Mark Burr | Primary Water Wells, Hidden Abundance, & The Story Of Steve Riess

00:00 Well, I'm just a man whose intentions are good. From the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood And when we unpack the way the world got so twisted up with the widespread complete acquiescence to corrupt institutions and a few elite bloodline family trees one of the major justifications or rationalizations that fueled this parasitic parametal paradigm has been that resources are scarce, careful management is needed and extraction as well as distribution should only be handled by a select few professionals. When all else fails if you need more wage war and take it!

00:40 But the amount of authoritarian control as well as war-torn killing, under the guise of this scarcity spell cannot be adequately calculated and is backwards on almost every level. From the superior nutrient density and abundance of naturally grown crops for costly grocery store offerings and the construction of our fractional reserve debt based credit system to fuels that liberate rather than shackle people and even down to the monopoly on so called black gold itself being a substance that the earth makes in abundance as opposed to the scarcity propaganda perpetuated by the fossil fuel fiction. Name your category and it's worse than you think, with consequences more drastic than many can even conceive. And what if this mental conditioning that applies to most other things we find metered and managed in our lives also applies to water? Well turns out it does! With us to break the programming of water as a scarce resource and expose the hidden truth of Earth's deep-down generation of abundant primary water is Mark Burr

01:39 Mark has had quite a life. He served four years in the U.S Marine Corps, earned a degree in Middle East Studies, worked as a State Department diplomat at the US Embassy in Baghdad and once he discovered the story of German engineer Stephen Reiss and the secret of deep underground primary water He decided to dedicate himself to it as a geohydrologist and CEO and founder of both Blue Gold Exploration and Primary Water Technologies. It's a wild story, when you get into the details on how water is controlled and the water crisis hype is used its no small thing so here he is The blue gold go-getter primary water well digger and abundance advocate Mark welcome to THC

02:18 Thank you very much. Good to be with you, Greg Yes I am psyched for this one a little off the radar and unexpected And i usually like to let the audience know how some of these shows came to be and in this case A listener named Laura The Bruise who has been sending me good leads for years really She told me she was hired to re-edit This old book New Water For A Thirsty World So it could be republished and she told me about your work And this is part of what she said Mark burrows one of the only people in the world who is now drilling primary water wells all over the planet he knows much about the history and politics that people who tried to bring the knowledge a primary water to the public and those who have interfered. I encourage you reach out to mark to learn more on this subject to primary water how critical it is for the world to know about,

03:05 The conspiracy aspects are right up your alley, she knows me well. And everyone needs to know that our Earth provides infinite abundance including water if only the powers that want to be would stop putting limits on it and the people." Obviously that's a hell of a pitch and here we are! So this book was published in 1960 but as she says the Water Barons of the day worked to suppress this information and only a few original copies survived is that right? Yeah it's amazing when i first was pitch this whole primary water story back around twenty eleven by a guy in carlsbad california whose daughter was happen to go to school with steve reese is great grand niece and he heard about it. And he like most people say what we are why don't we know about this dug into it really hard and,

03:58 ultimately was looking to raise money to kind of prove it prove it again so he came to me at that time i was doing some a lot of things but raising some money for dabbling in the you know two to five million range of. Entrepreneurs small companies looking proceed rounds and you know, a guy was working with wall street who is basically my shadow chairman board today said mark you travel the world if u see anything in water Give me a shout you know those guys like you said that's that's the new black blue gold right now they're trying to chase it so weird market you can't sell by the barrel right out there on the nine x and so forth so i tell him listen.

04:37 I got this story that goes back California and i'm originally old northern california family i mean five star back into the eighteen fifties and my father's generation left for greener pastures in lower pastures as a. Hey can you rank true i understood the monopoly out there are the system they've been created the wicked politics of water and water law in the water casino. So he said, Mark do your due diligence? So for six months kind like you know I hit it read the book read everything went to The Science Of The Day which was 10-15 years ago now and said hey this is obvious actually okay we all kinda knew about the whole abiotic biotic

05:19 oil argument which was moot it was moved by twenty ten. Who are people was dead and buried if you mention that you were like a guy who like okay if people always gone fifty years ago how come where the saudi arabia boy like it right so guess what greg literally in twenty ten after the key events of two thousand five in the energy bill allowed us to then free up that energy source A paper was written by Peter Gleick of the Pacific Institute, Oakland California a demigod of the environmental movement and it was called Peak Water. And what Peter says is

06:01 right, is scripture. And we've been on that paradigm for 15 years really 100 and whatever years but scientifically in the modern period Peter said it and therefore it is and they're riding this as long as they can The same control agarcs who are losing lots of power left and right going well We got to hold that one like everybody needs water so I should and got to force it on them. And you can't believe what's happening in States like New Mexico, Colorado, California really much of the West as these horses are colliding right now. Yes I lived in San Diego for over a decade and the water was always being talked about the Colorado river being the source and do we have sign a new contract? And is this water going to go somewhere else

06:50 There's a lot of talk about how some of the cities out in the west are kinda artificially propped up by the dams and routing the water where there really shouldn't be water cuz again, we're kind of told that it scares and i guess we should kinda start there so we are told that the next resource to dry up is gonna be water. Wars waged neighbors will be killing each other and were running out there's too many people and we've let the bad guys poison the water we do have And there's some pretty hardcore conditioning out there to get people fully convinced water is scarce and we don't have enough. Peel that back, help!

07:27 Open the minds of those among us who think that the coming water crisis is the story of the next decade. And you know reveal how this is propaganda there's a lot of money to be made with just idea that water is scarce right, you got it always follow them money right certainly in america without a doubt so yeah i mean the story really goes back to the settling of the west Here i am in arizona where we are been estate for hundred and ten years or something and before that it was territory and works spending westward and were adding these territories and figuring out how to add them the states and populate them, enter population you need water and then food and so forth.

08:09 And so the first water war really was the Owens River Valley in California, which is the backside east side of the Sierras. Not a very populated place except for tribes back then in the day and so thirsty Los Angeles says hey we're coming up here to buy water rights at the beginning of the water casino I call it and those folks were not happy there was a literal shooting more people got shot and ultimately la and the big guns of california one and a course china town is that movies a bit of a backdrop of that time period ride in california, what's going on fast forward world war two.

