Dave Zed & Co. | Secret Science, Dark Web Findings, & The Black Goo

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01:36 Brace yourselves, Hireside Chatters from sunny San Diego. I'm Greg Carlwood and I need to know your seat backs and tray tables are in the upright locked position because today we are diving straight down into the deepest depths the rabbit hole has to offer We know there are levels of the game we aren't read into, aspects of reality that haven't been educated on and players on the field that will never be known to little old us. Though sometimes whistleblowers researchers and even dark web documents can give us more to go on than ever before... And it all makes this island earth seem like a golden snitch in a game of cosmic quidditch Multidimensional feeders of negative energy, secret space program factions in a covert war alien intervenors enacting their own influence and deep state agendas so far out they boggle the mind. Well nobody digs up dirt and spills the conspiracy like the great Dave Zed back in the saddle for a second wild ride through his research which you can always follow on his YouTube channel or Patreon page under the moniker GenerationZ

02:35 Today Dave's partner Riel Wilmont is also joining us and from what I've seen he really knows his stuff too. Last time it got weird with horseshoe crab blood, harvesting alien livers portal openings lizard people and a whole lot more now we're checking in after a year and a half to see what's new in this dedicated deep dive into all things out there Zed is not dead baby so let's do it the dark web walker whistleblower talker and classified document stalker Dave my man welcome back to the higher side Thank you so much, Greg. I really appreciate the introduction and being here with you and your lovely audience. And I'm very honored to be back! Thank you so very much sir. I am super honored to be here as well. What a fantastic introduction. You never disappoint Greg. Thanks for having us. It's a real pleasure Dave to have you back and a warm THC welcome to Riel as well

03:30 That last interview was one of the wildest ones of the year and I assume today won't be much different. I know that you're always at it, putting out videos every couple days How have things progressed over the last year and a half? How has your understanding behind the curtain changed since then Dave Well Greg first and foremost I want to thank you so much for even starting off with asking that question, Again, and I will delve into more detail but there has definitely been even putting kovat to the side a certain you could say energy in the air if you will regardless of where you live that feels as if Something is you could say not necessarily on the horizon But rather something is here. But what that thing? Is it's not anything I guess you could say physical or anything we could put our finger on per se and

04:30 I will tell you Greg that that's what has led both myself and Riel down very interesting paths. Myself down the path actually of pursuing more of the scientific side, which is interesting because the more I delve into the science, the more I realize that the science actually opens up an even larger and broader door metaphorically than when i was on your show a year, year-and-a-half ago because you would think that again science has to follow the scientific method very rigid methods and procedures when in a matter of fact looking from the outside in to the academic community of STEM, science technology engineering mathematics. I guess you could say the quote-unquote woo part of science has always been there it's just never been brought into the topic of discussion or the forum of discussion but it's been very very seriously invested in and taken seriously by military intelligence groups so I find it quite interesting that

05:32 The more I delve into the science, the dark web documents, the dark web footage you name it. Believe it or not, the more quote-unquote crazier it gets and I don't say that in a fear mongering manner but...I don't think there's any other way to say it Mm-hmm. Well, I agree with you that is one of my favorite realms to get into really is the sciences and it's interesting because so many different types of alternative thinkers end up stumbling into the same area whether its people who started by looking at consciousness or People who are like who is this Nikola Tesla guy? And what does he really about um

06:10 Or even occultists and pagans who are more focused on the natural world and the elements. I mean, you go deep enough into that stuff too and you will come out into this area where it's like well...natural systems tell us quite a bit if we are observant of them You can go back to ether theory and Tesla tech and plasma an electromagnetism. Like those are kind of the foundational aspects, meanwhile our conventional science is going off on dark matter and string theory. And I mean even that includes a little vibration so they're tiptoeing into that area but it just seems like there's two totally different

06:54 Aspects of science are two totally different models, and one has been promoted with everything they got in the tank. And the other one's been suppressed in the same way with the same amount of attention If I could say Greg, you said that perfectly because in my humble view the suppressed angle of things is not in my humble opinion. Not that for example when we have Klaus Schwab there on the World Economic Forum saying for example In the next 10 years everyone's gonna be able to read each others thoughts and minds with a chip in their brain well okay hold on a second Why isn't there any, we could say disclosure or revelation about the more as I call it organic side of things which is that we already have this alleged capability within us and I have loads of scientific

07:42 academic papers within the academic community that actually substantiates that, but the second you try and extrapolate and inquire more it's well no no don't look into it. But why don't they tell us about the organic side of this? And I think its because Greg they simply cannot control it. And I really appreciate you bringing up the elements in all of this because to me this speaks to the idea Thinking of the neurological form constants or thought forms if you will so for example when someone is in line at Victoria's Secret or at the Apple Store something like this I've discussed this on my members, on my Patreon side more recently but one is pursuing arguably you could say the idea of obtaining that iPhone or that Victoria's Secret lingerie if you will than actually obtaining it and to me that speaks to metaphysically and scientifically and ontologically. The joy is in the journey You being in that line at that Apple store was more thrilling

08:41 to you internally, psychologically physically emotionally spiritually than you actually obtaining that iPhone because once you got it the excitement was lost. So then needed to reinvigorate in your mind that reconvincing projection of no I wanted this it was worth for me stand in line and I bring this up Greg because when we take even a step back from that in macro fractal sense and we look at that concept, I then beg the question and i don't mean to sound overly woo here but where do our thoughts go? And what I mean by that is very simple. We have

09:18 Solids, liquids and gases as we understand it. Why is there not anything that has been disclosed in the public domain of you could say academia or otherwise that goes above the liquids in gaseous state? And I think that's because when we look for example at plasma ball lightning things like this Right off the bat, you look at any peer-reviewed journal even dark web documents. You clearly see that there is an intertwining direct connection between things like we could say plasma and ball lightning and things for example like adrenochrome And I will substantiate that right now for example which is that...and I must attribute this to a friend who we have on the show quite often Mr Dan Winter his findings not myself which are

