Clyde Lewis | The Sunspot Conspiracy, Secret Agendas, & The Elite

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01:51 Here we go, Hireside Chatters. Hoisting the sails and setting course for another rocky ride through the rough waters of the vast conspiracy trying to keep our heads above water despite the rising tides of polarization and the crashing waves of outrage And I'd say...we're doing alright Of course the beasts of AI are off the leash and growing stronger every day, Big Pharma's addiction pipeline is getting way too crowded and clogged, And the multitude of problems we try to highlight are no closer to being solved. But hey! They say knowledge is power at least we have that...

02:27 power than today's guest, ladies and gentlemen is the superman of conspiratorial broadcasting. His name is Clyde Lewis host of the ever popular Ground Zero radio program and he knows a lot about a lot spending five hours a day five days a week live on the air year after year digesting and dissecting the latest high strangeness in covert ops Hands down my favorite host still sticking it to the power pyramid through the traditional tools of terrestrial radio, the king of the airwaves rocker of the mic and the golden voice of Ground Zero. Clyde welcome back to The Higher Side Thank you so much for bringing me on It's been a while And I'm hoping that we have a great show today because it's been such a busy time and it's been such a I guess a confirmation process in a way I mean like when I started about 23 years ago nearly 25 years ago

03:17 Everything was all speculation. Everything was all like, well what if this and what if that? And now it's like it is happening It's there and it's obvious that it's there Just as so many people are just not willing to see it or they're saying oh This is this is all made up but it's not made up its reality our reality is changing every so quickly No doubt and i appreciate you being here so much i know you are a super busy guy just with your demanding work schedule it means a lot that you would use any of your extra time to come and talk to me, hard to believe it has been three years since you were here and the culture as you say its radically different than it was then.

03:53 And i really gotta commend you because so many shows have gotten caught up in trump mania and really lost the magic that I think this genre is supposed to have but i turn on ground zero and put. Right back at my happy place so to speak i mean you know it's a given today cuz a lot of things were talking about her dark, but you're still talking about them and you're doing a great job despite everybody just kind of chasing after the latest Trump tweet. And really, the fringe shows—the fringe culture is really now just another flavor of mainstream culture talking about the same stuff and a lot of things are going under the radar and I just think you're doing a good job. Well thank you! You know one of the things that i've noticed and probably you've noticed too because I know you research well in what you do

04:39 I don't know if you noticed but lately, doing any kind of research into paranormal or any kind of research dealing with such. You go to these clip services, i have web sites that frequent and all these places they goto try get information and what's interesting is that you just can ignore or they seem too want to push a political view It's always been defined line that most conspiracy theorists or most conspiracy analysts or whatever you want to call yourselves. Or even if your investigator paranormal it's always been easy open up and talk about various things that would be considered political now is like this over saturation is happening,

05:25 It's quite annoying actually because you're trying to get away from it all and it's hard sometimes so what you have to do is become analytical of the movement of the elite, the oligarchy. You have to be very cogent with regards to everything around you because now the political is beginning to influence the paranormal. The political is beginning to influence supernatural. The supernatural is there amongst the political in fact I just did a show last night about the MPC meme Which of course is a meme that is spreading around the internet right now. And the truth about that meme is, is that it's using what I would call black magic. It's certainly a black magic meme because the image that the NPC, the non-player character as they call them... What they do is use this nondescript sylph like looking stick figure face which looks like the homunculus and their using it to basically attack or at least make those on the left who continually recite a script look like a bunch of drones

06:26 And the truth is it's effective and reason why is affected because it certainly medic triggers in that nature now are the new black magic on the internet so. What you got people practicing what most would consider alchemy, try change the views of people just amazing to see all this transpire was floored by this christian and shirji talking about this there are another great group of personalities out there that are doing really hard work and doing some of the footwork. And believe me, I was astounded by what I was seeing because I don't think people realize that when you see things like this pop up... Like I remember there was Momo a while back that would basically convince kids to commit suicide. It was The Blue Whale Challenge which got kids to commit suicide and people were saying well how is something like that able to kill people? How's that able to get people to commit suicide?

07:17 They just are there sigils and they're basically being powered up. And when the signals are powered up people tend to respond like putting a meme out there put it out there or maybe even a record that basically serves its servitory and these old magic terminology is that, Especially when Halloween we think of magic and we think of the lifting and we think about these things the idea something like this that has been unleashed i mean twitter actually had ban like fifteen hundred. Twitter sites for using the symbol on the schedule, They say it's political reasons but i mean if they really were to dig deep they would find this not just the political its mesmerizing and bizarre about this whole thing is the. I'll come out chemical makeup numerology all the stuff that people are using the mezzanine rise actually either pester or otherwise harass you see this type of magic,

08:10 Man, just going right down the rabbit hole. I love it and you're absolutely right we're constantly getting baited into party politics now in areas where we shouldn't. I had Donald Jeffries on he made a great point about JFK researchers You know It's been decades since that and JFK researchers historically have casted a lot of doubt on the alphabet agencies And their integrity but yet now The way politics is being framed as trump verse the deep state you're getting these same people who used to doubt the alphabet agencies now they are like on the side of them against the president and it were all confused during election cycle we have the tech stuff.

08:52 It's just like this president has been propelled to God or devil-like status depending on who you ask, but it is like a supernatural type of thing. And I got to wonder are humans even driving this process online? Or is this something else? No, it's not! I would say that there's something about it that is diabolical. I always have said in the past that most governments—or at least secret societies and What is now called the deep state? It's usually the shadow government or shadow. I call it the Shadow Command, you know people tell me oh The Deep State's an invention of Donald Trump No The Deep State has been around for a long time and deep state is A term that's been picked up and embraced by See once again another word that's charged as deep status charge But it's been picked up by the right wing And so what happens Is that we have people who are so afraid to expose the conspiracy for fear of

09:48 damaging or otherwise ruining the reputation amongst their friends who are part of a political party. Political parties are stupid, I mean joining a political party or being apart of a political party in my opinion is stupid. It's theater for the ugly always has been corruption has always been widespread no matter what party it involved and so it's always been conspiracy theory basically conspiracy theory is deep state term anyway its term created by intelligence ops to kind of belittle and use as pejorative but truth is that probably The best form of critical thinking that we have right now and so well, they're telling us well you know we give facts and we get this to me about doing is giving emotionally charged opinion.

