William Brown | Quantum Biology, Viruses, Panspermia, & Alien Engineered DNA

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00:51 Which means you'll unfortunately never hear my voice again. Allllright Hiresight Chatters just trying to stay sane in this mad world. From sunny San Diego, I'm Greg Carlwood and we've talked to many guests about how the leading theories and scientific paradigms are so rooted in this materialism model that they just can't be accurate because we know there are realms fields and forces beyond just what we can see Consciousness is not just an illusion of the brain Ether is not just a fun word And magic is very much real

01:57 Well, when it comes to exciting internally consistent models that incorporate such things there are many bright minds circling around similar ideas but one that's been intriguing to me is the holofractographic unified field theory of Nassim Haramein and the wide-reaching work of The Resonance Science Foundation. You might remember a provocative show we did with Nassim not long ago, but you should also be aware that during these quarantine times they've made Nassim's Unified Science course at the Resonance Academy completely free of charge. Just go to resonance-science dot org to sign up! And as any good model should, the hollow fractal paradigm elegantly blends science and spirituality—the principle of As Above So Below—and reframes many aspects of what we think we know in a much more holistic context. Given the current state of the world I figured it might be a good time to bring on The Resonance Science Foundation's main molecular biologist William Brown!

02:54 William has worked in numerous laboratories across the country and has an extensive background in genetic and neurobiological research and theory. He has a Bachelor's of Science degree in Cellular & Molecular Biology from Northern Arizona University, and a Master of Science degree in Applied Recumbent DNA Technology from New York University Not only does he have some intriguing things to say about the fingerprints of genetic manipulation in our alien-human hybrid DNA, but he also does some exciting work in applying holofractographic principles to biological systems which is just the sort of thing I thought we could use. So let's get into it! Solving the hard problems left by an incomplete scientific paradigm, The Alien DNA Decoder himself William Quantum Biology Brown Welcome to The Higher Side

03:43 Hi, thank you Greg. It's great to be on with you Yeah man thanks for doing this I have found a lot of your work really interesting and as i kind of mentioned there in the intro when you have a dominant scientific model that's inaccurate many of the ideas and theories that come out of it are going to be incorrect too and we have a world worried about viruses and catching this COVID-19 thing. And at a minimum, we have to rethink the petrochemical model to solving disease. Maybe it goes even deeper than that but to get the ball rolling here when I have a guest who's gone through years of study in the conventional system, I'm also curious where it is they realized something was off?

04:27 What can you say about your aha moment when did you realize mainstream biology was leaving a lot of important stuff off the table. Yeah it really was where are more materialistic theories, mechanistic theories behind biology were being presented. So early on in my undergraduate career I'm beginning to get into molecular biology and biochemistry learning how various enzymes and nanomachines of the body work and a predominant model represented at that time was such that

05:10 You know, you've got enzymes that catalyze reactions and you've got substrates that are what they act on to produce products. And that's what drives the metabolism of your cell or your body and everything from DNA replication and mitosis to make new cells and all of it. But you know, that was based on what is called like a lock-and-key mechanism. It is this idea that these are like billiard balls on a table and they're being struck randomly, and they're just kind of randomly bouncing around. And every now then you get the right substrate that hits the right enzyme, and when that happens the reaction takes place but that's completely random there is no orchestration to that or coordination to that at all

06:01 And also the recognition of that enzyme by the substrate. It just happens that the substrate hits at just right angle and just the right part so it's like a lock and key, but again its random orientation because there is only one or few orientations where that lock and key are going to fit together So, you know that was extremely problematic for me because if you take DNA replication the DNA polymerase enzyme that makes the new strand of DNA from a template strand it synthesizes 1000 nucleotides per second with an error rate like .01% or smaller.

06:54 it can put together a thousand nucleotides and there's four different nucleotides in one second. How is that occurring via random collision? Because even if you had where these nucleotides are randomly colliding with the polymerase enzymes, it has to be the right nucleotide of those 1 or 4 and has to be in the exact right orientation for that lock-and-key mechanism to work. And that just If you were to do the mathematics and, you know, the probabilities and statistics all of that it doesn't add up at all. It's impossible that that is happening via the paradigm that was being presented at that time Now...the problem with that paradigm is that its based on physics Newtonian physics Its basically a 400 year old model of physics You know? Its a little bit dated

07:54 It's not even caught up yet to 19th century physics with like Maxwell and electromagnetics, then 20th century physics with electrodynamics and quantum mechanics. That just doesn't even enter into the equation at all. You know it's a purely deterministic kind of Newtonian clockwork type model that doesn't explain the biodynamics at all. That was kind of the first ship in the armor, but then later on when I was doing research and investigations into genetics and neurobiology and neurogenetics... The state of affairs with explaining how DNA produces an organism going from genotype to phenotype that was completely unknown how that's occurring

08:53 and it's still largely unknown how that occurs. And then consciousness is probably the biggest one because there is no materialistic, mechanistic model that can explain the phenomenon of consciousness and certainly the predominant paradigm today—the neurocomputational model doesn't come anywhere close to explaining a hard problem Consciousness yeah that is a great breakdown of some of the major laws in our current paradigm and of course i'm no expert but i do try to tell people like if you look at the history, medicine it's really not that old and they were doing some pretty dark and twisted stuff in the early stages of medicine. And treating things that probably could have used a scalpel with a giant sledgehammer just

09:53 All kinds of mechanical kinds of ways of dealing with the body leaving out consciousness leaving out the holistic system. It's just bad philosophy applied to the body and we know now there is so many things about the body that do not jive with this conventional paradigm but in a time, panic like we've been in People divert to the experts or who they perceive as the experts and we end up with this draconian clampdown system based off. Really faulty understanding of the body and health and wellness so it is pretty wild and pretty pertinent to these times and,

10:30 I guess, of the alternatives available clearly you found Nassim's theory to be the best framework to work with. Can you talk about what you saw in it particularly in your areas of expertise that got you on board and working with the Resonance Science Foundation as opposed to some other alternative? Yeah, so by the time I was doing my PhD research which actually didn't complete a PhD. I did about two years before actually I joined Nassim because I saw there was better opportunity working with him and his theory to accomplish what I was thinking to do, you know synthesize a more coherent understanding of the physics of the biological system. But even the PhD students that I was working with if you try to discuss mechanisms of electromagnetism operating in the body

