Saturday, 15 June 2019

David Icke | True Reality, Archon Control, & The Big Conspiracy

A prolific conspiratorial author breaks down the three phases of global control and the non-human entities operating just beyond the visible light spectrum.

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By The Higherside Chats Free Show | 1h 23m listen | 20 chapters
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About this episode

David Icke details the mechanics of a global control matrix and the non-human interference shaping human history. Icke recounts his 1990 awakening at the BBC and explains how the Rockefeller and Rothschild families maintain a debt-based system through the manipulation of the Saturn Moon Matrix. This analysis positions the material world as a holographic simulation governed by predatory interdimensional forces.

Research into the Babylonian Brotherhood and the Nag Hammadi library reveals a consistent history of Archons, Jinn, and the Zulu Chittahuri. Icke claims that high-level initiates like Alan Greenspan outrank presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton within a hidden Satanic hierarchy. The discussion covers the use of elite rituals at Rothschild estates to open energetic gateways, the suspicious death of Stanley Kubrick following the release of Eyes Wide Shut, and the role of 5G signals in disrupting the body’s electrical frequency field. Icke also previews his book The Trigger, which provides a controversial re-examination of the September 11 attacks and the technological agenda of the smart-city transition.

Greg Carlwood reflects on the legacy of Icke’s work compared to contemporaries like Alex Jones and the Ringmakers of Saturn research by Norman Berggren. The conversation shifts from the tangible world of secret societies to the illusory nature of physical reality, punctuated by Icke’s signature observations on the narrow band of human sight and the frequency of joy. The episode concludes with a look at the Renegade film and the upcoming infrastructure overhaul of the Higher Side Chats platform.


CHAPTER 01 / 20 Discussion

Higher Side Chats Plus Membership and Series Introduction

Greg Carlwood introduces the Higher Side Chats, referencing the historical context of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Fireside Chats. The segment outlines the benefits of the Plus membership, including archive access, monthly joint sessions, and discounts on merchandise. Carlwood sets the stage for a discussion on the perceived hijacking of the material world.

greg carlwood· higher side chats plus· franklin delano roosevelt· fireside chats· membership benefits

00:00 Embrace yourself, because you're about to dive into another free first hour episode of the Higher Side Chats. And we just want to let you know that whether your looking for a companion through your paranoid insomnia, entertaining yourself through one of life's mundane activities or trying to ward off the internal screams from all those sad smothered souls around the office THC is here and you should know that every episode of the higher side chats has an entire second hour for plus members Sign up at thehiresitechatsplus.com and you'll get years of Plus Show archives, lifetime forum access, a special invite to Greg Carlwood's monthly joint sessions MP3s of THC music bonus episodes tour videos and 10% off t-shirts grinders and whatever else ends up in The HireSite Store It's $8 a month that you won't miss so become a plus member and treat yourself in these troubled times always action packed and commercial free

00:51 Which means you'll unfortunately never hear my voice again. In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed the nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats His aim was to reassure the common man that society would recover from its troubled times From 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration we offer a fresh conversation I'm Greg Carlwood Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls welcome to the Little Show Inside The Big Show. From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and i don't have to tell you things are bad out there

CHAPTER 02 / 20 Discussion

David Icke Introduction and the Global Control Matrix

Greg Carlwood introduces guest David Icke, describing him as a prolific conspiratorial teacher and author of over 20 books. The discussion touches on the influence of the Rockefeller and Rothschild families within a debt-based system. Icke's work regarding the Saturn Moon Matrix and the Babylonian Brotherhood is highlighted as foundational to understanding suppressed sciences.

david icke· rockefeller· rothschild· babylonian brotherhood· saturn moon matrix

01:39 Our corporate factory food supply and petrochemical pill-pushing medical monopolies are making us sicker, our so called education system has been crafted to bury our youth under a mountain of debt and propaganda. The all important human connection has been replaced by digital dopamine driven Facebook likes and our humble attempts to make a modest living in this Rockefeller Rothschild debt based system of rule are often plagued with stress disrespect and depression Well, these are just a few of the facts that make the case that the material world has been hijacked long ago by a cosmic multi-dimensional arconic force and their interbred bloodlines of human hybrid foot soldiers who make up the secret societies three letter think tanks and secretly selected committees we find operating the big machine like Oz behind the curtain.

02:27 It can be a lot to take in, but when you really dig into the suppressed sciences the power of consciousness and what this life could be like without the parasites of The Power Pyramid it starts to make a lot of sense. Yet despite the inversion of nearly all our institutions the ironclad control over the material world by the shadowy puppet masters The Capstone Cabal and all the other threads on the conspiratorial cardigan we carry on We are, after all walking talking vessels of infinite awareness having a human experience. Or so go the teachings of today's powerhouse guest The Great David Icke If you're unfamiliar with David Icke i don't know what you're doing here but David is a former professional soccer player and sports broadcaster who eventually woke up to his true calling as the granddaddy of dot connectors setting off on a journey to educate the masses as to who and what is really controlling the world

03:18 Probably the most successful and prolific conspiratorial teacher on this island earth, he is the author of over 20 books has produced countless DVDs and presentations delivered a 10-hour lecture to thousands at London's Wembley Arena And is also the subject of a new movie entitled Renegade. The first feature film about his life and work David was absolutely critical to cracking my head wide open and I probably wouldn't be living my best life today if it wasn't for his work. So let's do the damn thing, the papa bear of parapolitics The great shapeshifter resister The truth-telling conspiratorial super scholar Of the Saturn Moon Matrix And the almighty infinite awareness educator Still beating back the Babylonian Brotherhood The man that met the legend David Eichmann Welcome to the higher side

CHAPTER 03 / 20 Discussion

David Icke's 1990 Awakening and Psychic Predictions

David Icke recounts his personal awakening beginning in 1989 and a pivotal meeting with a psychic in March 1990. While still a television presenter for the BBC, Icke was told he would reveal great secrets on a world stage. He describes this period as the start of a synchronistic journey where knowledge was systematically placed into his mind.

david icke· bbc· psychic· synchronicity· awakening

04:05 Thank you very much, Greg. Hello everybody and welcome to the weekly videocast for subscribers to DavidDot.com. Let's push that aside... How are ya? I'm doing well! I'm all these years old and i'm still trying to work out technology Sometimes it has a life of its own, but I don't have to tell you that. And man is just really an honor and pleasure to be doing this your works had huge impact on me what i do now You really paved the way for lot people took beating for no doubt When this all started for you seemed like mix intuition psychic guidance spiritual presence pushing forward direct download from somewhere else

04:47 And it all kind of comes together to take the shape of that journey, to live out your true calling that really we should all be on. Obviously you've had a lot of success with it when you look back does the success sort of validate that this is the life you came here to live out? Well, it would seem so Greg because since I had my personal awakening about nearly 30 years ago. I have lived a life of extraordinary synchronicity where what I was told by a psychic in 1990 was going to be my life from then on