08:50 Pendleton all the bases the pacific theater and of course la goes through a massive growth phase. During and then after world war two when where are they gonna get the water so of course the colorado river compact system that you refer to was developed in nineteen thirties, add becomes that monopoly And what do monopolies do? They crowd out competition and they inhibit innovation by textbook economic definition. The federal government, Bureau of Reclamation or Department of Interior owns the dams then you move the water which are your canals which are federal and state and then you get that to your municipal water company which by the way is also a monopoly. You don't wake up one morning say my waters

09:39 bad, I'm going to go to that Verizon or AT&T of water. Now you got one water company and they love to tell you no there's no more water we're jacking up your rates 5 10 12 percent a couple years ago out in Phoenix and you need to change the front yard rocks and you need to drink toilet tap another three four five times you dumb dumbs and that's their solutions so that system is existed. They've had a few more rivers like the Feather River Project, which is the California Canal and that's the backdrop of that book about Steve Reese. Yes yes so when it comes to the story of Steve Reese its interesting It kind of mirrors the story of Gerald Pollack a little bit I've heard you talk about him but the parallel is that Gerald Pollack wondered why water doesn't just pour out our bodies when we have surgery and get cut into

10:31 If we're mostly water you think it just spill out like empty no water bottle on the table and he recognize that the quality of water in our body is different came up with the gel state water. And steve reese was a german mining engineer and his work he would see water pour straight out of the rocks deep deep down in mines any new, it was too deep to be rainwater is like something else has to be going on here and that was his initial hunch right 100% I mean it was neat that Laura worked with Deborah Thompson of the Primary Water Institute to republish that book. It was never copyrighted, they wanted it to be available everyone and by the way the main funder of that time period was none other than Emmett Culligan. You ever heard a Culligan water softeners?

11:22 Yeah, I think I get collagen water delivered to me now. Oh, I lived in Davie Florida four years 100% brother that was like you put the bathtub for the kids and it was already yellow and you're like they haven't even gone in it so Emmett amazing Midwest industrialists scored a semi retires to Riverside County here's about the successes of this guy Steve Reese in his backyard and all of this politics is going on there in the middle of another drought which is norm And then you come out for a little while and then you're in the norm out here in the Southwest desert. And he's going, why is no one listening to this guy? You lived in San Diego, you know Sparklets water sparklers were out here there an Arizona now I think they got bought by Danone or somebody. He saves them think about it

12:09 He drills their well, a backup well and a third. Well they haven't even used that third while they just pump it every so often right to let it go and for 70 years they've survived on Steve Reese as well as talk about a cash cow huh? Right there in what's called Lakeside San Diego County right? Lakeside is the spot yeah Riverside is another spot right that's where the wells are So he comes out there amazing story And laura needs to help me right sort of my whole update on this whole story you know six these five years later steve reese was actually his father was an admiral in the kaiser's navy world war one he manages to get on a ship at sixteen cuz is that what's missing and send it the youngest prisoner of war,

12:55 Captured by the british so you learn english there gets released after the war of course is from a top no family goes to school and mining engineering ends up in california with none other than president. hoover's family is suns who were who was the first graduating class of stanford and geology. He married his wife lou what is the first woman to graduate from stanford geology, and they were world renowned engineers i mean she's the only first lady in the white house to speak an asian language she spoke chinese and russian another language She was the brains of the operation as he would say so they were wealthy world renowned he comes to work with the hoovers out in the west southwest. Any seeing minds flooded out by water you're reaching nevada comstock no you know,

13:45 Down here tombstone like german mine goes wait. No rain and you can't stop the amount of water coming from a well what gives me the geo chemist he starts to test this water says no way, water is made in the earth does research and there's actually hundreds of years in europe Thinking and concepts and writing on what they called halitus in latin which was the exhaling of the earth right now gassing which we know of course knows exist thanks to dr thomas gold fifty sixty years ago trying to show people how this exists.

14:23 The number one outgassing is water vapor, which we now know from the GOES-7 satellites and we can see it emitting. So he realizes it's made in the earth and he calls it primary water after he digs nothing to drill Because he thinks they're gonna think he's totally nuts south of las vegas 45 minutes into el dorado canyon where you can go today and do little mind tours on the old mines. Add some of the old claims are getting revived at 4000 whatever, dollars an ounce right you go over there he digs this and the guys are scrambling out of a hole at like two hundred feet less than three or feet of the ground it comes out free flowing is beautiful water i've been to the well we called our genesis well. Any goes you know what i can find this and for fifty years the rest of his life he dedicated locating prodigious wells in california southwest and around the world

15:20 Yes so i've heard you call this the textbook of primary water and it is quite sciencey at parts that talks about how pressure on oxygen and hydrogen. Push them together and it makes water and even magma is involved magma byproduct of magma flow seems to be water so. The premise here is waters generated inside the earth we've said that but the conventional story of water is that we know our water planet, what i think they say it sounds silly to even say but i believe the official stories all the water on the planet came from space

15:57 fell down onto the planet and that's the water we have? It's kind of crazy. Meteorology, like it's insane! Like they still call these people on TV meteorologists right I mean like what?! Oh i never thought about that We had that much bombardment of meteorites we wouldn't be here as a planet deuterium water would all be so much heavier water? No. So, actually again concepts understood amongst the Greeks and Romans understood 500 years ago by George Agricola in Europe in De Re Metallica the book on mining that changed and ultimately led to the Industrial Revolution in Europe who translated that Lou Hoover

16:37 Yeah, Lou and Herbert Hoover translated that amazingly in 1920 or whatever to English. Okay? And so that was a critical time now what do you see in that book which is really funny Bavarian Towsers, with their forked sticks walking around. The water witches! Water witches! Now they didn't have all this digital tech right? So they used what God had given old Moses and the Jews or however you want to look at it It's an ancient art of science everywhere in the world I've been everybody has got there little way of doing it okay Queen Elizabeth I says, man this is important what's happening out there. Bring those guys! They bring those guys out and teach the ones there in England and so forth also witching and then the concepts of how to locate these minerals. Then begins the addition of things like pendulums, Loron Pendulum. The MIT of Hungary is named after Utrus Lorand and the earliest wells in Baku and Dahran were located using that pendulum it's not digital

17:38 It's based on gravitational pulls and so forth. So these concepts are quite well developed, and then of course America comes along you know we discovered the whole West we need resources and typical of the day as you know The Robert Barons in the oligarchs quickly come in whether it's railways or oil or whatever start saying get out of the way y'all aren't smart enough and big enough and deep enough pockets to deal with this just let us handle it And we are suffering to this day from that, regardless of what Teddy Roosevelt did and the trust busters. We know they survived that with their little foundations right? And they've been playing us to this day it is tied the end of the paradigm is at hand and they can't stop science now and you follow that They can't It's out of the garages into commercial space in many areas. It's just a legal framework. It is easier to drill oil well in Arizona if it had oil than water

18:36 Yes and so to paint a picture for people of why this is different we know their conventional wells i'm gonna well here i think it's better than city water but this well has got problems too like they're only supposed to last thirty to fifty years so i'm told. And there's a lot of agricultural runoff especially in florida this land was not really taking care of there's a lot of chemical fertilizers and all that it all seeps down into the very porous sandy soil and ends up in the. Florida aquifer so they say you know i've heard you talk about offers a little bit differently but just to paint the picture of a conventional well usually their like a hundred two two hundred feet deep, and they're not

19:21 Getting past the bedrock and what reese did is he went past the bedrock and he's like oh once you crack. Down here pass the bedrock it opens up a guy there are natural spring of not just water equal to the water of a conventional well but we're talking primary water were talking almost structured gel state water in its purest form just generated from the deepest parts of the earth and we're talking about wells that Don't require as much pumping i understand because the pressure is already naturally there so once you pop it, it wants to come out and its not only better quality it's seventy degrees all the time it's not.