11:32 They had completely no idea what you were talking about. You know, I remember getting into a discussion on whether or not there were photons in the brain and whether or not there was electromagnetic phenomenon occurring in the brain one of the patients said, yeah, of course there's electromagnetism in the brain and he said oh but are their photons? And I had to explain that electromagnetism is photons. You know, that's the quantization of the electromagnetic field is called a photon! So you know it says that problem was and still is that to get an advanced degree in biology where are you going to practice medicine or study biological system? Well you only need one or two years of physics and that barely gets

12:28 Maxwell's electromagnetism. And so if you start talking about quantum biology, it just flies completely by the wayside. It's completely off the radar and there is no—especially back then—there was just no context for it. You know? Sounds like you're just talking crazy! Then on the physics side physicists in terms of understanding quantum biology, they don't have a thorough enough understanding of the intricacies of the nanomolecular scale biological system. You know I did the micro-scale to understand how quantum physics and quantum mechanical phenomena can be taking place there—electrodynamics and electromagnetism. So when I was able to team up with Nassim

13:20 You know, Hughes' holographic model of unified physics fit perfectly into beginning to explain these hard problems. These big questions that don't have an explanation in biology coming from the foundational side of things which is physics So consciousness, when you begin to integrate in holographic principles, the holographic brain and the holographic structure of subspace and spacetime. It's kind of very natural and easy explanation flows from that as how you get

14:07 consciousness. And you can begin to describe actually the nature of consciousness in the universe, the role it plays in the mechanisms and dynamics for the universe. But then so that theoretical fundamental level—that's a wealth of understanding but of course that theoretical side satisfies their curiosity but what about the applications You know, and that's where it becomes relevant to folks who maybe don't even have that curiosity. Because it can better inform...taking that holographic unified physics approach can inform your ideas of health and wellness in the body. Therapeutic approaches which is especially more relevant now than ever

15:02 given the certain circumstances, the global situation we're in. So sure enough you know we're working on novel approaches to health and wellness too, combating disease both ways to neutralize pathogens which don't follow consensus model conventional paradigm of using drugs, synthesized chemicals and stuff like that which has its place and is effective in acute circumstances in certain situations. But taking a more what you could call holistic approach but an approach that's going more to the foundational level things are operating via information exchange

15:56 of the quantum fields, electromagnetic information exchange, phonon exchange. And so if you can modulate these things at that level you can make significant changes with minimal side effects. So that's certainly the approach we're taking both externally in combat say pathogens, but also internally boost the health and wellness of the biological system. And you know that has a spiritual or consciousness component too because your state of mind how are you connected in this connected universe? You know and then of course the connectivity of your system

16:45 as well. Yes, and let's drill down into that a little bit more maybe let's talk about viruses and drill down into what makes us sick because we have this overarching scientific model of a cold random harsh universe and that attitude certainly informs our views on health and wellness too along with all the special interests that want to corral our thinking but We use militaristic language and approach the natural world as this thing that we're doing battle with, and it's trying to kill us. We're at war with the germs and all that but I've had several guests that have explained how to cure dozens of autoimmune conditions or even cancer largely with diet or fixing our mineral deficiencies which shows right there that we aren't just victims of what we randomly quote-unquote catch so to speak. Yeah

17:40 We also have people saying that just as we learned not all bacteria is bad, in fact a lot of it isn't. Viruses might also be more nuanced than the way the mainstream has presented them to us maybe not the source of disease at all I'm not sure but what are your thoughts? How do some of these ideas need to be reframed with a hollow fractal graphic or quantum biological model Yeah, those are great points that you bring up. And first on the role of viruses—that's exactly right—you know the conventional idea that these are not organisms these are pathogenic nanomachines purely is erroneous. That's not entirely correct at all. You know so actually you might have heard of the microbiome

18:35 which describes the flora, the microorganisms naturally present in the body and that actually they outnumber your own cells by about 100 to 1. So you have a hundred times more microorganisms as bacteria in your body, in your system than you do with your own cells and that's your microbiome! Now Obviously that's come along and we understand fully, you know okay these so-called germs these microorganisms aren't bad. You know in fact if you don't have a healthy microflora your very unhealthy it is

19:20 essential to the health and well-being of your biological system. It performs myriad functions in addition to actually protecting you from microorganisms that are opportunistic pathogens, that will disrupt the health and wellness of your body if they're able to take hold in a significant fashion but we also have the viral. Now it outnumbers So, the number of viruses outnumber your cells a thousand to one. So you have 1,000 times more viruses in your body than you do cells and obviously these are not bad because that myeloma just like the microbiome is part of the natural

20:17 functioning of your body, maintaining health and wellness. And indeed a great portion of these viruses found in the intestinal system are regulating the microbiome they're weeding out potentially pathogenic or disease-causing microorganisms and in fact you could isolate those viruses from the intestinal tract and use it to treat microbial infections. These are particularly called bacteriophages and they are orders of magnitude more safe than antibiotics, which are chemical treatments this is a non-chemical approach to antibiotics and they're 100% selective so one of the problems with traditional antibiotics is that they take out all your microflora right? Every microorganism

21:21 the viruses only target one or maybe two bacteria, and the bad ones. So you can target them and leave your cells completely untouched and your healthy microflora completely untouched. Now that's not even getting into yet the human endogenous retroviruses which are in the genome—the human genome—and that will come up later if we get into alien genetics Yeah i'm excited for that and i'm curious if this is maybe a different terminology but it seems pretty congruent with the exosome theory which has been tossed around a lot now which is the idea that when someone gets.