05:27 has turned out to be my life in the most extraordinary detail. I went to see this psychic in March 1990 because for the year before, I had had this feeling that when I was in a room alone and wasn't alone there was kind of presence there and as a result of that through the year of mostly 1989 I had this feeling and it was getting more and more powerful, and more tangible. And then in March of 1990 i ended up long story again very synchronistic in a psychic's front room and started telling me because I went along to the psychic before my life I want to the side because i wanted to see if she could pick out what the heck i was feeling around with the previous year and i told her nothing

06:24 that it was happening to me. But very, you know I think it was the third visit? I went about four times in the end she started telling me she was being told to tell me I was going to go out on a world stage and reveal great secrets and at that time you know I'm still a television presenter with the BBC and I am not into any of this information really. In fact not even really not at all! I've always been someone who Question authority and didn't take things on face value but wanted to look at them from my own perspective and see if they stood up. But it's a long way from there to what I eventually started doing so i went to see this psychic just she could pick out what was happening around me without any prompting for me

07:17 went into psychic mode and started telling me I was gonna go out the world stage like a saying reveal great secrets that one man cannot change the world but one man can communicate the message that can change the world and that i was going to be led to knowledge, add another times knowledge will be put into my mind. Add all i can say now we have an advert on british television And the punchline of it was, it does exactly what is says on the tin. Well all I can say is you know what I was told that day has done exactly what it said on the tin because from that moment my life became this synchronistic journey of coincidence that was taking me into personal experiences into people, into documents, into books

CHAPTER 04 / 20 Discussion

Three Phases of Global Conspiracy Research

David Icke outlines the progression of his research into three distinct phases: the tangible world of secret societies, the realization of non-human interference, and the illusory nature of physical reality. He explains that since 2003, his focus has shifted toward the "smart" technological society. Icke emphasizes that following synchronistic clues allowed him to connect disparate subjects.

secret societies· five senses· non-human control· nature of reality· technological society

08:11 just this amazing synchronicity of information that was coming in multiple ways to me and what I was being given were pieces in a puzzle, and they were pieces in a puzzle that were almost in the right order to most easily understand them. And over the years there's been very clear periods of certain kinds of information, like when it all started after I left the psychics front room and i'm still working for the BBC at that time. I started to have these synchronistic experiences which were bringing me information about what you might call the world of the five senses where I was coming across information that actually the powers that appeared to be running the world weren't actually running

09:03 and it took me into secret societies, but it was all in the world of the tangible if you like. The five senses then this was in the early 1990's and then there was a very clear move into a series of information and all these different phases. Once another phase came in, the other phase didn't go away they were running concurrently which is why I work seven days a week pulling all these different subjects together The second phase was basically that this world is not controlled by not only the people you don't see it's not even controlled by people who ultimately are human

09:46 And so that came in again synchronistically and in the most amazing way this information was coming. You know when you have a subject suddenly introduced into your life, suddenly wherever you go this subject is coming at you even if you go abroad to America or Australia subjects still coming at it and then the crucial part for me was in around 2003 when the subject that kicked in was the nature of reality itself. What is this reality that we're experiencing? I mean, we call it a world what is it how do we interact with it who are we in our core state

10:29 We call ourselves a name, we call ourself race or nationality but what is this I? What is this I beyond all that. So that kicked in and from that understanding of the illusory nature of physical reality so many pennies started to drop because once you realize this world isn't actually solid and therefore limited in what you can do with it, then you can start to understand the so-called paranormal. You can understand how certain things are possible which appear on the face of it to be impossible and the area that's opened up

11:15 in more recent times that the subjects that's become the focus of this synchronicity is the technological society where it's going. Why everything seems to have a word smart in front of it and what you know what agenda really so that's been basically the theme of the last thirty years is Basically, one of the lines that came through this psychic in 1990 was or actually another one I met soon afterwards was no need for arduous seeking. All you have to do is follow the clues and that really sums up my life in the last 30 years. I've been following the clues that are put before me and if I had sat down here thirty years ago

12:05 and without any force opening and shutting the doors to guide me through the maze, then I'd probably be on my second book still trying to work it out. It's this synchronicity that has allowed me to put so much information together across such a vast range of subjects." Yes, doors seem to open when you're on the right path and that seems as true for you as anyone. And so we know the world is full of problems like you mentioned in that phase one vaccines GMOs 5G false flags debt and war and all the rest of this stuff in the material world but to understand what this system even is requires a lot of context As you say We are infinite awareness having experience

CHAPTER 05 / 20 Discussion

Consciousness Expansion and the Trap of Identity Labels

The discussion explores the concept of humans as infinite awareness having a temporary physical experience. David Icke argues that the global conspiracy functions by forcing individuals to identify with labels such as race, religion, and income. He suggests that expanding consciousness beyond these "postage stamp" consensus labels is necessary to perceive the true nature of reality.

infinite awareness· self-identity· identity politics· consciousness· labels

12:49 And the conspiracy is to make us identify with that experience rather than our true nature. And it's a really nice idea, but it can seem a bit abstract and I'm sure there are listeners who like the thought but just don't feel it because as you say that illusion can be quite real. What would you say to make the case for them? How can we feel it if we do not tend to be energetically sensitive?" Well, energetic sensitivity as you kind of indicate there comes from moving our perception of self-identity because if you self identify with what I call the labels your name your life story or race your religion your culture your income bracket. You're actually self identifying with what you're experiencing the true eye the infinite eye is not a body

13:45 It's not a form, it is a state of being aware. So I'm sitting here now in apparently a body called David Icke but who i am is what he's having the experience that I'm currently having talking to you that which is experiencing the experience rather than being the experience That is the true eye and when you self-identify with that level of self then because you see yourself in expanded ways, your consciousness expands. And as your consciousness expands you can think of it like an infinite expansion of consciousness awareness and what we call David Icke is a point of attention over that consciousness and that point of attention could be the size of a pea

14:41 which says I am my name, i am my job. I'm the person that works on the checkout that's who I am and your sense of self-identity is so small it's so limited but your consciousness is subsequently limited its a self fulfilling prophecy and therefore when you are self identifying with little me label me you are interacting and you are accessing a very limited level of consciousness not because she's stupid but because literally your focus of attention is so small

15:25 That's the only consciousness you're actually using or connecting with. Once you start to re-evaluate the I and you say, I am the consciousness having the experience, I am potentially all consciousness because we all are expressions of the same consciousness. We can be all of that consciousness in terms of being aware of that or we can be just a tiny focus of attention, which we give a name and labels to it. We think that's all we are and the difference between the two is absolutely fantastic because once you start to expand your self identity or expanding your consciousness in your range of consciousness further and further and further into this infinite field of consciousness and you start to get insights understandings that you don't get when you are

16:22 imprisoned by labels, by imprisonment of little me and the sense of little me. So the idea of this conspiracy is to keep people in that focus of attention and self-identity with labels because then they won't be a problem to you They'll look to someone else to tell them what to think They'll look to someone else cause they've got the power I'm just little me what can i do? And what those people tend to do is just conform to the norms. They don't question them, they just conformed to them because they think that's what you do but when you expand your awareness by expanding your self-identity, you don't accept norms anymore because as you expand your consciousness beyond the perception of what is normal, you start to get insights and understandings beyond it. You started realize that

