was tweeting before his suicide And then we also have Kate Spade. Now, Kate Spade is one that I'm much more positive of hers being an actual assassination—of her being taken out because Kate Spade does have plenty of connections with the Clinton Foundation. She's got a lot of connections between trafficking—actually shipping, I should say not trafficking but

27:45 It's weird when you look into kate spade and her foundations and the shipping that she was doing with some stuff that she had made for organizations in too long beach and how this meshes up with human trafficking i mean kate spade, i think she knew things i think she knew a lot of things and i think she was. Talking i think she was giving up some information and some details to authorities in the deep state found out and they took her out we also saw just a couple days after kate spade died remind you she die. The media that reported on her death saying that she hung herself from her door knob with red scarf

28:25 Anybody out there that's listening to this if you ever see a celebrity that commit suicide. And then the media says they hung themselves from their door knob with red scarf thats basically code for that person was talking in the deep state took them out and that message other people saying don't talk will take you out too. I believe chester bennington and chris cornell were both assassinated and in the media it was said they hung themselves from the door not with a red scarf Wow yeah and there's some other curious instances of the media saying that this is how people kill themselves so basically that's just a message it's a message they were off and brothers out there to not talk. So kate spade not only did we have her death reported as being bad which i don't know how the hell you hang yourself from door number red scarf but just a couple days after that her husband,

29:17 Left his new york apartment a couple days after she was found killed wearing a mouse mask it was basically rat mask and its really freaking creepy photo. And this rat mask also has a little red scarf hanging from it so it's as if kate spade was taken out, Her husband was given orders to wear this because that would be the message sent don't rat. Don't rat or will red scarf you home and it's scary that it comes to these levels but let's just be real if they take out a president john kennedy have no problem taking anybody else that's a threat to exposing them

CHAPTER 08 / 19 Discussion

Shadow Civil War, Military Aircraft Crashes and Public Awareness

The conflict between the deep state and white hat groups is described as a shadow civil war involving cyber warfare and the hacking of military aircraft. Jordan Sather points to a recent string of military aircraft crashes as potential sabotage or messaging between factions. The goal of the Q operation is framed as preparing the public consciousness for the eventual shock of unsealing thousands of indictments against prominent figures.

shadow civil war· military aircraft· cyber warfare· unsealing indictments· awareness

30:00 It's just the reality of the situation here. We're dealing with very dark, literally satanic groups that no-no ends to their corruption and their evil deeds so that's why we have to do all that we can to expose them truly and this is again bringing it back to the QAnon idea this is why Behind the scenes in the military these guys know it's very tough again because it's so compartmentalized within the military but so many people in the military are figuring out what's going on and putting the pieces together and They're wanting to expose The deep state do something about it also there some of the only people that can because they have a firepower, and they have technology and access to such so

30:44 They are working to do what they can to take down this deep state and it is completely a shadow civil war we're seeing. I mean how many military aircraft have been crashed over the past few months? So many! And the Deep State does have the ability to hack computer systems on craft, not just craft but cars and pretty much anything, take them down so more messages sent... Like you mentioned suicides have we been seeing and ceo's resigning and. We have the sealed indictments growing so many things that it's like wow all of this is so strategically being laid out before very eyes,

31:26 And at this point in time, it hasn't blown out into the mainstream quite yet. So it's up to us to piece this together figure out what's going on and alert our friends and family warn them as to what's to come and what is to come well the actual unsealing of all these indictments when that shit hits the fan there's gonna be a lot of people out there in shock but the more we warn them the more we look crazy right now the more that they're going to believe us when that shit hits the fan in the future Touche man and it is true that we've been propagandized for generations so, do you kind of walk that back is not a simple process you don't wanna break people's minds you know when pop their bubbles too quickly because otherwise they won't see where your coming from and they want truly be with you the just be confused in lost.