22:07 Into a state of illness and then we take a blood sample look under the microscope We see these things we call them viruses And we're saying that's what's causing the illness because this is a thing that I didn't see in the healthy person But the exosome theory is saying that actually these Viruses or these things were seen they emerge from your cell there. There's something that your cell produces to try to detoxify itself their excretions of a toxic cell And, I mean you're saying endogenous. This seems very much in line these are things that are part of our makeup that emerge from inside of us not something we've caught from the outside world randomly Well there is some truth to that but for supporters of the exosomes they're not going like what i have to say just because You know thats just not actually whats occurring

23:02 because you can isolate those virus particles and you can do an analysis, in autopsy if you will on what they're made of. You know, you can look at the protein capsule that forms the body. You can go inside and look at the molecules, you know, nano machines that it's using to operate. You can look at its DNA or RNA genome and it is clearly not something that's coming from our own cells because most of these components are completely foreign to what's naturally present in the body. There are components that you don't have in your body but they're coming from outside into your body.

23:58 very clearly show that. So the promoters of exosomes are definitely not going to like what I have to say about that, you know because particularly the idea like okay so if say your being exposed to 5G it creates a toxic buildup in cell and cell tries to detoxify itself via exosomes The only thing is that you can look at exosomes or the budding of vesicle compartments from the membrane in the cell, which happens all the time. I mean neurotransmission is a process of exosome...you know, the releasing of a lipid vesicle from the synapse of

24:51 into the intracellular space. And I mean, you know you can just really easily see that these extracellular vesicles are completely different from a virus. Fair, fair and maybe that's a little too in the weeds perhaps it just it prompted that from me because you said endogenous viruses and then we do have this virome and some aren't so bad so... And obviously we're talking about a category of viruses that we know there are just thousands of things within so I'm sure there's a lot of nuance and maybe we can't even categorize all viruses as one thing, but I guess there's just some that aren't so bad for us and are kind of housed in our body. And that's where I was saying that there is some truth to that because you know what you do have those endogenous retroviruses and so the model that I've promoted it's actually a theory that I developed when I first started learning about viruses at the university

25:53 is that you do have beneficial or altruistic viruses. And so, you can have this kind of intrinsic or internal activation of viruses and it would look just like an exosome budding from the cell and transmitting information via packaged DNA to adjacent cells And I think that is occurring, and actually that's a beneficial process. The reason why it's not known is that the only reason we even know viruses are around is when they cause a problem

26:38 It's when you have one that is disrupting the health and wellness of the system, that's when you know something is going on. There's something there and you can see it and identify it but if it's something that's a normal part of functioning in the body and it's actually not causing harm but it's helping it might go completely unnoticed, especially given the extremely small size of viruses. You know they're in the nanometer scale range and so that's actually a model I developed to explain the origin of viruses where they come from and if they actually in the deep past...in early history of life emerged as a gene sharing mechanism

27:28 for horizontal gene transfer so organisms could act altruistically, collaboratively. So if they had a new mutation or piece of gene information that was beneficial and helpful they could package it up and pass it along to a neighbor And I think that is happening. That was my hypothesis very early on and actually an instance of that has been discovered where these so-called viruses are actually being used to share useful DNA information with a colony of microorganisms,

28:09 It is nuanced. It is nuanced, isn't it all and so a major interest of mine right now is how the electromagnetic fields of the body and the earth in the environment play a role in our health and wellness some say it's the most fundamental aspect and it wasn't until We started stringing electrical wires across every city and sending radio waves across the globe that we started seeing people get the flu in mass. That's an argument I've heard that is kind of compelling, but it's interesting because even in the coronavirus news we don't really hear anything about diet or upping our immune system. And then to go a level deeper, we never really hear about the health of our electromagnetic fields and how to take care of that

28:57 I'm curious, what are your thoughts on the relationship between these unseen fields and the state of our general health? How related are they? Yeah. And you know just touching on that point that you brought up it is kind of amazing to me that if we go into a hospital be sick and get hooked up to like let's say take a ventilator into your lungs which is extremely invasive and damaging procedure But why not give the supplements that the body needs, the micronutrients that the body needs to have a healthy functioning immune system? I think in all of those cases just giving zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C you know boosting those levels. DHA, DHEA... You could probably pretty much eliminate the need for any serious medical intervention

29:54 and give a body the resources it needs to heal itself naturally. But then we do have new situation for human experience, which is the widespread intensifying generation of artificially generated electromagnetic fields and started with 50-60 hertz electrical power lines that went up in the early 20th century. And there's certainly no doubt, you know, the studies and experiments have been performed to show that these external sources of electromagnetic radiation which are naturally present do absolutely interact with the functioning of a body and can disrupt it oftentimes in a negative way.

30:50 There is really interesting analysis that has been performed showing the correlation between the emergence of these external sources of electromagnetic radiation and epidemics, pandemics etc. You know even with the current pandemic if you see a heat map showing concentration, the density of infections. It overlaps nearly exactly with locations where the 5G technology is being set up and implemented. You always have to be careful though with correlations because

31:41 despite the kind of layman's interpretation of a correlation, a correlation does not mean causation. So you can see okay, you've got increased instances of infection in locations where 5G is being initiated so it's correlated but There's other things that are correlated, like 5G is rolled out in the most densely populated areas. Cities and cities where you have the highest infection rate because it's the most densely populated area so even though its correlated its not...it doesn't necessarily say there's causation there

32:22 Now, from my research into the effects of artificially sourced electromagnetic radiation it certainly is going to lower the immune function of a body making it more susceptible to infections and disease because The body has increased stress levels from the electromagnetic load that isn't naturally present and really hasn't been present for a hundred plus thousand years of human history. It's just an extremely instant change in what our body has to deal with

33:09 But then some of the proponents of that exosalt theory has gone on to kind of take that a step too far and say, well these pandemics are the result—the direct result—of these external sources from electromagnetic fields. But you know, the problem with that is human populations also have long and deep history going back as far as we have archaeological evidence of. You can dig up 3,000-year old mass graves in locations in say Western Europe and isolate bubonic plague so these pathogens

34:00 Infecting human populations, causing epidemics and pandemics is a naturally occurring thing. It's been with us always. It'd be very difficult to correlate 1348 Black death of Europe which killed 25% of the population with the rollout of 5g You know what is interesting about that particular case and of course this is all just outside-the-box stuff that I read But there is a book out there It's not gonna come to me in this moment because I didn't think we would talk about this particular plague but apparently, there's a correlation to An asteroid impact or a meteor impact that kicked up a lot of dust and particulates in the air and.