17:18 What we consider norms, what we consider how things are is actually nonsense. Nonsense! It's the Stone Age in terms of its limitation and its limitation of perception of reality. And what has simply happened to me it happened in a massive kind of experience that I had in 1990-91 to start with and then it goes on expanding issue You move beyond what i call the postage stamp consensus what most people except is normal and now things are you must step off the postage stamp because then, no people think strange dangerous whatever but when you do step up the postage stamp. All perception and u let your mind expand you can see things not because you're better than anyone else but you can see things that

18:13 Others can't see, but others could see if they would just free themselves from the self-identity of labels. I mean the world is controlled by labels – IMR, IMR this, IMR that – and what you're seeing Greg is the way that even the original labels are being subdivided into smaller and smaller and smaller labels Like sexuality is being subdivided into smaller and smaller labels, and it's taking people further and further away from the true I consciousness. The more these sub-labels become self identities... And you know people talk now about identity politics where politics has become all about identity are you this race or this sexuality or whatever?

CHAPTER 06 / 20 Discussion

Perception Management and Coordinated Digital Censorship

David Icke discusses the role of perception management in controlling human behavior through the restriction of information. He characterizes major tech entities like Facebook, Google, and Twitter as coordinated agents of a single force rather than independent companies. The segment warns that the ultimate goal of this censorship is to ensure only the official narrative is accessible to the public.

mark zuckerberg· alphabet· google· facebook· censorship

19:08 And it's presented that which is manipulating humanity with infinite potential for dividing and ruling, and playing off the different self-identities off against each other. Which is exactly what's happening while we're fighting among ourselves over irrelevant labels not only are we missing out on the true nature of the I, we are playing like putty into the hands of the manipulators who are just setting us at war with each other and what we've got now is something you mentioned earlier, different self identity sub labels are seeking to silence other labels or not labels

19:59 who say something that they don't agree with. So now we've got the target population living in these label bubbles, fighting each other for dominance and superiority who are also seeking to silence each other for saying something or believing something they don't like it's crazy when you were kind of expand your consciousness beyond this madness. You see it as madness! You see the world is utterly inverted and you can see where it's going, and the more that I understand about this cabal that's behind all this its foundation of human control is manipulating and imposing

20:47 the perceptions of the target population. Perception is where it all plays out if you can get control of someone's perception, the more label focus they are to better then you can control their behavior because human behavior what we do what we don't do what will challenge what we won't challenge comes from our perception of a situation And so you control perception, you control behavior. How do you control perception? You control information that people receive and that explains why we're now seeing this explosion of censorship against anyone who is putting out information that's challenging what the norms, the postage stamp perception of reality and world events because the idea is in the end – this is the plan

21:39 that people ultimately will only see and hear what the system wants them to see in here. And to reach that point, you have to eventually censor all other information that challenges that official narrative and we're seeing it step by step by step Faster and faster now going in that direction, because in the end you know you can look at the Zuckerbergs and you can look at the Brins and the pages of Google and Alphabet. You could look at the people at YouTube owned by Alphabet Google and all these sources of communication

22:20 and information. And you can see them on one level as individual companies run by these personalities, I don't see them like that. I see them as different masks on the same face ultimately controlled by the same force and this censorship is not random, like Facebook decides we're going to censor that and Amazon said we're gonna censor that and Twitter's are gonna censor that this is coordinated censorship because it's all heading to this point where there is nothing that is allowed to challenge the official narrative. And once you've got the official narrative of nothing else, you've got human perception. And from human perception, you've got human behavior so

CHAPTER 07 / 20 Discussion

Saturnian Symbolism and the Virtual Reality Simulation

Greg Carlwood and David Icke examine the prevalence of Saturnian symbolism in secret societies, including the black cube and the six-pointed star. Icke posits that the material world functions similarly to a computer game or virtual reality simulation. He suggests that those in power understand how to manipulate the informational codes that dictate the human experience.

saturn· freemasonry· black cube· virtual reality· simulation theory

23:09 suppression and censorship of information is not just wrong on the level of freedom of speech. It has fundamental implications for human freedom way beyond what it may appear to be at first sight. Yes, wise words and you're quite good at describing not only where we're going but this waveform nature of reality and our place in it. And to go deeper a major piece of the control puzzle is what you call the Saturn-Moon matrix. We've talked about the Saturnian Brotherhood before I think we recognize that many of the symbols we see

23:50 the black cube, the cross, the six pointed star, the chevron. Many of the symbols are Freemasonry they are symbols of Saturn as you've said Satanism should be thought of his Saturn ism but in a physical sense how could this massive celestial body go from being perhaps what some call our original Sun to being a broadcast center for a DNA limiting control signal Well, I mean that's a massive story which i go to in detail at length in the books but the focus of the secret societies on Saturn is extraordinary. Of course the biggest god of Rome where much of this came out was Saturn but again you see this is why as I said earlier starting to understand the nature of reality

24:42 started to explain how things were possible that on the face of it would not be possible. See, if you think of it this way – if this world is solid and in reality as it appears to be and as we experience it then what you're looking at are extraordinary levels of limitation…I can't say it's not possible But if you then look at this reality in another way, as like say a computer game or virtual reality game or virtual reality simulation. Then of course all you've got to do is change the codes, change the information codes and you change the reality

25:30 And our reality is far, far closer to that than to solidity and it's not possible. What we've got in the world is basically two worlds. We've got the world that most people, the vast majority of people live in – the overwhelming majority of humanity lives which is the perception of a solid world with space in between, of limitation and all those things. And then you've got another world that's manipulating that world which understands that this reality is not like that at all and that you are basically looking at an interactive Wi-Fi game, virtual reality game. What dictating our experience

CHAPTER 08 / 20 Discussion

Frequency Resonance and the Manifestation of Synchronicity

David Icke explains the relationship between emotional states and vibrational frequencies, noting that joy produces high frequencies while depression produces low, dense ones. He describes an interactive feedback loop between individual perception and the cosmic field of probability. According to Icke, shifting one's self-identity allows for the manifestation of synchronicity and coincidences in daily life.

frequency· vibration· quantum field· synchronicity· manifestation

26:21 is our perception. This is why control of perception is so important, goes much deeper than even I talked about so far. See Einstein you know talked about if you get the right frequency you get what that frequency represents every time because everything in this reality is a frequency every thought is a frequency every emotion is the frequency love is a frequency and it's very different to the frequency of hate we talk about good and bad vibes these are the frequencies that we are giving off. And those frequencies that we all any fact broadcasting or dictated by our perception if you go into a

27:02 a room where there's been a massive argument or there has been tremendous distress and depression. If you have any sensitivity, you walk into that room and feel it. You can walk into old mansion houses, hundreds of years old where lots of negative things have happened. You can walk in there and you can feel it! It's in the atmosphere. It has been impregnated on the energetic field by the frequencies that what has happened there have given off So when we feel for instance depressed and down We actually describe it The state when we say I feel so heavy today