10:32 emotionally charged opinion is said to be true you start hearing people saying. Well i tell my truth well no truth is true your truth could be very well crazy or your truth can vary will be far from the market just irritate me when I hear people say tell your truth know im not gonna tell my truth i'ma try and tell the truth, have i haven't been giving the truth we some honestly trying to give you the truth so that you doesn't out there the truth has been manufactured Most people don't realize that they just try to follow whatever their cognitive bias tells them to fall. I agree great point and it just seems like conspiracy has been mainstreamed in a way that it never was before and if you go back maybe 10 or 15 years, maybe I thought that I kind of wanted this but I absolutely don't know how did its actually manifested? And you talk to the public a lot more than I do and you have for a lot longer than I have

11:28 Have these past two years felt different to you through the lens of actually communicating with the public? Are they coming to you with different things, is there a different flavor now than there used to be with interactions you're having on the air. Well it used to be I used to kind of sit back and do my shows and go wow that was a good show or i'd say man that's mind boggling or man I really revealed something to my audience now I think to myself Well i'm real so my eyes are all pissed off at me for saying this or a bunch of people wrote me and said the snowflake here they set up a liberal there. Can be all your just quite lose it you're a little conservative my mom is always tell me she said you know labels are cans and beans,

12:08 I get really aggravated when people try to figure out what i am politically because they can't say that my cell phone why is it that you. Have to figure out who i am politically exactly change your view about me and i could have a meal on your team great no i don't care about your freaking politics in fact, I even send people that want to try and put me in a political box. They say, you know your politics are stupid but your politics for the reason why we have Antifa, your politics is the reason why we have Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer all these other groups. Your politics is the reason why you stand on the sidelines basically cheering on the violence in the air of civil war where like one big happy family at one time

12:51 One day you have a group of people that say, oh we really love dad but dads misogynist pig likes to go and grab women by the you know what need basically is cheating on mom but we don't care. And then of course you got another good boy we've got mom over here is an alcoholic with a sense of entitlement who basically telling us that we should fight against dad if i can get dad not loyal The worst part is that the people who are behind dad are saying, oh well God loves Dad. You know God is behind dad and you're like going Are you sick? Are you crazy so it's like okay we're defending our alcoholic mother and our cheating father And we're like thinking well We could have done better but we haven't and It doesn't matter because we're stuck with these two and that's what makes me sick about the whole thing and not only That but the twisting of political rhetoric with regard to

13:41 What begins when and where things start who's behind certain things like the deep state of course is been said to be an invention of donald trump really isn't or. The birth of movement is something that donald trump basically pushed started with reality was hillary clinton started because she wanted to, Basically play dirty politics with brocco bomb a back when she was running against him and now i hear her husband drudger where they want to run again and thinking no. No can we please pull out of this paradigm like we're not fighting over, listen that we need to open our minds realize it you know we need to make better choices if we need to stop giving into the brainwashing and that's why i think this whole meme of

14:22 The mpc is really important because what that does it's telling people are you organic or are you a non playing character are your person who recite the script for your person has originating ideas and thoughts. You express an order music to write do you speak, where did you just follow her most people content following the hurt in that part because conspiracy theory of existence What's to break the mold of following her and listening to alternative views. And understanding that everything you see cannot easily be put in a box now people are ok with rigid thinking they're okay with putting things in the box just as long as it satisfies their ego and emotional attachment, something is nebulous stupid.

15:06 Amen, great refreshing breakdown. I definitely share those feelings and frustrations and one of the topics I wanted to get you here to talk about is space because a lot of the time I do think some really interesting stuff is happening out there that we miss maybe there's too many flat earthers now or maybe Trump really is just monopolizing that much attention but one of the things we had happen recently was this sunspot observatory story I would think this would be at the top of the list that a lot of people would want to talk about, but I have not heard much about it outside of some random YouTube channels and of course Ground Zero. Probably the most provocative thing to have happened in awhile if you ask me can you walk us through what happened last month with this Sunspot Observatory? Well yeah, the Sunspot Observatory was shut down since New Mexico

15:58 When that happened, it was an interesting move by the FBI. I mean we had black helicopters and we had men in black. We had all the stories that are fit for cloak-and-dagger real conspiracy theory happening. And what was interesting is that we were doing a show and we talked about it. And I actually said if there's anybody out there who isn't afraid to open up and talk about what this is please call the program and we want to hear it. It was kind of like I pulled an art bell open phone type thing And i don't normally do that but it was very desperate and finding out information because i had a few conspiracy theories to make my desk like they were using the telescope array basically spy. I'm white sand because white sands nearby, record show of the ufo thing that maybe something in space with seeing we weren't supposed to see what was interesting is that at the time some spot was shut down there wasn't an anomaly that happened on the sun

16:57 And what it was, it was one of those coronal holes. It's where the sun cools in an area on the sun and looks like there is a hole on the sun. This massive and sending out all kinds of charged particles. What happened is that actually cracked so intensely cracked magnetic field of the planet. So we're getting all these particles oozing into the atmosphere And this was the excuse there is that we got these charged particles coming from the sun, going through the magnetic field. And no one was there to record it because Soho was down all his observatories were down and New Mexico site Sunspot was down. I was thinking wow this is amazing something happened on the sun or something's going on in space creating a mini Carrington event

17:47 And so, while every person who claims to be a conspiracy theorist creates a theory and it goes viral on the internet we got a phone call. There's this caller who calls into our show occasionally his name is Sam that's what he calls himself and he's this unknown 30 year DARPA guy Who apparently from what we understand is fighting back onto DARPA again I guess he's doing this because he wants to get...I don't know how being anonymous He has this warped voice that he plays over the phone when he talks to us Apparently i guess somebody got wind of what he was doing on the show and they promoted back in a dark for some final stuff. What is that what was going on if there was a project going on between harper, hammer and smack you call them hammer smacking and we were like thinking we've never heard of hammers back with her heart apparently according to him this is our own exclusive report, what are you doing is using something that's used it sir