10:05 If you take in mathematics, Planck times golden ratio and you multiply that to three very specific integer states what you have is the exact radius or radii of hydrogen. Now, what's interesting about hydrogen is that hydrogen is a very vital building block of not just putting adrenochrome to the side for a moment. It is a very vital building block of what we call life We then have to ask ourselves okay when we look at this and see for example that people in line at that Apple store To bring it full circle for you and your audience When they're focusing on that iPhone are they emitting a bioresonant frequency

10:44 relative to different parts of their body, that is emitting a frequency that is above the liquid and gaseous level state component whatever you want to call it. That then gets dare I say perhaps harvested or collected somewhere now we could say oh Dave this is you know Mr Robert Monroe's Loosh as he discussed yeah? I would say very strongly absolutely! I think this also delves directly in with things like psychotronics And my overall point here, arguably Greg is that we as humans I think are natural conductors. We you know kundalini meditation breathwork you name it? I think ultimately there is an attempt to suppress that organic side of us being natural conductors if you will and they are doing that by focusing our intent and attention

11:33 to that of things like you know the latest iphone to create that emotional excitement so that we are so caught up in the midst of. The joy and the journey which is great but i think we need to be fully aware to the farthest extent weekend of the journey where on, if we are having fun on a journey that we have not even consciously committed to then what are we doing so forgive me for the ramble but thats my two cents on that there No well said and i think you're on to something with the journey being more enjoyable sometimes i remember camping out, what bodies to see star wars episode one and the campaign was definitely better than watching star wars episode one.

12:15 With the states of matter, you're also onto something. I mean that's getting into alchemy and blurring the lines between states of matter liquid and powder gold and spagyric teachers and all kinds of stuff seems to be possible but they cut around those esoteric sciences. And Riel let me ask you a bit about your input into The Generation Zed channel? I've watched a few of your videos but But I didn't realize you'd be joining us until the last minute. I know you've headed up the Secret Teachings of All Ages series, which I think you have four now. Talk to us a bit about that and the other areas of research that you tend to be most interested in? Well thank you so much for the question. Yeah Dave great answer there!

13:01 The intention that I've got with going through the secret teachings of all ages to our audience, which is an encyclopedic outline of Masonic Hermetic Kabbalistic and Rasikrushan Symbolical Philosophy is because my intention is to lay the foundation of understanding what the ancients taught in the mystery schools. To help us understand what I perceive as a clear paradigm shift with the academic scientific community. It seems like science is catching up to the ancient mystery schools and in order for everybody to kind of be on the same page and understand the kinds of concepts that Dave is trying to explain with electrogravitics, and even the work of Dan Winter with all his plasma physics I'm just trying to lay out a foundation

13:51 I am learning myself as we go along with this because i am no scholar. I'm still pretty new to this, I just have a lot of eagerness to learn and try to guide others through this paradigm shift or going through but overall my perspective on how the research has changed is to go from funny lizard people running the world, sometimes they drink blood of children and all that to actually seeing the academic papers studying Adrenochrome. And actually looking into what the academic world has actually shown us but instead of publicizing what they're talking about, they suppress it through Dave I believe it's called The Disk Theory right? As Mr Weinstein talks about

14:38 Yes, distributed idea suppression complex. Not that there is some grand conspiracy constantly of you know 5 10 15 people in a room mudding their hands together laughing although sometimes allegedly that is the case but that there is an overall we could say this goes back to that concept of thought forms and overall energy if you will an overall sense of presence that a particular narrative or a wink-wink nudge-nudge agenda needs to continue to be forth brought and carried on with Mm-hmm. Yeah, and just to conclude with this answer I've always been passionate about the conspiracies the UFOs life beyond the physical plane The idea of higher dimensional beings all of that stuff That is relatively woo-woo But it seems that to go along with the UFO disclosure campaign or seems more of a psychological operation

15:33 I want to not just follow what UFO Twitter is saying about these things, but actually look at the hard evidence and actually understand the science and the physics of what we're on the verge of doing. And another thing that Generation Z does is we have a segment called Unleashing The Kraken where we are basically auditing the mainstream news so So we're educating our audience on what the news is telling us from various outlets all over the world, but we're putting angles on it and perspectives to provide context so that For example, when we see an article that says the Queen of England visited Canada 22 times in her lifetime. It's like okay That's a neat story But what is the news actually trying to tell us? What intention do they have with the thought forms that were putting by reading the news well What significant about the number 22? That's how many paths there are in the Kabbalistic tree of life So they're not just talking about the queen visiting Canada but they're trying to plant these seeds in our consciousness and

16:35 And instead of just mindlessly following along with what they're telling us, we're trying to provide some critical thoughts and context to break down the matrix that has been set up for us. If I may add to what Riel said so eloquently there thank you Riel also something that we've covered moreso on our member side if you will is that there are certain things i will say to Greg you in your audience that i don't particularly divulge publicly too often but there was a discovery And for anyone willing to reach out, I have all the data to substantiate this. A discovery between Harvard and MIT shortly after World War II which found that human behavior whether it's one person whether it's a group of people whether it's a tribe whether it's a whole country whether it's even a planet because again this idea of you know whether its big or small doesn't matter but human behavior can be modeled by electrical inductance and capacitance

17:30 So can a human economy. So can human moods. When we apply that same concept to this idea that some have proposed, I'm not saying this is the end-all be all Far from but some have proposed you know alchemy and which is back in the day that we was a very particular form of electromagnetic inductive currents, you know the pyramids were tipped with copper and gold so where these witches wands in all of this it makes you think that when you look at the overall concept of why and how as we covered on our show MIT and Harvard did not divulge this. It's interesting because its like okay well if the electric universe theory is so nonsense has many top-level scientists