27:48 You feel heavy because that state of depression and anxiety and downness gives off a very low, slow frequency. Dense frequency. And that density gives you the feeling of I feel so heavy today But then you have, on another day you have a feeling of great joy and what do people say? I feel so light today. Because joy is a very fast high frequency and thus your energetic field responds in that way and you literally feel light! So this perception equals frequency... You go on to the next stage

28:32 perceptual frequency is interacting with the infinite field of possibility and probability, how we interact with that because you know if we talk about we're living a simulation, but it's an interactive simulation just like the internet. You go on the internet and you get information from the internet and you get experience from the internet but you're also posting on the Internet. Your also changing the Internet yourself by what your posting and what your doing And it's the same with this interaction that we have with this cosmic field of possibility and probability. If you go back again to that little me, I'm just my name and my job and I've got no power – that self-identity will give off a frequency

29:25 And you will be therefore resonating, operating on that frequency and that is the frequency band and the frequency level with which you are interacting with this cosmic field of possibility and probability. Therefore you will live a very limited life Not much will happen that's out of the ordinary it will be a very repetitive life where things basically stay the same and there is no if you like adventure because your self identity. Little me is giving off the frequency that is interacting with possibility and probability at that level in that band of frequency you by contrast

30:15 self-identify with being all that is, has been and ever can be having an experience. Now you are...that self identity is in that perception is giving off a very different frequency it's giving off of frequency that is expressing that state of expanded awareness and self identity It's a higher frequency and it's so much more expanded frequency now you are interacting with possibility and probability in the cosmic field. The quantum cosmic field in a much more expanded way so what you manifest in that feedback loop between perception and possibility probability is a much more expanded life

31:00 Life where synchronicity happens where coincidences happen where bits of lock just drop in your lap at the right time and if you talk to people who started to awaken started to go through this process. I experienced exactly the same myself what they say to you And I've talked to people about this all over the world, is that when this process starts with this reevaluation of self and reality starts they start to notice coincidences in their life that they didn't notice before.

CHAPTER 09 / 20 Discussion

Educational Programming and the Archontic Entity Feed

The conversation turns to how the state education system programs children to accept authority and limited perceptions from a young age. David Icke introduces the concept of Archons, interdimensional entities existing outside the visible light spectrum. He describes these beings as energy parasites that feed off low-vibrational negative human emotions.

archons· education system· perception management· visible light· energy parasites

31:35 It's like they'll meet someone somewhere where you'd never expect to meet some. Oh my God, fancy seeing you here! What are the chances of that? All these things start to happen and it is starting to happen because as you expand your self-identity or expand your perception a possibility so you're interacting with greater and greater levels of this consciousness that we're all apart on How does result this interaction with possibility and probability starts to make it possible to. manifest things that you were not manifesting before when you thought you were only your labels. And it all comes down in the end to perception, this is the stadium on which the whole game is played out and the inner core of the cabal that's manipulating human society knows this! This is why the whole focus

32:36 of the control system is human perception and controlling it. It's why they control the media, that's why they introduced education in the form that we have today – you come out of the womb and in next to no time you're sitting at a desk and an authority figure representing the state is telling you what to think, what not to think, what's possible, what's not possible, And in terms of control and becoming used to control by authority, they're telling you when you can go the toilet, when you can talk, when you can eat, when you can go home. And the whole education system is designed, although most of the people in it won't realize this. It's designed to a start the programming of perception from the earliest possible age and two, to get people in the mode of accepting rule by authority and

33:31 in position by authority and then you go out into the world after all your formative years have been going through this programming system, and the same thing happens. You go out into a job now instead of the teacher telling what to do, the boss is telling you what to do, the media is telling you what to think whereas the teacher was telling me what I think before... And if you analyze human life from cradle-to-grave it is a constant Cradle to grave perceptual download of the perceptions of that they system wants you to believe and all the way through history if u look at it anyone the mavericks the renegades in the name of my new film out in the next few days have been targeted by authority.

34:20 Because the renegades, the mavericks are the ones that are not accepting the program. Look at the kids at school who won't accept the program but won't conform to the program. Well you know oh they've got a problem we'll have to give them some drugs or what I could get onto their parents and say we've got a problem with Johnny because he's not conforming. And so from the moment you enter this world, this system wants control of your perception that's what it's all about and that's why the answer is not stockpiling weapons to fight the enemy its taking our perceptions back and deprogramming our perceptions from a lifetime of the download

35:05 Well said, yes perception management is the key. That's likely why material atheism is the dominant worldview that were sold for smart people because then you don't think magic is real so it works against you then you don't think consciousness is real and you think that this is the only life we have so your concerned with just preserving it and you do not even believe there could be a intergalactic inner dimensional control structure That seems to be the case and maybe we could flesh out a little bit more about what these archontic entities really are. They live in a space outside of visible light, they can materialize in our reality but not for very long, they feed off our low vibrational negative energy they can't create they can only manipulate... What else do people need to know to understand them fully and how they affect us?

CHAPTER 10 / 20 Discussion

Narrow Band of Human Sight and Hidden Dimensions

David Icke compares human perception to a single television channel, such as MSNBC, noting that people often mistake one channel for the entire reality. He argues that the human eye only perceives a tiny fraction of the existing frequency spectrum. This limitation allows a hidden force to manipulate society from dimensions just beyond the reach of the five senses.

frequency band· visible light· msnbc· dimensions· infinity

35:58 In this kind of story I was telling earlier, the first few years of the 1990s after i started this journey consciously all the information coming to me like I said earlier was five sense information five sense world information. Talked about secret societies yeah the manipulation of the world that we see yeah but One of the things that became clear to me very early on when I started to realize that this manipulative cabal is not something that's a modern phenomenon, actually goes back centuries and centuries more. You look at a situation where as you chart back its history, you see people if you like being born coming into this world playing a part in pushing

36:54 conspiracy on to its ultimate goal which is to complete control and absolutely total control. over human perception and therefore you decide which is the end game is coming now with a star which will get into. But you got these people that born then they die another people next generation make them along in may push the agenda on a bit further than they died someone else comes in the next generation pushes it all this is what's happened through history And so you look at it and you think, well there's got to be a common theme here. There's gotta be a common force that basically spans all this and has overseen it. In that period where I was contemplating this the synchronicity again started to lead me into a whole new subject area which seemed very bizarre to start with. That is that although we have what people call the 1%

37:56 who you can look upon as controlling the wealth and what have you, and the power. But that's only happening in the human world. That's only one level of the conspiracy. You start to realize that actually beyond that, beyond human sight which is a very narrow band of frequency if people realized what human sight was, what we could actually see it would be...it's laughable! It's so narrow You know, it's just a band of frequency. A very tiny band of frequency the whole of infinity exists beyond what we can see or the almost entirety of existence exists beyond that little band of frequency that we can see

38:35 We look and we see the panoramas of landscapes and we looking to. Into the sky at night we see this apparently great expands but actually that's tiny tiny fraction were actually seen, compare with what exists it's like watching a tv channel all the other TV channels exist in the same time but you're not aware of them cuz your only tuning to one channel And this body tunes us to this one channel. To the perception, when we are in a human form, this tiny channel is everything! It's all that exists but it's not... If you said MSNBC is the only TV channel that exist I mean people would laugh at ya

39:22 What are you talking about? Have you seen how many channels there are?" But if you have only ever seen MSNBC and none of the other channels, and so therefore you're not aware of them it would be quite credible to you that MSNBC is the only channel. And that's basically the situation we're in in terms of this reality that we're experiencing but beyond it is infinity and its beyond it – beyond human sight – that this force ultimately that is manipulating human society exists and These bloodline families that manifest in part as what's called the 1% They are basically middlemen and women Manipulating the human society were aware of on behalf of this hidden force. And so in this period when I started to Contemplate, what is this?

