Ryan Bledsoe | Cosmic Angels, Occult Space Rituals, The Invisible College, & The Prophecy

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03:12 80 years seems like a long time to live, but we see plenty of people walking among us who never make it to even a moment of deep thought and big picture contemplation. Yet others regularly confront these questions because they routinely have logic-defined experiences or connections with entities that truly give them no choice—one family that knows this all too well is the Bledsoes. In 2007, while fishing on the Cape Fear River with one of his sons Chris Bledsoe had an intense entity encounter complete with missing time and spontaneous healing of his debilitating Crohn's disease. Ever since then his family has lived in close proximity to high strangeness glowing orbs in a prophetic entity now widely known as The Lady

03:54 So much so that people regularly come to their North Carolina property to see for themselves and often do. Chris's experiences attracted the attention of NASA, military intelligence, the CIA and agents from almost every governmental organization you can think of including members of this so-called invisible college of prominent businessmen and scientists who investigate high strangeness in the shadows out of their own personal interest Chris also exhibited the ability to pass on this spontaneous healing to others and has many examples of such including being brought in to heal higher-ups within government and the intelligence community, and their family members only attracting more attention and study from The Big Machine.

04:34 Well, Chris was here for an interview with me in 2020 that I still look back fondly on and he released his wildly popular book in 2022 UFO of God the Extraordinary True Story of Chris Bledsoe. Today we are joined by Chris's son Ryan who has been along for the ride since he was barely a teenager and has had many wild experiences in his own right He is also host to the popular podcast Bled So Said So And I Know It's Gonna Be A Good Time The paranormal podcaster, strange stuff experiencer and invisible college person of interest. Ryan welcome to the higher side! Hey thanks for having me Greg I love the intro never thought that i would hear one with me on the show

05:14 If it's okay, I'd like to say this is a major manifestation moment for me. This is legitimately the first podcast I ever listened to when I even found out about podcasts! I think I typed in conspiracy and all these different podcasts popped up and I was attracted to your picture. I was like, this looks cool! And here we are man so I do have you largely to thank for getting onto the podcast scene starting that whole journey. Man, I appreciate that and thanks for saying so! I have really been looking forward to this because you and i have talked a bit on an off since the interview with your dad five years ago You've shared some insights with me privately and showed me my first picture of metamaterials that apparently comes from off world or contains off-world elements very bizarre looking metal twisted up

06:04 And let's start there actually, assuming many people listening know the general shape of your dad story. There is a person in Diana Pasulka book American Cosmic she calls Tyler D and it has come out that this person is Tim Taylor and Tim is the one who brought this meta material to you right? That's correct yeah Wow tell us about that experience and what was like holding it and the effects that had Yes i just like very quickly backtrack and explain how and why he came to see us as you said our experiences started in two thousand seven right and. It was very difficult at first we had no clue what's happening what we were getting involved with,

06:46 We had reported our experiences to move on because we were watching like a ufo tv show and it said if you got a sighting of the move on right so we go when we report are citing. I have no clue was a cia data collection agency right where just like ordinary north carolina carpenter type family me my siblings were all children in over the years, NASA started door knocking people start coming from around the world had seen a documentary cuz there was a documentary about us that came out in two thousand eight shortly after we reported it. And it just kind of snowball and got out of control to the point where it was so much for us to handle at the time dad was thrown in the towel i don't wanna talk about this stuff anymore this is causing damage to my children they're getting mocked at school long story short

07:30 In 2012 he has this experience with this glowing woman. She's floating off the ground, she gives a lot of details about the age of Aquarius and stuff we had never heard of being Pentecostal Christians in the Bible Belt right? She said that she goes by Hathor but that throughout time she had been known by many names and just all this strange stuff that were like what does this mean And when dad reported that encounter in 2012 is when the CIA personally started getting very interested. So shortly after that is when Tim Taylor came and I want to say the first time he came to our property, it was October of 2013. He shows up

08:15 It wasn't like he showed up as a surprise like NASA did. He had arranged to my dad through text or call or whatever, can I come? And he's like yeah but it's my daughter's homecoming game this weekend she was always running for homecoming princess and queen and all that stuff so you have to be okay with going to my daughter's football game if you want to come other than that come on! I'll send you that picture of people from the intelligence agency going to my sisters high school football games pretty hilarious Just gives you a taste of like how interested they were anyway so he shows up yes all these badges there like cia nasa and our air force.

08:53 He had one that said Area 51, like literally I kid you not it was like a they call them lapels right? They're like these little printed pieces of paper inside a laminate slip and they're on lanyards. Like a Comic Con badge! Yeah it's like that...like a Comic Con badge and he had CIA Air Force NASA Area 51 NRO and that might be it I'm not sure but he shows up and he basically says You know who he was, why he's at our property. He said that he was tasked by his superior to investigate us in order to understand the phenomenon from a spiritual or religious angle so in other words when people get really read into the program and these intelligence agencies and they start getting deep into the weeds they are nudged by higher ups to say okay

09:44 You need to start studying things like Kundalini, mysticism, sacred geometry. They're made to study all these things. There's a Khrushchevism, the Templars." So he came to us to learn what he could learn. He had an NRO mission patch that he showed us which by the way NRO is a joint operation between CIA Air Force Intelligence and NASA. And it means The National Reconnaissance Office and it's like top secret spy satellite And he was in that plus all those other agencies. So, he had this NRO patch and you can look it up I can send you a picture of it or you could just Google it the all pat mission patches are public information right? It had a picture of this lady with purple hair with a gown and she has a trident like Neptune and she has a fireball in her hand so she's obviously a godlike magical woman and he is telling us She has been revered throughout all time

10:42 She's been worshipped in places you couldn't imagine. And we know she's real, and she's been tracked throughout all of time literally like Fatima... You name it! And basically he said like when you guys reported this we knew it was serious and He made my dad write down all his encounters with her and what she said and explained to him. He took that to the Pentagon but in this same little weekend when he was there To get back your question I know is a long-winded answer but he had a macbook with him and he opened it up in there was a powerpoint presentation and it said for the blood so eyes only, any who is like i wanna give you guys this presentation. And look if u heard my show are you know who i am in the slightest you know that i do not protect these people and i think its all you now

11:29 I didn't sign anything and i'm going to tell you like it is. And basically what he said Greg was, we have a small box that we're going to get as close as we can to the edge of this box and i'm gonna explain things to you just as close to the borders of this box beyond that i'm not allowed to talk about with you." He was like, "...and I would highly recommend that you don't go publicly and talk about any of this material If you had been telling this story six years ago, we would have shot and killed you and made you disappear. But we don't really do that anymore We have other ways of ruining people's lives And besides if you do go talk about this publicly on Facebook or YouTube whatever Everybody is gonna think you're insane and you'll look like a lunatic So that's your call if you want to do that but otherwise we would really prefer That you keep quiet about the stuff and you don't talk about this publicly and we were like okay