34:45 Possibly a change in the environment that isn't necessarily through human technology could've caused a massive illness because it seems to again no definitive causation but people who have looked back in history and tried to find possible causes that really work. Being thought about at the time, have looked at that and thought that it could've played a role. I don't know, but it is interesting because we know that a lot of viruses and bacteria come in on comets and asteroids and meteors from what I understand. When you have an impact like that on the ground, it can send a bunch of heavy metals up into the air...I do not know! It's obviously beyond me but I thought that was an interesting possibility. Yeah, that is extremely interesting

35:33 Now, you know it hasn't been 100% confirmed that you can have what amounts to interstellar transmission of a virus. So it hasn't been 100% confirmed that a virus or microbe bacteria microorganism has come from outer space but there are many scientists or at least a good number who, and myself included strongly believe that this is occurring. You can have a new virus that comes to Earth from outer space. Now if you look at some of the numbers on any given day there's about 100 million viruses raining down per square meter of the Earths surface so you could go out

36:30 find a place unobstructed with the sky, set up a collection pan and square meter. And once I can get 100 million viruses that have rained down from the skies." You know? And this is you know a major component of the theory on panspermia. So not only can it explain possibly the emergence of new viruses and especially pandemics that proved to be, you know exceptionally lethal. But actually you know that's the same kind of mechanism by which you could explain the origin of life on Earth. Yes! Since we have just stumbled onto this is definitely on the agenda

37:20 let's talk about it while we're still in the first hour what's getting to human dna i understand your phd thesis was on genetic manipulation of evolving humans and the idea that we were engineered in the ancient past possibly heard you say that the very same techniques and kind of artifacts of DNA editing that we use today can actually be seen in our genetic code somewhere. This might relate to what you mentioned a few moments ago about retroviruses possibly leading to an alien hybrid DNA conclusion, but how do you factor this kind of stuff into the human story and what does the human story look like with this new context?

38:03 Yeah, yeah. And you know so just to be completely clear... So my thesis work was actually at that time I was just trying to explain via investigating the genome how you had a transition from an ape-like ancestor closely resembling the modern day chimpanzee to a human Because the conventional evolutionary theory is that we share a common ancestor with the chimpanzee. So if you go back 8-9 million years ago, we actually came from the same population of apes but these populations split

38:56 And one of them went on to become humans, and the other one went on to become modern-day chimpanzees and bonobos. You can see this particularly if you do analysis of the genome—so a comparative analysis between genomes between humans and chimpanzees because they have about a 98.9% similarity, and that varies it can be you know give or take higher lower percent similarity you know by maybe 0.5 to 1%. The thing is the number of potential variability between human genome and chimpanzee genomes no greater than the number of variability between one human individual in another

39:45 So actually, me and you can have the same amount of genetic diversity as I have with a given chimpanzee. And what that means in plain English is that our genes are nearly identical to the chimpanzees'. Now that's a little bit problematic given the conventional paradigm, because genes are what are supposed to make you a unique species. There's supposed to be changes in the genes that lead you to become different from another population that hasn't had the changes in the genes that you've had and that's the process of speciation So my thesis was well okay if the genes are identical how do we account for the differences?

40:38 And, you know this is a pretty big bite to chew off because part of that requires explaining how genes produce an organism. How you go from genotype to phenotype which I have worked out through large extent with explanations that you won't find in any biology lecture or textbook. it was in the course of doing this research that I was like, okay so it's not the gene coding regions. Well that's not a big problem because gene coding regions only account for 1% of genome. So 99% of the genomes are not canonical or conventional gene coding segments of DNA. 99% is something else

41:36 Now, that does have the historical misnomer of the junk DNA which today no molecular biologist or geneticist refers to as junk DNA because it's known that its anything but junk DNA. It is extremely functional which should have been obvious from the start right? Well so what is that other 99% well that a lot of the interesting stuff is located. In particular, you do a breakdown of it because we have whole genome sequences, we've got the thousand human genomes consortium sequence taken from populations representing every major ethnographic group of humanity on the planet. If you do an analysis of that it's about 50% retroviral DNA

42:32 Now, 50% of our genome which is about 1.5 billion nucleotides give or take is of external source. It's retroviral DNA that was inserted into the genome. Now immediately this is an interesting point for me because I had done my master and applied recombinant DNA technology And what that is, is that you use retroviruses to insert DNA into an organism to change its gene expression. So even the gene therapy for humans... The early practice of gene therapy used what's called a retroviral vector where they use a retrovirus to insert a gene into the human genome

43:36 So, you're going to explain why humans are different from our closest genetic relatives chimpanzees and the answer is retroviral DNA insertion. That's kind of interesting! It absolutely is and does this retrovirus DNA insertion happen naturally? It seems like it could or does but is there something different about retrovirus DNA insertion you're seeing in the human code. Yeah, yeah well so you know I think is that it does happen naturally because You know every well not everybody most geneticists Know that there are human endogenous retroviruses and I got many of those no they makes up 50% of the genome but there's very few a figure them talking about

44:36 genetic engineering in respect to that. And because, you know what's given is the explanation as well this is occurring naturally but there are some major problems with that occurring naturally first and foremost is that there has been no documented case of retroviral infection being inserted into the gametes, the reproductive cells and passed on to the progeny. So we don't see that happening naturally—we haven't seen that happen naturally. Immediately you know, that's a foundation that the naturalistic explanation rests on and so maybe that does happen from time-to-time

45:28 But there are problems with that, is the naturalistic explanation because what happens when a retrovirus targets a particular cell? So you could take the most well-known retrovirus—the human immunodeficiency virus HIV which targets white blood cells. So it binds to white blood cells and inserts its genome into your genome, inserts its DNA and it takes up residence in there. And what happens to those white blood cells? They die! That's why you become immunodeficient, is because the virus wipes out all those cells. But if you have a retrovirus targeting the gametes—the reproductive cells—what's going to happen to those if the virus is spreading through them at sufficient rate