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Reptilian Shape-Shifting Accounts and Underground Bases

David Icke details his 1990s travels across the United States, where he encountered multiple individuals claiming to have witnessed reptilian shape-shifting. He links these accounts to MKUltra survivors and reports of deep underground military bases (DUMBs). Icke notes that these modern testimonies align with ancient legends from cultures like the Zulu in Africa.

reptilians· mkultra· deep underground military bases· zulu· shape-shifting

40:17 common force that has to exist, to be the overseeing force of this whole conspiracy continuing through history. Again synchronicity came into my life in so many and various ways first of all in what would it be about 1996-97 I came to America and I traveled America for about three months and i was talking to not many people because not a lot of people want to know in those days but it got me around, add a member in a period old about fifteen days i think it was i met him. Twelve different locations cause i was moving everyday to a different location twelve different people who described to me the same experience this is what i mean by the synchronicity of my life

41:17 And that was of seeing someone who first appeared to be human and then shifted into a non-human form. And this non-human form in these 12 people or so, was every time it was a reptilian form. Of course you listen to this stuff and what I don't do is dismiss anything but nor do i believe it just because someone's told me So I put it on the back burner and i wait to see if any other information comes along that either destroys their idea or supports it but then i started traveling and was meeting ancient societies like the zulu society.

42:05 and others, and they were telling me stories from their legends in their accounts about a non-human race which often they described in reptilian terms that was the force that was manipulating human society. And as this synchronicity went on then I started meeting people from within the military intelligence arena in the united states particularly who was starting to tell me the same story from their experience

42:41 Then I started meeting people who had been involved in mind control projects like MKUltra, the infamous one in the United States and other aspects and expressions of MKUltra. Who'd been basically mined captives of the US government military intelligence networks And they were telling me the same story of what they'd experienced, which was of reptilian entities shifting between human form and reptilian form. And also of full-blown reptilian entities in underground bases—what they call DUMs, deep underground military bases—which there are legion in America as well as other parts of the world

43:29 And so you start to gather together this, and I came back to England from America when all of a sudden had gone on and the synchronicity continued. People in England started telling me, and by this time I hadn't gone public with any of it! I hadn't written about it in books or anything, I was just trying to work out what the heck was going on and what was being told. So we come back to England without anyone knowing I started meeting people here who were telling me the same basic story. This is the way my life has gone since 1990, 1991 a subject suddenly appears in my life and bingo it's coming at me from all angles and further along the road i came across the writings of the Gnostic people, the Gnostic belief system

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Gnostic Archons, Jinn, and Universal Demonology

The segment explores the historical evidence for non-human manipulators found in the Nag Hammadi library and Gnostic texts. David Icke compares the Gnostic "Archons" to the Islamic "Jinn," the Zulu "Chittahuri," and Christian "demons." He argues that different cultures are describing the same predatory force using varied terminology based on their specific traditions.

nag hammadi· gnostics· jinn· islam· chittahuri

44:17 particularly those from a find at a place called Nag Hammadi, about 70 miles from Luxor in Egypt. When in 1945 an earthen jar was found and inside were these incredible writings of this Gnostic people that is, it's estimated were put in that jar maybe about 400 AD. And the information they're based on going back much further and they were talking about a fifth of these writings

44:54 were about a force they called Archons. And they described the Archons as in their base form being just pure energy, consciousness – a very manipulative form of consciousness – but pointing out that these Archons did take form and they described the major forms that they took as reptilian, and like a grey fetus with big black eyes which takes you immediately into the whole area of the greys. And so putting all this together looking at how the Gnostics describe the manipulative personality

45:43 traits of the archons took me straight back to the Zulus and how they were describing what they call the Chittahuri or children of serpent, and how you look at the Islamic world and pre-Islamic world where this whole concept came from. Of the jinn! It was funny I was in New York, I was in a taxi from the airport and the taxi driver, who's a Muslim starts talking to me and we're chatting and all the rest of it. And I don't know how he did it but we got onto the subject of the archons and what have you." And he said they sound like the jinn! Well exactly how the jinn are described by the Islamic and pre-Islamic world

46:29 a force that operates outside of human sight but manipulates human society, is precisely what the archons and how the archons were described by the Gnostic writings found at Nag Hammadi. And in the same way it links in with what the Zulus talk about and then you look at the Christian Bible where they talk about demons and again the descriptions have actions of what they call demons are very, very similar often the same as the archons and the djinn. So you start to see that all around the world you've got these ancient societies that have passed their information on through the generations and they give their quote gods different names and mainstream anthropologists and historians have looked at them

47:24 seen the different names and thought they're different gods. But my whole approach is to look at how these, quote, gods are described and it's extraordinary how they're describing the same force but just giving a different name to it because they have a different cultural context so obviously they have a different name but the evidence for this non-human force operating outside of human sight manipulating human society becomes immense when you go down these roads And it explains so many things. For instance, people say to you what if there's this force? Why don't they just come and take over well if they could they would have done but the cars because because they can't operate in our frequency band our reality for very long

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Elite Rituals and Energetic Gateways in Eyes Wide Shut

David Icke discusses the use of rituals by elite bloodline families to create energetic gateways for interdimensional entities. He references Stanley Kubrick's film "Eyes Wide Shut," claiming it accurately depicts elite rituals and was filmed at a Rothschild estate. Icke suggests that Kubrick's death shortly after the film's completion is suspicious given the sensitive nature of the content.

stanley kubrick· eyes wide shut· rothschild· satanic rituals· gateways

48:15 they can come for a short time but then after that, they have to leave because in frequency terms they're incompatible with this reality. This is why we have this network of interbreeding bloodlines and secret societies that operate in our reality on behalf of this hidden force. And when the Satanists, invariably it's another thing that happened is that when I started investigating and researching these bloodline families invariably you would end up with Satanism and

48:56 pedophilia, because pedophilia and Satanism are fundamentally connected. And so then you ask okay you can say they're crazy and they're just doing these rituals or you can actually say well hold on they may be sick and they maybe very disturbed but they're not stupid because they are extremely adept for a start at manipulating human psychology. So what are they actually interacting with when they do these rituals? And what happened then, again synchronistically is I started to come across many many people in different parts of the world who were former Satanists often against their will