18:10 arguably, potentially detractors for larger intelligence purposes might say then why is this a discovery that has not been divulged if it's not that big of deal? So you can't have your cake and eat it too. You see what I'm saying Greg so I look at this and think to myself okay If there's nothing there then for example why did the Thomas Townsend Brown effect The Byfield-Brown effect in the 50s or 60s Why did that get classified pertaining to anti-gravitics. Why was there seemingly an attempt in the, actually throughout the entire course of the 1990s, to bring some of this tech forward? Eugene Podkletnoff, Ning Li a handful of others as Douglas G. Torr and then all of a sudden it was suppressed

18:53 It's almost like there are factions behind the scenes, some in which may not in fact be physical but more so energetic that in fact are still hashing it out if you will. Now I do want to say before wrapping this answer up that we do cover as well on our members side the different Let's just say we've obtained a lot of things that we probably, you know, a lot of people probably shouldn't be sitting on from the dark web from servers and all of this. But we do dive into it because if we don't Greg then who will? That's our perspective so... Right right I like it and I was gonna ask you a little bit more about the dark web overall because

19:30 It drifts further and further into the background. You know, people used to talk about it a lot more than they do now I think but there is a lot of document sharing and deep research going on and as you said this is how you get some of your material but talk to us a bit about what people experience when logging into the Onion router these days and peeking around on the dark web Sure, I will tell you that with the utmost kindness and respect to you in your audience. I do not mean to fear monger here But it is kind of like if one does not know what they're doing in this particular regard It's kind of like being thrown a

20:11 a gun, a helmet and you know, a magazine of bullets metaphorically and being thrown on the battlefield when you've never trained before. You know? And kind of like okay here time to go to war situation. You do have that feeling in particularly given the fact that everything's much more digitized these days, credit cards all of that...You do want to make sure that the device you're using in things like this are separate from all of that but when you get into it, you open up the Tor browser or the Onion I will say that, I'll cut to the chase. There seemingly has been a wipe if you will probably military intelligence...I don't know who else could pull it off maybe through a third party you name it but A wipe on the dark web over the past year or two years on a lot of information yes One thing I found though more often is that believe it or not I've been communicating with a lot more of my sources since we last spoke Greg

21:03 develop some sources within Department of Energy, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, some DIA and elsewhere. And we do communicate on there quite often I will say that with that said though it is like the Wild West could you get anything that is claimed you can order? Yes for respect and to you in your audience I won't go into details but Could you also find a lot of documents that you cannot find on the European Western surface level of the internet? Absolutely. And I've fallen for it too, I've had a couple burner laptops literally burned out myself because i made just the wrong click You do have to be careful but once you have a sense of how and what to navigate where to navigate things become a little bit easier now I don't mean to encourage that

21:48 For you or your audience, I don't mean to make anyone feel pressured but for those that ask and are curious That's usually how it goes It's like surfing, you don't know if you're gonna catch a nice big wave that day or if it's gonna be nice and little more relaxed. Right on I like the analogy and let me ask about the insights from some of these sources what have they been telling you about the goings-on in the deep corporate contractor nexus that we talk so much about? Sure, actually a lot of sources have told me unfortunately I can't divulge their names or identities but they have told me

22:25 that some of them mid-level, some of them high level have said relative to their positions and all of that the intelligence world seems to be a litmus test for a lot of what the phenomenon is. Now we say the phenomena... That could be UAP, that could be paranormal occult probably all merged into one I believe that..I don't say this as a cop out answer but i believe you can check that All The Above box Because I'm being told Dave it's what Shakespeare said back in the day, which is that even your most wildest imaginations cannot envision or Attempt to describe what this is and I said okay? Well you know What do you mean by that and we delve into this on our show as well And the one source says to me. This is many many months ago Dave Let me just put it to very simply he said this source says to me look around you I said okay

23:12 He goes, what are you looking at? I said okay my clothing shelf. He goes alright is everything around you not a right angle and i said oh shit! I said everywhere we look is a right angle, a 90 degree right angle almost as if there was some type of dare I say Euclidean vector simulation archetype blueprint underneath us that has been imposed that our subconscious, we could say acts as the metaphorical frame of that bed or mattress on. And so long as we continue to go into those lines for that iPhone, as I brought up earlier... We are subconsciously and arguably electrically feeding that you could say consensus reality or consensus harmonics These individuals within the intelligence community have said to me Dave For example That is the least of it So just to give you an idea

24:06 Hmm. Well, that's interesting because now we're in it because with this everything is a right angle thing I've had that expressed as our conic thinking that when you're inspired by kind of these mind parasites, yes. Things turn into grids in the city. Things turn into blocks for houses because they're just... That's the way they think. They're not creative in a sense. They just kind of push through and that's their influence. It's very dull really when you get into it but nature on the other hand there are really no right angles nature is flowing rivers and waterfalls and really

24:47 wild geometric patterns and the phi ratio encoded in everything as opposed to just straight right angles. It almost seems like that's kindergarten stuff by comparison, but yes that seems to be the inspired thinking of these control obsessed mental parasites. And this kind of relates to one of the videos you had sent me as something, you considered one of your best as of late but it was called Dimaxian findings analyzing the time cube obsidian comms and Nero diversive portal zip ups. Yes sir! This gets into

25:25 Dye Maxian map, also known as a fuller map because it was a project of Buckminster Fuller. Which is kind of like a icosa hedron or a dodecahedron? I think it's icosadodecaedron Fair! There you go. I'll just let you sit but for people who are thinking of a visual It's kind of like 20 sided dye from dnd. It's one of the platonic solids You know when you get up into those upper sided platonic solids, they look more and more spherical but they still have angles to them like a soccer ball. Like a more complex soccer ball. Yes sir! And when you look at this Dymaxion map it is that structure unfolded flat so many triangle pieces like a diorama before it's all put together and

26:17 It kind of suggests that maybe the Earth is not necessarily round. It is a dodecahedron or an icosadodecahedron when you get down to it from a certain scale, it looks round but it might be more of an actual platonic solid and that might be pretty significant when we're talking about the thought matrix why they encode certain numbers into news stories. It's all about keeping this holographic reality intact or keeping it within the parameters that they want it to be in is that fair to say?