46:24 inserts the DNA into all the billions and billions of gametes that it needs to, you know, maintain its replication. Those cells are going to die! If an organism has a retrovirus taking out its gametes, it is sterile. It's not going to pass on this DNA. Interesting... So there's a little bit of problem with the naturalistic explanation for how 1.5 billion nucleotides of RNA virus into your genome, it gets passed down

47:00 You know the inheritance so in layman's terms. What would that mean if we're looking specifically at the Reproductive organs and what you're seeing in them, and we're putting this in the context of we were potentially Engineered obviously were able to mate today is that something that was? Engineered in us where we initially not able to do that Is that am I hearing this right well you know It's just that normal explanation probably is not accounting for the vast majority of where these retroviral sequences are coming from. So you do have other mechanisms like horizontal gene transfer, and this is very important and actually it was what I was alluding to earlier on in the origin of viruses

47:57 The large portion of what a virus is doing is it's exchanging DNA from neighbor to neighbor, organism to organism. What's called horizontally and that just refers to its not DNA that's being passed on via reproduction, via inheritance as jumping from one cell into another one body into another in a single lifetime. And, you know it can spread through an entire population that way and be inserted into the genome without causing problems with reproduction so this horizontal gene transfer mechanism is one way...and it's kind of natural type way that you can have retroviral genes spread through a population now

48:58 begins to get into some of the ideas of how these retroviral elements could be associated with actual directed engineering by an advanced extraterrestrial intelligence civilization. Because one thing that could potentially happen is that, the same way you could write a code to act as a virus into the software of the computer and change its function. You know, obviously that's usually done for nefarious purposes but the same way you could do that, write a code send it out have a virus inserted into large number computers an advanced enough extraterrestrial civilization could see oh there is intelligent life over on this planet Earth

50:01 package up a program, DNA program into the virus or retrovirus and just send it out through space. And you know it comes raining down and once it reaches the Earth's surface via this horizontal gene transfer goes into the human population inserts these novel genes in there and directs that evolutionary progression of that species right? Damn yeah and then they send some crafts out every once in a while to check how it's progressing the old alien ant farm here. It's awesome man because this is very much in line with my thinking cuz I'm big fan of the genetic manipulation by aliens theory but,

50:48 As I've gotten deeper into it, I've heard from others who look at it and say yeah there might be something to it. But it's another materialism mistake to think that physical beings came here and built us in a Frankenstein sort of way. And it's a lot more likely that they sent out packets of viruses or bacteria out into the universe that could unpack themselves on maybe any habitable planet or obviously you could direct it here if you knew there was life and it could just kind of integrate and merge with what's already here. And I like that idea too, because it is a lot easier to send out some sort of terraforming space drones than it is to physically get to a new place. Imagine setting up shop physically on a new planet

51:35 When all you really had to do is send your virus code there instead it's a lot more. New ones that's something that i'm more intelligent species would rather than having to physically be there to set up and also accommodate themselves and get their own resources for living in, enter living and setting up a society it takes a lot more work to do that but this seems very much in line with your thinking and not find exciting Yeah, well Ed you know there's an interesting line of thoughts along that kind of model if you will. In that if you look at some of the projections for so this is going to be a high level perspective big picture kind of thing and if you take some of the ideas

52:25 where the universe is going, ultimately. You know the evolution of the universe... The main idea is that it ends in a heat death, entropic heat death Now if you're an advanced civilization, you might understand that entropy is increasing and eventually it'll be all entropy and the universe will suffer the heat death. Well, one way to reverse the increase in entropy is to increase the intelligence of the system so if you can increase intelligence and consciousness in the universe, you can stop that progression of the entropic increase even reversing it

53:14 what might be a motivation of an advanced intelligent civilization to send out these viral packets into the galaxy that are programmed to make intelligent species really intelligent species? Well, it's to increase the overall intelligence and consciousness in the universe itself. You know so you drive, you help to drive the universe into a state of greater coherence—greater systems coherence and actually lower the entropic value. And I mean it can actually go so far as if the intelligence and consciousness in the universe increases such an extent via

54:11 accelerating the intelligent evolution of species on other planets, if it gets to such a point you can actually make new universes that are optimally bio-philic. So the big picture perspective on this can actually get into some interesting ideas and mechanisms. Yes, you can! I like it man this is kind of we're already at the furthest edge of how i've been able to process the alien human hybrid DNA thing but at one point i was very much into Michael Tellinger's work and the idea that we were genetically tweaked to be a slave species and that jives a lot with my thoughts about

54:54 Just conspiratorial machinations and the way people seem to process them or just be oblivious to them and just follow. Any damn order that comes across that tv screen we seen pre-programmed to just say okay whatever you need me to do boss, no there's the whole nurture vs nature argument in a might be just baked right in but even if you wanted engineer slave species again you could send out this packet of viruses in advance and then just show up when everybody's ready to pick up their shovels and take orders. Yeah, you know in regards to Michael Tundra he is a really good friend of mine I got to spend time with him down at Adams calendar presented one of his conferences just fantastic time with him but if anything you probably have more than one

55:51 advanced extraterrestrial intelligence population group out there. So, if anything probably the directed evolution of the human populations on Earth had probably been underway for a good couple hundred thousands of years and then you could have a more controlling or even nefarious type group civilization that comes in and does some tweaking to make one of the populations look like a slave species. If anything, that's probably closest to what matches with that line of thinking in Zacharias Sitchin's work. It begins to get more convoluted because you undoubtedly have multiple

56:46 different groups, different civilizations that are involved in this interaction. Yeah I think that's pretty fascinating it's a giant alien DNA human engineering soup out there and maybe its happened many times the human story is quite long Before we run out of time, I wanted to bring it back to the coronavirus thing a little bit more. I don't want to lean too hard on coronavirus-centric coverage because i do think people are getting fatigued by it and if we talk about health and wellness in general, it makes for an interview that still has a lot of value even when this thing passes but you did tell me you're approaching

57:25 this COVID-19 thing way differently than the mainstream's quest for a vaccine or the use of harsh drugs with pretty scary side effects. You mentioned the risk of blindness in the case of hydroxychloroquine, Well, what have you been seeing with light and frequency-based approaches to this specific situation? Because you did describe some details that were pretty interesting and seems like this might be a better way to go about it. Yeah so very early on we were investigating in approach using energy therapeutics, using the energetic approach