18:47 to try and extract dark matter or at least try to use charged particles to find dark matter. And they accidentally cracked open the magnetic field, and they didn't want anybody know about it so apparently, the data for hammering smack in harp doing this experiment where there actually taking charge particles are using it for weather warfare is that what you're using a weather warfare basically trying to create storms And we have a weather warfare thing going on where we have this hurricane, I guess it's Michael that is heading towards the United States but then there is an even bigger hurricane or typhoon or whatever it is heading for China. So while were being attacked by Chinese hurricane and we were using our technology to make even bigger one hit Hong Kong. And not only that but they were six other storms they are forming because they're using such power and so

19:42 It was believable. And he's been on point many times, never lied to us and so that's our story I mean we were saying they were using the Sunspot Observatory and they saw how they were using the charged particles of the sun to create weather manipulation and it's why they shut it down. While that's the story we're sticking to because we got it exclusively its most unique story you've got everybody else can go about saying it's aliens go about this go about but see what's going on now is even more intriguing because not only did sunspot get shut down in early september we have the chandra x-ray telescope now in space been shutdown and shut down because of some sort of glitch, we have the hubble space telescope that shut down because it's some sort of glitch. We have this rocket was supposed to go the isf but couldn't go into space because of a glitch. And then we had report that you tube two nights ago with shut down somebody tried to post video

20:41 something that was about to hit the moon like some sort of an asteroid or some sort of a ufo. I've heard fleets of UFOs, i've heard rocketing the moon but just few days before that russians were actually monitoring couple star clusters and they were saying these star clusters look like armada of UFOs and it's really intriguing about these stories coming out And now we got there saying that they were neutrinos are being expelled from Antarctica, which would indicate some sort of an alien signature because. Calico in the clean guns are being tracked when their quote to cling on to track by a enterprise but the way they track it is your neutrino expulsion. Is that the exhaust comes out of the bird of prey?

21:23 So this is the type of stuff that's coming out of an article and then just recently they released some sounds from Antarctica sound really creepy like aliens or whatever but it's a whole lot sister shelf melting. I just wind blowing in the shelf melting no reason to panic, We've had all these things go down since the sunspot incident. We've had all these glitches and problems with spacecraft, we've had reports of something flying over the moon or armadas or whatever so a lot of people are wondering if this is some sort of an invasion but you have your people out there going this is bluebeam! This is bluebeam! And I'm laughing thinking no it's not bluebeam. I don't know why ppl are so hellbent on thinking that the whole alien thing is fake

22:05 I always get into arguments with people about how they always say, well these are demons. And i said no demons are spiritual beings aliens or biological beings and even now they're thinking a lot of scientists have come forward and they think that the aliens are nothing more than synthetic ones that have been in contact with people. These are scientists saying this thing you know the whole abduction stories and people being abducted by grazer the grazer really robots their kind of synthetic AI They're being sent down to monitor things and the aliens wouldn't come here they wouldn't come here directly that would send a robot first of the robots i don't want you call me synthetic or whatever.

22:46 And so that's believable. I mean, if science is really paying attention to this, I think that maybe there's something to it and I think we need to realize that we're living in times again...I mean its cliche to say the future is now but it IS now! It's down at a point where scientists are even considering some of the old stories saying that yeah there must be aliens of some kind because something certainly is getting our attention. I remember when Oumuamua, the probe or whatever It was a dead comet but this thing came out of the sky, interstellar space came in and almost hit the planet. Comes through it's this thing it's red its shaped like a spaceship and it's not a spaceship its a comet then what happens is something very curious gets over towards Jupiter and just accelerates takes off. And they're thinking well there's no gas coming out so how did takeoff maybe it's extraterrestrial that's amazing about stuff all bizarre

23:38 Yes you just ran through most of the cliff notes on my first two pages here because these are really the finer points of what's going on above our heads that interesting and I've had guests of course who talk about transhumanism in at the end goal is to create. a complex vessel for some type of spiritual entity. Of course, a lot of people speculate the elite are in contact with something non-human at the top of the pyramid there's a reason why they do these rituals there is some kind of driving force There is a reason why they care about Babylon so much and they always are building monuments and statues to the old gods or Prometheus or Moloch

24:17 And I think there's maybe a case there that this transhumanist thing, it's about merging man with machine and making us way more controllable on an individual basis rather than just big groups. But at the same time maybe they are trying to make some kind of container for some kind of non-human consciousness? Are you open to that? Well, of course I am because we know that scientists are looking at consciousness as The Great Mystery. I was just talking about that last night, Panpsychism is another thing that scientists look into now. Talk about panpsychism, you're thinking about something very paranormal, you know? The idea that everything has a consciousness—that's a very new age! That means the phone I'm on has a consciousness. It means my coffee has a consciousness. I mean it's just crazy but scientists are looking into panpsychism. Scientists are looking into consciousness as quite possibly a really good illusion

25:14 A lot of the things we do, a lot of things that we see are all agreed upon hallucinations. There's this mass hallucination going on and we all agree that it is reality but I mean once they remove the hallucination you know it would be in this area where it would be foreign and weird so all these things we see and touch and participate in are pretty much artificial intelligence pretty much like a show its like The Matrix And to go back to the Sun a minute, you have an impressive amount of knowledge about the sun and sun cycles. I hear you talking about it all the time other than the breaking up this magnetic field in this anomaly during the sunspot shutdown It seems like maybe some of the sun's activities if you broaden it out a little bit longer have been quite abnormal is that true?