26:55 Greg brother you've hit on my heartstrings I would like to let real jump in after i bring this up if you look would like real i know this is also he has his own take on this as well, i cannot agree more with you and if i may say this actually for yourself and your audience that may not be familiar this ties indirectly with something else that another intelligence official told me off the record which is that again And other journalists and I don't consider myself one but there are mainstream journalists that are being told this as well to be clear that. anti-gravity is a lot easier to crack than people think. It's literally right in front of our faces, it just has to do with the propaganda and mental indoctrination of academia that makes us go no that can't be possible or not realize how simple it is and I bring that up in relation with the Dymaxion findings Greg because

27:47 What I'm being told in addition to some of my own work and studies as well, like plan to start publishing some you could say white papers and all that when our website is up. This idea that whatever you want to call it, the vacuum, the super force, the zero-point energy. Even dare I say this is no disrespect anyone with religious beliefs but you know The Bible called it the Holy Spirit What we're seeing here Greg in my humble perspective Is the underlying You could say foundation of what comprises not just our reality But how we view our reality and so let me give you an example To me personally I think we are living within a complex

28:27 topologically oriented concave planet, if you will. And the reason I say that Greg is because... Say for example You're sitting where you are or even your audience where they're sitting there driving they're at home listening to this I respectfully ask your audience to look the farthest distance you can from where you are whether in your bedroom at work you name it The farther you look The more flat that particular item object even person becomes now as you walk closer To that person, object that you're looking at the more interactable it becomes. The more depth it has. Dare I say that is what these UAPs, that is what these non-material beings whether paranormal occult or otherwise are harnessing they're harnessing a sense of perception that has to do with light sound

29:18 you know, harmonics and frequencies. And I don't mean to be overly vague but I very kindly would like your audience to think about that Think about the farthest point in which you're looking and then try as you approach it It gains more depth it becomes more interactable This is what these UAP in my humble opinion and these paranormal beings are harnessing because it is the same underlying energy that they're all accessing. Now how they access it, you can do that organically or you can do that in the nuts and bolts way in which we generally call anti-gravity And to sort of wrap this up if Riel would like to jump on this if he wishes

29:56 Think of all given example for the women of your audience greg think about. I had no for lunch or dinner with some of your lady friends and you have your purse with you in all this, can you say oh my gosh i forgot my wallet in my bedroom at home you unzip your purse you reach her hand into the purse but your hand once you get to a certain point in the purse Is now back in your bedroom at the house grabbing the wallet so as you look in your purse you actually see a bit of your bedroom that is what this type of you could say anti-gravitic technology in addition to.

30:31 You could say, you know zero point all of that. That's what it entails dare I say that is what seems to be our ancestors have discovered time and time again and One last example we see the tuning forks of the ancient times for example that they could cut through rock like a knife through butter Well, we look for example at an academic paper by Charles Lieber from 20 I think 13 quite some years ago They talk about a quote-unquote innovative new nano combing technique And I won't go into details, but it talks about the same electromagnetically induced principles that these tuning forks used. So in other words my long point here is that we are a species in my humble perspective rediscovering the same general technologies spiritual forms of enlightenment of awakening you name it and when someone for example realizes this idea of rebirth or knowing thyself

31:27 Putting the occult angles aside for a moment, this concept of understanding that you are the center of your reality. It's because your belief becomes your reality via that intent just like when you were in line at that Apple store Your intent was set to picking up that iPhone So forgive me for the long-winded answer but I appreciate you asking it in that regard Sure Real what do you think about all this? Right on. Well, I actually sometimes just really enjoy listening to Dave talk because sometimes the terms like having to take notes even though I'm his research partner, I still have to take notes on some of the things that he says like for example, the Euclidean vector simulation is imposed over us so Greg that's consistent with what you're saying about the idea that it's almost like there's a secondary reality that is overlaid with us that is kind of The Matrix

32:25 It's almost as if there is the demiurge from the Archons created some sort of artificial reality using potentially some celestial objects that we think of as planets like Saturn and the Moon, and are using this to kind of keep us frequently or energetically suppressed. And it's keeping us in this Euclidean frame of reference that's limiting us to only see 90 degrees of the 360 degree dodecahedron And I think that actually mainstream science now recognizes that the universe is actually the shape of a dodecahedron. That's actually one of the most cutting-edge revelations from the world of physics, but it's hard to kind of

33:11 contribute more than what Dave has said, but I can only really echo what you guys are both saying. But I did want to just backtrack a little bit to the concept of the dark web with deep research how it seems like there's information being wiped out so if that dark web itself is being wiped out imagine what the mainstream is wiping from their own archives right? Like how many times have you done a presentation and then the next day or even In real time, this has happened to me where the website suddenly disappears. That's to me much more alarming than the dark web being wiped because that's kind of already its area well you have to be properly armed and equipped as you've metaphorically said

34:00 But if we're just trying to see what's going on in Ukraine, for example. And then here where I am in Canada, I'm not allowed to access information that contradicts what the official government narrative is. To me that's actually much more alarming." If I may Greg, if I may add to what Riel said there. I want to actually bring up something pertaining to this concept of dare-I say manifestation and there's been a lot of talk lately about you know a reality split You know the 5D... The fifth dimension is going to merge with this one but only for those that are open to it And then others will be in the previous version of Earth if you will There has been a lot of whether its worded that way or otherwise Yeah