58:09 to neutralize and destroy the virus. The idea being that we could design an electromagnetic system that would specifically target the virus, and would have minimal-to-no side effects on human hosts or humans in the environment We just saw this as a potentially much more effective and safer means than the more traditional approaches. Certainly, it's more helpful than quarantining an entire population. You know, something could be designed to avoid that problem because you know that isn't going to be solved with a vaccine

59:03 that has been and continues to be touted as the solution to the quarantine, that people are going to be allowed to come out of their homes once we have a vaccine. But you know there's definitely an agenda going on with that because for one thing how good is the vaccine against the common cold? Not very good considering that there isn't one. Because you can't make a vaccine for the common cold, the vaccine for influenza is like 20% effective and it also happens to increase the likelihood of getting other respiratory viral infections like coronavirus. So vaccines are not going to solve this problem. You know assuming they

59:56 There's even some question about, well how big a problem is it in reality? I mean do you really actually need anything at all. You know early on the accounts we were seeing made it look like it was very serious but I think that a lot of that was overblown and actually result of having not fully understood the virus but one of things that you can't do is what's called a structural resonance energy transfer, S-R-E-T. And this is a pretty well known phenomenon and pretty well known mechanism actually it's how microwaves work when you heat up your food. Great! Yeah, you know the microwaves in your kitchen are making any wavelength that is at a specific size that interacts specifically with water molecule

1:00:54 Basically, that microwave photon is converted directly into a phonon. That's a physical mechanical oscillation like a sound wave. It's an acoustic oscillation so basically you're converting the light into sound but that vibratory motion mechanical oscillation of the molecule is also what we call heat heat is molecules vibrating very quickly. And so, when you directly transfer a photon into a phonon that transfer results in heat and so you can heat up your food. Well, you can adjust that wavelength...so in the microwave it's tuned to resonate, have structural resonance energy transferred with a water molecule

1:01:50 you can change that wavelength so it would be a bigger wavelength, so that it doesn't affect water at all. There's no structural resonance transmission and that's good because if there was, it'd be extremely harmful to the human body right? 70% of water could rotate but we make our wavelengths a little bit larger actually at just the right size so that it has structural resonance energy transfer with something the size of a virus. It's about 20 to 200 nanometers, so there is actually kind of a range... So you know there are millions and millions different kinds of viruses or different kinds of sizes but each specific virus

1:02:38 Every variant has an exact dimensionality to it. So every coronavirus of the COVID-19 class has an exact dimension, just a diameter let's say. So you just scale your microwave so that it matches that dimension, that diameter so the wavelength is comparable to that diameter. You have a structural resonance energy transfer to the varion only to the varion heats it up and you have what's called photothermal lysis

1:03:16 the virus quickly denatures, essentially destructures the capsule and the membrane bursts open and the virus is dead. You know those things are kind of a line between what we consider alive and dead it's inactivated probably a better term for it but you could do that in terms of the external environment with minimal side effects to a person, especially if you made what's kind of called like a MASAR. That's a microwave laser so you get a collimated beam that is just like the laser light if you're standing to the right of that light being no lights hitting you or you can do that with this microwave and just kinda go into a room and just completely sterilize it

1:04:09 100%. Or, you know if no humans are present just have an omni-directional emission and just sterilize every single potential surface. Just to totally take it out but then for inside the body you can do much a similar thing but you start to get into problems with absorption of the microwaves by the extracellular tissue, that the interstitial fluids in the body which could have some negative impact on them but also lower than efficacy of that for directly treating the body. But you can change instead of making the wavelength match to resonate frequency of the virus

1:05:01 You could also adjust the timing of the pulses of the electromagnetic wave. So, you know this is frequency so you can change the frequency via changing the wavelength or you can change the frequency by having extremely short pulses And actually, when I say extremely short, they're called femtosecond pulses. So you've got millisecond, microsecond—that's a millionth of a second—and then you get into the femtoseconds which are billions of times a second. You could set these

1:05:46 lasers so that they're having a specific pulse rate, frequency that induces photothermal lyses in situ without problems of absorption or having impacts on the body. So these are all things we're exploring and actually gearing up to develop because you know it's not just about this particular pandemic because there was a whole lot of weird stuff going on with this pandemic. But, you know as I had said, natural pandemics do occur. Yeah people get sick people get into states of disease and healing technologies can apply much more than the current situation yeah yeah totally

1:06:39 And that's something about this is the universal application, unlike a vaccine or drug. Because you just adjust the wavelength and you just adjust the pulse rate so it matches whatever bug that's causing the problem and you like the little Emma. You're starting to sound a little bit like Royal Raymond Rife it sounds like! Oh yeah, well you know he was right... It only took about 100 years for him to be vindicated because now what he was doing is pretty much a part of mainstream understanding. It's absolutely using the right frequency

1:07:24 light, even sound. You can destroy a virus or pathogen or cancer. Yeah it seems like so much of life is based in electrical systems and energy and frequency and those are the components that aren't really in our medical system too bad The Gates Foundation doesn't make money off frequency-based technologies then they might be more inclined to think they work but Man this has been a lot of fun and just before we go as wrapping this up i wanted to ask you about tourists act this seems to maybe be the commercial side of the resident science foundation or at least there. In alignment where you know we see proof-of-concept devices are being developed based off the seams unified physics,

1:08:13 What do you find most exciting about what's being developed at tourists have what do you think people could look forward to actually purchasing or integrating into their own health repertoire, or even energy based kinda stuff but what is tourist tech working on that you find most exciting. Yeah, yeah. So the Resonance Science Foundation is the educational platform you know it's where we connect with the community and scientific community that general population in order to share the information, knowledge research that were working on and even though we have the Unified Science Academy which as you said knows how free

1:09:00 which has entire courses teaching holographic, unified physics. I even have a course, the Big Questions course which extends that unified physics into a synthesis and unified science incorporated in the application in the biological system and understanding of the biological system But Taurus Tech is where actually the research is being performed. And that research has been applied in the development of specific technologies based on that research, so it's really the R&D wing of the RSF what started as just more of an educational venue but he's been an inventor since he started you know? He's invented stuff for 30 plus years

1:09:54 For me, undoubtedly the most exciting thing being worked on here is anti-gravitational technology. Yeah so I'm a biologist, molecular biologist, quantum biologist whatever but what gets me probably most excited is anti-gravitational science you know? That's some extremely interesting stuff and It's what is being worked on and developed here. The primary focus is to generate technology that acts on the energetic structure of space, and you know this is...the energetic structure of space sometimes also called the quantum vacuum. This is quantum vacuum engineering.