20:04 Affected by various climates it reminds me of like in florida there are hundreds of springs for to get a bad rap but if people just look up the most beautiful springs and florida it's like mind blowing. That is always seventy degrees super clear water comes out of the earth at like a hundred thousand gallons a day you're how where does it go This is basically what we're talking about, you're making springs from getting down to a layer that they basically have off limits to us. All well companies go to a certain depth and it's all very regulated because they don't want you cracking beyond this barrier the solid rock which is hard to do anyway without serious intention to do so and cracking down into this basically infinite water Would you correct anything I said or amend anything? No, just on your homework

20:54 So, we're taught from kindergarten the hydrological cycle and so the rain is evaporation condensation. And that's all water we're going to have there might be a little lost there too. You better save everything because that's it folks right? You go back to William Ruby who wrote a paper in the 19 I think it was 1950 on The origin of our planet waters including the oceans is from the interior That guy got the National Science Prize under Eisenhower Like, they agreed back then right? People like if they knew it then what happened. Well a lot of things right number one space race takes a lot of the best minds into space and the earth sciences becomes very soft

21:34 And a lot of the crazies get in there too and they start attacking it right now i'm out of things bad humans are bad right. And so you have that divergence and that comes out in the textbook their quote unquote new water for thirsty world because saltman was a double phd just trying to understand this issue, goes out and talks to a lot of nobel prize laureates many from europe who were there working in usc and so call all the labs right like You Americans, this is obvious. Yes it's created in the earth and its hydrogen and oxygen combining under the electromechanical forces of our earth at great pressures and depth and it rises sometimes a lot of it as steam we see geysers come up crying out loud right but what happens to steam as it rises and cools? Condensation that's recharged from below right so they're explaining all this

22:24 I discover in 2011-12 there this textbook or a book of published papers called Earth's Deep Water cycle. The title alone had me fall out my chair about a copy is why Dr Steven Jacobson, brilliant minds these are peer reviewed people around the world Japanese Chinese Russians Americans Canadians everything and they're saying okay this is made 400 miles deep in the earth approximately in the outer mantle it's a Goldilocks zone the hydra zone has certain catalyst We can now, by then proven in laboratories our labs have gotten so extraordinarily

23:05 advance that you can bring those kind of pressures and temperatures to bear and add the catalysts, and say oh there it happened. Kind of like watching nuclear reaction. Oh water was made! How come waters in diamonds and other things inclusions as we call them that we know must have come from deep in the earth because of the pressure to make it right? There's water in all rock all rock like obsidian black obsidian has one to three percent water That means all rocks are made from a solution, not a melt. that changes everything. It ain't magma down there, or if you wanna say magma's called plasma? Great! Okay plasmas H-H-O hydrogen oxygen right into its and they call it the fourth phase of matter because it acts completely differently If you've ever played with Browns gas or a hydrogen arc You put your finger next to that thing Its melting a penny and then it melts tungsten What's the melting point of tungsten ridiculous Then you go like this And your hand still got your fingers

24:07 That technology around for decades right and they didn't know when i can trust us man we're gonna make hydrogen bombs reduce crazy stuff in our garage so you that stuffs off limits in the men in black show up, will you start using your cars and other things right. So that's what down there okay it's a plasma is a water planet but don't just think water liquid waters and as you know so many different forms gas liquid crystals the types of liquids that it's in h3o to all of that its Hydrology, the study of water. Stop studying water 50 years before Pollack all right? It became hydraulics moving long distance plumbing and an appendage to civil engineering. A guy Akerman Bill Akerman I think his name was William Akerman wrote a seminal paper denouncing his own profession saying we have lost it. We have nothing new to say. We're not solving the problems that was like 1960 he threw up his hands

25:07 Yes and for people who don't quite remember george wise man i've interviewed him twice but he did talk about this the idea of a cold blowtorch basically like just like you'd see like a welding torch. But as you say you can put your hand through it and it doesn't burn hot its burning water, They kind of was an attachment i believe to his aqua care machine he had a blowtorch attachment if you want to go down that road but yeah the browns gas rabbit hole it is crazy so, i have homemade water dual water fuel cell that i used activate hydrogen made by douglas harky.

25:44 May rest in peace who is up and not flags that are zona and a new wise men all that group okay he figured out yes patents in his name now and the guys who invested at him. Are really close to doing some incredible things on both his magnet generators and his water technologies douglas harky hrky why you could see his patterns that have been put out there and those guys are still protecting the best I called him the mormon Tesla and i'm telling you this kid did all the twenty five years put everything aside so this is what science is bonk them im gonna figure it out, and man did he and so i would go to his son room which was a laboratory in see things. That just blew my mind if i thought it was fake you say well look at this guy over here no youtube created that whole group of people just saying hell with the intermediaries let's share were all doing guys in our garages

26:37 and go at it, right? And it was a wonderful democracy of science that came through those channels. And by the last five years, 10 years they can't stop it. We're on and I have five kids, I'm very optimistic for all them in their future. It's ugly the breakthrough periods right there are ugly because those guys are holding on and just doing everything possible to retain their power but they can't stop this freight train that is coming extraordinary applications and another five hundred period relieving that one and we're coming out of it is just a uncomfortable time as these transitions usually are.

27:17 I love it, i appreciate the passion. So to go back to Reese a little bit so he became obsessed with this idea once he saw in the mines and realized how his observation did not match the conventional story of water and then he started drilling. He developed a great track record for successfully drilling these primary water wells. He made 72 attempts and it worked 70 of the 72 times All located in hard rock and typically in distressed areas where It was considered unproductive or hopeless by orthodox water experts they said there is no water here close the town down get these people out of here they're all gonna die he would come into these areas and be like nah i got it and you a drill down and boom he's got primary water not only. Found water but better water than they had before in limitless abundance it hard to say limitless i'm sure their

28:15 are limits to some degree but i mean we never reach those limits we would never reach them and it's like a thousand acts what we are told is there. I refer something by says can i get you punch okay we are pinpricks compared to oil and gas in geothermal everything gets like allowing this planet take release and green itself, and each well has its safe yield depending on again the natural pressure, the way it was drilled, the pumping. Right? And you have to find that natural yield and if you do that and maintain that well over time it can be here for a longer multi-generation which is Steve Reese's inventory of wells which we have all over California in the West and the world like he went when it was brought to Israel 58 59 It's in The Jerusalem Post they laughed at him in 58 this crazy bow hunt

29:08 American thinks there's water and rock. In 59, he brings his driller over Jim Scott in California who did most of his work and they located prodigious water for the development of Eilat which is their port on the Gulf of Aqaba down there. They're only you know, Southern Port and it developed from then. And that's all documented right? So he would go as you say like I do today in my business which is primary water well locating right using technologies to say if it's easy to find water they're not calling me right so where we walk in its already tough usually a wells already been drilled dry or poor quality were not enough or the client says

29:55 That neighbor dry, that neighbor's poor quality. That guy has got like spring water! When I talk to the driller he is like yeah kind of roll a dice you know what I mean? Like I want that water right which is basically spring water as you said we know there are springs that have existed for thousands of years high quality they're our healing properties etc right well where did that water come from then let us go find it. Painted to the surface Exactly. So just to let people know, I guess how abundant this is, is it pretty fair to say that on any acre of land you could find at least one spot where this could be tapped into? Are there places in the planet where you wouldn't be so optimistic and can do it anywhere?