34:42 When people say, for example, whether it's politics in a push-pull duopoly sort of sense of you know it's either one or the other. Whether its the media with respect to driving ones emotion to make a decision very quickly well hold on a second I would say your audience First and foremost, if the media is pushing the average person to make such a decision so quickly and so emotionally why does that go against everything that the intelligence community does? Which is you need to take the data absorb the data take the time to interpret the data many people have different interpretations of that data. And then we act on it according to the most appropriate decision within the context of the environment Why is it that the media's not conveying that to us

35:26 I think personally if it's worthy of news, it's not going to be something that'll last for you know 5-10 minutes If that and then you don't hear about it ever again. And I say this because ultimately I think this goes back to the Electrical inductance and capacitance of human behavior This idea that when you look at the fact that we need to be emotionally dare I say stimulated which drives our action It's sort of a quick cheating type way if you will, like getting a dog to chase its tail unfortunately. And that is when the indoctrination comes in but I bring all of this up Greg because

36:02 When we think about this idea of you know again Ukraine and all of that or even dare I say, you know 9-11 And in all of that some people say well 9 11 it didn't happen others Say no It did happen and I bring this up because the science that I've been studying lately seems to allude to the fact that from a psychotronic perspective Both but neither occurred. And I say this not to give a cop out answer not to sound all woo and esoteric It truly depends on where one you could say was not just physically and geographically, but where they were spiritually mentally and internally in many different ways relative to their nervous system which sends electric pulses an all of this.

36:45 relative to the time of that event. I say this because if we look at quantum physics and they talk about how, you know, quantum physics shows through the dual slit experiment that reality is only as quote-unquote real as the individual observing it well then okay could we not state for example that on that premise one's belief becomes one's reality? And then if we take that even further, and we consider the idea of let's say the media plants a false story. That is not real whatsoever in the physical sense of it being real but in the media's eyes It doesn't matter If its physically real or not, if enough people believe in it they will act on it So it gives it that life if you will which goes back to going in line in that Apple store again and finally if I may say

37:33 this talk of that split with the fifth dimension and all of this, for those that say... And I don't mean to sound conceited here. Forgive me if i do but for those that say well you know how could there be a split Mr Zed because I certainly don't see it? With the utmost respect I'm of the humble opinion by definition that is the split You can't have one without the other. And that speaks to the duality of life, also perhaps even Roger Penrose's collapsing the wave finding the balance between the two If you take someone who has never been... Try explaining water The color of it how it feels To someone who has never experienced seen touched or anything like this Try taking someone who has never been to a house party

38:16 and put them in a house party, how will they know they're having a good time if they've never had a bad one? Whether they are consciously aware of that or not. There needs to be another pillar to compare it too so when people say for example well you know I've seen no evidence of UAP or even no evidence of occult Bigfoot or anything like this well my whole thing is Do we know even what to focally compare it to? What's the pillar or focal point, or data point that we can compare it to. We have not been given one by the system were in almost as if thats deliberate So, thanks for letting me ramble on again.

39:12 energy management program that obviously, that's what the media is there for. It injects fear you can even say weather weapons if they're developed then it's just to create destruction every so often like a clock its like well at that time again we gotta keep the energy level down We got to cause some depression out there cause them fear right I mean a debt based currency even The creation of that They say its quite occult Well, what does it do? But it takes a world of abundance and beauty and makes everything like you can't access that without this green paper which is scarce but you must get

39:50 Give years of your life away for right and it's an artificial barrier. But to me this all speaks to a global energy management program, keep us from manifesting a better reality and to keep us in those lower vibrations but While we still are in the first hour, I wanted to ask you guys about the black goo. Obviously this is a real buzzword in the conspiracy sphere and you have some videos where this does pop up it seems like its something that's alive It seems like maybe an artifact of an alien race What can you tell us about this strange substance? How it might be used and where it might've came from if it's even one thing

40:34 Sure i think ultimately what we're seeing is and I will cut right to the chase with respects to this. I think we have the origins of a non maybe not terrestrial but not human black goo, reverse engineering in the human ingenuity side of the black who and i don't particularly say that in a positive manner i think what were seen here with respect to black who is a multi-purpose I guess you could call it, for lack of a better term probe of sorts. For various reasons whether that is to observe whether that is too dare I say even you know probe human weather that is too carry certain forms

41:16 energies in a frequential sense contained within it to then transmit elsewhere. This is something that I don't particularly think is anything new, I don't necessarily hold the perspective that it is and I'm very careful with this word but a conscious form of life if you will? And I say that because consciousness means one thing to a neurologist, it mean another thing to a physicist, it means another thing to a psychologist so I don't wanna Bar none said and done, that's what it is. But I think what we're seeing there is... Honestly Greg, I think it is a tool. I think what it comes down to who was behind that tool.

41:54 Truth be told, I think just like many things in this reality and elsewhere a tool simply is. It comes down to what does the holder and user of that particular resource or tool do with it? And i think what we're seeing there is the adjustment whether technologically or otherwise of both human manipulated human originally human created technology in correspondence with potential collaboration of other non-human groups whether those non-human groups are You know, their origin is of Earth or otherwise. Not for me to say but that's where I reside with respects to Black Goo right now. I will say though and could be proven wrong

42:33 Part of what we do on our member side with our zoom calls and our think tank calls and all of this is to debate these things Because who am I to say but? I think that right now it is not conscious in the way that. We are mm-hmm That's the most I can go without because then after that, I'm just spitballing so I'm sure sure It just kind of seems like it's uh it's some kind of artifact it seems like it's a self programming or programmable form of matter to a degree I Bring it up because of course Colin Wilson as you've noted in one of your videos He felt his whole home was ingrained with this Programmable matter right black goo because he knew too much. Maybe it's some kind of surveillance tool Probably can be used for many different things, I don't rule that yeah