49:41 And they started telling me what happens in these elite rituals, very well portrayed but totally underplayed and he had to get it in the film by Stanley Kubrick in Eyes Wide Shut. If anyone sees the movie Eyes Wide Shut, it was Stanley Kubrick's last film There's a ritual in it, which is a major central part of the film. A satanic ritual and sexual stuff and all the rest of it where these elite are taking part in it And he shot that at a mansion house in England Which was owned by The Rothschilds and Ice-Wide Shotty so full of symbolism describing this stuff That that was no way that you did that by accident

50:32 And of course he died very shortly after the film was not even released, but when he put it before Warner Brothers to see the foundation of it. After he died its reported that 25 minutes of it were taken out What was left was really in your face if you know what you're looking for. So, what was in the other 25 minutes? Goodness only knows! But what I'm saying is the question was when they do these rituals and the evidence that they're doing them to these elite bloodlines and families is enormous What were they interacting with? Why are they doing it and when you talk to these people who've taken part in these rituals with these famous people They tell you again and again that what they're doing is. They're creating an energetic environment In the rituals, this is why that they using the same Rituals that they did in the ancient world because the rituals basically create a fusion of

51:37 of the energetic field in the ritual and the energetic field where these entities operate from, where this force operates from. And it basically thins out the energetic difference between the energetic field of the ritual and the energetic field of where these entities operate. It allows a gateway if you like, an energetic gateway by creating often a vortex which allows these entities to slip into the rituals, not for very long but slip into the rituals within this energetic field that the ritual has created. And many many Satanists who've taken part in these rituals have told me how they actually watch these entities manifest

CHAPTER 14 / 20 Discussion

Astrology as Waveform Information and Birth Cycles

David Icke reinterprets astrology as the interaction of planetary waveform information fields with the human energetic field. He explains that at the moment of birth, an individual's energetic field is "impregnated" by the specific state of the wider field. This perspective treats the physical world as a holographic expression of underlying frequency patterns.

astrology· waveform· planetary fields· holographic world· birth cycle

52:28 in the rituals, the major elite ones which of course are done on particular days at particular times of the year. Halloween and May Day and all the rest of it. A solstice? Beltane yeah because you know people think that things like astrology are kind of you know just nonsense. But it might be if you read your local newspaper and it's giving you a horoscope for the day, it probably is nonsense but again once you realize that the world is not

53:08 the solid world we think it is, then things start to change. You look at a planet and it appears to be a solid entity but in its base form it's an information field. It's a waveform information field And that waveform information field is moving through the greater waveform information field, the energetic sea if you like. And as it moves through it that information is being exchanged between the planetary field and they the wider field

53:48 So the wider field is being affected in terms of its informational state and its vibrational state by that planet's information field moving through it. And so when you then get a number of information fields forming particular connected sequences, what astrology calls trines and conjunctions and all this stuff. The sum total of those energetic information fields in their impact on the wider field is far greater than the individual impact which is why they affect people in a more profound way than normal and so we are energetic

54:31 information fields. That's what the body is, it's a holographic expression of energetic waveform information fields and we are interacting with this greater field as well which is being affected all the time by the information fields of the planets as they move in their sequences so this field is constantly being affected and because we're interacting with it on a waveform level we are affected by And when you come into this reality, what we call birth some people say conception. There is validity in that I think. You take on a certain part of your energetic field is impregnated by the field, the wider field as it is at the time you enter it

55:20 And that field is affected by where the planetary fields are at the time you enter it. Therefore, if you're born as I was on April 29 in that cycle, I'm going to take on a certain astrological energetic field that was the field when I entered it. Someone a few weeks later or months later is going to come in at a different point in that cycle and he's going to be, if you like impregnated by a different state of the field. And thus as they move through their lives

56:00 They are going to be affected by the planetary field impacts, what we call astrology in different ways because we are not the same energetic field. So therefore these changes in the field that were interacting with affect us in different ways so that's why they have this is your astrology this is how it's gonna affect you but oh! This is how...this is going to affect you differently like this and To understand all this, it's to go back to the base state of everything in this reality which is waveform information and from that comes the holographic world of the apparently physical. So what you are looking at in these satanic rituals by this elite is they're interacting with this whole

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Satanic Hierarchy and Political Puppet Masters

David Icke describes a hidden power hierarchy where high-level initiates outrank public political figures. He claims that former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan held a higher position in the "Satanic hierarchy" than presidents like Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton. According to Icke, politicians are often temporary actors following orders from deeper secret society structures.

alan greenspan· federal reserve· ronald reagan· george bush· hierarchy

56:52 non-human force that's behind all this. And one of the things to appreciate in terms of hierarchy is that the satanic hierarchy, in the elite Satanism hierarchy, is the real power hierarchy in the world and not the hierarchy you see in the public arena So someone like Alan Greenspan, who was head of the Federal Reserve for a long, long time – very powerful position – was higher up the satanic hierarchy than Boyd George Bush for instance. And people like Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton

57:40 Even though they were presidents and in the hierarchy of the scene, were higher than the head of the Federal Reserve. In the satanic hierarchy he was above them and therefore when you hear things like Ronald Reagan has appointed Alan Greenspan head of the Federal Reserve no-no! No-No! Alan Greenspan tells Ronald Reagan he's going to be the head of the federal reserve. This is how the hierarchy works and presidents are invariably nowhere near the top of the hierarchy, they're just here today gone tomorrow politicians father george bush was a little bit different he was higher compared with most of them but even he was nowhere near the top and in the end like i say there's two worlds there's these bloodlines and this real deep

58:40 secret society initiates and their interaction with their masters in the unseen. And then there's the rest of the human population that invariably, overwhelmingly doesn't even know that other world exists and thinks what it sees is how things are not like things are at all Right well said that's a great breakdown these things are complex but you lay it out there in a pretty methodical way that people can understand and you should have plenty of time to figure out the best approach and man I know we're running short on time i wanted to save a little bit. Of time for hope

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Electromagnetic Healing and the Distortion of Health

David Icke discusses alternative health with Greg Carlwood, focusing on the work of healer Mike Lambert. Lambert treats the body as an electrical frequency field rather than a purely physical entity. Icke argues that toxins, 5G signals, and stress are essentially distorted frequencies that cause physical and psychological illness by disrupting the body's natural harmony.

mike lambert· electromagnetic field· 5g· toxins· vibrational health

59:19 because there are so many poisons and harmful chemicals and signals in our society that can be tough to avoid. And of course, we can't trust the conventional medical system to help us but I've heard you mention that you have a trusted doctor or healer of your own that uses a lot of alternative methods to keep you healthy What sort of things are we talking about? What tools do you recommend for regular people to armor up their physical bodies So we can resist The Big Machine Well, I do. There's a guy called Mike Lambert, great friend of mine lives just down the road and he sees the body as an electromagnetic electrical frequency field and he treats the frequency field not the body because the body is what we perceive is just a projection if you like, a decoded projection all the information field If you look at for instance Wi-Fi