1:10:52 especially historically known as the ether or the luminiferous ether. And actually, there's a fantastic lecture by the Nobel Prize winning physicist Frank Wilczek called The Materiality of Vacuum and my favorite quote from that is when he says we are ethereal beings because he was explaining to a room full of physicists that we are made out of ether—we are the as is everything. And the ether is what is producing the forces, the physical forces of our world. The dynamics of the ether are what produce strong force to weak force electromagnetism and most importantly—well, from the research we're doing here—gravity

1:11:44 And so, because all four of these forces have a single foundation in the dynamics of the energetic structure space and geometry space you can use electromagnetism to change the gravitational properties of an object. It's actually called the Gertrude Stein-Zeldafick effect where you can actually generate gravitational waves via passing polarized electromagnetic field through a strong magnetic field at a particular orientation. So already vacuum engineering has been around since the 60s, that particular thing where you know you could use

1:12:38 electromagnetism and magnetics to change the geometry of space, i.e., modulate the gravitational properties of an object or material. And so that is one of the main thrusts here...is to use plasma hydrodynamics on strong electromagnetic fields, magnetism to change structure or geometry of space to change the inertial mass of an object and produce what is commonly called anti-gravity, although it's not exactly anti-gravity. It's just gravitational control that you can just change how an object is interacting with the gravitational field

1:13:35 What looks like levitation basically produce frost and the same way that you do that so you're tapping energetic structure of space. So your coupling with it and your modulating changing well technology used to do that, You'd also tweak that technology so that when you couple with that energetic structure of space, you could draw energy from it. So that's free-energy technology. That's another big thing we're working on here and actually the anti-gravitic engine

1:14:17 doubles as a free energy device yes i've heard that there's a lot of people who say these two things are just sides the same coin and it's really the foundational understanding of our environment that is holding people back from having or developing these kind of technologies when you think this antigravitic craft or electrogravity craft is going to be ready for at least a public demonstration. Oh, that's always difficult to predict no more so as I've been illustrated in recent times because we were all quarantined in our houses for six weeks you know so we had to find

1:15:11 clever ways to continue to work on it, you know without getting in trouble or causing trouble. You know but that definitely put a pretty big impediment on moving forward. But coming from TORUS tech certainly a demonstration of this kind of technology especially in terms of the free energy aspect is pretty imminent, like within a year or two. Probably by next year the ability to demonstrate this will be there. That's amazing! Yeah you know I'm actually performing experiments right now to measure what i believe are some of the free energy processes occurring with one of the technologies

1:16:08 It's not necessarily accepted even by all the researchers here that this is occurring, but actually my goal and this is just since we got back out of quarantine to actually document and measure show one of our technologies that has already having this effect where it's coupled with a quantum vacuum. And there is energy transmission because I've observed in the course of my testing with the technology, you know just to characterize it. I'm now doing it in a systematic way testing specifically for that so you know I think it won't be very long before Taurus Tech is having demonstrations or even putting devices out on

1:17:01 Yes i love it i love it already man talk to a lot of people out of researchers and inventors who. Feel that they're very close to being on the cusp and it just doesn't seem like ever really seeing those fully out in the open, Completely verifiable demonstrations of either type of device but i am a champion in a lot of different corners on white number i'm hoping it happens but we'll definitely have to talk again then if this comes with fruition yeah totally no you know because i think.

1:17:39 Technology is actually there in a lot of different R&D labs. It's just that it's at that phase right now where it hasn't quite got to the full application stage yet, this is ready to go. there's still further developments that need to take place to get there. And I think that's kind of actually where the free energy technology community is at a whole, some being further along than others but in my perspective you know that's the cusp that...you know the little pause before you have big breakthrough and it's out in every way and uh you know and I think that's very imminent

1:18:25 Yes well i am hopeful you know we need some help in these challenging times. This is been really awesome we got through a bunch of different topics lotta technical stuff that's a bit over my head but the implications are exciting and, My mind is thoroughly blown. Is there anything more to leave people with? Maybe tell them about the free course available now or where to find you on social media, all that good stuff?" Yeah yeah so I have a Facebook Instagram page and i'm actually pretty good about engaging in discourse, you know if there's a question. I often enjoy getting to have those conversations and then we have the Resonance Science Foundation course which is on Unified Science Academy available online for free. I'm not sure if the URL

1:19:23 has been completely converted yet, you know because it used to be a membership program. Now it's free but it used to just type in like the Resident Science Foundation I know if Google search that will still take you through the free online course and register there And then there is a forum where I engage in conversations with folks answering questions discussing things from Alien DNA engineering to free energy, you know. So we have a bit of platforms for engagement and learning more about this

1:20:01 Mm-hmm. Yeah, very cool I love the stuff you guys are doing over there and the hollow fractal subreddit does a great job of Trying to follow you guys and that's how I kind of keep tabs on the cliff notes of what's going on But you got a lot of advocates out there You in the same are doing great stuff so it was a real honor and a pleasure to talk to you man Thanks again and keep pushing back against the conventional paradigm. I wish you luck Thank you, Greg. Yes, great getting to chat with you! For sure. I've actually had him on my list of guests that i've wanted ever since we had Nassim here. And it was this current situation that really got me to prioritize getting him on because I think it's important to keep bringing you guys guests who have different perspectives on viruses, what makes us sick and what makes us better and despite the range of differences some of these guests have had