26:07 I would say that the sun has been acting pretty abnormal. Yes, i would say that you know what we're going through a period of non-activity that every once in awhile we have this activity people panic about and i think they are not telling us...I mean they just sent a probe to the sun it's not telling us there is something going on with the sun wouldn't be horrible for billions of years we have this light out there supposed to continue for another billion more and really it's dying, and this would be the reason for all the problems on the planet just because the sun is dying. And we're living in times where they're not going to tell us the truth that we have sunshine for a long period of time probably haven't for lifetimes but what they won't tell us is the activity will be going on in the process that'll become very violent if the earth itself will become very violent take more violent than it is you can just blame that climate change I mean truly silly idea I just hate the fact that every time something like this happens

27:01 we have bad weather or something, it's always used as a footnote to climate change. And that really is irritating because what that does is it takes away the ability for people to study weather anomalies and geostorm anomalies and do so in such a way that isn't clouded by the whole discussion of whether or not its climate change. Climate changes there's no doubt but what they've done is they've turned into a bit of doublespeak where they're saying What don't you believe in climate change what i believe in climate change but i don't believe in the political technocratic term of climate change i think. If they wanted to be truthful it would say its about resource management is about resource depletion start up the climate,

27:47 It's about resource depletion, it's about number of other things. And they need to be truthful about geoengineering laying down the chemtrails messing with the atmosphere using lasers to mess with the atmosphere using direct energy weapons to mess with the earth I mean these are things that are happening that they won't report and they're not really conspiracy theory They're thrown into the conspiracy theory bin but the reality is if you research you'll see there's certainly precedent for understanding or at least trying to figure out if they are using laser weapons. Michio Kaku, when he was on CBS a while back had said they want to create lightning that's what lasers are laser bolts for form of lightening they want to create the form of lightning in order change the ionosphere in order to change the jet stream and that would be electromagnetic current going through the jet stream and I already do that with harp and smack and hammer all these other scalar wave weapons so

28:41 This is what we're seeing. I mean, look if they just move the date to 2030 as to when we need a change for climate change at first it was it's within the next 10-15 years that's another 10-15 years they keep drawing the line and saying we gotta do this, we gotta do this truth is even if we did all of things that they want us to do and even if we paid out all the money in taxes and carbon credits How is it that's gonna miraculously change the course of climate? It's BS, it's not going to change the course of climate. Climate changes and climate does what it does and sure we may contribute a little bit to it but there are other things that contribute to it. Volcanic eruptions contribute to it water in the air contributes to it electromagnetic current contributes to it

29:24 The idea of geoengineering with heavy metals contributes to it. The heavy metals coming out of chemtrails contribute to it, so there's so many things that are complicated here but they want to simplify it by saying the greedy oil companies are the reason for this happening or the greedy blah-blah whatever we need to redistribute the wealth It's nonsense! It's a political boondoggle. It's football again where politics have stepped in and once you make science and politics you get things like eugenics directives reproductive laws you get things like zero population and all this other nonsense they wanna push on everybody if you look around you see it's pretty much part of the game there saying well you know we need to reduce population that we needed do this with you that hey why don't we reduce the population five hundred million like a set of the georgia guide stone. These people are psychopaths in russian the cycle pass or winning,

30:16 And people just continue to vote for them they can't put them in power so once again back to the political again it's like, you're buying your own conspiracy ticket u love the conspiracy enough to vote for the conspiracy and the conspiracy doesn't care if i read status blue state is this date vs you it's always been a state versus. Cheers that and all we can really do is try to parse out the agendas by dissecting the things that they're putting their energy into that's what so interesting because obviously they're not telling us so, we have to speculate a little bit just buy seeing what they are doing and.

30:52 To revisit the sunspot thing for people who are totally familiar with that story this observatory is kind of one of a kind first on spot activity observation it's not like there's a ton of facilities that would capture something if this were to be down and, one thing sam said that i really liked your caller was he mentioned that. Of course it is part of this network but that it was actually hacked and not make some sense because why would the FBI come down and get involved in rating this thing of course the cover story was that some janitor was looking at child porn well you don't.

31:28 evacuate people, shut down the local post office and do all this stuff because of child porn. But of course if this is a giant facility manipulating the space weather, the earth's weather, the sun then if it was hacked the FBI would definitely come down and try to see exactly what's going on in that case there's a lot of reports that people were messing with antennas that they had hazmat suits on so Yeah we have the super weapons that most people are completely ignorant of and if other countries were to get wind of them other couples, can you hack into one will there you go you know possibly that is what happened there well they have them. China's one of the country said met today have weather control they have all these things too

32:16 Utilize the sun i just think that people need to pay attention other things in politics i swear to god you know if i had one more story about brett kavanagh doctor ford i was just gonna lose my mind. I bring this back to another paranormal aspect of me i was talking about this i was on tour with number of other personalities and, It was funny because we were talking about the Kavanaugh situation and I said, somebody asked me what do you think about that? And I said well you know I have approached that not the other hosts will have they're going to be doing this he said she said but it's interesting. The Washington Mall erected a 3D replica of the Arch of Baal which is the horn God that represents everything lascivious and lewd anything from sexual

33:03 Pekka dello sexual misconduct perverted sexual nature and also the killing of babies. I said that they used to sacrifice baby for this horn god they called it mollock, they call it bail and there is sitting in Washington DC on the day after this thing was erected to God bale and it was erected in Washington DC we have a hearing where this guy wants to be a Supreme Court justice All the talking about how basically asking questions about whether or not he was having sex or you was having sexual games with people like doctor ford and others. The first thing that came out of mouth by name is named shelton white house who's your senator you said to cabin isis,

33:49 Is it true that you and your friends pulled what is called a devil's triangle. I was going wow right off the bat devils trying which of course three some sex act, i went wow here we go with all about sexual misconduct sexual promiscuity and what was the chief reason why they didn't want cabin on power was because he said something about abortion instead of he would regress or return reverse Roe v Wade and i'm like shaking my head going that's exactly what the horn god bails about. Sexual perversion in the killing of babies and that's what they were talking about it was easy when i want to know now,

34:30 This is a very powerful form of witchcraft and sorcery. And it's going on now, and people who don't believe in that sort of thing will say they'll write off as nonsense but I mean if you really really really want to think it's nonsense just take a look what's going on the internet take a look what's going everywhere people are mesmerized and hypnotize to believe in things or to say things they never said before and perfect example Here in oregon where i live we made the news because of anti fog basically taking over our streets are mayor just basically sit back and let it happen well.