12:23 So he starts showing us his powerpoint and it has pictures allegedly of Area 51. I do think a lot of it is bullshit, and as you probably know or are familiar with they pump a lot of bullshit into people to try get people to spread their story and make the big boogeyman bigger and badder and scarier. He showed me a bunch of pictures of an empty room And said this is area 51. It's like whoa, you know what I mean? You weren't impressed maybe at the time when i was like 20 years old i was just like whoa but now i'm like you know that it's kind of wacky was just pictures of a room and death threats about don't talk about this

13:06 So he has these meta materials is what he called them or exotic metals, whatever. I think meta materials kind of came later and Tom DeLonge came up with that whole name where he was given that name to spend to the people whatever so i went first right? He was like I want you to try something I want you hold these medals and I want you to pay attention in notice what you feel And I was like What should I expect it from him? Don't think about it like that just noticed if you feel anything I was like, okay. So he put a piece in my left hand and I felt nothing right? And then he put a piece in my right hand and when I was holding both it was like an electrical current through my body. It wasn't painful, it was very gentle and kind of soothing but it was like electrical energy

13:54 Have you felt like a tinge meter? It's a totally normal thing used in physical therapy it's like if you've broken a bone or you have like a severe muscle injury they put these patches on You and it sends those currents through your body back in the jackass days. I saw them playing around with those things It's kind of like that but even less painful than that It was just like energy flowing through my body and I was like, whoa, I feel it. I feel it He was like interesting Then we went one by one and got all the members of our family to hold it. And all six members of my family, like my mom, my dad, my siblings, we all felt the energy. My wife who at that time was only my girlfriend was over and I was like let's try it with her! He was like okay fine he was kind of getting uncomfortable We put in my wife's hands she didn't feel anything. We'd only been dating for two months she had never seen anything that significant so he is explaining us after we all went through this little experiment one-by-one

14:49 that this is a test that the, you could call it whatever you want to call it. The Invisible College, the Illuminati, the high-level Department of Defense people he's indicated they go by all those names let's just say the cutting edge people in these government circles who are in the know they use this as a test to determine if people are for real or not as far as having experiences with entities and he straight up said that if you have had any sort of encounter with dimensional entity, you'll react to this metal. Because this metal he said off-planet I know if you read Diana Pasolka's book they talk about they pop out of thin air at the giving field and they just appear there or something very strange about this metal when my dad held this medal it caused his vision to blackout and like you could see the muscles in his arms pulsing tensing up it was kind of like jolted him he was feeling this really powerful interaction and Tim was freaking out

15:50 Why you? Why is this happening?" Dad was like, I don't know. And then Tim said he'd only ever seen any sort of interaction period from three other people ever so he was blown away that we were having these experiences So let me jump in just to ask you that picture that you sent me. Can I include that with this show or does it still have to stay out of the public eye? No, dude send it Let it go all right we're ripping the bandaid off imma make that cover art for this! Im not protecting anyone okay okay It'll be the cover art for this image so people listening know exactly where you can see that great because I've... You know I didn't want to blow up your spot or anything like that People send me things sometimes I'm not going to be the one

16:32 leak it or betray their trust. So very, very interesting now I don't want to go all Brad Pitt and seven but what's in the box you know what is in the box he said? You can go up to the lines of the box. How much do you think they know? Are they still trying to investigate things, do they still have questions. What do you think is beyond the lines of that box that he said he couldn't tell you might know more now than you did that day? Yeah well that was like 11 years ago that little conversation let's just say that they are not being honest about The connection in the interaction that they claim to have and I can honestly tell you

17:15 And only because it's still happening live right now. It's not for protection of anybody, it's kind of like get things done first and then talk about it later but I can tell you right now even just two weeks ago my dad was advising somebody associated with the Pentagon about disclosure and again it's like I only don't want to say that just because it's still happening. Well yeah let me ask it this way so when you say they're not being honest they're saying a lot of different things What is the narrative that is dishonest that they are publicly putting out there? Okay, let's look at the David Grush thing which just happened what two years ago three years ago. I can't even remember it this point He's this guy who's an alleged whistleblower

18:00 He's got this piece of paper, he's like I've actually never seen anything myself. I have this report from my superior and i am testifying under oath that i will be truthful about this report and he's reading the report and he's talking about this report plausible deniability and he's like people have been harmed They are invading our airspace it is a national security threat they have technology far superior to ours i can jam my radar systems this is really an intelligence crisis people and i have report on those piece of paper that says someone was personally and physically harmed. Really dude you're sheep your little puppet put out there to like the straw man that they set up so that

18:46 you can lie under oath because you raise your right hand at God and you're reading a piece of paper, honestly. And that's how they do it." And I would imagine that these encounters go back to biblical times and probably cover the spread between very positive and very negative. It seems like there is an ecosystem of spirits out there and they can be as diverse as people I would assume, I don't have experience. But it is interesting that when you put someone forward you cherry pick a story that includes someone being harmed which might've actually happened but definitely might not be the norm and might've been an exception to the rule which is usually pretty mundane at least in terms of walking away from the encounters. Not a lot of people seem to be harmed. Yeah

19:37 My take on this, after having seen and experienced so many things and have had so many conversations with so many people... Look. I'll be the first to tell you that I'm not a fundamental Christian. are true because of something that you just hinted at. You said that maybe this phenomenon goes back to biblical times, I think you're absolutely right! I think that this phenomenon is always here and has always been around us and a lot of the myths and stories of miracles in gods and things from around the world or because of this so therefore i think some of these things are more true than maybe we thought like stuff from hinduism stuff from whatever

20:19 My understanding of this, as you said ecosystem of beings is it's like the spectrum of existence and to me that includes levels of you could say like enlightenment or awakening. And it's like as you climb that spectrum you evolve beyond the physical and you become more of a spiritual or psychic dimensional being and I think that the negative entities or the evil and malicious entities are such that they exist in mental phenomenon. That you could think of a biblical description of a demonic possession, i think thats accurate

21:03 Now the government's perspective is that there are reptilians, through back channels they put out all this bullshit. Through a lot of these government whistleblowers, through Scientology, through Aleister Crowley type shit it's really deep thing we can get into if you like but they put out a bunch of this... They eat us! They're reptilians and they conquer in the galaxy and Galactic Federation of Light and Pleiadians and we channel to the starseeds and its like all this bullshit man And something that they want people to believe Like The Great Deception Is that this phenomenon is some scary alien come down in a flying saucer threat that wants to eat us and probe us and harm us, yada yada yada. I just don't think that's fact. I think in reality it's more like hermetics right? Or like the esoteric that its like a continuum of existence and we're evolving higher and higher and higher in scale of existence