CHAPTER 09 / 19 Discussion

Asia Argento, Harvey Weinstein and Forgiveness for White Hats

The discussion turns to Anthony Bourdain's girlfriend, Asia Argento, and her public speech at Cannes regarding Harvey Weinstein shortly before Bourdain's death. Jordan Sather suggests that many individuals within occult or military-industrial circles want to "come forward" and make amends for past bad deeds. He emphasizes the need for public compassion and forgiveness to encourage these "imperfect allies" to testify against the cabal without fear of retribution.

asia argento· harvey weinstein· anthony bourdain· me too· forgiveness

32:18 And as far as other details about those suicides i also think it's really suspect that anthony bourdain girlfriend gave a speech at can like thirty days ago where she said point blank, i was raped by harvey weinstein here at can there are others amongst you in the crowd who have yet to be named but the heat is on now something like that and. That's kind of a big deal and then the day that anthony boarded died before It happened or was announced she tweeted a picture of herself from the neck down with the torn shirt that said fuck everyone and her tweet said you know who you are and it's like. You know what is that more signaling where she showing this huge chest tattoo that she has underneath or wishy showing

33:05 A rip shirt cuz she was attacked in some way i mean it just all is strange and even just the fact that a woman makes a speech about calling powerful people out as criminals and predators, and then within two weeks the love of her life commit suicide i don't think much more is needed for investigation to be warranted. I have to get point you made that i didn't bring up is anthony bourdain girlfriend and what she was saying, add when you look at their instagrams as well if you look at board a and his girlfriends instagrams there very weird. And there's some looks like just symbolic stuff contained within their pictures now i'm not saying that anthony bourdain was completely clean. What the circles that him and his girlfriend were running in very questionable i wouldn't doubt if they were also involved in some of that ritual stuff,

33:58 What it also goes to note here that a lot of people that run in those circles the secret societies the occult circles even many people within the military industrial complex as well. Lot of people involved in that stuff even if they are doing bad things i don't necessarily want to be there a lot of people are kind of seeing the light at the end of tunnel or the writing on the wall one of those and they want out when i start making amends for what they've done, can you sing the light of day and thats also very reason why we're saying so many of these suicides because it was that. Don't want their bad deeds exposed but what's continue doing this stuff they're trying to protect themselves

34:41 So I think that in this day and age we really need to practice forgiveness for these people. And if we do, were gonna have a lot more people have the courage and want to come forward because then they won't be scared of us wanting to rip their heads off so say many of these white hats many of these military alliance people they have not done very good stuff in the past Maybe they're an ex-CIA contractor or some ex DOD people that shit, maybe they were tasked to be on some hit teams and did the suicidings. Or whatever the case was but now their sick of being the bitch for the deep state And there's sick of being compartmentalized out of everything They are sick of being used and abused and now they want to come forward So truly if we have more forgiveness and compassion for these people and say hey I understand you've done bad things in the past But you wanna make amends now You wanna testify against

CHAPTER 10 / 19 Discussion

Dave Chappelle, Hollywood Secrets and Hunter S. Thompson

Comedian Dave Chappelle's recent Netflix specials are cited as evidence of an insider speaking out about the "gray areas" of the entertainment industry and the Me Too movement. The segment also explores a connection between Anthony Bourdain's book art and the artist associated with Hunter S. Thompson. This leads to a brief discussion of Thompson's alleged involvement in underground Hollywood rings and the Franklin scandal.

dave chappelle· netflix· hunter s. thompson· franklin scandal· hollywood

35:36 the cabal go for it we can work deal out and i love that you say that because another guy been paying attention to is dave chappelle just cuz i love comedy and he definitely has seen the inside of the machine somehow come out of it but. And his recent specials on netflix talks about me too movement he says look guys, You're gonna need a lot of imperfect allies you know you're gonna need a lotta allies who have done some shit and you can't. Have this black or white attitude or you know your gonna lose a lot of people in the gray that she kinda need, and he also says in that special just drops a few little lines is something to the degree of.

36:22 You know i walked away from fifty million dollars maybe these rates are the worst thing going on in hollywood or maybe these rates aren't the only bad thing going on in hollywood and it's like what a thing to say man. Again just you gotta read between the lines and another weird then might not mean anything but when i first heard about anthony bourdain that went looked at his twitter cuz i was like i just got a kind of parts this out and of course is big cover photo as the marketing from his last book, And it's done by the same artist that hunter s thompson is famous for working with and it's like there's another name that has popped up. In these weird rings i mean he's been accused of being the filmer first not films for the hollywood underground based on,

37:08 Some of the stuff that happened with the franklin scandal and some of those one of those kids in particular who spoke out it's like yeah what is going on there my looking at something a little gross i mean i think that's real possibility. Yeah good points you're making their just weird tangents and stuff but, Something else I hear you say, I can't recall if you were directly quoting Q but you mentioned in one of your videos that the Me Too movement is really just a proxy war relating to the fight to expose child trafficking and that's something, of course as I mentioned I've been exploring too. What are your thoughts on the Me Too movement as a whole? Is this another component of this same situation