35:09 There's this video that was going around of a man who was in his car, who was accosted by anti-fobbies. They were blocking traffic and directing traffic and the guy refused to turn so this white guy comes up to him and says you look like a whitey! You look like a whitey! A whitey hater racist nazi whatever it is this white guys saying this to another white guy? You look like a whitey no sooner did we hear that in that video Kanye west goes to the white house and basically is there with donald trump so don lemon cnn has this group of. Non descript faces and one of the guys that's on their black guy,

35:49 Any says can you act as though he was a word that learned how to read this is what you get when you have. And where did learn how to read and i went white hot black man made racist statement if a white guy with the saviors it would probably be the worst thing ever, But it's a black man saying this about another black man. So you have a white man in Portland, Oregon telling the guy he is a whity and then you have a black man calling another black man out as this is what you get when you have an N word who learns to read And it just floored me. This is an example of magic It's an example of witchcraft in my opinion A special kind of witchcraft

36:34 The types being practiced by wiccans who love trees and the feminine power. No, this is something far more hideous and far more dark than we're seeing it before our eyes right now And if you can't see it then I don't know what to tell you but this is really terrifying to see how this is going on Right there's that he said terry contacts that you're so good at pulling out knows are the angles that i'm most interested in it almost as if not only is the getting us riled up online by saying. Charged triggering provocative things but also people on television these talking heads are being instructed to say just those same types of things and,

37:14 Man it is kind of weird that since we last talked about one of the biggest dust ups was pizza gate i mean this child trafficking story and we have these church candles like, use to be at least for a time the bottom of the rabbit hole child trafficking amongst the elite and they took that mainstreamed lampoon the whole thing there's no chemical act for you take the darkest dark secrets throw it into the front of the culture then just laugh at. Yeah well i know that but they tend to actually try to minimize exactly what's happening to remember back when they were separating families the borders. I want to hear it says something affect i said well i don't believe that we should separate families and immediately people are attacking me saying how dare you a bit your for the opening of borders in,

38:04 No, my record is that it's been the record for a long time. I believe we need to secure our borders when you have them secured and i believe that we need a better vetting process for people who are legal. And i said it should have been done immediately after 9 11 but some reason just got worse but it was funny because where i came from i was born and raised in salt lake city utah idea of family values or something very pervasive because of mormonism So I was led to believe that families are important, they're an important unit and they need to be kept together so i said so. But see that's a conservative value I believe the idea of keeping families together the minute I said this every conservative attacked me saying how dare you? I'm thinking are you kidding me Are you a person who claims to be conservative telling me That families don't mean anything because of their color or skin or immigration status or whatever Families are important

39:00 So no, I mean they left behind their values and kill their values for the sake of politics. If that's the case if you're gonna basically lay down your morality or destroy your morality for the sake of politics this world is turning into an evil place it's in the hands of the devil the devil has his hands a devil has laid his hand. And people can say that's not true but once again you hear that old axiom The biggest trick the devil ever pulls convincing the world he didn't exist that's what it is trying to convince everyone all that's not me but i'm going on, what is the devil if the devil in many forms. It's bail it a number of other demons that they're using movies now they're not using there was a movie called hereditary and they had a demon they use call time on nobody else who pie money is they don't have never heard of my mom

39:55 Mesopotamian jinn grants wishes and he's kind of a demonic. I don't know that so there is nothing more scary than having a place haunted or movie that demonstrates another demon i mean when you say this is it arch the bail nobody knows who bail is all they know is satan well you know what grow up their morgue demons out there now they're unleashing And not all of them can be cured or thrown away by holding your hand to the square and saying, in the name of Jesus I rebuke you. It doesn't work anymore! Some of them yeah... it's like Jesus is like the antibiotic for all demons but there are some demons that are resistant to this because they're older and exist in other times and other religions have created them The Djinn, the other characters out there that are these demons Pazuzu was a popular one

40:46 People don't know their demons and i don't expect them to tell people that this is the way it is no it's not that way this way no. No preacher not very many of them anyway have the ability to tell their flocks that there something a lot darker a lot deeper than scarier, Then just a satan i mean things nothing compared to these other demons that's what they call him chief demons is because there terrifying. They do things and they don't listen they don't listen to the call of god they don't answer anything but themselves their arrogant like, The vampires can now appear in sunlight. Sunlight doesn't bother them anymore, and vampires can walk into churches without problems anymore Why? Because the order of heaven and the order of hell have changed Heaven and hell are not in sync anymore They're out of sync And that's why things are they way they are Everything has been toppled everything has been changed

41:38 Something has changed the rules of the game and with a game being changed you have to get yourself in the game and be that came or manipulate the game back in your favor. The people don't realize that they think everything's the same old same ol every day no you're right you've been right all along things are change, not the same spin period time we say maybe two three years but i think it's longer than i can spend period time to change the rules This is why we have mandela effects and we have faulty recall when we have all these things because the rules haven't changed things are different now they are really different.

42:14 Yeah, man. I really agree with you because we do have rules and a well mapped out blueprint to our reality but it's just not taught to the common man so without seeking out that kind of information you just have no context for it but when you look at what the elite are doing It's clear they have some kinda secret religion y'know? It's not atheism! It's not plain vanilla Christianity And they definitely don't share that information with us But we get glimpses of it sometimes like in the case you mentioned with the Bale statue These things happen all the time, but I'm still a bit fuzzy on the wider effects because

42:50 If they are releasing demons, I think some people visualize a Hollywood-style Eye of Sauron entity swirling around in the sky. Some big epic thing but it's probably a lot more subtle or less obvious or easy to identify which kind of makes it scary because I can't tell how far along they are or if they've already been successful Or if we have things out there now that can be put back into box What're your thoughts on the status and effects of this aspect of the agenda? Well, let me tell you. For the longest time traditional Satanism has misled people into thinking that it's all about an archetype and that's true I mean it's an archetype I mean Levant satanism or the Church of Satan satanism is all been about archetypes It's not something they praise, Satan isn't something they praise its just an archetype to irritate people because there mostly atheists and nihilist

43:46 hedonistic. But right now we have a new thing, it's called theistic Satanism. It's spiritual Satanism which is basically religious beliefs that consider Satan as an objectively existing supernatural being or a force worthy of worship so when we look at it, it's been obscured by all these groups that have been considered devil worshippers who say that they're not And most theistic satanist religions exist as new ideologies because they weren't around. So you have these people who worship Satan is a spiritual entity rather than an icon and so when you look at the concepts based on pieces of all these diverse conceptions of the devil whether it be as modia's or whether it be, who are bail or whatever