30:43 You can obviously like we can deal with like a house on less than an acre it's a heck of a challenge and you know you got its built up in i'm god expense you know equipment that sensitive but up here northern arizona okay another phoenix. Just a few years ago, right? The river was announced that it might not give hydroelectric power there about 20, right 22. Oh big cutbacks on the system and remember our systems called the Central Arizona Project, the CAP and that came in in the 60s 70s as we took our own allocation finally off take from what's the dam there on the Colorado River anyway and came across to Phoenix and Tucson, right? And so I were getting cut backs

31:27 The deal colorado river compact has been renegotiated twelve percent hike change your front yard rocks and by the way those who did not get their permit by april and i don't this guy in october building is you know one two million dollar retirement home across the street they've all got power that got truck lines of water he went to get his hook up they said, oh no you need to get here by april you needed really wrong well. You gotta be kidding me right now so i get called in that i got a front yard and side yard work at you know we gotta modern north phoenix is rock country right in my technologies excel in seeing down into this hard rock to find those fishers faults fractures hopefully deep upwelling.

32:08 primary water to access right and he gets it so we can come in like that we were just on eight thousand acres finished up yesterday in Montana. That's a bigger challenge but it was tough area east of the slopes or the Rockies and you gotta be real tactical reels teach exactly how you get on top of the water for that rancher who is gonna spend a number of cows to do that well that needs to produce you know For him, five gallon a minute all day long is a heck of a deal. And we usually are 30 to 50 if it's a good well certainly 15 which they'll never even use because they're going to trough it and just keep it going right? And then do stock wells like that so it depends and sometimes depth is you know

32:53 in a certain area super deep we're getting ready to survey san pedro mesa and san luis colorado and that may says angle there's really no water in the five six seven actually nine hundred feet somebody drill what you go below it. Five hundred feet they get thousands of gallons minute never got the math right i guess, the gravity data shows is one of them magnetic data show there's water so again this combinations of factors in this three complicated World earth geology to figure out where it is and that's the excitement what we do its true exploration each and every projects different. And unique in it is there a well already or not one of the closer wells tell us, what are the geology maps and bore logs tell us and then you go at it you collect the data steve reese approach did

33:43 You know very much the same way i wish i had is three d brand this earth cuz he been in mining so they really understood like deep earth and fall to fractures and contact zones, any was a train geochemist brilliant guy. Love it let's talk about the suppression that he faced and we can then get into like suppression today or resistance we could even say but so. Steve re save the sparkles water company in california like you mentioned nineteen fifty three by telling them you just got a drill deeper, end those wells are still producing today it's like part of the company i guess

34:19 And then, Reese ended up testifying before the US Senate and he offered to locate primary water wells along the entire future route of the California Aqueduct. Tell us about these parts of this story where did he butt up against resistance from government and basically the water cartel? So that cartels now been formed pre world war two the water rights casino goes back to the earliest grandfathered rights people come in right i work a lot with of course mormon farmers and ranchers who settled a lot of the west from you know alberta to mexico but You know out there in southwest utah northern arizona call the arizona strip they ranch that permit ease coming down for saint george and i'll tell my tone before cover when i was finally getting hard into this, add my text suite by twenty seventeen and i was located some prodigious well as you guys do realize. Yeah cuz their against gambling and ice you don't realize the biggest casino on the west is not in las vegas right

35:18 They're like, where's this bird going? I said it's the water rights casino and it's more unethical and immoral. And they'll kick the ground and go he's right you got the water lawyer, you've got the lobbyist, your gonna get your water. The chip factories come in here where there supposedly no water somehow they get their approvals don't they? The government does this that you know the Bluffdale facility in Utah people were screaming right They went deep they got their water for that all those servers okay but now the rest of us you lemmings you just set up and you pay twelve percent more a year put rocks in front yard. You don't know better and people go along with that until finally be there something wrong with this and theirs i can tell you right now we are at again

36:04 change right now, a potential massive change. Some have already occurred in Arizona and the Colorado River Compact so he runs up against these people in the 50s where there's a drought saying I've been here 20 years locating wells all over the place He located the wells to develop Simi Valley, north up in the hills above LA and it was sulfur water up there. Nobody went up there that's all sulfur water. Prodigious wells and he sells less than an acre of land to Clint Murchison Sr., oilman Dallas Cowboys right? And it was the most expensive sale

36:47 land in California up to 1953 and there's an article, they talk about research. And they're gonna fund this worldwide and there's going to be reforestation It's the most exciting thing you like that you you're like what happened? Oh, well let's go to the 1950s and that segregated party called Democrat and Pat Brown. And his desire to get another big old project 1930 style unless damn up the Oroville Dam in the Feather River and bring that canal over the fault twice. An we're going to bribe those conservative Republican Central Valley farmers by giving them what? Subsidized water. Sorry farmers I pick on you too and you know it

37:30 I know some of you are going to watch this. There's not a subsidy that is too small enough for you to say, I won't take it." It's a, so you bought into that system and now you won't let go. And I've been out there and damn near we threw down on some of your people. So I'll tell my, I'll speak it. You don't like Trump? You're not gonna like me now they'll tell me Mark, your right cause you know what there is no such thing as dry well in this valley in San Joaquin. They just never had to drill as much for did they? They had this nice water coming down okay. So he's out there saying I will drill seven or 8000 backup wells back up, turn them on when you need them. Turn them off when you don't. When the years are good and you'll need those one day." Oh they need him now! Okay? And one of the great case studies was Lake Elsinore right there in Riverside County Vern Cameron who was actually a guy fascinated with witching from when the time he his grandmother witches well in Escondido California

38:27 When out and they drill those wells that are still there to this day refurbish the two thousand four give a billion gallons per year stabilize the lake. That's a fraction of their capability all three in a row literally 123 on a little island called like i'm well is that her cross fault to the san andreas well like else in our fall right and every so that light, There's proof all over the place, but that stepping in the way of bankers and all the subsidies and the big thing Democrats have today. And they were already selling these ideas into Texas. I've been doing a lot of work Texas last few years. I realized I thought it was such a free state it is oil. It's easier to drill an oil well than a water well. I guarantee you in Texas you can't. I have stories all day long so that got to them and that water casino on the water rights too. So like you said those guys are some areas will drill like 200 feet hit this hard rock