CHAPTER 11 / 19 Discussion

Me Too Movement, Political Agendas and Hillary Clinton

The Me Too movement is characterized as a political distraction and a proxy war designed to put pressure on Donald Trump. Jordan Sather argues that the movement is rife with hypocrisy, pointing to Hillary Clinton's support for it despite her husband Bill Clinton's documented trips to Jeffrey Epstein's island. The movement is viewed as a tool of the establishment rather than a genuine effort to protect victims.

me too movement· hillary clinton· bill clinton· jeffrey epstein· distraction

37:52 Yeah, it could very well be. My opinion on the Me Too movement is that I don't view things as black and white, I view things as very gray and while on the surface level, of course sexual abuse, sexual misconduct in any form whether it's a guy against a girl or a girl against a guy not good Not something that we should Be okay with consent between individuals and openness honesty transparency it's always gonna work out for the better but now let's look at it from a political angle. Tell me to movement you look at who is behind it who started it with that loudest proponents for it,

38:33 seems to be all these people that are resigning or involved in sexual misconduct themselves or they are what sounds like deep state people with a lot of high so what i think this will need to move and is at the deepest level it's a distraction was made to put the heat on Many of these white people especially donald trump you just mentioned earlier you know we might not like him he might not be the perfect individual you might have made some. Lady grabbing comments in the past and what not but it goes to note right here that she's not a child sacrificer he's not that bad maybe use done a little womanizing or whatnot

39:22 What is not involved in the dark circles i think this will meet you boom it was made just as a political agenda movement. It's funny when i hear hillary clinton trying to talk about me to move men or anybody like that and then like hillary clinton are you serious hillary clinton miss, road to jeff epstein island six times married bill clinton who went there twenty six times And you're still married to Bill Clinton and the hypocrisy is stunning with many of these people in this me too movement Then we can get into talking about feminism as well Feminism is just a whole shit show in and of itself. Hmm Yeah, I just see a lot of political agenda behind it Well sure I mean let's elaborate I guess on feminism

CHAPTER 12 / 19 Discussion

Feminism Origins, CIA Influence and Family Unit Deconstruction

Jordan Sather critiques modern feminism, claiming its origins are tied to Gloria Steinem and CIA influence intended to deconstruct the family unit. The narrative suggests that the establishment encourages women to enter the workforce and leave children in state-run daycare to increase control over future generations. This social engineering is described as an attempt to swap masculine and feminine energies to create a weaker, more easily dominated population.

gloria steinem· cia· feminism· family unit· social engineering

40:09 Right, so feminism again backing up here let's generalize. I'm all for women empowerment i'm all for male empowerment! I just want humans to be empowered in and of themselves but when it comes to feminism Funny when you look at the origins of feminism it comes from glorious dinam a lot of it does few decades ago and glorious dine on work for the CIA she was NASA for them at one point in time and many of the ideas that she's bringing forth is completely disempowering what do they want feminist to do these days. Women in general what does the establishment want women to do they want woman to be equal to men. And by that they mean they want women to don their pantsuits go out into the workforce make as much money is mad you away from home do everything the man is doing but, when and where are different things and there different for a purpose many women are not supposed to be equal

41:08 It's not the point there so many things that a man is made more capable for women men are stronger manner more physically resilient. So make me do the hard labor jobs design for the masculine energy is one of polar opposite to the feminine energy what's the feminine energy it's the energy of creation it's the energy building up of creating more human beings itself so the fact that they want women to leave the household what leave their kids behind and put their kids in a state daycare sounds great. And then there trying to do the opposite with men with me and they're trying to demasculinize them are so many toxic chemicals environment that completely screws testosterone production up, add all this programming done in the media that

41:58 completely just screws with guys and their heads. It's like there's this complete swapping of the feminine and the masculine that the elite are trying to do, just to completely make weak humans it can be controlled easier I mean if you physically we can get a mentally weak and if you have males that are both physically mentally week they're gonna be much easier to dominate control if u have females that are out there. Leaving their kid in daycare because they want to go on the workforce like men or do whatever man's doing not even needing to say many to be in the work force me men can definitely stay home with little ones too but basically it's breaking up of the family unit that were saying

42:38 and exactly what the elite want they don't want strong family strong connections i want disconnected human beings are we can easy to control and maintain. Right kids raised by the state kids rate but date informed by the stakes when you're informed about the state your learning everything they want you to learn. 99 percent of that is bullshit Indeed i can be a deep and thorny rabbit hole for sure but i definitely think you are. It not a lot of important points people should consider now let me ask why does q always speak in such vague code i mean this is one of the things that i think a lot of people wonder, why not just tell us point blank what you have to get out there if it's so important and your already taking the risk you did touch on this a little bit but