44:42 we're dealing with dark pagan left-hand path, black magic and occult traditions. And it's basically truthfully anti Christian or anti Abrahamic religion ideas of religious ideas in the Abrahamic religions. So it's definitely inverse of these religions, inverse Christianity totally inverse or the reverse of Christianity you know they can be reversed Christians if you want to call them that are going to be reversed Jews Muslims but it's a strict interpretation of statement to stricter interpretation of the state in the christian bible and of course this may factions if you succeed. But we tend to figure out or attend to worry are not know enough about these powers and so what we have is we have a divergent,

45:39 form of Christianity, we have a heresy or we have heretical or apostasy type of activity. And so in fact if you read the Bible there is several parts in the Bible especially I think it's Paul who said something to this extent where he said that what's going to happen is there's going to be a great apostasy And you'll be seeing the darker orders assemble mostly dark orders of the dragon founders the dragon founder saturn worship for all these other. The approach is to lose a period so use it if i was that they drop from its inarchy assorted divine power,

46:20 Did they see if the power it's the dark side everything that we read about my. Star wars or whatever but it's definitely drawing from the luciferian values what began in the garden of Eden the tree knowledge good meal and conception is certainly bad which courses now being showing up for public square like arkansas and other places so they are putting themselves a position Where they are just as recognized as a religion is christianity or judaism any other religions so. Very powerful pack between various groups very powerful individuals in the devil and show you're dealing with something like remorium verum more we have the grimoires send the others to black masses back of the day you had the catholics with their malice malficar which is the witch book for the witch hunters,

47:17 Only with the catholic fathers in the ancient times chasing after which is there also chasing after real vampires and will we're wolves. It's not the world you see launch any turn into it so where will four people are actually possessed by this wolf type of mentality this will spirit, where they become cannibals. I mean, that's the true meaning of the werewolf is the cannibalistic nature of the werewolf and the vampire only wanted the blood of the innocent, the blood of the virtuous but the vampire wanted the flesh of both women and children And so we have vampires and we have werewolves among us and we have a few witches too But they're not these pagan witches but their witches that are delving deep into the sinister and most darkest powers

48:05 Exist right now. Well, I didn't know this was going to be my Halloween show but here we go. No, everything's Halloween and April Fools Day on my end but that's another story Yes well...I like what you're saying But that is kind of where my wires get crossed because the Abrahamic religions have caused so much damage too And i don't find a lot of altruism on either side of that paradigm But I am pretty convinced it's an important subtext to world events That we cannot ignore There's a real spirituality to things that is factored in and a lot of people are just ignorant of it. And some people have said to me that demons can manifest in ways that, of course would not necessarily be obvious and one of those could be as a catalyst for or

48:54 A disease itself and i know that you had a recent show about a new rare disease outbreak that's not exactly like polio but it's an, a terror virus i believe was called afm i think. Yeah the entire virus let's see internal viruses they make them sound so rare but they happen all the time but this is a strange one because it starts out as like a cold cough or cold So the flu and then all of a sudden you see your kids not able to move they become paralyzed. And so that's the scary part of it is that now we have diseases that manipulate and mutate, when they do people end up with the flu but ended up dying of pneumonia or they get the flu and die from polio or encephalitis or something like that

49:38 You know, there's obviously these diseases were probably made in rogue labs somewhere and just released into the populace. And you know any lab could be responsible for making these things and people don't know that there's that underbelly of underground sabotage and attack. It's been going on for a long time now and it's not like we want everybody to be paranoid but there are minority groups who really just wanna watch the world burn they just wanna see people die And that's the unhappy reality. That's true, and in this situation I think there was something like 60 cases of this disease but they were in 22 different states? And that's weird because you'd expect outbreaks to be in a concentrated pocket but in this case it almost seems like something was seeded across the country Right They call that a gain-of-function exercise where they actually do a trial run of some disease to see how it affects people and then they provide the antidote later

50:34 that they do this just to test how it will work on the public. They did that in San Francisco back in the 50s, they actually released a disease through the fog and San Francisco and people got it. It was a rash and it was very crippling but they were able to determine that yes, San Francisco would be an excellent port, an excellent area for any kind of chemical or biological attack. And people say well why would a government do that? Well here's another example you know there were testing nuclear weapons, you know in the areas of Nevada and St. George Utah and places like that which created downwinders people who for generations now have been more prone to cancers I mean i'm one of those guys because my mother and her family lived in Cedar City In st. George area hurricane area utah And they were subjected to the fallout from the tests that were conducted in nevada because the wind would blow it all over there

51:32 So many people on my mother's side of the family died of cancer. My mother died of cancer I've had a battle with cancer at least three times on my kidneys and i've survived it but you know It's always that idea that do you have that cloud of doubt? Over your head because there's some testing to the government didn't they all did it for the safety of united states That's why they did it, but now what's the illusion of safety we're always given the illusion of safety There's not really anything this foolproof People do things thinking. Oh this is gonna help like the tsa airport gives you the illusion of safety anything could go wrong if he get through the security there's no real safety, i mean people are vulnerable everyday your phone number the minute you take that walk out the door

52:15 Nothing is truly safe, but they give you the illusion of safety because they want to make sure that they can take away your rights and they can take away all kinds of other things just in the name of safety. Mm hmm. Troubled times indeed! And as we start pulling this thing together I did kind of want to ask you about geopolitics because there are many moving pieces on the chessboard it does seem like some things are going a different direction than they were going a few years ago What out there on the global motion picture stage show has really got your attention and your focus? With regard to geopolitics, I would say that the hidden agenda of creating scarcity. The hidden agenda of creating famine

52:59 Telling us that certain resources are gonna be around and they're gonna be able to control these resources. This leads us to the idea of eventually the men with a gun in the man with power going to be running this show there can be distributed through the water and pain medications. I always said, the secret to success for civilization is if i have good food nutritious food if you have clean water drink and if they're out of pain And those are the three things that they're going to be controlling otherwise you can't controlling the air but i have a hard time containing and controlling air. But it certainly have a way to control resources vital resources that keep people alive, no because they can dictate where the food comes from making dictate with water comes from

53:42 We're talking pure water, not contaminated water with fluoride or any other chemicals. We're talking pure water to edify the body. We're talking about nutritious food to keep people healthy which of course we are failing at and then the idea of pain and how to get rid of pain whether it be emotional pain, existential pain or physical pain and they certainly know how to inflict it but they don't know how to take away and the reason why is because pain is a great controller and pain is what is king now pain is the new god people want to be out of pain. Show that all ties together with your opiate crisis alt highest together with the process is food and water as always what is known as the resource everybody wants in has,

54:33 And of course they're saying that you know climate change we lose all that water so those three elements are what are at stake to continue our lives and if we're not going to continue our lives using food water to keep people out of pain. The best way to change everything is to render a six by making us all machines it's all this vicious circle today decided to create the people are aware of how fragile and the fertility of their lives in a spiritual nature or we need to be stronger for it look into it and try to eradicate before we allow, y'all got to take over and keep us from having those resources which really needed one for survival.