21:57 And those negative beings are like egregores or mental spirits, or parasites that latch onto your mind and they whisper horrible dark things into your mind and make you kill yourself or harm others. Or commit horrible acts. Right I think the confusion for a lot of people who get into this stuff is They think well the big machine the government apparatus the big swamp these are negative people so if there is a force that is. Teaming up with the swamp the invisible college then these beans therefore must also be negative or dark how do you work that out of their, working with these people that are keeping the secrets and letting the empire go on i mean

22:43 There's gotta be some kind of connection there, there's got to be some kind of relationship. And how can we say that these negative human forces are engaging with this higher angelic force and there isn't a contradiction? Yeah, I think that's very intuitive of you. And that makes perfect sense right? If they're like a swamp or an evil empire and they're in line with some beings then it has to be dark... You bet your ass dude! And also i know for a fact because people in the Department of Defense have numerously told us not only me being present for some of these conversations but also many times to my dad well just particularly I might not have been around at that moment

23:24 But they have said numerous times, the reason we come to investigate you is to find out what these beings want. They don't interact with us. We are terrified of them. They make us basically powerless and afraid and they cannot control them." How can you shoot a spirit with a bomb? You just-you can't do it. It's like trying to take a needle and penetrate light. That's not possible. Your going to look like a jackass And yeah, I will tell you this. You might find this interesting if you read between the lines So there's this individual and i want to say he's a nice guy To me personally He has never said anything hateful or malicious Now as to his broad intentions towards humanity? I cannot speak to that all I can speak to is that to me personally he has been a very nice guy Right and again we can read between the lines but there is an individual named jim simivan He's retired now But he was the

24:20 Director of the spy program on behalf of the CIA. He's involved with to the Stars Academy he's a very big hitter as far as like government disclosure Goes which I'm sure people can understand my stance on that not endorsing that But I will say that we got to talking a few years back because in 2015, he met us The Bloods of family and he said I wanted to meet you guys personally I asked him a question. When did you find out about us? He had this little grin on his face and he said, well the moment you made your report to move on in 2007 every intelligence agency in the world became aware of your story and knew it was real is like you guys have no clue how much you've been studied by various agencies around the world." And he said, "...and I just wanted to come and say sorry that you guys were so mistreated,"

25:11 The Discovery Channel documentary was run by a couple of low-level spooks sent to hack you guys to pieces and make you look bad because at the time it was classified. And I'm so sorry for the way you guys were personally treated, but in someway we want to make it right." We were asking him all kinds of questions developed a little bit of rapport like I said on one level he's been nice to me can't vouch for his intentions for humanity I wanna make that very clear But! A couple years ago I texted him had a dream really vivid dreams Now i explain this guy's position to say that as far as intelligence channels are concerned he is one of the most. Hi power accomplished officials i mean he's like literally ran the spy program, declared us an operations on behalf of the central intelligence agency if you look at.

25:59 Contractor ranks which you know if you're like in the CIA, you're not a private or general captain whatever its contractor. GS1 gs2 gs3 and there's like handbook can you look at these ranks how they relate to army or navy. There's an exchange rate in terms of rank and authority he is two star general equivalent right very powerful figure now my point saying this is not the glaze him My point in saying this is that when someone at this rank and stature is talking to civilians, especially persons of interest. There are two possibilities In my opinion A directly lying running an operation B in a position that they have to be very careful what they say And cannot just say random things Maybe a mix of both right

26:52 A CEO of a company would not go to somebody, oh I'm a fan of Starbucks. The CEO wouldn't be giving goods away to a person who shops at Starbucks unless he was just like messing with them and intentionally trying to see what they would say or react or would be very careful for damage control so anyway he said a lot of strange things and i texted him one morning and i said i just had the craziest dream about you Jim. I had a dream that there was uh alien i say quote because in my dream it was like this mental parasite like an egregore and I said, in my dream this mental alien force was possessing people in the highest ranks of the government and military. And in my dream you were terrified that you are gonna be possessed by this entity and then it will control you make evil things but in my dream you were okay you didn't get possessed

27:47 I was like, take that for what it's worth. Maybe it's just a dream and he literally just text me back He was like maybe it's not a dream Yes man! I am always curious how the dream world Relate to the spirit world but say because t towns and brown had an experience where the invisible college he was working with a kind of left for awhile. And then one night he and his daughter had the same dream that ufo is landed on their property and beans brought back material from the work on again when he, brought this up they basically said yeah that was us so it kind of insinuates that there is a way to penetrate dreams to actually travel to someone's inner world. And cause events so i don't know very strange but it seems like he has some insight into the realness of the dreamworld too, man there is really just so many places to go

28:45 So another big reason that we set up this interview was because of the strange situation with the sean ryan show and it seems like small potatoes compared to how deep we got so quickly but. I already expressed a little skepticism about that show and then i saw your post that your dad didn't interview with him and then the release was delayed and you wrote, Sean then revealed via a phone call with your mutual friend that the interview will not air due to the fact that quote sean amongst other things cannot be associated with elements of your story and you posted this publicly and after the public pressure i think thats when the show did come out it was two days later yeah so I mean its curious to me because he has all these big UFO disclosure military guys on im sure hes had grush on

29:34 I'm sure he's had Lou Elizondo on. So, he has your dad on and then it's like eh we don't really like parts of this story what do you think those elements were? Well i know exactly what they were and don't you find it hilarious that after all that public pressure in days of people trolling his social media which i did not think was going to happen by the way that was not my intention That was kind of a shocking moment for me But it's so funny that a couple days later. He he released the episode and called it the episode We never censored yeah, yeah, oh I expected him to say something in the intro to it but he didn't even really reference It is just the name of the episode clearly the drama speaks for itself but a lot of people probably had no context for why was called that So here's the thing

30:24 Two days after our episode aired, he put out Diana Pasolka and then I think it was a few days after that he put out Lou Elizondo. Or it was some alien vainglorious peddler And on one hand privately to our mutual friend He claimed that our story was not on his content roadmap anymore. He had all these reasons why wasn't gonna come out It's just not on her content road map We're not talking aliens right now And then he puts ours out and then two more UFO shows come out. So it's like, really dude? I've been told by two different people that he got a call from someone in the CIA now you might be thinking what dude He's ex-CIA why'd you trust him? I don't know The guy that connected us was like i'm telling you dude. He's one of the good ones and i'm like

31:08 All right, cool. It's a big platform." I didn't think that any of this would happen. I was told by our mutual friend that like dude he gets calls from the Pentagon or whatever all the time saying you're revealing too much crap man and like...I was made to understand that he is bucking the system and he doesn't care. And then it's now I know it's a different story. Right? I know that he's more or less controlled at least that's what it appears based on my personal interaction with him. I don't know that for fact Wink wink, but yeah so we recorded with him. It was an amazing show in person by the way Greg something that we do my dad and I started doing this two or three years ago That when we are doing a show in person with somebody We say let's guy watch first So that you can see this with your own eyes And then we can have something to talk about it's interesting material But also like we don't really have to explain the whole it's just we can all be on the same page

32:04 So if I was in Tampa with you, is that okay that I said that? Yeah. All right or if you were North Carolina with me no questions asked I'd be like let's do a sky watch man let's go see it. I offered him to do that when we drove to Tennessee and he was like yeah sounds great the night before the show he dodged me completely ghosted me blew off this guy watch which right there should have been red flag. I had to text his assistant and be like where am I going tomorrow sent me the address whatever I get there the next day, he's like super nice. So excited to meet you guys! Oh my god!" He was all like, "'I've been hearing a lot about you.' I talked to Brandon Fugel about you guys." Because my dad has been on one of the Skinwalker shows so he crossed paths with Brandon Fugel a few times. He was like, "'I was at Skinwalker and I was talking to Brandon Fugel about what you guys got going on. I've been checking into y'all and this is really exciting. I can't wait to talk about this stuff.'"