CHAPTER 13 / 19 Discussion

QAnon Cryptic Communication, Self-Sovereignty and Savior Complexes

The reason for Q's cryptic communication style is explained as a method to avoid legal inadmissibility and to force a grassroots investigative effort. Jordan Sather argues that if Q provided direct answers, it would foster a "savior complex" where people worship an idol rather than thinking for themselves. The goal is described as achieving human sovereignty and maturity by requiring individuals to connect the dots and "save themselves."

cryptic code· psychological operations· sovereignty· savior complex· grassroots

43:24 Is there more to say for the people who are hung up on this aspect? Because it's something that I hear a lot from the feedback of my audience. Great question so when it comes to q's post and the reasoning behind his post there is many different reasons its multi layer similarly to the way that deep state operates, what did you say pulls up. What flag is some kind of psychological operation there's many reasons as many layers behind it in regards to queue the reason that it's so cryptic is for one if there's information that is classified it wouldn't be smart for them to come up and say it also for legal purposes as well so a lot of this. Information that's coming out i'm not saying information that's devolving q post but information that, a lot of the researchers are finding if this were just be said by you it would be admissible in

44:22 Legal court system it has to come from a grassroots investigative effort so cute is basically acting like a laser pointer saying hey look over here we're gonna guide you were gonna be the way show or but it's up to you guys figure out yourself because then that way if. Enough people start taking social media and making their hashtags are making their memes of their posts to raise public awareness well then, Maybe an investigation can happen at an official level into something that thousands of people are calling for. But you think if this weird anonymous enigma on the internet just post, hey this is information it's gonna be very easy to throw out a legal case so not only that but let's take it to a deeper level lets just talk about the spiritual component of this if q were to just give us the answer

45:19 That would mean use our savior we don't want another savior we want to be able to think for ourselves not only individually but as a society we wanna be able to be sovereign free human beings that is mature enough to. Handle ourselves so do that means well we're gonna have to connect our own dots and things are on sales well then you know it wouldn't be very conducive to getting people Aware and conscious if Q just came out gave us all the answers It's not what we're looking for a lot of people are waiting for their Savior to come down and save the day whether their Savior is Jesus or whether their Savior is

46:00 an alien species or weather their savior is donald trump that's not the way it happens. It's not the way growth occurs as not the way you become a free and sovereign human being is by being saved know your to save yourself so thats another beauty behind these two posts is there so cryptic Because this white hat group they want you to save yourself. They don't want to be their saviors for you and be another idol hmm, I mean that's a really interesting take because At first glance the soul q and on trump perspective that's what turns me off from it is i'm not looking for another savior and. Add face value it kinda looks like that's where people are putting their trust in trump and, it's funny that you just point out at a deeper level no not really its not that way exactly and i can understand we're coming from insane dad on a service of does kind of feel like

46:56 Q and is a savior coming to save us all but I don't think it's you being as much of the savior as humans just with our programming that we've been. Programmed with for lack of better way to say it the program even dirt for thousands of years have made us into Worshipping peoples we love to worship. We love to give away our power because it takes a lot of responsibility and a lot of maturity To figure out your own power and use it so we love to worship, we love to give it away to Idols And I think a lot of people who are following Q just don't realize that yet on a deeper level Not saying they're ill intention or anything They just don't realize that yet that they're seeing you as a savior So I think it's... A lot of these

47:43 Things that we believe about you really come from how we see the people that follow q not yourself yeah that's a fair point. Lot of people out there who are pretty anti cue i see a lot of people following you, who is still kind of acting like assholes and their rating those better against them and anti queue when it's pretty bad but that's not you that's the key followers still having some Shadows within the base don't need to work on and okay great maybe they're seeing you when understanding a little bit of what's going on but i just don't have the maturity to not very people are not too worship something there is still saying so i think it's just a lot of that people follow q still have some. Can you get me all do we all have our own shadows that we have to work on

CHAPTER 14 / 19 Discussion

AI Theories, Human Interaction and Vladimir Putin

The theory that Q is an artificial intelligence is dismissed based on human interactions and technical constraints on the 8chan platform. The conversation shifts to Vladimir Putin, with Sather referencing a viral video where he claims Trump and Putin are "trolling the world" together. Putin is framed as an opponent of the deep state who has publicly criticized the rise of satanism in Western elite circles.