55:12 Well said yes it is all really about pain avoidance in a world that is just full of it also think softening of people and our endurance for difficulty has really been diminished as well so kind of like we're getting hit on both sides are just so many concerns at this place the timeline but. Man, I can't keep you here forever unfortunately. But again you're doing great stuff with Ground Zero all these strange stories about space following the trajectory of transhumanism talking about the impact of AI The creation of super viruses These are things we should be talking about if we could just get over party politics race baiting less than presidential tweets

55:54 So, you know kudos to you for sticking to your guns. Remind the people of the ways in which they can catch Ground Zero and anything else you might want a plug before we call it in Well what's again my book is available at amazon dot com transhumanist books doing very well. I also have a remarkable vocal geoengineering selling really well of course we have books on ufo's me a book some other things that are, yes it's those books are available to this right older copies of books people still buying those at the moment though the hot sellers for the transhumanist book and also the book The deals with geoengineering i would highly encourage you to get these books are very informative their detailed and not the same old same old i don't write like this in the same all you be getting a lot of inspiration from it.

56:38 If you want to listen to the program, there's several places to go. There is ListenToGroundZero.com, TalkStreamLive.com You'll be able to find the Ground Zero show there We also have archives available at SoundCloud.com slash ground zero media That's soundcloud dot com slash ground zero media we take five hours of program condense it down into three with limited commercial interruptions Also, we have all kinds of cool things like t-shirts and mugs and things available at the Ground Zero store. That's groundzerostore.org And be looking forward to another Ground Zero project that will be released within the next month We're working on a project called Ground Zero Aftermath which will be a complete Nexus Lexus of everything Ground Zero including a Kryptom library and an email is sent where I help you research some of the topics

57:32 that are on ground zero and i just announced it on your show okay so no one knows about not even my listeners, all your listeners are hearing about the new ground zero research site that will be put together we're hopefully to launch next month. We're working on trying to get a well stocked library of documents and research and I send out emails twice a week Give you information on how you can better research the stories we cover on ground zero and i'll be coming up in november so it's gonna great thing for everybody wow yes that's very creative you know he talks about the internet being this military intelligence tool that used against us and it is but its also a tool that we could use instead of just kind of complaining about how the sky is falling on us we should while we can twist it

58:17 And use it for our own benefit so that's great and in terms of the show you're doing an excellent job of bridging the gap between traditional radio, add a podcasting evolution i think much better than other shows that people be familiar with but. But this has been a lot of fun. You are a gentleman and a scholar, the master of your domain and a champion of the people. Thanks again and take care yourself out there! Thank you. You have a great time. And once again my love to all your listeners and all the listeners that I share with you. Thank you so much. Likewise. Take care man Alright, Hireside Chatters! The legendary Clyde Lewis doing what a Clyde Lewis does best. I got a lot of respect for him and his taxing schedule and his talent to be able to keep up with it all And as i sort of said in the beginning the real catalyst for getting him on was some of these space related stories and I wanted to hit them all in one show... ...and we did that even though it was pretty quick

59:15 But the Sunspot Observatory story is pretty weird. Shutting down the observatory, having an evacuation, closing the post office and then saying it was just because some janitor was looking at child porn? Eh... I don't know something very weird happened there I mean, as he said it was more than just sunspot. Several eyes on the sky went down at the same time but he mentioned a massive coronal hole in the Sun and we've had a lot of guests that feel like the Sun is maybe different from what we think it is Neil Kramer talked about his meditation and astral projection examinations of the Sun And he considers it to be some type of portal that beings come in and out of

1:00:00 Well, maybe it is and maybe it briefly opened and they tried to keep as many eyes off It as they could assuming some they knew about it in advance I'm open to that then we had the neutrinos being expelled from Antarctica story. Well clearly That's a detection of the inner Sun but not everyone's clued into the hollow earth truth You also heard that quick mention of Russian scientists observing colliding stars but actually wondering if it might be a spaceship armada headed our way. I mean that's pretty interesting of course there isn't much more to say than just that sentence, but its worth filing away in the fringe stuff bin because apparently they're asking that question pretty openly in Russian media

1:00:49 So overall, this was to me a great blend of wild provocative stories which I think we all like. It is why we're here but also the beginning of the show was important to me because i want to align with people in this community that avoid the party politics stay true to the alternative but have some intellectual honesty like have some level of reason to the stuff they're looking at It's a fine line. It might even sound like an oxymoron to some people, rational conspiracy researcher whatever! I might not be able to define the particular flavor that i like all i can do is present it to you and highlight it when it comes out in a way that i like no two people agree on everything but as conspiracy culture drifts to all these new places the earth is flat the president is our hero q and on sphere bean alliances

1:01:44 There's just a lot of very popular conspiratorial sagas that I'm not feeling. And I thought the start of this talk with Clyde was a good reaffirming of where in the soup, I want to be. Look we'll talk about anything here! The wildest of the wild sure let's do it but i think the last two years have really jumped the shark for conspiracy culture which is saying a lot But I do love that phrase and if you don't know it's a phrase that comes from an old Happy Days episode where the plot line is that Fonzie is going to jump over a shark on his motorcycle. Well, that's pretty ridiculous and outside of the box of what Happy Day was about... And just by having that one episode it sort of deflated what people enjoyed about this show