32:59 after the show aired his jaw was dropped he was like oh my god this makes so much sense, he seen orbs dude he's seen it before and he told us a story who is i got really know what it meant but now it all make sense to me he was like your ego this is amazing i want to do apart too maybe i can come to phil in sky watch. And he was all like, oh man. The reason I didn't sky watch last night was because tomorrow I'm flying out to Trump Tower to interview JD Vance and I wish I'd canceled that. I would have rather sky watched with you guys it was just all this glowing like He was just glowing like this is so amazing and me and dad are like fuck yeah That was awesome! And then the days go by and it's like radio silence He told me would be out in a month October comes around. I'm like huh? Haven't heard anything about it

33:45 November comes around, it's because we recorded in September. November comes around and I'm starting to sweat a little bit. I'm like what's going on here? He told me a month so I emailed his assistant who says hey check it in when is the episode coming out she said January 23rd okay that's kind of far out there but whatever December comes around I start to think in my gut this isn't gonna happen I get a weird feeling about this and then I get a text message from our mutual friend who introduced us and it was a screenshot of a text message that said Not gonna air the episode blood so made claims that i need to think about what. Just two months ago you were saying this was like the most interesting shit ever and you know so i what changed and then january comes around,

34:30 I get more messages from our mutual friend basically saying just got off the phone with him it's straight up not gonna air yada yada yada and then i start getting messages from other people in his crew and they're like yeah he gets calls all the time so like anyway the thing, i know you asked a question. I was just explaining how the dominoes fell there the thing that he didn't want to be associated with was my dad was telling history about the lady And if you're familiar with that encounter, she gave a star alignment and she said that when the star alignment happens that there would be more or less of new knowledge. We would kind of shift to it new way of thinking. Yes I actually think he did talk about this in the interview we did but it hadn't been fleshed out as much as it is now and now a lot of people are talking about this but yes seems like were year out tell us about this situation

35:21 Yeah, and I think it's very important to-I mean it's kind of too late at this point and people know us as predicting a date or whatever but she actually didn't ever give a date. People in NASA did give that date but I do believe that the date corroborates and it makes sense But she just said there's going to be a star alignment It's when the Sphinx is aligned with the Star Regulus And Leo just before dawn or whatever and dad was explaining this and he said you know I believe it's the return and Sean said Of Christ? And dad was like, well yeah or no maybe the lady. Maybe it's beings it's the heavenly host I don't know but I think a piece of heaven is coming to help us in the final cut he cut a lot of the pauses and other elements of that conversation to condense it down and try to spin on us and make it look like we're

36:13 trying to predict the literal return of Jesus Christ, which is not the way the conversation went. But whatever." Some people online they say that there's an earthquake associated did the lady say that? I'm not familiar with that Okay i just read this prediction you know people say all kinds of stuff in a game of telephone online but the one thing i had read most But most recently was that a lot of people were saying, or this conversation was being had that the event that was supposed to coordinate with this timing was some big earthquake. I'd never heard that come from you or your dad- It didn't come from us no. Okay so good well it seems like we don't really know what it will be but when your dad took this prophecy to the people in NASA they ran their calculations and they said hey Regulus will be aligned with the Sphinx

37:03 on essentially what is easter of next year and we're basically have easter week right now and so that's really interesting out another layer to it that is interesting me earlier you brought up the patches well i watch someone who put together a little piece about this prophecy and they overlaid all the mission patches that have the Sphinx on them and a star like he doesn't say Regulus necessarily but there's all these different configurations of the Sphinx from above, from below side angle. And it's always with a star up in the sky why is this on roughly a dozen that I saw mission patches and different army Department of Defense patches like clearly this

37:53 Is important to them and maybe this information has come from other sources other than the lady i think it's a very ancient thing. Yeah it's obviously very important for them and if people really died deep in the pay attention, We started talking about this alignment in 2012. We didn't have podcasts, I mean we meaning the Bledsoes, we didn't have podcasts yet, we didn't have a book, we were just taking whatever little program would give us an interview so we were like more or less getting out there publicly in some capacity but we were talking about this alignment since 2012 if you notice in the past five years there's been people from the government people in the CIA Pentagon people like Lou Elizondo

38:38 Coming out and being like there's gonna be an impending shift in twenty twenty five actually there's gonna be one in twenty twenty seven there's people from the literal government coming out and of course poisoning, the water they're trying to like change people's perception of things and mix lies and with a bit of truth cuz that's what they do that's their mo. But they have been talking about some sort of impending shift Ever since we can public with that information you think they're trying to get ahead of it and try to make a scary thing when the source the information seems like it's gonna be a positive thing. Man is just such a tangled web because I know what my conspiracy mind, i'm always very guarded about being accepted into accepting something as good that is truly not good and

39:29 You read a book like jacques vallée's messengers of deception and it's like yeah what are these things. And it's not like every good or bad entity has to wear label that describes their orientation negative forces try to act good too, when favor so that being there it becomes really tough for People who don't have the first hand experience to accept that something good would happen because it's just easy to be like oh i bet they said they were good and then they're gonna suck all our blood or whatever the hell but obviously there is good and bad in the world but you just have to boil down to what was said has this entity ever done anything negative not your life not your family's life I mean your dad was healed. And then also developed a healing ability now

40:20 There's so many layers like people could say, well yeah this entity healed one man and had one man become an advocate for that being. And who knows what this beings larger intent is just like you were describing people from intelligence come to your house and they're very nice but they also work in some programs that aren't so nice it's just difficult to sort out I'm sending a video now by the way that's why i'm looking down at my phone i'm sending it to you on Twitter Just for example of this past weekend And also I want to say they've at this point being almost 20 years we've been doing this now, they've healed dozens and dozens and dozens of people.