43:23 Yes, well I also wanted to mention that an interviewee of Linda Moulton Howell said when they were examining a craft upon closer inspection we began to learn that the metal of the craft was actually one big holographic computational substrate. Each computational unit essentially individual particles she says in parentheses can function independently but are designed to function together in tremendously large clusters. I say it's holographic because you can divide it up to any size you want and still find scaled down but complete representations of the whole system

44:02 And the reason why I find it so interesting is it seems to be part of that overlap between the occult and the sci-fi aspects. Of what all this stuff is are aliens, demons in a physical? form or are they from Zeta Reticuli? That whole debate. Well, the black goo seems to be this in-between substance that shouldn't be here and maybe came from somewhere else came from a different dimension or different planet but Real you were going to say something Yeah, well so just turns out that I spent two hours watching specific Black Goo documentaries this morning before recording and one of them was featured by Harold Klaus Vowla. Not too sure if you're familiar with his work but he is a jerk. Oh fantastic right

44:52 Right. So according to him, the Black Gu is an alien system delivery system field of planetary consciousness. So the Black Gu is essentially an artificial intelligence consciousness that came here from you know I would suspect came from the Orion constellation based off of the work of Pierre Sabac and Neil Haig who speculate that the holographic reality, that is the second overlay of our reality is being projected from Orion and then it goes to Saturn goes to the Moon and then comes onto our Earth but the black goose substance itself is the conduit for how this artificial intelligence basically encapsulates and creates this lower vibratory overlay of our experience here

45:44 And it seems like the black goo is directly connected to the Kaaba stone, the Benben Stone. All of these ancient occult litho... I believe that worshipping stone is litholatry. So, I'm actually exploring litholatry now in secret teachings of all ages and it seems like there's the organic litholatry but then there's this artificial intelligence litholatry which has brought many Abrahamic religions not to you know throw religion under the bus but the whole concept of worshiping this giant black cube at Mecca

46:22 I think is directly connected to the effect that the black goo has on us as humanity. If I may jump in very quickly with respects to, I really appreciate both Rielle you bringing all of this up and Greg you talking about how Linda Moulton Howe's source was telling her that essentially... And this also speaks to others that have spoken about being part of alleged reverse engineering programs legacy programs it's been called in recent decades This idea that no matter how much of the craft you chopped up, whether with a saw or you name it. Upon closer inspection it was a fractal representation of the rest I cannot help but think about couple different things First and foremost its been alleged that inside the human mind with respect to the pineal gland

47:08 and the way that the human mind accesses the pineal gland through electrical impulses is the same way in which the earth operates, in that same regard. Which speaks to you could say fractality but I also think it speaks to this idea of quantum non-locality Now I want to see very quickly that... To everyone that.. And I'm with your audience for those that say oh my god he's bringing up the word quantum what does that even mean because its thrown around so much? I am full agreement there I think what we're seeing ultimately is the concept of a information structure that we are residing in, dare I say, a little bit of actual quote-unquote tangible reality mixed in with

47:48 You could say electric universe simulation type induction that has been put underneath us, that our subconscious then fuels. And I say this because of... for example we can look at Jair Rivera PhD on the holofractal morphogenetic Constance of life if you will he brings up the cabal these are academic papers that are just now beginning to sort of hit the surface, that once were you could say restricted classified on your department of energy servers and i bring all this up because I want to respectfully reinvigorate the concept of fractality in fractals.

48:24 The same way you, for example drop a rock into a pond and it ripples. You see the water waves ripple and the waves broaden the further away it gets from the source of the rock This is what I think a lot of people discuss when they say whether its anti-gravity or black goo The answer is right in front us in nature In the sense that harnessing a few different components that require us to understand this more, but we simply don't because This is where the indoctrination and propaganda comes in. We've just been taught our whole lives Oh no That's nonsense forget about it Don't worry about it case in point anyone who seems to come close to cracking anti-gravity Generally speaking the announcements are made more so in Eastern Europe formerly you know Soviet Union than other parts of Europe in the West

49:12 academic papers in which are published. that talk about how they did it and whether it's on the theoretical side or in the laboratory engineering. Those methods, Greg are never actually disproven The equations are never disproven The engineering aspect is never disproven The experiments are never replicated to show they don't work but rather just the scientists themselves who make the announcements get attacked I think that speaks to a control system That dare I say to bring this full circle This black goo neurologically keeps in place amongst many other variables.

49:49 Dave, that's like how the fact checkers if you have something that clearly cannot be disproven and it goes against the narrative they have adjusted their language to now say its missing context. So its like the scientific breakthrough discoveries aren't wrong but they're just missing context and are misleading or something like that so it is very interesting how they can always spin it just to keep you energetically enslaved. And like Greg, I totally agree with you with what you're saying about collective energy management that goes in the idea that we're living in a terrarium that we are genetic experiments and there's these higher conscious beings that are basically... You know? That there is..I would love if we could get into the different layers of who is the management on our plane or planet whatever you want to call it. Yeah!