1:02:32 We all know that. I think we've seen ridiculous sequels to movies or remakes to movies that actually hurt the enjoyment of the original That's kind of how i have felt about what's been popular, I've looked in the mirror and I would put something like the QAnon stuff In our conspiratorial jump-the shark moment box And I will probably do a show at least one about anything that pops up in conspiracy culture That's what this is an aggregate but there are still things that resonate with me and things that don't Yes, I know conspiracy has always had a level of insanity to it. I love that! I'm here to preserve that We've always had whistleblowers and charlatans and all that stuff But i never saw them as the leaders of the community like they are now I feel like they've elbowed their way To the front Like let's take a classic conspiratorial example Of a pretty out there thing Like saying Hillary Clinton is a lizard person with Kuru On one level

1:03:32 It's probably not true, but I'm actually open to it because fuck her. I don't really mind going too far in our criticisms of career criminal politicians—I don't mind that at all! I mind the conspiracy community rallying around the president because that's a bait and switch like i've never seen and I think it's harmful. Sorry, I don't mean to talk Trump & Hillary still two years in like every other asshole out there And maybe I don't want to give specifics on every little thread, but broadly getting back to this show. I like how Clyde has conducted himself through some really rocky changes and i just wanted to give him the nod give him the high five and have him on to talk about not only navigating that terrain but also some of the wild stuff that has been out there lately that is really being drowned out by mainstream political conspiracy talk

1:04:29 I think that's the best way to put what i'm trying to say. To quote Clyde in this show, he says point blank it has always been The State vs You and BAM! Put that on a goddamn t-shirt because to me... That is fashionable in any season We are The Little Guy trying to figure out what dark shit they're up too What weapons are being used against us and how we can curtail the damage We're trying to look into those files they quarantine and that involves a lot of speculation but there is a purpose to it. So when you talk about that stuff I think conspiracy has a real core of usefulness, and yes, an element of conspiratainment...I'm okay with being both! But if you look at the craziest THC episodes they're usually followed up by something more practical or academic

1:05:19 Anyway, after the first hour today in The Plus Show we talked about even more practical things because Clyde has really had three bouts of cancer and has gone through the medical ringer. And we got into that! We talked about Clyde's journey to getting healthy and what he has learned along the way. A lot of it is diet advice, I think those reminders are good. Then we also talked about the opioid crisis and Big Pharma's pipeline to addiction because obviously with Clyde's medical issues he has been prescribed some drugs that really get close to that line people really struggle with so I thought that was important.

1:05:56 three, at least three guys who I graduated with who are dead now because they got hooked on some stuff that was given to them by a doctor and then after the prescription was over tried to fill that hole with other things. I mean that is pretty par for the course these days it's happening a lot But then we went really deep into the biological transhumanist stuff and what's possible now from a technical standpoint, and what the spiritual or esoteric implications could be. Because there are some! And I think Clyde is really good at nailing that kind of stuff. I liked his term the reverse cyber Pinocchio agenda telling real boys to now become robots. I just think that's creative you know? You know i like wordplay and all that

1:06:44 So I had a great time. Big thanks to Clyde, I know it is not an easy thing to fit into your schedule when it's so full already and also thanks to Clydes producer Ron Patton who I've known for a long time and Paranormal Magazine that also keeps it weird in the ways that I like Also like I said transhumanist stuff comes up quite a bit on The Plus Show and that is what Clydes latest book releases on Transhumans Substantiation The Truth About AI And The Singularity We didn't even really get to talk about that in the first hour, but I wanted to put it out here in the wrap-up that if you're interested in that topic, it is a really good read. And higher side news! The joint session this month will be on the 20th because of the holidays 7 p.m pacific time and the links will be up on Facebook Twitter and the PLUS website a few hours in advance on the day so you can be part of it live if you like

1:07:41 I'm sorry if you couldn't find the links last time. I'm telling you now, Facebook and Twitter... If all else fails! It's hard when our main method of communication is the podcast itself it's hard to on-the-fly tell you about something but that's what social media is for that's where the information will be also we have a few new T-shirt designs out three of them in fact and I am super happy with them people have asked me for less aggressive designs and somewhat less cartoony designs too because that's an element of what you'll find on thehighersideclothing.com, and some people have said yeah I'd like to support you but i really just want a shirt that says The Higher Side Chats and until recently I really didn't have a lot of those kind of shirts. I was more concerned about the material or the topics being expressed through the art things like JP Morgan signing off on the Titanic sinking or The Knights Templar worshipping Baphomet

1:08:39 I get it, abrasive stuff you might not want to wear on your radiant chest. So we did some simple subtle stuff recently a sort of new hipster THC logo and then also a really cool pirate ship catching a wave with tentacles and UFOs And it says that classic THC phrase navigating the vast conspiracy A phrase near and dear to my heart And another one that I came up with is like an old school company logo for the Deep State Toy Company, with the tagline You Only Know What We Show. And i think that's a lot of fun It's got portals and Tesla coils and weird devices on it All three are fun things that won't get you stopped in the grocery store because who wants to deal with that? It has happened to me too many times Hey can you explain what's on your shirt Dude...I cant' I don't want to

1:09:32 I'm just trying to buy some oranges and some apples, and get back to the bunker. Also the grinders are back in stock but i think i said that last week So if you do have any herb grinding needs...I gotcha! Alright well hey, I love ya guys Please sign up for The Higher Side Chats Plus And put The Higher Side Chats Plus on your Christmas list For someone else to get for ya if it's something you want. And I know the price has gone up, but I'm always down for creative trades if you have some sort of product or craft that you're working on and you'd like to trade for THC+, maybe we can find some kind of agreement? I'm not here to try to restrict access. I just wanna make a living doing what I love and guard against the possibility that it might not last forever. I hope everybody gets that

1:10:25 And I hope you enjoyed the show. I will see you next time! Your move, transhumanist transgressors observatory raiders and space armadas heading our way your fucking move. I won't take it no i refuse if it's all right i'll keep my refuge i've been scheming a bigger things and have to leave my old life behind gotta transfer to the inner earth i built a box build a home gotta need Going under and now you'll find me in the bunker Bunker, take it under Find me in the bunker Bunker, take it under Find me in the bunker, bunker, bunker Yeah they're laughing Ealing classics While they're screaming Baz's Who do you think they are? Fancy suit and a cigar

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