39:16 And it's like they've been taught, like, ah, it's all salty. Blow that. I'm not what are the world? So maybe the right, I mean who am I and then we drilled down four or five six seven hundred feet in hill country. Good high volumes i got ranch developers call me cuz they get the big ranch you don't wanna work in all the kids are wanting more there's no water they split up sell it off you know as. As mcranches to california is coming out there and, there's water so yeah though the whole water hydrology is not outside of water anymore right and hydro geology is a pet geology geologists have rocks in their heads. So that's why we use the term geo-hydrology, which goes back to that 1950s period when people said we got to get back to studying the Earth's

39:59 waters geophers geochemistry geology physics which is the instrumentation we're using race ran up against that he had emmett colgan a multimillionaire yet. Show me of fluid master on his side he had wealthy backers he already made his million dollars on the sale atlanta They weren't gonna break through that group. They threw him into court, sued him over prove it prove it prove it you can go online and see those lawsuits he won them and he didn't care so give me a dollar I'm done with the people but by then they'd already got their water bond and there they damn that river which almost collapsed in about when was at six seven years ago when they had a big runoff and man orville almost collapse what did that happened

40:44 Oh man. So that was that difficult period and we didn't, you know, Reese didn't went out but he continued until 1985 locating these prodigious wells Right and i have some notes of the book also talks about just all the different categories of resistance there's obviously an academic paradigm in they will not admit they were wrong about water they've already got the established model and day don't want to stray from that then of course theirs. financial stakes, especially back then. Financial stakes held by contractors who make money selling concrete for massive dams and irrigation works and the bankers who are cozy with them and as you mentioned municipal water bonds bureaucrats to feel a natural urge to expand their departments and extend their authority through massive water projects And then there's the Water Resources Division of the U.S Geological Survey

41:41 This is something interesting so i was reading about this story from other sources in october nineteen fifty four this geological survey division distributed a five page document explicitly arguing against the availability of primary water for ordinary uses the author notes that This document was never officially listed or indexed in the Geological Survey's publications, suggesting it was essentially a throwaway track designed for mass consumption. It was apparently rushed out to combine the widespread public attention that Stephen Reese was receiving after National Magazine featured his successful wells. The government authors did not attempt to contact him look at his work or consult

42:25 with their own geological specialists before publishing this piece. So, this demonstrates that there was intentional suppression of his work There's another one an exhaustive and expansive investigation of Ventura County's water resources published in 1953 says the state's hydraulic engineers concluded that the county's only hope was to import water from outside sources. However, this comprehensive report completely failed to mention Stephen Reese is highly publicized primary water wells located right in the counties Simi Valley which were producing 5.4 million gallons of water a day so yes there is documented situations where they purposely didn't want people to know about this

43:09 So when it comes to Reese's Wells, obviously we're not going to talk about 70 individual wells. Simi Valley is one of the big ones you mentioned the Negev Desert in Israel this is where he was asked to come out to Israel and they were like well there's no water here its a desert He dug a well that supplies a city of 100 thousand people with water much purer than existing local supplies Are any of his wells still operational? You did mention one, but I do believe so. I want to talk about the current state of his wells. I believe some of them are chained up and closed even though they would still function if you just lifted the cap off and then there might be some places in the United States where you can go and see a Reese well or drink from it is that true? Absolutely yeah i mean we've got...you know that one guy originally came to me and said okay I want a billion dollars to prove this now like

44:04 Only a million well you know i like that you think big okay so he ends up doing a really good documentary i have to send it to you don't have about seventeen minutes, any goes of that property of the gallagher's who are the daughter and then nice and so forth family there in bonsai east of calls bad out there is still if u look at a map is the largest contiguous flower farms in america. Oh, the Carlsbad flower fields. We go up there... Look at that exhibition! The price of California right? You see developments here and golf courses you got these flowers like can you make that much flowers because they're on their own wells drilled by Steve Reese 1973 beautiful property he makes this wonderful documentary He never really published it and sorry I'm not that good raising a billion dollars And yeah i just told him hey let's go do this okay let's do it

44:57 No, and he was like wanting me to prove in the Middle East because I spent a lot of time out there. And finally said, I'm going to do it. I said, I'll throw you my LLC. You don't even want to be on your LLC? He says okay! So I raise a little money and go to try to prove it again right and I'm looking at this inventory he wanted to go inventory all of that like we know where a lot of these wells are just by references let's check them and try to get water samples from them and make this huge case right and I agree with that approach if you can get it done but we know there are many of them pouring for thousands gallons per minute or hundreds of gallons Your high quality decades and decades later by him steve cameron. Call power who was steve reese's number one disciple a hungarian teenage immigrant after the revolution in budapest there ended up california met steve, and followed him he just passed away twenty twenty three in his eighties had opportunity to work with him but feel

45:55 burn cameron's disciple bill cox prodigious water locators well it gets picked up in australia by lance andersberg and then robert gore lay who is a partner in my entity their sustainable water. And he's pushing into his eighties now as well there the second generation i call Between those five names, six names I gave you. There's...I don't know if there are 10 thousand wells but there is thousands of wells these guys have located that we can go to and show them okay? So they're all over the place now let's go back to something that i think your about touch on so Steve Reese made his first anime

46:31 enemies in the state of california and the water resources folks because they were up in the nineteen thirties doing all these days we got damn all this stuff up and they wanted to dam that valley there above see me about i think it's called them sand. Whatever he had already drilled as well And he was giving water free down the hill gravity flow to those farmers. And when they came in and dam it up, he was against that so we don't need that stuff. We got the water." He said you guys if you vote for that, you're not getting my water And they said, OK we like Steve. We're with Steve he's giving us his water that was first time he made his enemy in the water oligarchy and the water bureaucracy and they didn't forget it now USGS sadly it used to be independent so they have our science leave him alone let him think now I get sucked under the department interior what do you think you do with the boss tells you at that point right so there is something else needs to happen

47:28 You know and i ever once while try to reach some of these trump people say hey you need to get the geological out of departmentary stand alone again doing its own science. And standing on his own two feet but what will do that or no but your right that was one of the key problems there and so that gets sucked in and a little letter like that has no basis no footnoting nothing challenges reason is going bring it, so they held senate hearings in los angeles senate united states senate It's rare that they hold them outside of the Senate. And it was a big water resources fight, 58-59 they came to LA none other than am I going to miss his name? A tremendous renowned geologist in California credited for locating the Venezuelan oil fields there is book written about that whole expedition in 1910

48:20 1020 is whenever that was he writes a letter and many others did on behalf of reason this paradigm going it's patently obvious. This is occurring people and they all got pushed aside the science was there explain in great detail not book we've taken it, it much deeper with our advanced laboratories to this day and first deep water cycle. And since then, it's a given right? It's just flat out known and all we have to break through now is that once again this federal government that's gotten too big into controlling in the people are not we the people

48:56 And you got to fight and scream, and then they throw you if they can in jail or use lawfare to beat you down. They tried that on Reese when at 53 he could sustain himself because of that sale to Murchison now what happened with Murchison his son who by the way has a little bit of relationship to what happened to JFK night before and the meeting in Dallas. Whoops anyway so he gets co-opted real quick by those bankers. He was a real estate guy Okay, so daddy's really thinking big. Daddy! Come on now this we got to play big hardball and real estate and all that okay? You want to know what the Democrat Party was like 1950s go research LBJ