artificial intelligence· 8chan· vladimir putin· syria· inspector general

48:34 Amen man that's a great point if i was held responsible for the actions of all my followers i'd be pretty fucked so it really isn't fair. So another interesting claim I've heard suggested is a little far out maybe you consider this too but, is it possible that queue is AI and then its matching its own coded messages and other digital media to get people worked up? I read that many times not with something that was said often in the beginning of q as well is that it's a program some effect and again is one of those things just doesn't resonate just doesn't make sense because we're somebody's confirmations, we've actually had some of the nonce anons are what the people following the keyboards on eight channel for chatter locally called.

49:27 So some of these and actually ask for things to say this confirmation you know mention popcorn or something that effect in the new news post. Something having to do with popcorn on his twitter so it's as if we have human interaction i just don't feel that we have a i am also some of the coders on have said that it's basically impossible for them to have an ad doing what he was doing because she is logging in from an ip address and then. changing their trip codes every so often i'm not too familiar with all the text speak behind what's going on and for changing but it's really not possible for you to be. Some sort of add also taking into account what we've been mentioning is that seal indictments ceo resigning whats going on with the report and investigations

50:21 that the inspector general's office is undergoing right now it's like all these things bring together i don't feel like he was a. Fair enough there's definitely real world rumblings going on that match what's happening on the screen so yeah I think that you make a great counter argument to that and i also got ask about Putin and I hesitate because that's all anyone fucking talks about but what is your take on story between the lines when it comes to these two? I know that you had a real viral video about their relationship. You say they are trolling the world, What do you mean by that

CHAPTER 15 / 19 Discussion

Global White Hat Alliance, Saudi Arabia and Q Identity

The potential for a global alliance of white hats is discussed, possibly including leaders like Bashar al-Assad of Syria, who has criticized "White Helmet" propaganda. Jordan Sather clarifies that "Q" is likely a team of people with high-level access to the Trump administration and the Department of Defense rather than a single individual. The segment concludes with a call to look past political labels and focus on the service to others versus service to self.

saudi arabia· bashar al-assad· emmanuel macron· white hats· department of defense

50:59 Yeah that video for those out there who are familiar with my work this video i posted about a year ago so this was well before q is about six months before you came out and it's one of the first videos i did with that whiteboard. Add it was called trump in putin trolling the world night basically just light out why i thought trumpet poutine, This occurred during the first syria debacle when that forty some missiles were sent to syria. Little over a year ago i looked at that and i was like you know everybody was thinking trump was a warmonger in world war three is about to start all this stuff on my still feel that way and i was looking at the details feeling how they are piece together not like i think it trump and putin are,

51:45 working together behind the scenes to take down this deep state. And I still feel that way and the reason I say that is because when actually hearing Putin, when listening to the words that are coming out of his mouth not be second third hand hearsay through The Great Fine Stuff looking at our mainstream media and whatever false False narrative that throwing out there but when actually listening to what he says in his speeches he said some pretty damning things how do you the deep state i believe even if some of it is. Speeches he mentioned that satanism is taking a route and elite circles in america not positive on that one so don't completely cool me but yes definitely late on the line and surprise me

52:29 So I just felt that from Putin. I'm like, I don't think Putin is really a Hitler-esque dictator that our media is making him out to be and if Trump or if Putin, I mean, is working to take down the deep state well why would he not be friends with Trump which it very much looks like Trump is trying to do as well? And then you kind of look at their relationship And I think what Putin has said about Trump, it's like totally makes sense that maybe on a superficial level they act like enemies or they act like they're not too fond of each other just so the deep state doesn't have a shit show with their media and attack them. But I think on a much deeper level there working together

53:12 Right on and so if we consider the new world order cabal to be like the royal saudi's the soros network the rothschilds, are there other world leaders in the white hat alliance besides putin and trump. Could very well be putting trump maybe a solid as well aside is definitely laid on the line talking about the false flags in syria very recently talking about the white helmets being bullshit propaganda. I do think we have some others i mean we have our typical western nations that look very cool so you can't germany macron and france,

53:56 All these countries they look pretty sick then again we can't generalize and say that this country is good or bad because this leader is gonna be. Of course delving into the if you're familiar with ufo history many many leaders of countries are letting on any of the deep state stuff, add within countries there so many factions in the country as well but It's a fight for good and evil right now it's not left or right thing it's not a liberal conservative thing i have a lot of. Conservatives that follow my channel because i do support donald trump but i don't label myself anything i don't label myself religiously politically just because boxes you in if u do your already kind of shutting down,