40:57 And let me bring something up there because I know the audience is going to just ream me if i don't and we're getting close to an hour but when I talked to your dad, We talked about him trying to heal. Me? I've been deaf in my right ear since I was three so it just seems like a really good test because this is the sort of thing any doctor would say you cannot heal that It's impossible There's no technology And he said he would work on it. I think he asked me to send a photo and a lock of hair, if i remember correctly which i understand like energy frequency you gotta have a piece of a person and then nothing really happened and i know you had messaged me that i think you had a family tragedy around this time and i know he's blowing up in popularity so my cousin overdosed at that time oh sorry to hear that i'm sure

41:50 rural areas in the Bible Belt, that's very common. I mean it's getting to be common everywhere but sorry to hear that but for the audience to update them on and it just seems like maybe he got too busy and was dealing with family stuff and it just didn't happen we can't say it was a failure necessarily but maybe you just didn't happen to your knowledge. It's also not a magic trick and its not ability my dad has Requests that people be healed and many times it does happen, and it's not something he has control over You know I do still think it's possible for you hmm man Well, it seems like I need to come to North Carolina for a couple of good reasons now Come on out man. We'll do a whole sky watch thing we could probably get some epic content about that Just hanging out. I would love that man will put you up yeah Let's talk about that. I think that would be amazing

42:40 Now that i'm on the east coast it seems like you would work out so i want to go back to diana pasolka and. This comes from her sean ryan interview actually probably the one right after your dad's but, you're kind of mentioned that these intelligence people say that these beans don't really interact with them or they just maybe they don't understand him fully in this to have a lot of questions well Kind of along those lines, when you were on Danny Jones he titled the episode CIA and NASA are trying to open the door to a spirit realm. And I'm curious if you think that's really what's going on here but here is this quote. I just gotta read it from her aunt Sean Ryan she says our space program today has some really interesting rituals associated with it

43:24 When it does certain launches at Cape Canaveral, maybe not all of them but the ones that Tyler was involved with. They had images of Roman gods and goddesses put on the rockets they would use Latin on the patches you know their mission patches and they would also have specific rituals that they would do sometimes involving US presidents. They would position the president at a certain point where astronomical events will happen They would just be position there so you know they're like stand here president obama and he would stand there with his wife and look in a certain direction it was part of the whole thing. And there were photos he has photos of all that, this is obviously some type of ritual i don't know why they're doing it i just know my scholar religion i know rich when i see one so i noticed that their using latin and i notice it was medieval latin now is like this is a particular form of what seems like its roman theology

44:16 So they were using the images of roman gods and i would ask tyler why are you using these images of roman gods why are you putting them on your mission patches and also utilizing latin phrases from that time period, i mean your sending this up to space who in space is gonna read latin and his answer was our sponsors. So to me that is a big reveal that you don't usually get there's a lot of spooky detail in there. I am a big fan of the overlap between the occult and these entities which if we're talking about them in religious context it's way closer to the occult than space men, what do you think of that? I can't really speak to the whole story from Diana and Tyler and rituals they do other then they have told us

45:04 as well that they do these rituals and that they even face different cardinal directions on the equinoxes and solstices with mission launches. I'll tell you another thing that they told us was all of Jack Parson's stuff was true, as far his rituals, Babylon working, creation of JPL and all that stuff indicated it is true. And you just said a very important thing to touch on You said that you believe that the UFO phenomenon is closer to the occult than it is to spacemen. I think that is 1000% correct, and I think that the modern government version of the occult comes from Scientology which basically comes from Aleister Crowley The first ever story of a little grey man was Lamb which was a channeling from Aleister Crowley

45:52 And there has been phenomenon recorded for hundreds of years, even in the 1800s people were reporting seeing flying airships or balloons. And over time the appearance of these things have changed as our technology has changed as a human race and have observed them in different shapes and forms right? I believe, I'm going to tell you some dreams that I had that were very significant to me. So I was 18 years old when the lady first came we were Pentecostal Christians for someone doesn't know what Pentecostal means it's very strict if you've seen The Righteous Gemstones and You see the people that are in the small-time church in tongues and singing gospel music? You know a really old timey sense That's what I come from Bible Belt North Carolina right

46:40 So you can imagine the existential shock when seeing these things as a child. And I was 18 years old, the lady comes she tells my dad which of course he turns around and tells me right away that she was known by Hathor but throughout time she's been known by many names and that she was the divine feminine, the hidden aspect of the Trinity of God. She said that the hidden one is Amun-Ra And I'm like, what? Isn't that that Egyptian character from that video game I've seen. You know what I mean? I didn't know what this meant. Stargate Yeah! That too. We loved Stargate growing up My dad was obsessed with it even before our experiences It was his favorite show but anyway so

47:21 I start thinking about this stuff really deeply. What does it mean? It's like on the one hand, I believe this because I'm seeing these kinds of things with my eyes and I know my dad is telling me the truth but then on the other hand, this isn't in the Bible and I'm a little concerned about how this meshes at that time I had no clue how it made sense but I just...I was like, I know this doesn't make sense to me right now but I'm just gonna go with it and it'll make sense someday kind of thing over time I started having dreams really powerful dreams And one of them, I was probably about 21 maybe 22 at the latest just out of college and i was still going to church at this point but I was kind of like over it. But I was waiting for the thing to get me out of it and I had this dream where Osiris was standing at the foot of my bed The only reason I knew what Osiris looked like was because I played a video game at the time called Smite It's like a little MOBA like League Of Legends or something

48:19 All the characters are based on gods from different myths and he's like a character in that game So I had seen images of him in a video game. I didn't know anything about Egyptian gods at the time just because especially Pentecostal Christians, you're like forbidden to study anything. My pastor literally told me oh you do martial arts just be careful not to get into a trance because demons might enter you Oh you're gonna do yoga? I don't recommend that demons my entry it was that kind of extreme thinking I didn't know anything about Egyptian gods right other than this little video game but i knew there was Osiris he was standing at the foot on my bed

48:56 And he had the green skin, the wraps, the headdress and all that. He's standing there at my bed in my dream and he is telling me things but there were no words being spoken I just had a sense that he was giving me important information. Then my dreams shifted and there was all these little frogs hopping around in my room. I was chasing them and one of the frogs died and I picked it up and felt really sad and held it in my hand then came back to life and started hopping again and I felt happy And now I understand that to probably mean like reincarnation, right? So I woke up after that dream and I was so tormented by this dream and what it meant. All day! I was working construction with my brother at the time because i just graduated from college all day I'm just like stuck in thought about this dream What does it mean?! This was so vivid to me but I was busy so I couldn't really dive into it until that night

49:48 Night comes around, I spend anywhere from six to eight hours researching Osiris and Egypt and all these different things which led me down this rabbit hole to like hermetics. And I found about hermeticism and was like this makes sense! This is what it means! As time went on, I started meeting more people in the CIA who...I would ask them questions and on the one hand they talk publicly and say one thing but then in private they say another And something that they would all indicate to me is that there into rosicrucian is on or the temp lars. All this stuff can tell her for example, the guy from diana's book by the way i was one of the people that put out his identity but anyway he told us in private he was like you guys should look into kundalini and sacred geometry