49:36 All right. Oh man, they whip you for 50 bucks and kill you anybody gets you killed for 200 bucks back then and it was serious that happened okay so they were a mean party they were segregations party and they did what they wanted and they were all loving the big money government on your own around in the big projects so he ends up working that deal with Pat Brown Governor Pat Brown, whose son is Jerry Moonbeam Brown. Governor how many different times out there in California and that's who lords over the state to this day okay? So guess what I get a call from a billionaire in San Francisco now Paul Power had found water for them on his land like everybody said no water out here in east of San Francisco somewhere and they hear his story and are like wow this is great how can we support you he knows who they are

50:27 Okay, so he's like nah I'm allergic to that. He says help this charity down here and they helped this charity over in Kenya and i've been there to his wells one of them is free flowing 15 years later in the middle of a drought that valley was lush and everything else on the way to it was dying on the vine and the corn was brown incredible guy, but the second generation returned to witching. Reese never witched he had that brain and he did use technology by the way one of which I relocated in Germany anyway so those people come say what do you want to do? So after i meet them they said oh we want to get this in front of Gavin they don't call him Governor Newsom right these are one of five families that raise all the money that bring all the 5 10 30 thousand dollar plate dinners decide who's going to be the next senator governor of California

51:12 California, period. That's how it works everybody out there don't even try one families ain't Getty we all know them there is a pretty sorted lot by the third or fourth generation okay but they have the money and they play the game Gavin Newsom's dad was the money man for J-Paul Getty right? We all know this right parked him on the Supreme Court of California right so anyway I go okay so i get my half hour fame in front of the governor's office the GO of california I make a beautiful presentation Restyle, think big. Why am I here with these people? The head cabinet secretary ahead of the California EPA right all of that

51:49 And I say, for $300 million dollars i can drill a hundred wells deep well seal off the top like to do all gas and don't fight over the shallow stuff go down get this wells bring it to thirsty la only using their land that they bought there. The biggest land owner in the back side of the Sierras Los Angeles County is and I say we'll pour right into their existing canal and I could do it 24 months and about two million dollars aswell let's go do this And I showed them examples in their backyard and they were shocked. Like Elsinore on and on, they gave me half hours so i could go all day and give you examples. And the cabinet secretary who was a clear political finance for Gavin back at San Francisco then deputy OMB Washington under Biden when they were throwing the gold bricks over there as they were leaving ah get the picture how this works she's oh this is great appreciate how specific you are and I'm amazed that the examples you have these walls.

52:42 Nothing. I know, i write him she's oh mark we haven't forgotten about you just waiting for the what was her words basically they got a big decay cali style right who am i yes right some kind of permit some kind of thing there are the right people that was it wait for the right people to put you in what do you mean yeah little people it special projects the special projects at dwr was on phone she wouldn't even reply I'm like, Hey, I think this is for me and you to take forward because I mean, you're a special project. You're right? We can do this like let's go. Like we need water coming out of them hydrants if you really want water coming out of them hydrants maybe that's really the issue here. Right Greg? So unreal that there now I discovered you love this right

53:30 In 1980, an English British investment banker shows up in LA discovers these wells out in Cadiz. C-A-D-I-Z Inc., Cadiz California. It's a name on the map there was nothing there but these Reese Wells or Cameron Primary Water he's like holy God do the math on that all we got to do along is old railway right away it's like not even used anymore but it's right away its people get use it right and will dump that water into canal 60 years they prevented them Okay so i go and check wait that was on trump's list of top fifty infrastructure projects in twenty sixteen no tax dollar needed just approvals they never got it through. I looked up oh they're ahead of me, they changed the whole board to politicos democrat politicos including the chief of staff of mayor bass in los angeles

54:22 Yeah, that's the cake. They're like, hey Marco we got little things ahead of you and you're a pretty small guy out here and I know you've got these billionaires speaking on your behalf but we're cooking this one. It hasn't moved. And I think because Trump knows the game big time what's happening down there he has his own hotel out there and Rick Grinnell is one of his key guys as well as a couple other people like Tom Barrett and Masa Bulos okay? If you don't know those two names You don't know what's going on in Middle East and Africa. It's so insane, but their major in Southern California he knows is going out to I think now he's going, I'm not gonna give you the approval because I see how corrupt people are that's how Cali works today fast forward from those nasty fifties and the lawsuits and the law fair it still going on

55:11 Very crazy so i'm also always interested in what ancient people knew and how far back does something go. There is a couple of examples of deep bedrock primary wells in the ancient world i mean jacob's well as mentioned a famous ancient well that was excavated through solid rock to adapt them just a hundred, five feet and is reportedly still in use. And then Aldous Huxley wrote the forward to this book, if people don't know that and he mentions the ancient oasis of Nefta in the Sahara and Jericho in the Jordan Valley where unfailing abundant springs gush directly out of solid rock despite the severe lack of rainfall Is there indications? I mean that... He's talking about

55:58 a spring apparently, it doesn't necessarily mean it was engineered by man but is there any indication that ancient people knew this and where are some of the oldest wells that you know about? Right. So you have those biblical walls, if you will that you can visit and they call them springs but there's clear evidence they were chiseled. Okay. Was it spring first? And then you chiseled it whatever or was it Moses going right here with his dowsing rod? Well the fact of the matter is you have what are called called Karez systems, Kanat systems, Aflaj systems in Arabic Turkish Farsi right and Kanat is the origin of our word canal. So they were drilled into if you follow most of them they were drilled into hard rock literally and then they moved them underground which was brilliant it got no evaporation right? It was amazing

56:49 and they have these holes every once in a while for air. And the guys could go down there and do any maintenance, I mean extraordinary! There was one discovered only so many years ago in Jordan is believed to be the longest underground tunnel because now they have a lot of remote sensing they can look right? And LIDAR stuff that thing is like 100 miles or more underground than they just now discovered it. So those systems were across the Middle East brought to Europe in their ASEKIA type systems which we now have Thanks to the Spanish in New Mexico and here and there. And that was how you located these waters and moved it absolutely they understood these concepts. I love that, i love that so what projects do you have going on? Do you have like overreaching overarching goals with these companies that your CEO of that you might want to talk about like what is your vision and whats your five year plan knowing whats you know

57:45 So in australia is a great case so huge country small population very large cattle stations ranches farms to make our king ranch texas looks more right, so i've been there with into our seventh year now i was there like setting up an early twenty twenty. We know we're now over a million dollars year revenue and there are like the states it's mostly these big farm ranchers right who really live in diana as you all know by the banks of the money they get in what i call my swatter yeah to grow on that acres ride it comes down to water. And up till then, they're relying on these guys and even Rob Gourlay of our second generation primary water. Amazing mapping and technology water technology guy but he doused in the field God bless the dousers I get it i know its amazing success but we need technology so I brought that in and now we are cruising So the next step from doing all this retail service business is to do what? Like Reece did buy land cheap