1:00:17 What is it? It's a radiation field which we can't actually see with the naked eye. It's a radiation information field but you decode that field through a computer and that feel, the information in that field will appear on your computer screen in a totally different form and that's what we're doing. We are decoding information fields And the world of the scene that appears to be outside of us actually only exists in our head when the brain decodes these fields into a holographic reality which is

1:00:54 the world of the physical. And so he treats the field rather than the body because the body is a projection of the field, the field is in harmony so is the body, the field is in disharmony the bodies in disharmony dis-ease and this is why we come back to what I was talking about earlier the effect of technologically generated frequencies they are destabilizing the feel the information field thus it plays through to distortions in the body which we call ill health and psychological problems. So, it's a completely different way compared with mainstream medicine of treating the body and its incredibly effective but there is another thing you see the mind is constantly consciousness is constantly giving out frequencies based on his perceptual state

1:01:51 And if you are in a perceptual state of harmony, then that is passed on to a frequency field state of harmony which becomes a physical psychological state of harmony. The mind is the master now If you are in a state of stress constant stress which is what human society is constantly created to produce then that stress is a distorted energetic frequency field. You feel distortion when you feel stress, and that stress from the mind and the emotional level of the mind is playing out through the body's information fields, and it distorts them! That's why stress causes illness, that's why stress causes heart attacks, that's why stress causes so many psychological problems

1:02:52 because stress is a distorted frequency, a very low vibrational frequency. You've mentioned it a few times tonight about toxins in the food and the water and all that stuff. What are they? Okay, in the decoded world they are poisons and toxins etc., appalling additives to food but what are they in their base form like everything is in its base form in this reality as a waveform frequency They already distorted waveform frequency that's what toxins That's what toxic additives to food are, toxic additives to drink are. And thus we are introducing... if you are looking at the energetic waveform level for which everything is a projection ...we are introducing into our bodies distorted low vibrational frequency fields where we consume this stuff

1:03:52 we are making them part of us and that low vibrational distorted frequency state that we call toxins and food additives, then distorts our energetic field and causes ill health mentally and physically. This is the level it's all going on at! And it's the level that people miss because they're so focused on the physical, the five senses The entirety of human society is founded on holding people's attention in the five senses. This is why so many people cannot perceive anything beyond the physical world, because that's all they can see, that's all they interact with us or they experience when you allow your consciousness to expand and it is not a case of making your consciousness expand

1:04:44 your consciousness should be naturally in an expanded state. That is natural state, what holds it in a limited state is perceptual programming. It's the perceptual programming that is keeping us in these states of P-like focus where the five senses are all that we can conceive And so when people say, I'm waking up. What does that mean? You're deprogramming because our natural state is expanded consciousness we live in an unnatural state of consciousness isolated from its natural state by perceptual programming and therefore the answer is not stockpiling weapons to fight the enemy

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Renegade Film Release and The Trigger 9-11 Book

David Icke promotes his new feature film, "Renegade," which documents his life and work. He also announces his upcoming book, "The Trigger," scheduled for release on September 11th. Icke claims the book will provide a controversial analysis of the 9/11 attacks and reveal the true forces behind the event and the subsequent technological agenda.

renegade movie· the trigger· 9-11· david icke· censorship

1:05:39 It's deprogramming from the program which, once the program is gone our consciousness naturally expands because that's its natural state. The programming – the perceptual programming – it's holding us in this unnatural state where we perceive ourselves in such limited I can't…I have no power terms. The answer is to break through the programming And once that happens, everything else follows. Well said and let that be the lesson for the day. The real conspiracy is based in frequency with a little perception management sprinkled in for good measure but believe it or not that pretty much brings us to the end of line you are the man and a true inspiration before we go You got to tell people about this stuff you've got going on now the new film the new book what should they know? Yeah well

1:06:40 You know, I'm in quite a period of creativity at the moment. On June 4th just a few days from now, a movie comes out you can access it via davidike.com all the details are there which is called Renegade and an American film company not a supporter of my work but just thought my story would be good story approached me to make a film and we did, made it in about four countries. And basically it's a fly on the wall film about my life and work and how its turned out is

1:07:20 I think fantastic, i had nothing to do with the editing of it but it's turned out fantastic and the premieres have gone down an absolute storm because the theme of my life is just the backbone of the film. The film is absolutely jam-packed with information about the world and how it works and reality in how it works and therefore it's about an hour and 40 minutes long And it's a movie that will have a lot of information for people who are aware of it, aware some what is going on. But its also designed to introduce people that know nothing about what happening to this information and I know from feedback from the premieres where people you know into my work have taken friends along to watch it who knows nothing about

1:08:19 me or the information or anything and it's had a profound impact on them. So I want to get that out as far and wide as possible, especially in this realm of censorship we have now. And i've just finished a new book called The Trigger and its basically two books in one The first half of the book demolishes the official story of 9-11, and the second part of the book reveals basically who actually did it. And it wasn't 19 hijackers from the Middle East. Although you know the theme is 9-11 that's going to come out on September 11th this year people will be able to preorder

1:09:08 pretty soon, by the end of July. And that's really important more important than pre-orders than any other book I've written because we want as many books in circulation as possible before the system knows what's in it because it's going to be, I can tell you phenomenally controversial and if people think I've been demonized up to this point well stick around you see nothing yet So the theme maybe nine eleven but what it reveals expands into the whole picture. What's going on including the real background to be a technological,

1:09:55 agenda and where it's actually being generated from so it's going to be an interesting year because the movie is great potential for introducing this information to a whole host of new people and also the book he's going too. Well, to say it's going to be controversial is like saying you know it's a bit cold sometimes in the Antarctic. So we'll maybe talk again in the autumn mate! Hey that would be my pleasure I look forward to it both the book and the film 9-11 was definitely a trigger for where we are now so it's a great title and your story is a good story so I look forward to the film and David Eich you are my spirit animal keep doing what you do and take care out there yeah It has been a real pleasure nice to talk to

CHAPTER 18 / 20 Discussion

Greg Carlwood's Post-Interview Reflections on David Icke

Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview, comparing David Icke's approach to that of Alex Jones. Carlwood discusses Icke's theories on climate change as a cover for weather warfare and the consolidation of populations into smart cities. He also mentions Norman Berggren's research into the "Ringmakers of Saturn" and the potential for future cosmic discussions.

alex jones· climate change· weather weapons· norman berggren· saturn

1:10:46 The power of Christ compels you, higher side chatters! Welcome to the end of the show. We did it. THC got its David Icke merit badge and i feel fine Seriously though, David has had a huge influence on me You know everybody has their preferred flavor some like Alex Jones Some like David Icke and both are ultimately saying that our reality is run by multi-dimensional child abusers So tomato tomato It's just my personal opinion that to an outsider, which is 90% of people Alex Jones' tone and aggression never mind what he says but how he says it makes us all look bad. And crazy But either way David has never thought the Trump was anything but another puppet He hasn't gotten sucked up in certain conspiratorial cul-de-sacs like a lot of his peers have and he is just as poignant as ever