54:46 higher perspective if you are labeling yourself but i just say right now it's a fight for good and evil doesn't matter what side of the aisle your on there's a lot of bad republicans bad democrats is not a good ones to good democrats good republican dot their i think we just went past the labels started looking at as well are u. servicing good or you servicing others with your thoughts and words and actions? Or are you just servicing your own selfish endeavors through thoughts, words and actions. I think if we looked at it like that be much easier. Cheers to that! That's important. You know every label i've ever worn in the past I eventually outgrew so eventually I just learned to stop using them and we should all be so wise. Before I let you go the big question man who is Q

55:35 I don't think you is anyone person that people are getting lost in kind of pinning it on one particular individual. I think he was already shown themselves to be a group of people with connections to the trump administration to the dd connections within, Even all three letter agencies more or less i think it's one team of people working behind the scenes to take down the deep state and i think they prove themselves time again that they are connected and they are working for the betterment of humanity.

CHAPTER 16 / 19 Discussion

Destroying the Illusion, Censorship and Newsletter Subscription

Jordan Sather provides information on where to find his work following the termination of his original YouTube channel, which had 150,000 subscribers. He directs listeners to "Destroying the Illusion 2.0" on YouTube, as well as alternative platforms like BitChute and DTube. Sather emphasizes the importance of his email newsletter as a censorship-proof way to receive information directly.

destroying the illusion· youtube censorship· bitshoot· dtube· newsletter

56:12 Bear very nuanced way to look at that and time will tell but damn, jordan i think overall it's a really compelling narrative my show tends to lag pretty far behind current events just cuz i interview a lot of authors about their books and all that stuff takes time to roll out but it was really nice to be able to talk. a lot about the big stories lately you covered them all well made a great case that we should at least be paying attention to q posts and looking through, the mainstream media narratives and seeing if there isn't something deeper in their usually is and before i cut loose remind people about the work you do where to find it and what's going on. What are the work i do recovered a lot of it here in this show today i try to cover pretty much anything

57:02 Self knowledge based or world knowledge base even cosmic knowledge that we're just not taught in our schooling systems. So i talk a lot about health i talk a lot about cosmology physics science real science not the bs were taught in the establishment school systems but also talk about politics and expose every piece that i feel like we're misled on. Add i do that through social media primarily youtube you to deleted my, first channel my main channel that I had they actually terminated it twice and This last time it hasn't been reinstated since so I lost a hundred and fifty thousand subscribers on that Channel But you can find me on destroying the illusion 2.0 on YouTube

57:51 Still uploading videos there. You can also find me on bit shoot and D tube as well for video uploads But I also use Twitter, I'm also on Facebook and then My website is well destroying the illusion calm And if you sign up for the newsletter they're just punching your email and hit subscribe That's a place that I cannot be censored So they can take away my YouTube account, Twitter account and shadow ban me on Facebook. But good old email is a way that I can get information straight to you so that's what i do and that's where I do it! And thank you for having me on your higher side chats today my friend, I appreciate it! You got it! You do great work and we didn't even get to the health stuff... maybe next time but thanks again and take care out there! Alright take care

CHAPTER 17 / 19 Discussion

Host Reflections, Alt-Right Labels and Plus Show Preview

The host reflects on the interview, acknowledging that some listeners may perceive the content as "alt-right" while maintaining a stance of open inquiry. A preview of the "Plus" show for subscribers is provided, mentioning upcoming topics such as Kim Jong Un, Elon Musk, and UFO experiences. The host defends the value of understanding diverse perspectives regardless of one's final conclusions.

alt-right· inquiry· elon musk· ufo· nixon disclosure

58:39 Holy mind-controlled Al Roker people, Jordan Sather. Jay Saith dropping knowledge I can say right off the bat that this is a show where i'll get messages and comments and say hey, i had to turn this off halfway through. I guess you're turning into an alt-right mouthpiece etc etc. And one show does not indicate a pattern... ...and it's just funny because the culture in weird place right now and people tend to gravitate towards a show that reinforces their view And this show exists to kind of get different views. And so this one is a bit different and I think we got one of the best representations of that perspective that's out there right now, So big thanks to Jordan and kudos to him for doing his thing well as a show producer i guess my quality in speaking voice is a factor too and the dude is articulate for being what probably younger than me