58:40 And flip it develop it right and sell hi put in a portfolio and grow and so the first investment is in queensland ninety thousand acres. We're gonna regenerative farming on it convert that its all messed up land needs like right total fixing up and health and there's another forty two thousand next week that we can acquire and now were kinda moving into that real where my house before my talking because those are our people talk about we gotta get out of this synthetic system man i read joel salads in twenty years ago everything i wanna do is illegal i was like the best book in the world cuz im living in the shenandoah valley virginia going,

59:18 Something doesn't make sense. I can't get milk delivered to my door and Eugene, Oregon in the 70s we did and like what happened between now and then? Oh yeah that's us those are the people who call me on one night I got this land it's a mess i want to rejuvenate it I've been doing rain capture in the desert like yeah you probably need a well you know how good is that quality okay ice have been coming here for 35 years Arizona 20 yeah 30 vice of my parents retired here and I've lived here for awhile now You don't think there's chemtrailing going on? Oh my God. It's like funny with people and then once you point it out, they can't unsee it and then they finally get mad. Like we never had high fog in Arizona are you kidding me between February March April May what the heck is that stuff doing up there What all those crisscross lines doing? Oh well thats aircraft! Last week the air temperature was different at 30 000 feet what are you nuts Monday Tuesday there was clear sky Wednesday Thursday Friday its all checkered

1:00:18 And then suddenly there's a crazy storm in New Mexico or Texas. You think that going on? Oh no, just pure coincidence man! Sorry I've been inside out of the beast, i'm in war zones, been military you see stuff and You know i went to iraq a conservative republican i laugh and i left the rabbit libertarian. I get it i get it is us so can people who are listening could they hire your company to do well you mentioned that those california thing two million oh well, i have a while here on the property obviously not one of the good ones but can it be does that cut into the price to have it converted to primary well just by digging deeper in one that's already halfway established

1:01:02 So what will do is we come in get contacts everyday take a look at where they are how much land you got the other well now well with the situation to a free map and well study of the area so were talking apples apples. Okay it's okay what your goal new homestead well you know all you wanna do some glamping oh you got a little development going on, okay you're a ranch with distributed stock wells or you're a farm with one big production need. Right? So then we come in and we survey so I have independent operators and like say Kevin was just on that 8000 acreage north of great falls i've got tyler on finishing up avalanche ranch hot spring study in colorado moving down to san pedro mesa for a homesteader, top ryan was down here doing four projects week before last and arizona so we come and we survey the property and we get a steak or two in the ground before we leave. We're running this gamma ray installation cancellation counter which goes back to steve reese

1:01:57 Totally incredible that I have to find a website that's in Germany but in English and I contact them. And they're talking about a guy named Dr Armin Bickel, and I'm like no California City project was Stephen Reese who is that? Stephan, Stephan Reese primary water what's that they had no clue the technology that Reese used from Bickel who was One of the operation paper clip Germans brought to United States with Vertebran Braun ends up at Vandenberg Air Force Base because he's German and Steve is in the area. They meet, and Steve is fascinated and they're talking the same language and he starts using them on weekends and this technology used that technology until 1985 when it passed. And then Paul Power God bless his soul found easy way out and went back to witching

1:02:44 So i find this ice can with that and then use the russian residence acoustic profiling to look down on doing cross sections to five thousand feet in texas. Is there all fighting over this crummy one thousand feet here those are expensive well most of our stuff is way up here three four five six hundred feet cuz like you said they went shallow back in a day hit water either that's not good water or it's drying out so we come in for few thousand dollars which is a percentage small percentage of the drilling cost. So we're trying to be an insurance policy, right? For this very expensive big rig to come in and you're going to pay him if it's dry. You still gonna pay! Right so you better have some hard data fine you want to use which is God bless you there something really good out there but how about some hard data rain as we bring and will work with the driller right and the southeast is still pretty reasonable

1:03:34 I'm drilling you get fifteen twenty five thousand dollar well done in the southeast they're trying to put all dollars out of business at west colorado. New mexico i got a beautiful while these people with eight hundred feet next week we reservoir it's all uranium and horrible water they can't clean it cuz are on this big plateau i said the waters below it okay you gotta go fourteen hundred feet, the state won't let him drill new aquifers now their comment You see how the black in it and that's a totally totalitarian state in many ways especially with water. And the driller coming back so you know you won't believe this they want me to let so yeah its wicked colorado their drillers dropping out california expense for your well would be sixty thousand minimum start first fifteen twenty have you ever done work in florida

1:04:24 Honestly not i mean i get inquiries you know when and i live there and i know all the blue hole stories in the spring so no. And it's a neat geology but i haven't gotten down there i did a demo once back twenty twenty and coven when i was going all way across country stuff but, i have had some proposals that it's a long way to send an operator but i'm doing a lot of work carolina is georgia tennessee these days cuz they're back into drought Yes yes well you know if you do get a bigger project to good reason the company for maybe can squeeze me and on slow tuesday or something we can work something out. Absolutely but man i think it's amazing my primary interest is just in the cleaner primary water having gone so far down the structured water rabbit hole,

1:05:08 The idea that it's halfway there right now in my backyard, it's half way but instead I've got the runoff with all the agricultural bullshit. It's really frustrating and it's like I'd really like to go the rest of the way and get natural best quality water possible for my family but Yep. A lot of people drink from that, they say I got a well you know it's okay and we're using it we still buy our water outside wouldn't be needed if we just also drank our water from our well and I said well I've got to survey it and now look at the evidence in the area maybe and some spring evidence or this so that the geology And the more data I have from that area, the more projects I have. The more I could say, Hey, your chance might be pretty good but we still got to get on the ground and survey it and some will say, I'll do it at least if I know from you man is not there then fine as peace of mind and maybe I'll look for a better property, you know? Well, I mean the first step is to believe it's possible so many people are conditioned to think that it's impossible and that's a stumbling block that makes people not even try. And even with this scarcity spell as I like to phrase it

1:06:07 A big aspect of it is like, it's really hard to tell the downstream effects of just instilling this idea and engineering this concept in the American people because even just with oil or something you tell people its scarce and hard-to get. It just deincentivizes anyone else from starting an oil company! Why would I? There are five and that's all there can be cause thats all the oil we have so... Its like man.. Just the downstream effects The cascade Different ways that it affects people. It's really wild, so this has been super educational I mean you talk fast i think we jammed four hours of content in two hour podcast gotta love it and I kind of felt like this was true with water but I just

1:06:51 Now i can be a lot more confident and i wish you the best success and i hope people start seeing past the scarcity spell cast by the management class any other links or any other information to give people before we call it in. I have been website primary water technologies dot com and then there's primary water well locators dot com rp w wells dot com and then a bunch of sites around the world pretty much gonna google primary water you end up with me are my european partners are down Marie in Paraguay or over and you know, so yeah. You know it's a three generation now paradigm but we're still pioneers it's just crazy right? And so there is not really people doing like looking at people talk about the concept like let's go! Let's see if we can find this stuff So We Are At Your Call anywhere in the world have a really cool project coming up in Kenya on Lake Victoria and I got equipment in Nairobi