50:40 Me as well and great points guys. You know I even thought the difference between the black cube and the black goo could really just be charged because from what I've heard from people who have seen that meta material That the invisible college seems to have gotten their hands on from UFO or something is that it It can be rigid with the right charge, but it can also be very fluid. And I'm lucky enough to have seen a picture of this from a previous guest obviously i cant say who or can ever show the picture but it looks kinda like metal quartz crystal which is another thing that you've talked about that quartz the way it grows it kind of speaks to this platonic solid

51:26 reality these kind of angles and everything and you included in one of your videos a 1927 issue of science and invention journal which had an article about a device called a gravitation nullifier by a doctor Kowski and he said you could blast certain frequencies at a big piece of quartz crystal And it would lose its weight to quote what he said and that gets into the idea that yeah, everything is somewhat holographic that geometry is super key that frequency is super key and that these stories of

52:05 ancient levitating giant blocks i mean there seems to be a up iso teric or natural science to it. I wanna thank you so much for bringing that upgrade truly because when we look for example at okay so let me give a couple different examples your audience so we have the nineteen twenty seven their electrical experimenter journal in which nullifying gravity was published Well, initially actually was published in 1919 and then it was republished again I think in the British Royal Society proceedings. But I could be wrong about that however within the span of just under a decade It had some just like in the 90's with Mr Eugene Podkletnoff Ning Li and all of that you had some announcements And then the university would pull back the announcement and then you know premature we made a mistake We're sorry yada yada

52:53 What's interesting about all this great is we can debate the controversy of anti gravity and all of this but what's interesting if if we look outside, i guess you know as a single think outside the box in play within it. If we take that perspective review it in that regard will find his weather it's science news daily whether its fizz dot org whether it's you know many journals these days, particularly phys.org and some other outlets have published a quote-unquote mysterious quantum spin having to do with quartz crystals now what's interesting about this is that it is according to them a phenomena mysteriously that they can't explain almost as if they deliberately butchered

53:36 the understanding of it many decades ago, shortly after World War II to ensure that the public academic community wouldn't get a hold of it because of how dare I say simple it is to activate this zero-point underlying energy. Now, I say this because when you look at this article—this quantum spin article You'll find that the ones who did the experiments were based out of Princeton University. Princeton University received the funds from The National Science Foundation in direct correspondence and collaboration with The Department Of Energy What I'm speaking to here is a control system

54:15 of funds, of who gets the money? Who gets the funds to be able to do these experiments. If someone is funded and if they receive these funds and they conduct an experiment that is maybe not in favor of this DISC, this Distributive Idea Suppression Complex conglomerate then, oh what do you know next year next quarter they're not getting their funding. You see what I'm saying guys? So this is where when i look at this from the outside in... ...I think why is it that these academics can publish in their papers the theoretical side of things but they speak on it as if its fact as if they saw it in a laboratory occur in real time! For example people talk about pulling energy from

54:57 A wall or an outlet if you will. Well, what's interesting about that is you look at Richard Feynman one of the most respected academics who has passed away unfortunately. Richard Feynman himself has said if you really look at the problem we don't know what energy is, we do not know what electricity is when you charge a capacitor the energy comes from outside comes in through the edges of the gap of the capacitor Not the actual part in which you're charging and sticking that charger with so what I'm trying to essentially say is there clearly is a strict Rigid control system that sometimes. There's a slip don't get me wrong You know you got University of South Carolina announced in late 90s anti-gravity device developed, and then it was immediately retracted

55:42 So clearly there's something there with respects to these underlying powers if you will. And the way in which, again Riel brought up all these different who is running the system if you want to call it? What I've just described to you and your audience Greg in my humble perspective is just the human side of the system. Now, let's bring things full circle does the black goo do these neurological form constants relative to the you could say electrical inductance and capacitance of human movement play a part in this? Absolutely! I think it's just like any other variable. I think it's just like any other set of variables now ultimately I think it's not human that is ultimately running the show that is ensuring

56:22 that the humans, if you will on the surface at least don't discover this if you want to call it. And anyone who any scientist who's ever come across or developed any type of weight reduction whether its with quartz crystals whether it's with any other type of you know Ning-Li's from popular mechanics since retracted article 1999 high temperature superconducting disk again you'll find that for example It all has to do with very basic principles of what the ancients called alchemy. So it's interesting to see that there is this type of control system and we, you know as Paul LaViolette reached out to NASA many decades ago saying hey I found this Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Electro Gravitics package What's going on over there? NASA responds with, I'm paraphrasing here We know about it but it's not useful Don't worry thank you Mr. LaViolette Thank you for letting us know

57:15 Okay, hold on a second. Again it goes back to this almost deliberate obfuscation. Yes yes I like it! Great summary and before I let you go...I know you got a few more projects in the works there are some trailers for projects that haven't come out what should people expect you guys to be working on next? Oh, thank you so much Greg truly for asking that. I will admit for those that are on the public side of the show on our Generation Z channel we do try and keep it as exciting as we can but there comes a point where we have to take it to the members' side and the reason for that is because essentially the projects in which were currently pursuing and trailers in which we have some upcoming series and all of that do require funds needed in order to develop the tier of quality we would like now with that said though

58:06 We're working on some pretty exciting stuff that i guess you could say hopefully will be paradigm shifting and groundbreaking in this is what you and your audience will see in the coming weeks and months from us was not anything that has not been attempted previously it's more so how we are attempting to do with this time around. And by keeping the topic public in a particular fashion that may hopefully stick this time around. We'll see, but... Well I'm lucky to know what you're talking about even though you're being a bit coy on the record here and it's all good but it is exciting and its one of the threads I am always following so people can maybe read between the lines there but either way they can stay tuned and make sure they have all the right links

58:53 before I cut you loose. I do want to say we do have one more, I guess you could say project that I can definitely delve into much more which may or may not have to do with a website of sorts that will be going live in the coming weeks if not days at this point. But if I may Greg maybe if I could throw that URL and when it does go live afterwards but other than that that's about it basically. Cool cool! Rial do you have your own social media anything you wanna throw out there?