59:40 So overall, I don't know. I'm on the fence with this perspective This is coming from the guy who said Earthshape agnostic You think i'm making up my mind about something like this? I just wanted to dig in know what it's all about and if something radical does happen that the media can't even spin you won't be confused But i'm a wait-and-see guy. I don't really support anything but inquiry So whatever you think, now when someone brings up QAnon or makes a reference you know what they're talking about. And you know where they're coming from rather than just having a vague fuzzy understanding and recognizing the term

1:00:19 i think over the course of two hours we did a really good overview and got the cliff notes to the perspective as deep as it is in the plus show and second hour, we talked about kim jong un and the north korea situation which is radically different. Then its been presented us before i mean who knows again what's true but it is mind blowing to consider the new context i had But we also talk about Elon Musk and corporate sabotage, William Tompkins and Cory Good, Jordan's own experiences with orbs and UFOs, Trump & ETs, the Nixon disclosure time capsule hidden in the White House, and the IG report. So I tried to get through all of those major bullet points. It is good to be educated on a perspective regardless what you conclude about it

CHAPTER 18 / 19 Discussion

Immigration Policy, Media Narratives and Pizzagate Comparisons

The host addresses criticism regarding his silence on the "kids in cages" immigration story, explaining that he avoids mainstream "outrage of the week" topics. He compares the media coverage of immigration to the Amber Lyon story about CNN accepting foreign money for favorable coverage. The segment argues that while the host opposes state-sponsored family separation, he prioritizes covering stories the mainstream media ignores, such as Pizzagate.

immigration· kids in cages· cnn· amber lyon· pizzagate

1:01:11 And, uh... you know maybe some of you know this. I don't really care because it's just bullshit alternative media Twitter drama but several people like actual public figures have called me out lately for pimping Pizzagate but being silent on the kids in cages immigration thing and its just dumb because not talking about something is not somehow an endorsement You could never keep up if that were the case Consider the wide range of media hosts and ask if I've ever had anything to say about illegal immigration or made that some kind of issue. I really don't care about it too much, and i live pretty close to the border

1:01:51 I've gone on street food tours and TJ. And the nuances of immigration policy are not something that i weigh in on or the effects of illegal immigration because i don't think it's that big a deal, and i think in a city like san diego we have found a way to fold it in where most people who are actually involved seem fine with it its everyone else who has an opinion But to suggest i've ever mouthed off with some right wing rant against immigrants is just not right. What this is just to say that today we did get an opinion on it from our guests in an episode that recorded the day before trump signed that concession by the way,

1:02:33 But the point would be that a perspective was offered that these aren't parents and their kids being ripped apart the way the media is portraying it. Is that a reasonable opinion? Well, you're talking to someone who thinks there's a high probability that Sandy Hook was faked...and The Moon Landing if you really want to go back! But big things as well as small. I've seen plenty of examples of mainstream media making a small gathering look like a huge protest Or just look into the Amber Lyons story. She caught CNN accepting money from foreign countries for favorable coverage, essentially an infomercial! So I think it's absolutely reasonable to wonder if the media is actually reporting on this conveniently highly charged issue fairly isn't it? It has nothing to do with compassion for kids. It's about can this narrative and the vehicles that deliver it be trusted

1:03:30 Either way wouldn't surprise me much but you also have to consider jordan is an advocate of the key perspective and advocate for president trump so when he's confronted with a story like this, he may be inclined to gravitate towards position that is consistent with his world view. I think about that too yeah i gotta consider that I'm only saying don't jump to conclusions either way. And, I also think that when i covered Pizzagate it was very much the same way in saying look you've heard this term pizzagate buzzing around or q and on and it's a deep dense rabbit hole to get into so let's take a show to summarize it for you the case that's being made what its based on why people are thinking this way etc It is exploration of alternative perspective where you make up your own mind

1:04:21 But if I've been silent on the kids in cages saga, it's only because i don't aim to consistently counterpoint all these little mainstream stories of the weak things and the last few shows just have not been related to that at all. But for the record, yeah I don't like kids in cages. I equally don't like using kids as vaccine guinea pigs. I also don't endorse cutting off the tips of baby dicks. I also don't like kids used by media to manipulate people's emotions and I don't like kids killed overseas by drones or traded around Hollywood parties. I think I have done my fair share of defending kids regardless of where they come from