1:21:13 They all are drastically different from the mainstream perspective as well. They're all saying that a vaccine is not the answer, we have much better solutions and they're not nearly as risky as big pharma's offerings yet our guests have had a perspective on viruses that ranges from they are just excretions of a toxic cell, they are exosomes, they're not the cause of illness Which of course is one of the more extreme opinions, and one that William doesn't agree with. And Del Bigtree would be another who didn't go that far But they would still say our thoughts on viruses should be more nuanced than the news is presenting them They aren't all bad just like bacteria we have a virome We exchange hundreds of viruses when we shake hands

1:22:01 I mean this isn't exactly saying that a virus doesn't make us sick, but it's definitely a calmer less hysterical view right? I mean William said pandemics do happen. But the difference is that it's not just a roll of the dice and there's nothing you can do shore up your immune system build your defenses focus on that It's not like The way its presented where you just get shot by a stray bullet And that's really enough for me because if we have a holistic, natural non-invasive treatment such as light or frequency based treatments the things that were presented today then it doesn't really matter if you catch the virus or not. We have then other people talking about zinc and intravenous vitamin C...we have the hydroxychloroquine thing

1:22:56 Whatever you make of that. But we even have Dr. Rhonda Patrick on the Joe Rogan Experience talking about vitamin D She's been saying that there is data to suggest the severity of the virus' impact on the body is directly related to the vitamin-D levels a person has And then, all of sudden they're saying on the news Yeah this virus can't seem to survive long in sunlight at all Better close the outdoors right? But it's been talked about that this virus affects minorities worse, which could be seen as a red flag for the argument that it was engineered. But from Dr. Rhonda Patrick's perspective, it's about melanin in the skin. Darker-skinned people need to be out in the sun way more for the sun's rays to penetrate deeper and then our modern Western culture where nobody is getting enough vitamin D through sunlight they're getting even less on top of all the other factors that affect minority communities and their immune systems and their diets and even the way they're treated within the medical system

1:23:57 But I thought even that perspective, that vitamin D is a big factor in how bad this is for people was also worth holding up in my head along with all the others. But the point was just to say that when we have these simpler more reliable solutions, the paranoia about the virus should go away whatever level you're on! I think I got a road that leads to The Promised Land, ya know what I'm saying? It's similar to cancer where it is actually a lot less scary when you know that there are alternatives to chemo that have been proven over and over. So, it doesn't bother me that William isn't into the exosome theory I want him to be honest and...I probably shouldn't have injected another guesswork into this interview as much as I did? I don't usually do that but we're dealing with a special situation here And I just wanna get everyone's opinion about every different angle But anyway, there are just a lot of different ways to look at this thing

1:24:55 that all make one realize that the reaction to it, the political reaction, the economic reaction has been grossly overplayed. And I just saw on the local news that 40 million people have filed for unemployment during this! That is so many and doesn't include the old and young people who don't work but are dependent on the working It doesn't include people like my buddy who lost his job and said, fuck it. I'm not gonna deal with that terrible website. I'm not gonna sit on my thumbs waiting for a check to come through this broken and bloated system. It also doesn't include my other buddy who quit his shitty job in January before this happened thinking he could just go find another one And then boom you can't really. And it also wouldn't include another friend I know who ended up with a 30% pay cut

1:25:47 When i really think about it, I know more people who took a huge economic hit that aren't on unemployment than ones who are. And it just seems clear that this is another economic throttling that was manufactured A gross control overreach that really doesn't seem justified Whether you think they just jumped on a convenient opportunity or made the whole thing up doesn't really matter when you're looking at the economic situation where the machinations of the economic think tanks that control the levers are gonna get away with this kind of thing again. And the blame will fall on an attack from the unpredictable forces of nature and the ignorance and incompetence of a bloated government, A tale as old as time but I think they get what they want

1:26:36 Anyway, even though I think the corona content is the more important and obviously most pressing right now. I knew with William we could round it out with genetic engineering talk and panspermia which are fun topics that are kind of virus adjacent and kinda weave us in and out for those who have a little virus fatigue even though most of that was in the second hour. Either way, it felt like a unique blend and an appropriate show for the times I hope you agree If you liked the first hour please please please sign up for the second! I've gotten a lot of great feedback from plus people lately who have had more time to comb over the archive

1:27:20 I see a lot of new comments on old episodes and i've got several years of good stuff in there. Why not revisit some older shows or some favorite guests but with that second hour this time? And help relieve a little stress from myself if you have the ability to support the show right now! I hope it's something you value, TheHigherSideChats.com In the second hour of today's show with William Brown, we got into the idea of 12-strand DNA and the spiritual elements of DNA. Engineering man to not sense their own masters maybe right in the same old environment? We talked about raising animal intelligence levels through a similar process regenerating damaged tissue and the meridian systems of both land and body

1:28:11 Plus a lot of other good stuff that's hard to come by in other places. And man, there are tens of thousands of free listeners! If I could just convert a few more it would really mean a lot but don't put yourself in a tight position...I'll live either way But that's the show. Check out ResonanceScience.org for more of what they're cooking, take care of the people around you be a calming presence in the chaos rather than an aggravating one shore up your health and seek out local healthier food sources! And keep listening to The Hireside Chats I'm getting outta here Your move Panspermia Directors Cosmic Terraformers and Alien Evolution Engineers You're fuckin'

1:28:58 Lucid dreams are so vivid, cause you go to bed at seven And your brain comes alive because you hate your nine-to-five You wake up with a dread and make sure your cats are fed Did your brain talk to a ghost who moved your coffee and toast As you listen to the higher side chats You get to your desk and your boss says it's a mess And your soul slowly grows To a place where nothing grows When you think he's not around, you insert a SETI sound The OM says turn it down and you say It's just the higher side chats Oh do you think you'd be invited? To Bohemia Grove. To a Bilderberg club Do you think you'd be invited

1:29:48 by a Rothschild to a party on a submarine. Diving down, to the center of the earth through the Marianas Trench your teeth begin to clench from the sulfurous stench The mask you're given doesn't fit cause you're not one of them Starting today, you'll make plans to get away. There's no one to hold you down and the what-ifs start to drown Then you wake to the glare of a cofluorescent stare And the light winks at you cause its life is almost through But it's holding on to quit time just like you It's time for the High Side Chats!

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