Topic: Mormonism

A tangent covers the work of the late Douglas Harky, described as a "Mormon Tesla" who developed water fuel cells and magnet generators. This research links to George Wiseman’s work with Browns Gas and HHO technology. Burr expresses optimism that "garage science" and the democratization of information via the internet are making these suppressed energy and water technologies impossible to stop.

The conversation explores the persistence of bee symbolism in modern structures, specifically the Mormon settlement of Deseret in Utah and the Washington Monument. Gough notes that Adam Weishaupt originally intended to name the Illuminati "The Bees" before settling on the more famous title. The hive serves as a recurring model for both physical underground structures and the organizational hierarchy of secret societies.

There is speculation that religious organizations like Scientology and Mormonism are viewed as competition by the CIA due to their own sophisticated intelligence-gathering and record-keeping capabilities. The intense media focus on these groups may stem from a desire to neutralize them as rival information networks. This framing suggests that "hit pieces" on such organizations might be motivated by institutional rivalry rather than purely objective journalism.

Rom X links shamanic trance states and occult practices to a specific 40 Hertz signal in the prefrontal cortex. He suggests that historical figures like Joseph Smith may have used scrying stones to enter this hyper-focused state to receive external signals. The segment explores the ethical dilemma of whether to teach the public how to "turn up" or "shut off" these neurological antennas.

The history of spiritualism is explored as a uniquely American religion born in the "Burned-Over District" of Western New York. This region saw an eruption of diverse movements including Mormonism, the Shakers, and the Oneida community's experiments with free love. Taggart suggests a link between the construction of the Erie Canal—a "superhighway" of capitalism—and the subsequent spiritual and social upheavals. The movement is credited with providing a platform for women to speak publicly, significantly influencing the early women's rights movement.

Dr. Gregory Shushan posits that near-death experiences and shamanic journeys serve as the primary origin points for religious narratives and afterlife myths. He argues that the sensation of the soul separating from the body provides a foundational basis for dualism and the belief in a spiritual reality beyond the physical. The discussion references figures like Joseph Smith as examples of individuals whose mystical encounters led to the formation of organized religious movements.

In contrast to failed global prophecies, the 1923 account of Walter Monson provides a case of a highly specific, veridical afterlife prediction. While in an NDE state, Monson’s deceased daughter accurately predicted the exact sequence of deaths for his son, mother, and wife over the following months. Such accounts challenge purely psychological explanations and suggest that some NDEs may involve genuine clairvoyant information.

The discussion explores the parallels between Joseph Smith's discovery of the "Golden Plates" and actual archaeological finds of copper-leaf books in North America. Analog notes that the characters on such plates often mirror the language of the Mi'kmaq tribe, which has documented links to Egyptian script. Smith is described as having occult knowledge similar to John Dee, using "seeing stones" to locate what he believed was the biblical Eden in Missouri.

Greg Carlwood expresses his aversion to religious thinking, viewing it as another layer of potential propaganda and manipulation. He argues that "normies" have a faith-based trust in the system that cannot be broken by facts alone. John Kirwin counters by suggesting that a personal spiritual experience with God transcends rational argument, regardless of the flaws in organized religion.

Elisa E. lists various locations where she recalls being programmed, including MacDill Air Force Base in Florida and a CIA training base outside of Tucson, Arizona. She mentions the involvement of Naval Intelligence (ONI) and claims she was farmed out to the highest levels of the Mormon Church for specific tasks. The segment also references Chauncey Holt's deathbed confession regarding CIA operations in Arizona.

Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview, noting it was recorded just before Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan. He addresses potential criticisms regarding "fear porn" and Skousen's religious background, arguing that scenario planning is a necessary mental exercise. Carlwood shares his own process of cross-referencing state rankings based on COVID restrictions, taxes, and farming potential.

Guest Cody Nacone, an ex-Mormon writer and permaculture designer, joins the program to discuss the intersection of drugs and religion. Nacone authored The Psychedelic History of Mormonism, Magic & Drugs, which explores the potential use of plant medicines in early LDS revelations. The discussion frames entheogens as tools used throughout history for spiritual communion and mystical experiences.

Joseph Smith utilized a seer stone placed in a hat to scry for treasure, a method he later repurposed to translate the Book of Mormon. Following an 1826 arrest for conning neighbors with magic, Smith pivoted from occultism to organized religion to gain legal immunity. The "Golden Book of Lost History" was subsequently rebranded as a new testament of Jesus Christ to legitimize his activities.

Early neighbors of the Smiths viewed the family as a "mafia" and warned others of their fraudulent reputation. Martin Harris, a wealthy but gullible businessman, was targeted by Lucy Mack Smith to provide financial backing for the printing of the Book of Mormon. Despite his wife's skepticism, Harris funded the project, though he later admitted his visions of the plates were "enchantments" rather than physical sightings.

Cody Nacone discusses the personal toll of his research, including being ignored by his family and receiving death threats from the Mormon community. He explains that the tight-knit nature of the LDS church makes leaving extremely difficult, as members often face the loss of their entire social and financial support network. The host compares this to the importance of maintaining a local network in California for survival during societal instability.

Chianetti reveals that the Mormon Church allegedly financed a secret 1968 expedition to locate the metal library, suspecting a link to their own history. He describes Julio Goyen Aguado's witness account of giant metal books and carvings. The segment also mentions a 1997 expedition in Argentina intended to retrieve non-human mummies before Aguado's death.

The episode concludes with a preview of the Plus member second hour, which covers Ingo Swann’s remote viewing of the caves, Nazi outposts, and the Father Crespi museum. The show transitions into a closing musical track titled "Bunker" featuring lyrics about underground shelters and societal plunder.

Stavish explores how ancient and modern religions, including Mormonism and Islam, are built around revealed visions of non-human intelligences. He describes these entities as real intelligences that can be communicated with through "psychic telephone lines." He also touches on the historical use of blood sacrifices as a way to provide life energy to these entities, comparing the hidden motives of these beings to those of modern politicians.

The discussion touches on the mainstreaming of "Pizzagate" and how elite child trafficking stories are often lampooned to minimize their impact. Lewis reflects on his own upbringing in Salt Lake City and his support for family units, noting that he was attacked by conservatives for opposing family separations at the border. He argues that people are abandoning their moral values for the sake of political tribalism, which he views as a victory for evil forces.

The Enochian system is unique in the Western tradition because it was purportedly delivered top-down by angels rather than compiled from older human texts. This mirrors the origins of major world religions, such as Islam's delivery via the Archangel Gabriel and the foundations of Judaism and Mormonism. Understanding these transmissions is essential as they shape the worldviews of over 60% of the global population.