1:05:02 Or at least I've harbored plenty of personal outrage. But horrors happen every day, don't just feed from the media saddlebag of outrage because kids have been getting fucked over by the big machine way before Trump and they still are! Even if you take this story at face value, I just listed several other areas where i'd expect a person to be equally outraged but it only seems to crop up when its politically convenient form and the media is covering it And immigration's a complicated thing, and I'm not a full-on natural law guy. But when it comes to this situation if it was to be taken as presented... ...I would never argue the state should be coming in and pulling apart families over paperwork and imaginary lines! That should be pretty obvious but another difference between THC covering the details of Pizzagate and not covering The Kids In Cages saga

1:05:56 Is that the mainstream media wouldn't talk about pizza gate and the kids in cages stuff this week is all they want to talk about. So why do they need me? I hope that's an obvious difference, i hope listeners who feel like i've been bit one sided on Q now feel like we've given it a fair shake! I thought was convincing way more convincing than i would have thought initially And i also think you can trust me to give things a fair chance if you have patience because I book these interviews usually a month or so in advance. It takes a minute to catch up to what's going on regardless i thought this was a great interesting topical THC

CHAPTER 19 / 19 Discussion

Celebrity Death Theories, Political Fatigue and Closing Credits

The host expresses a personal interest in alternative theories regarding celebrity deaths and suicides, viewing it as a form of respect for the truth. He admits to "political fatigue" and explains his preference for "getting weird" with topics rather than following standard partisan narratives. The episode concludes with a closing message to "deep state derailers" and a thematic song about elite corruption and self-trust.

celebrity deaths· political fatigue· mkultra· deep state· closing song

1:06:40 Call me morbid but i really like looking into alternative theories for deaths and suicides of celebrities, and I know that some people will say it's disrespectful to the dead. I disagree if i die and you don't look into alternative theories then im disrespected so let's say right now i want all the theories about my death to be circulated and you know my wife and family they're gonna understand they no But i'm not trying to be no cold hearted about all these topics it's just that, i'm cynical and pin through the ringer and bad stuff is constantly happening you can't let at all affect you. It doesn't mean we shouldn't do something to help other people also we absolutely should so i thought was great

1:07:33 We haven't had a very topical month and i consciously tried to stay non political for the most part because i just have political fatigue it is so draining. So we've been getting weird and this also was weird in big ways too i mean its a pretty epic proposal when you really think about overall, So i hope it was food for thought and however you end up feeling I hope that even if you disagree, you can respect where Jordan is coming from and respect how well he can backup why he thinks the way he does. We all be friends in the end under the cotton candy rainbow or something like that

1:08:10 One more show coming out to close out June, a big name from the world of weird. I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised and that's it for me Your move deep state derailers pedophile wranglers and cage rattlers with the conservative coup your fucking move You know the plan has always been to hack your brain MKUltra is trying to drive you insane They'll explode your heart if they think that's what it takes You think I'm answering the phone, well I ain't. You gotta keep the curtains drawn Cause you don't want anyone thinking your at home Well your not! You should tape the mail slot And baby if i seem withdrawn Let me say it's cause I just Don't wanna go and get whacked Maybe you should know that The trauma affects you like it does everyone

1:09:09 It's just a game plan, it's what the world's become They want a pat down and a swap Don't you see what's going on? Well now you know You're better keeping on your own Cause' you can see The masters lie too much Oh baby, you can only trust yourself And if you think the system's out of touch It is and you can only trust yourself I hope you know the elite aren't your friends They'll suck out everything from you in the end If for some reason, you think I might be wrong I wonder where you got that opinion from

1:10:02 You gotta keep the curtains drawn Cause you don't want anyone thinking you're at home Well, you're not. You should tape the mail slot And baby if I seem withdrawn Let me say it's cause I just Don't wanna go and get whacked Maybe you should know that The trauma affects you like it does everyone It's just a game plan, it's what the world's become They want a pat down and a swap Don't you see what's going on? Well now you know You're better keeping on your own Cause' you can see Masters lie too much Oh baby, you can only trust yourself And if you think the system is out of touch It isn't. You can only trust yourself Da da da da

1:11:02 You might think that these problems are small Or maybe they aren't registering at all Now they know you're naive and vulnerable You won't believe all of the stunts that they'll pull Cause you can see, the masters lie too much Oh baby you can only trust yourself And if you think The system's out of touch It isn't. You can only trust yourself Cause you can see

1:11:59 Oh baby you can only trust yourself And if you think the system's out of touch It is and you can only trust yourself