1:11:46 I would recommend that anybody watch his near 10-hour presentation at Wembley Arena. I could find parts 2 through 4 on Amazon Prime for free, but just not part 1 for some reason and i think his best bit that we didn't get on the books today is about climate change First, you implant the idea that extreme weather is coming and it's because of human energy use. And yes you can siphon up a lot of money with carbon tax credits and higher energy costs etc But they're always robbing us. What's unique about this particular campaign is that once you implant the idea of extreme weather being a new normal, you can then use all your weather weapons without any suspicions and carry out your campaign to destroy the last remaining independent farms and get people off the land and moving towards controllable smart cities

1:12:43 To me that's absolutely the game. California has wildfires and droughts when rainmaking technology and ritual have been around for a long time, so clearly they want fires across California especially in areas of old money where people definitely didn't plan on moving or selling until all this happened year after year But you know that 3D meatspace stuff all does start to feel a bit trivial when the overall theme is that we are infinite awareness having an experience and we shouldn't get too wrapped up in identifying with the geopolitical chess game circus sideshow. So there's that, but I'm a happy guy been doing this show for a long time And today we reeled in a pretty big fish Thanks to Ron Patton from Paranoia Magazine for playing a hand

1:13:35 Of course, I think we all know David is the kind of guest who really doesn't need a host. And i know even in two hours i'm only going to get a few questions in and I did wish we could have gotten deeper into the Saturn-Moon matrix as well as a few other space related questions but he is right it's pretty complex to detail all that in a podcast but it's also a fascinating aspect of the Eich model for The Big Conspiracy In fact, I don't really talk about the t-shirts in the higher side store very much but i used the Archon Control design as the image artwork for this show because that artist did an amazing job and it's a great representation of an archon controlled Saturn broadcasted control grid. But anyway...I like that David cites ringmakers of Saturn. I really tried to have Norman Berggren on about a year ago. I believe he is in his 90s now

1:14:33 It didn't happen, but he presupposes that Saturn's rings are being created and maintained by some sort of ships or equipment going around the planet. It's wild stuff! And then even beyond this solar system what is with the Lyra symbolism and the Orion symbolism? And Sirius the dog star... I'm sure we could have gone pretty far down the cosmic rabbit hole. And that would be great for next time which it sounds like there will be Please, if you talk to David let him know that you heard him on the higher side chats just so he knows he didn't waste his time. We have a pretty large and passionate audience but it's also good just to make sure the guests we want to talk to again are aware of that But so much of what we did talk about is consistent with a lot of the bright minds for these troubled times we've been talking too I think a lot of us are worried about the same things

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Higher Side Chats Website Overhaul and Closing Remarks

Greg Carlwood concludes the episode by announcing a major infrastructure overhaul for the Higher Side Chats website. He explains the transition to a unified platform for both free and Plus members. Carlwood encourages listeners to sign up for the second hour of the show and teases upcoming episodes involving mind control technologies and the reincarnation cycle.

website transition· plus membership· joseph ferrell· 5g· podcast archives

1:15:27 How can I keep myself and my family healthy when i can't trust this medical system? How can I get out of this economic slavery situation so many of us are in. How can I really change my mindset like these gurus talk about what the hell's going on with the military and UFOs all of a sudden how can I avoid 5G but still watch the latest episode of Handmaid's Tale in a seamless buffering environment you know or better yet how can I watch Renegade David Icke's new film I haven't seen it myself yet, but it's definitely on the list. Of course if this is your first episode of The Hireside Chats, I hope you stick around! I do what I can to bring you the best almost eight years of shows in the archives no commercials No banter about the weather and no need to interrupt the guests to tell them my life story though The temptation is always there

1:16:18 And yes, the first hour is free and the second hour is part of the Hireside Chats Plus subscription. Five shows a month, The Full Archive, The Plus Forum, A couple bonus shows... yada yada yada eight bucks help me help you and get twice as much show in the second hour today we talked about our current place in the timeline the end game and the archons overall agenda. David thoughts on the recent mainstreaming of ufology clearly something going on there, and it really synced up with the last episode and joseph ferrell's ideas about mind control technologies i thought

1:16:57 And another thing we did get into today is the arconic hijacking of the death cycle. If they can control the entire 3D meatspace reality layer, maybe they've got a plan for the reincarnation cycle too! Go to TheHigherSideChatsPlus.com to sign up or in the very near future just go to TheHigherSideChats.com because our big website infrastructure overhaul is coming very very soon I invested in a great team, we are bringing the two websites together and yes it's a beautiful thing. I've seen it all working in test mode if you're logged in on the higher side chats then all the shows just magically turn into the plus versions You don't have to go anywhere different one website to rule them all

1:17:43 So be on the lookout for any sort of issues connecting to your feed for both free and plus. I'm working hard with them to make sure it's a smooth thing for everyone, but i should tell you to pay a little extra attention to making sure that however you listen to THC whatever app you might use is still updating and plugging into the site and all that It should be fine but just know we're in a transition The site looks awesome. It's all going to be great and I've got a few real wild shows in the works that i've recorded this week, and I'm going to be getting them out to you soon as well Until then it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood A beautiful day for a neighbor! I've done my part Your move Perception Managers, Arconic Agents & Interdimensional Overlords of the Saturn Moon Matrix... your fucking move Oh no You see

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Higher Side Chats Outro Music and Sign-off

The episode concludes with a thematic song referencing various conspiracy theories, including the hollow earth and elite deception. The lyrics emphasize that the "battle is won" through the mind rather than violence. The segment serves as the final sign-off for the broadcast.

conspiracy· hollow earth· higher side chats· music· sign-off

1:18:42 The world isn't random, it's attached to puppet strings Control over everything The 9-to-5 has tried to steal ya Now don't that job seem silly? Hello, can you hear me Or should I play back recordings from some spying agency? Wish we were younger and free. I'll be thankful when it's all exposed, the vast conspiracy There's such a difference between me now And the damn brush I hollowed from the highest high

1:19:43 They're calling out a thousand crimes. They'll tell you the story of everything that's been done, and they'll call out deception for the web that's been spawned. Hallow from the higher side! The earth is hollow inside! They'll tell you about something that no one else will Have you heard of, have you heard about the real since long ago? But no they're cartoon It's so typical me to talk about this stuff I'm sorry That's good and well

1:20:49 Did you ever hear the argument that nothing really happens? It's no secret And that the best is plumb. It's doubling your time Hello from a higher side They're calling out a thousand cries They'll tell you something the elite have done And they'll call out deception from the web that's been spun Hollow from the high side, challenging your past

1:21:42 And I'll tell you something That the battle's begun But we can't fight it with violence The mind's where it's won As the world, as the world Hello from a higher side They're calling out 1,000 crimes

1:22:36 have done and they'll call out deception of the web that's been spun from the higher side challenging your paradigm I'll tell you, oh, thank that the battle has begun but we can't fight it with violence The mind where it's won That's the proof