Topic: Hierarchy

Tom Montauk discusses his entity hierarchy graphics and the symbolic origins of ancient carvings like swastikas, which may represent sky plasmas. The conversation touches on the "Soul Trap" hypothesis, suggesting that incarnating into a human body is a choice to accept a "handicap" of limited senses within the demiurgic control grid. While some view this as a "hell dimension," others find value in the physical experience despite its inherent limitations.

The shift from perennial food sources to centralized annual agriculture is identified as the primary mechanism for establishing social hierarchies. By forcing dependence on a monocrop distribution system, ancient elites—potentially advised by spiritual entities—created a "haves and have-nots" dynamic. This transition moved humanity away from natural abundance and toward a gridded, controlled existence that persists in modern society.

Sociological studies in "Paranormal America" suggest that everyone holds beliefs that others might consider "out there," regardless of education level. For the elite, who have surpassed the base levels of Maslow's hierarchy, these beliefs are often labeled as "eccentric" rather than "crazy." This social insulation allows the powerful to pursue contact with entities or fringe ideologies without the stigma faced by the poor.

The variation in advice given by spirit beings—such as whether to fight colonizers or assimilate—suggests that these entities may have their own autonomous opinions rather than universal wisdom. Dr. Shushan notes that it would be valuable to research the specific historical conditions of tribes at the time of these NDEs to see if the advice was pragmatically sound. This perspective treats the "other world" as a complex environment with its own internal logic and hierarchies.

The discussion explores the existence of a spiritual hierarchy, including "feeders" that consume negative emotional energy generated by human stress and media-driven fear. Kenyon distinguishes between benevolent, life-affirming entities and those with a destructive nature, noting that a being's lack of a physical body does not equate to enlightenment. He suggests that some societal "string pullers" may consciously or subconsciously interact with these negative forces to influence the population.

Dr. Skinner posits that the physical world is merely the bottom rung of a long ladder of existence inhabited by various entities, including angels described in the Kabbalah. He defends this "medieval" view of a spiritual hierarchy as a reality confirmed by direct experience. This framework suggests that while the spiritual realm rarely impinges on the physical, it can be accessed and influenced through correct magical procedures.

George P. Hansen contrasts the rigid social stratification of Western corporations with the egalitarian nature of indigenous rituals. Drawing on the work of Victor Turner and Arnold Van Gennep, he explains that paranormal phenomena are more likely to erupt when social roles collapse or during "communitas." He suggests that the marginal or the outsider is naturally more attuned to these experiences than those in middle-management roles.

The CEO of Impossible Foods has stated an intent to send the traditional meat market into a "death spiral," which Carlwood interprets as a sign of hostile intent rather than fair competition. The discussion touches on the potential depopulation elements of these agendas and the importance of preserving traditional food knowledge. Dr. Leroy's advice on using low-tech methods for meat preservation and the nutritional value of organ meats are highlighted as essential survival skills.

Crowe explains that the medical profession is a hierarchy where doctors follow "the book" to avoid litigation rather than acting as independent scientists. He suggests that the only way out of the current crisis is for officials to change the "diagnostic criteria" or "tighten the test" to make the epidemic disappear definitionally, as he claims happened with SARS.

Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview by referencing Jordan Peterson's theories on dominance hierarchies and young men. He discusses his own journey into alternative research and podcasting, encouraging listeners to find a unique "slice of the pie" for their careers. Carlwood uses Brian Tuohy's specialized expertise in sports conspiracy as a model for professional success.

David Icke describes a hidden power hierarchy where high-level initiates outrank public political figures. He claims that former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan held a higher position in the "Satanic hierarchy" than presidents like Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton. According to Icke, politicians are often temporary actors following orders from deeper secret society structures.

Davidson argues that the global elite are fundamentally human rather than "alien reptiles," subject to the same biological needs and moral failings as everyone else. He suggests that their drive for status and control is a result of the system they inhabit. He posits that in a total collapse, the lack of a functional "pyramid" would force these individuals to operate on the same level as the rest of humanity.

John Le Bon explains his "Hoax Hierarchy," a triangular schematic used to categorize various events based on their impact on the human mind and lifestyle. The hierarchy ranges from "baby hoaxes" like the Boston bombing and Sandy Hook to more significant deceptions. The goal is to conceptualize how these events shape public perception rather than just proving individual cases.

Host Greg Carlwood reflects on the aggressive tone of the interview and Passio's stance on order followers. He notes the high suicide and depression rates among soldiers and police as potential evidence of the subconscious toll of violating natural law. Carlwood also mentions Jordan Peterson's views on dominance hierarchies, wondering how Passio's philosophy of "no masters" would counter Peterson's arguments.

The entities encountered by Dee and Kelly differ significantly from modern "Hallmark" depictions of angels. These beings appeared as wrathful giants with multiple pupils, wings filled with eyes, or seductive female figures. In one instance, the pair described encountering God as a massive whale covered in eyes that emitted a deafening roar like lions.

Following the interview, the host reflects on the difficulty of vetting mind-to-mind communication and the lack of physical proof. He draws a comparison between the Galactic Council's hands-off approach and how modern society treats isolated indigenous tribes. Referencing Jordan Peterson, the host muses on the inevitability of dominance hierarchies and expresses a desire for "philosopher kings" at the top of the global pyramid.

Dr. Stephen Skinner describes a medieval-style hierarchy of reality where the physical world is the bottom rung of a long ladder of entities. He criticizes "armchair magicians" who read without practicing, comparing magic to chemistry in its requirement for specialized implements and a dedicated, clean workspace. He notes that spirits prefer a pure environment and will avoid dirty or multi-use spaces.

Gordon White rejects the idea of a rigid spiritual hierarchy, viewing it as an artificial construct created by early Christian apologists like Dionysius the Areopagite to categorize pagan spirits. Instead, he proposes an "ecosystem model" based on animism, where the spirit world is a realm of independent and interdependent beings. In this view, the goal of the practitioner is to navigate this environment, finding helpful entities while avoiding hostile ones.

Dyer presents a metaphysical view of the universe as a "script" written by celestial intelligences rather than impersonal forces. He references the works of Dionysius the Areopagite and the Eastern Orthodox tradition to describe a graded hierarchy of angelic and fallen beings. This paradigm is offered as an alternative to the Darwinian explanation for life and the universe, framing UFOs as manifestations of this spiritual realm.

Secret orders maintain their power by positioning themselves as the "builders" necessary for reconstruction following global disasters. By controlling the knowledge of architecture and engineering, these groups establish a hierarchy where the priesthood calls the shots during times of crisis. This strategy relies on keeping the population in a state of anxiety regarding future cataclysms to justify the continued dominance of the builder class.