50:41 And he had a shirt with the Ouroboros on it and he was like, you know what the six-pointed star means? We're like no isn't it to start David is like No The triangle pointing up as the masculine aspect of God or creation and the triangle pointing down as the feminine and you merge them together And we just saying all this stuff. We were like whoa You know never heard of it. It was like you guys need to research sacred geometry. It's very important and Anyway, so I had that dream some people Let's just say in the CIA encouraged me to look into rose accretion is on there like it'll help you can understand a little bit more about what's going on so. I sell that to say that my journey has led me down this road of studying the soteric,

51:28 And as you study the esoteric, you find that the great secret is that there is a divine feminine. This is true in Gnosticism. This is true in Rosicrucianism. This is true in the Templar Knights. I'm not that into Freemasonry if I'm being honest and really care to look that much into it but... You find this theme that there's a divine feminine and it is like this very important kind of taboo secret force that has been guarded by these orders for thousands of years And it's like, huh? No shit. Yeah I'm right there with you where you go down these rabbit holes and then you hear what the secret is at the end and you're like that's it That's what all this is about people are dying over this yeah a lot of people say It's sex magic to in the OTO and stuff they'll say well with the very highest level it's just sex magic and it's like Well What Is Sex Magic What's Accomplishable With Sex Magic and then you get into the parson stuff and the idea that

52:26 I mean we are all affected by astrology at least i think astrology is a real thing the positioning of the cosmos when you're born has an effect on your personality so then if that's true can you game that can you intentionally conceive and deliver children at specific times for specific reasons And that gets into the parson stuff because the Babylon working is trying to bring down a certain being into a woman through ritual and can it be done i don't know but it is interesting to think like maybe that's what they mean by sex magic maybe they just didn't know what an orgasm was thousand years ago or try to figure out.

53:08 Yeah i always expected to be a little more expect them to have a little bit more of a handle on the big mysteries and sometimes they don't but. I wanted to go back to that danny jones title the cia and nasa are trying to open the door to a spirit realm, I don't think that's exactly what you were saying in that interview. It's a long interview, things get said... It's clickbait Yeah, y'know? I don't love that! I might try to start playing the clickbait game myself because it just seems to work so well for people but do you think that's a true statement? I'll tell ya what i do know is true They're terrified of what they call catastrophic disclosure

53:46 The literal pentagon, department of defense all these intelligence agencies they are terrified at what is inevitably unfolding right now and they cannot stop it. Catastrophic disclosure means we the people are becoming more aware of these beings in the beings at the permission of us with our free will allowing them into our world so many people oh my god you know in december thousands of people filming orbs It's just growing and growing and growing. It's hitting critical mass right now because of this, these beings are coming into our world more and they are terrified at the aspect of these beings choosing to come in and put a stop to what's going on with these government powers like whether it'd be war control... And I will tell you this George Washington saw the lady

54:43 Something that was recently put into our awareness a couple weeks ago when my dad had some meetings with I'll just say some Pentagon people and they put it on our radar as something that they take very seriously and Details of this are in the Library of Congress, and you can just buy this book. It is not classified material That's just out there You can research this so George Washington saw the lady do you know what book? I don't know but we can find it because i have a friend who has the book and he sent me a picture of this you could just google George Washington UFO experiences, it'll pop up. Fair enough fair enough not classified right? But what im trying to say is they take this seriously and this lady came into his room he's terrified apparently she sat there for like 45 minutes and hes in fear eventually she gives him these three prophecies

55:37 The first one was something like you're going to be the son of the republic, and obviously he was the first president. The second one was something about like the Revolutionary War or stuff that already happened. The third prophecy was that there will be a future time when there will be a great threat from the East that will seek to come into America and that the angels quote right? That angels will come in and they will stop this great calamity Which is kind of what my dad was told by the way, in a roundabout sense. That if it gets to the point of war where our suffering is so great that we can't bear anymore they'll come and stop us So I'm telling you this Gregg's so that audience can hear You asked me if I think they're opening up portal to spirit world? I think its quite opposite They are terrified of these beings

56:30 They do not want them intervening in our world. They do not want them coming in and stopping them from doing the evil things that they are doing to subjugate us, poison our minds and our bodies make us sick and afraid and stupid and lazy and sick and all these horrible things that they do to us. These beings don't like that. Man it is so interesting its probably a little hard for some people to take super seriously because there's been so many stories of beans with prophecies and i don't know if they just don't have a good handle on human time scales.

57:11 What these prophecies are always happening you know you can go back to george van tassel and he said that these beans told him oh we are the reason why there are religions we come down. We inspire people they take this story off and become even jealous eyes in our with our message so, Some of them seem to like to stir up these kinds of stories but they never seem to go anywhere none of these prophecies really seemed to come true fatima i mean even and so weird that they're all tied up in geopolitics too i think one of fathom is. Prophecy was that russia was gonna do something and it's like,

57:50 You were really vested in little human dramas when I would think you'd be more big picture and less telling us about geopolitical events. Of course, war is kind of a big one but what do you think about that? The fact that you can go all through history and there's so many prophecies that are either told to someone 1000 years too early How serious should we take this i mean now we're talking about a story that might be a year out and it's like are we setting ourselves up again to just be like disappointed by something that was said and we got worked up in the images didn't happen. I think prophecies are like a warning you that they can change, i think that the future is very my ability can change buy our free will and also our participation and this is what the lady told my dad she said there's a dark force empower scripting prophecy

58:44 that they are taking people and events, and sort of making them happen like a play or production even to script biblical end time prophecy to happen. To force it to become true in manifest cataclysm. Alistair Crowley talks about this might have been on your show but I heard this many years ago. It might have been on Sam Tripoli's show i can't remember but pretty sure you talking about this Greg Oh, you know what? I think it was Isaac Weishaupt. Another great friend of mine shout out great friend of mine But one of you three I know is one of the three I was listening to the show and it was talking about how Aleister Crowley writes about reenacting the drama of a god to reinforce them in Their archetypal energy into this place and that's kind of like what the powers-that-be are doing with The Book of Revelations They're reenacting it like a drama so that we in the collective accept it and this being

59:43 The lady, right? The divine feminine. Whatever you want to call her She told my dad that it doesn't have to be so that we can change But what that means is that we all have to sort of wake up and choose to be in like a loving positive state and not in a place where they're siphoning our fear and causing us to suffer from being in that vibration So it's like, you know is the star alignment gonna happen and then we all look up at the sky like Independence Day and ships come down? I don't think so. I don't think it's like that. I think that it's very metaphorical And in reality when astrological alignments happen eclipses happen certain portals activate It's not like everyone looks up. Ah You know the aliens are invading. It's not some grandiose event