59:37 No, for the most part I'm a Luddite when it comes to that. Good! And I let Dave handle most of those things. I am active in the Telegram group chats for our members though. I do communicate a lot with mostly the members as well as hosting the Zoom calls two or three times a week but I don't really participate in the social media side of life. I prefer to spend my time outside when I'm not focused on doing research Amen. Well, I'm lucky to have met the man behind the curtain! And if I... Sorry one last thing Greg if I may say for those that may be wondering or hesitating you know what's on the Patreon we have a handful of different tiers four eight and twelve dollars a month there is a higher one as well but the four eight dollars a month essentially what you get there is we have all kinds of things members only series members-only episodes we do two to three sometimes even four times a week group zoom calls that go

1:00:31 anywhere from one to three, even four hours sometimes where we try and merge all these different aspects like we discussed. Dark web findings that I never post publicly again private telegram discord chats and all of this as well as some I guess you could say some very, very deep diving members episodes that I'll never take public just because it's so... It's potentially, so potentially dare I say amongst what other podcasters do too to be fair dangerous. But and I must say Gregg, you yourself have had some incredible conversations where and I tip my hat off to you where I've said holy shit this guy is taking a risk but I respect it and I appreciate it. So thank you! Thank you! Yeah man well

1:01:14 Right on, this has been a real pleasure. It's certainly a weird world out there but keep doing what you guys do best of luck and take care Thank you so much Greg The power of Christ compels ya people! Round 2 with the ever interesting Dave Zedd and Riel his main co-pilot to Conspiracy Town I didn't know Rial was going to be joining us until the morning of, but i'm glad he did. He added a lot to the discussion and we can chalk up another two guest THC on the board! And we've been racking up quite a few lately But a lot of good stuff made its way into this one The Dymaxion map is pretty cool Maybe the earth is more like a 20-sided die Or maybe what we're talking about is the latticework of the ley lines that Earth energy runs through

1:02:05 If you look at the Dymaxion map unfolded, some call it the one island map because from this perspective almost all of the Earth's land masses are connected in a way that you don't think about when looking at a typical globe. We think west over here east over there but when it is unfolded to look at the land across the poles I guess its kind hard to describe unless your going to look up It is significantly different And maybe it's not even the shape of the Earth, but just the structure of the universe itself. Who really knows? But even if you just think of it as the energy structure and the idea of special angles opening up portals to other places... It might be why ancient structures are built on specific places or why the most notorious secret society uses a square and compass is their major symbol!

1:02:57 But you know there are some THC episodes that are super information dense like the last one with Whitney Webb and then there are ones like today where I just had fun. These guys are a lot of fun it reminds me of what a THC meetup is probably like, There are folks i've met like the guy who did the rap on my car and you get into talking and it's like okay well have you gone this deep? Oh yeah! Well have you gone this steep?! And it's a little back-and-forth pushing the envelope until you're just like, all right man respect. And I envy you folks out there that can even enjoy a THC meetup in the way that i never can because I'm The Conspiracy Podcast King of San Diego and that's just my burden in life it's like the old song the worst part about being Tom Cruise is being the only man on earth who can't enjoy Tom Cruise pretty much the same thing right

1:03:50 But I liked it. I'd say this one pairs nicely with Jason Beshears and some of the secret science, anti-gravitic stuff pairs nicely with Aaron Murakami And maybe some of the angels angle Secret Society stuff even could pair with some of Tracy Twyman's Wilder work We even had a reference of Pierre Sabac who was on Not Too Long Ago Obviously Dan Winter came up too as well as Harold Koutsvella which was a helluva throwback So, a lot of good stuff. The hand in the purse bedroom thing was odd but the arconic energy prison overlap is right up my alley so hope you dug it! Big thanks to Dave and Riel for doing it their content is pretty captivating I'm sure our audiences have a good amount of overlap I did kind of butcher the Myth of Cadmus connection to Roswell that Chris Knowles has done so much work on

1:04:44 Apparently Cadmus is connected to the Well of Mars, or The Red Well. And a quote from his piece on this he says let's just be absolutely clear on this Cadmus and Lucient are the same word Lucient Technologies was said to have received secret technology from the beings who crashed from the sky at Roswell Cadmus was said to have received secret knowledge from the beings who crashed from the sky at Samothrace And then yes, Cadmus is also connected to the Mars Well. And there's a lot more I would just point you to the Secret Sun blog and search for Cadmus but The Mythology of the Roswell Crash mirrors The Mythology of Cadmus and that is just weird! Random events shouldn't rhyme like that unless of course they're not random but ritualized

1:05:36 And we got into a little of the Black Goo talk in the first hour as well. Good stuff for plus people or those who wish to become plus people there is a second hour as always and today, We talked about who really runs the layers of reality? Who is the quote-unquote management I wanted to slide that into the first hour but it was a back and forth that went on for kind of too long for that but we also talked about angular portals and the angels who use them, the connection between Roswell and COVID. Why was the UFO countdown in the COVID relief bill? Who knows! We talked about offerings in the gifting field and advanced technology The very wild year of 1947 The important sites that sit on the vortices of the Dymaxion map nuclear sites and whatnot

1:06:27 We got into the esoteric aspects of the jab, the connection between hydrogen and adrenochrome. The Generation Z Veda Austin interview and the mysteries of water Good times overall if you liked what they brought to the table check out more Generations that it gets pretty wild And let's take a peek at the THC meetup calendar at highersidemeetups.com before I ramble on too long Looks like the last thing for October on the 29th is the Philadelphia Clark Park meetup in Clark Park. This is the second time they've done it, so must have gone alright the first time I also see the LA Truthers meeting at Flame International Restaurant again on Santa Monica Boulevard this is the second or third time for them as well and then November 5th the Conspiracy Theorizers at High Springs Brewing Company this is their 3rd meetup So I like that some of these are recurring

1:07:24 Very cool to see. Find the others and enrich your life, don't just wonder if you live near people who think like you do Know they are out there and use this to find them But that's it for me Try not to get sucked into the fear vibration because it is vibrating quite hard these days So many stories pushing us towards World War 3 Deeper conflict than ever There are a handful of previous guests who want to come on and give me their take about this conflict with Russia, and I'm not quite sure if I want to do those shows or at least not yet. It just seems premature but we shall see. We also got these stories of a more deadly COVID being developed God knows why! I like a lot of you are even questioning that paradigm but who really knows what's real anymore?

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