1:00:30 To me, it's like an energetic shift. And then going forward the rollout of everything that happens is different and there is a new energy present. You know what I mean? That's what it means to me Right on. Yeah, I could see that clearly we don't have these giant events that span the whole globe they just don't really happen that way so- It just doesn't happen So what about people that also have like a really close connection? Your dad is known for having one of the closest connections to this phenomenon today has he met other people that not even in government but just other regular folks and it's like oh no you definitely have the connection to like how many of those type of people do you think might be out there. There is a guy that i had on my show recently named paul oglesby senior very fantastic series that we did on our show its six hours and two parts

1:01:26 This guy's amazing. He's an angel, he's been to hell and back and he was like pretty much on the streets for 20 years homeless for five years just rock bottom in and out of jail all kinds of just crazy stuff man rolling with gangs selling drugs just living the most low circumstance imaginable i want point had a demon attached to him like a legitimate demonic attachment and long story short by the end of it he started seeing orbs. And having these crazy experiences and just like save them out of it change his life around about is this magnet for experiences and he's just like the most incredible glowing human being add

1:02:15 The first time I met somebody else when i was like yeah dude you are the real deal and he sees orbs like every day all the time gets amazing footage his son is a little bit younger than me He's in his early 20s, and he helps his dad with all this stuff And they take footage together and they travel together. I started meeting him at these festivals at these group sky watches And had to have them on the show. I had to get a story out there Help him feel protected in the sense that I didn't want some other guy to tell their story out there and make them feel uncomfortable or maybe challenge them or whatever like. I wanted them to have their story told by someone who was like then knew what struggle was like cannot be believed you know next thing you know this past weekend we did this festival everyone's like when is the sky watch when it's a sky watch the blood says didn't go out Friday night we wanted to rest and have a private little

1:03:05 Recovery mode night because then Saturday and Sunday we knew we were going to go sky watch with hundreds of people So my friend Paul that I'm telling you about. I was just telling everybody good talk to him, man He's got you and they saw like a hundred orbs that night with my friend Paul, like he is the real deal. How often do these orbs because I mean, I would be interested in seeing orbs like I said that I had the night vision experience but how often to these orbs actually get within 100 feet of people are actually an angel comes out of an orb you know something that really says this clearly is not a star this clearly is not the space station or satellite it does happen

1:03:42 That's not the kind of thing that typically happens with crowds of people, although I have seen that many times with small group experiences. One of my best friends—he is a brother to me—is a guy by the name of Tom Barber and he is the vocalist of Chelsea Grin and Darko which are like my favorite metal bands. And that little magical access card that we're talking about allowed me to befriend the vocalist of my favorite band and we really hit it off, and were all into this stuff together. Anyway I've seen Orbs with him that are like very close five feet away with wings look like Navi from Zelda but yellow and they swooped down and they went right in front of his face what the fuck you know he's like freaking out it was a first time sky watching with me saw orbs literally 5 feet in front of his face

1:04:35 He was there with me in October when we did a festival sky watching with 200 people. And again, I'm with 200 people this bar of light appears about maybe 100 feet over our head is like this thin bar of light that was translucent and gray and then it started getting brighter and then it split into four orbs and they had wings and they were like glowing white It was just like this freaky experience, man. And Tom saw it with me and he was just freaking out like oh my god! You know we see things like that all the time. Just the other night last weekend not the one that just passed for the festival but the one before I saw a spirit run by my garage and these things do happen but i can't predict when it's going to happen The large majority of the time Greg were with a crowd of people Out of 350 maybe 30 of them are terrified

1:05:29 So whatever beings are out there doing this, they're like maybe we're gonna ease into it tonight. You know what I mean? We don't wanna terrify people and make them have to pick their brain up off the ground. It just depends on who you're with. With you, just come on out man! I'm ready to blast-off, I'll tell ya that. Well see what happens... Awesome. Well, this has been a pleasure talking to you man keep doing what you do with the podcast if you're ever in Florida You gotta let me know Remind people where to get the podcast? You've got a patreon thing going on giving your links Yeah, so it's just blood so said so that's on YouTube obviously we're all like X Instagram We do have a patreon It's a great way to support the show and otherwise yes Just bled so said so everywhere and I will

1:06:13 I want to thank you again, Greg because you are literally the first podcast that i ever listened to and if it wasn't for finding your show and getting into podcasts. I never would be doing this myself so like I would love for you to come out and visit in North Carolina And if you're up to it It'd be great to have you in the studio and we do a show and like go into what you're about Of course, I love it well We will talk in the future thanks again and take care Thank You Ryan Bledsoe coming in hot, spilling the conspiracy. Gotta love it! So often with these sorts of interviews there's so much calculation over what a person will and won't say what they can and can't reveal but Ryan seems just as frustrated with that as a lot of us are and he seems incredibly open and honest

1:07:05 I always try to remain pretty neutral and a little cautiously optimistic, but i'd say im a big believer in the blood so story. It's hard enough to keep lies alive with one person and then you rope all your kids? Idk that would be really narcissistic psychopathic behavior wouldn't it? Chris does not seem like that kind of guy at all And I do think they keep their story pretty straight. Some people debate small details online, but with this much contact and these many little stories from the phenomenon itself in the government context... Sometimes they might say a text sometimes they might say a phone call These are small things to me and i consider The Family not only to be genuine but not willing to be pushed around They're not willing to have their story twisted into something nefarious or threatening

1:07:57 And like I said, these things are complex. If a being or group of beings have a larger negative agenda they might be super nice to one family and get them to become advocates and help build credibility and rapport but that's really deep manipulation. I tend to fall on the side that whatever is entangled with the bloodsows is actually as it appears to be and does sometimes perform miracle healings through him And this connection has nothing to do with other connections that might be out there, but this healing ability has been exploited by privileged people and Chris has been honest about that too.

1:08:38 And I don't even criticize that. In fact, it's pretty telling that well-connected families with all the resources in the world available to them who have sick children exhaust the medical system get no results and end up desperate enough to bring in some UFO contactee miracle healer! I file that away as... if the system has nothing to offer people with every resource It probably doesn't have a lot to offer me either But again, I'm not one to say all entity encounters are good or bad. I hate painting with such a broad absolute brush but Ryan seems discerning enough to make his own assessment and i'm gonna go with what he says and I guess I need to be better friends with the bloodsows

1:09:26 I actually remember back in the day when I did a couple interviews with James Gilliland, who has a property in Washington state near Trout Lake. He talks about very similar types of experiences and orb sightings and that anyone can come to his ranch, his place and have experiences pretty reliably. And people have brought cameras. I think Jimmy Church went out there and Coast2Coast might've gone out there. He told me I could come see for myself and I just never did. But I feel a bit more drawn to the Bloodsow story. And if there's a chance to heal my deaf ear, well...I'll take it! On top of maybe having a contact experience and just hanging out with Ryan who seems a lot more My kind of guy than some of the other options for these sorts of things. Let's talk about that cover art image for this one As i said several years ago after I interviewed his dad Ryan shared this picture of the metamaterial with me

1:10:25 I think this is the actual stuff from the gifting field in American Cosmic or very much like it. But you heard the story about energy and the effects that it had... Well, I have held on to this photo and I was just thankful to have seen it myself And now we're putting it out there! I hope its not disappointing because people have seen it somewhere else. I'm sure I am not the only one who puts stuff like this out there I wouldn't exactly call it an exclusive reveal or anything cheesy like that, but I've looked at this a lot and it does seem a bit unlike anything else that I've seen. And I'm glad Ryan gave me the okay to share it see what you think? But when I have a guest with a personal story and credibility being such a big part of it, I do surf the comments in Reddit threads to see how other people generally feel

1:11:19 And you're always going to have critics, but most people seem to be pretty open to what the blood so say. A lot of people say I followed them for a long time. I find the story credible. I haven't found two comments where people said that they or someone close to them that they know was healed by this ability that comes through Chris just regular people without a major platform. I could totally see how someone would just go to the comment section on a Chris Bloodso video and tell the story The healing ability clearly amazing. The prediction is super interesting we have about a year to see what happens but the number of military patches with the sphinx and stars is so strange We will see I will also note that these beings seem to be pretty bad at physical time So, I don't really consider it something that the whole story hinges on

1:12:15 But I am curious to see what happens. I'm reminded of the Schwab show where we talked about these experiences and how they kind of mirror MKUltra type experiences, and maybe just part of the process for them or something that they think makes the whole thing work is a prophecy? I don't exactly know! But the whole Bledsoe story reminds me of this other story that I've told before. But because of the crazy wrap that's on my car, that does have UFOs on it a guy stopped me one day in a parking garage and said hey man i see your car are you interested in UFOs? Because I saw one once! And I'm like oh yeah sure what was it like and he said well... It wasn't really a flying saucer or a ship it was more like an orb that turned into an angel

1:13:04 And I'm like, okay now really interested. An angel damn did it say anything to you? He's like yeah it did and it healed something that I had going on with my throat with a warm light and then it shot back up into the sky super fast and that was it as I'm putting groceries in the car like wow cool man well have a good day But I liked that story. It resonated with me, it stuck with me because of those little nuances healing and something more religious whenever someone has a personal story that bucks the conventional framing to me that rings more true because they're willing to go outside of the framework and say my experience was a little different so to me that's a close match for The Bloodsow Story but The Invisible College probably just doesn't know about this other guy

1:13:55 And then in the disclosure hearings they focus on people who have died encountering these things. And there was that recent document saying that in Russia a whole platoon was hit with a beam and turned to stone or something like that Well, I'm not saying that's wrong. I hold the door open for a wide spectrum of interactions and orientations but it's just interesting how selective the disclosure movement is and how the emphasis seems to be on cherry picking the very rare deadly encounters And they pepper in some other stuff too because they're not trying to be so obvious about it But it just seems clearly slanted that way You might also remember another interview I did with the director

1:14:36 Alan Stivelman, who made the film Witness of Another World about a simple man who had an encounter and came away with healing abilities as well. It was free to watch on Amazon Prime at the time of this interview but Jacques Vallée did investigate that case personally too! Wild stuff, but I really liked this one. The second hour for plus members is great too more insights from Tim Taylor someone I consider the most interesting man in the world fuck the Dos Equis guy any detail I can hear about him or something he said i'm really interested in we also talked about angels and astronauts and what Chris was told about astronauts seeing angels up there that all of them see at least orb's if not angels very curious

1:15:24 And then we also talked about Ryan's time at the Monroe Institute with the Gateway tapes. All good stuff, one of my favorite interviews in a while I hope you guys agree and we will see if the ratings reflect that! Speaking of let's see the rating for the last episode Carrie Olahey really dark personal story One of the sickest darkest THC episodes in 15 year history I don't know what to expect. I would hope the rating here is mostly a reflection of how trustworthy people found Carrie to be and how believable her story is Maybe 4.6, that would be my guess There were some sound issues but let's check it out Okay! It came in at a 4.8 Very nice So relieved I never know with a personal story

1:16:13 It's very much a pass-fail kind of episode as opposed to a person with a lot of research where you might like 75% of it or something like that. But 4.8 is great! People clearly were engaged with her story and found it credible And now I do have to call this thing in, I'm getting on a plane tomorrow for Amsterdam and Monaco taking my mom on our first international trip at 82 After the passing of my dad, I just don't like seeing her sitting around alone in the house. So we got to talking and she expressed a wild fantasy of going to Monaco And i'm gonna make that a reality for her The Amsterdam part is just for me and the wife but thats fine! I will be back May 2nd and ill get right back to work on another month of shows But in the meantime here's what the meetup calendar is showing

1:17:04 We got Bisbee, Arizona at the Bisbee Social Club on April 26th. We got Springfield Illinois and Marjorie Adams Wildlife Sanctuary on April 27th also on April 27th Merritt Island Florida Kiwanis Park and they're talking about Frisbee and paddle boards so check that out! And then another one on April 27th Tarpon Springs at Sponge City Brewery love to see it filling up a little bit Then we have May 4th, Star Wars Day. Kiwanis Park, Merritt Island Florida that is the same as the other one so maybe they messed that up make sure you go to the website for all the details and clarify that those two events at the same place are happening higher side meetups dot com but thanks for using the calendar guys I think it's a great resource for our types of people to not feel so alone and to insulate ourselves for the challenging

1:18:03 Time we seem to be coming up on, but very cool. Check out Bloodso said so it is a great name and a great podcast let them know if you enjoyed this interview and I will catch you on the next one. I've done my part your move disclosure narrative curators entity encounter investigators and invisible college secret keepers your fucking from space. It was falling its light started calling it's making crop circles again Just as I was looking up it showed me all the hidden stuff And now i'm all enlightened and zen The masses is hard Silver ships are Now, I'm not asleep Don't obey the elite Gotta be into the How I start to wonder Now we're not the sheep that they bred us to be Gotta be into the head Now we start to wonder

1:19:19 See a new path of corruption crept Since the visitors set me straight I encouraged you to go When you see the saucers glow, I'm not awake The masses is hard Silver ships are my yard Now we're not asleep Don't hold our beam To the how we start to wander No we're not the sheep That has to be beamed Now we start to wander

1:20:02 Now we start to wonder We'll see these things up in the sky Just as the system starts to die All stated and next round they'll erase This time, we have faith Cause were not the sheep that they beamed to the head Now we start to wonder now were not asleep Cause we got THC

1:20:59 Now we start to wonder...