1:07:44 I can get pretty much anywhere we just haven't been in antarctica yet but Igor and Russia will be happy to go, i'll be happy to send him. And he can send me pictures. But there is water on that continent under that ice. Zero doubt yes i do appreciate your enthusiasm and again you know the things we talk in the plus show that maybe were gonna open up the water system when open up the oil to really get the abundant oil and maybe even get off the debt based currency. I mean i can't say all my breath but i will cross my fingers i give me that at least so thanks for sharing all this great info with me and not take care thank you greg enjoyed it,

1:08:27 And boom goes the dynamite. All right, I love that one! I'm glad it kind of showed up on its own and we could dive into it. I know I'm looking and sounding a little rough We'll get into that too but when it comes to the content here You know I'm committed to this idea That the biggest conspiracy is perception management and this idea That if we didn't have the controller class managing things for us We'd all be dead because everything's so scarce We need their very careful calculations To make out all this work But I'm waking up more and more all the time to the fact that the mechanisms ingrained in nature, they're there. They prove themselves when you engage with them and they were always meant to be abundant. And that is why The Elite have pushed so hard to keep us from engaging with the natural system. Very lofty agenda when you think about it we can't really be removed from our environment and constantly distracted but...they do it! Look where we are

1:09:26 Our houses are largely closed off and we pump in free on cool there and we never plant anything or eat anything directly from the free earth. We don't catch rain water or lean into what so many inventors and geniuses have found out about abundant atmospheric energy, It's crazy. So when the prospect of this show came up, I knew we would be able to fold oil in two and it just goes to show the earth was built as a paradise like i say and only through centuries of tyranny have we had that knowledge stripped out of us And I would love to find someone doing these kind of wells in Florida if you know anyone let me know

1:10:07 I would be great at my own personal family spring of primary structured water. I think we would all agree Tom Cowan referenced Victor Shawberger saying that you want water that comes up through the surface naturally because it knows the intelligence of nature knows that its ready to be drank and then might be the S tier option but a close second is tapping into the primary water underneath the bedrock I guess it can all start to sound a little exploitative, but it can be done respectfully. And many of us listening don't really have an issue but what about the American Southwest? The Middle East? The Congo areas where they're in droughts? This could save a lot of lives and give them the best version of a crucial resource

1:10:55 I also really like stories where it seems like something was coming out and it was going to help a lot of people, and then they put the clamp down on it. Now you can go find some of these particular wells chained off! They know what they're doing. In The Plus Show that is where we got into geopolitics and oil and games being played with the Strait of Hormuz and concept of supply chain shock and shortages coming down the pike And Mark had some takes that I rarely hear. He seems to see a deeper game being played and he thinks the Trump administration is positioning to make us the exporter of oil, and cut out the traditional oil networks It's interesting though because if you believe in ambiotic or abundant oil that should be possible So maybe they're gonna lift the cap on that part of the scarcity spell Because they are desperate...I don't know

1:11:47 As I said, i think he's a bit too optimistic on Trump but I like to hear hot takes that make me think twice about what might be going on at a level far above my pay grade. I really don't know...I don't think any of us do This is an age where the simplest events and situations have reporting all over the map from all extremes And you can barely verify the simplest things I of course root for success. We live here, my kids will likely grow up here unless the situation forces us to move out so i want Mark to be right on a lot of what he was saying in that second hour He does have the career experience and resume of someone whose read-on things should be respected but who knows Like I said, I will cross my fingers but I wouldn't hold my breath and I think that's fair to say

1:12:35 Okay, so in higher side news I'm sure a lot of you saw my Twitter rants from the hospital But for those who didn't I had to check myself in with extreme pain. I knew I'd been hurting for awhile groin pain on and off several months but I waited until I couldn't stand it Turns out I have a nine millimeter kidney stone and that is considered very big I had three days in the hospital all by myself because my wife and kids were out of town We had a trip back to saint louis planned and even though it sucks to be alone in a place like that. It's also not a place for kids so i said you know you go do the thing i will be fine, it was very rough i will spare you all the details my voice is so bad because when i got put under anesthesia

1:13:23 and I got a breathing tube put in, it's just all sore and hard to talk. I guess i haven't even talked much in awhile because I've been at home trying to recover but yeah that is the big part of it They got me on seven different drugs. I had to breathe in this little plastic thing five times a day or five times an hour all day, I should say to make sure I didn't get fluid in my lungs or pneumonia due to that anesthesia it's been pretty intense. I currently have a stint and basically a hose up my dick back to the kidney It is super painful This cat loves to make it even worse

1:14:05 And next week, I guess I have to go back in. They'll hit the stone with a laser and I'll piss out sand and gravel for a day and then I'll be back to normal." So it's such a mindfuck too to think about future pain that you're going to have to schedule but it was life-threatening because a kidney being blocked too long can lead to a bad infection or sepsis. I knew I'd been neglecting my health for awhile now When you have two little kids, it just happens. You put them first so often your own health is on the back burner and then when you do get a moment... A lot of times at least for me I tend to overindulge because i feel like I earned it because I've put in so much time and energy with the kids It's like let me eat some junk food or this or that but clearly it all caught up to me

1:14:54 So now I will take the stone breaker herb and stay very hydrated, and I recommend you do the same because you don't want to learn the hard way like I did. But it's tough just sitting here now so let's move on to The Last Show's rating Andy Hunt control alt history...I knew it would be a fan favorite! I really enjoyed it and its highest rating we've had in awhile A very rare 4.9 out of 5 Love It And I do hope we keep him in the rotation. If he keeps putting out good stuff, he's a perfect guy to check in with every 8-10 months or so and bring you the highlights of what I liked from his latest round of content and I couldn't be happier with that rating if you're happy I'm happy

1:15:40 I know today's topic isn't as dramatic or salacious, but it could be important to many of us. And I know his analysis of the games Trump is playing is going to trigger several emotional one-star reviews It's okay. I am braced for it. I just like this topic as just further evidence of how this world and nature was meant to be before it was over adulterated And I think Mark is fun to listen to and time will tell how right or wrong he might be on some of those hot takes. All right, now the meetup calendar July 28th Elgin Illinois at the Side Street Studio and August 8th Pullman Washington Rico's Public House August 9th Trails Cafe in LA August 15th Los Ranchos New Mexico at Hopps Brewery

1:16:32 August 16th, St. Paul Minnesota Blackstack Brewing also August 16th Albuquerque New Mexico that is the tech conference Rob Greenier's probably gonna be there that's nice and then we have a new one here Upstate New York Apocalypse Drinking Team Meetup and that's in Gainesvorte New York slash Saratoga at The Dancing Grain Farm Brewery Awesome. Expand your local network through these THC icebreaker events, it's how we all live better lives. It's how we win and thanks for listening I'm going to go lay down your move deep drill deniers water crisis charlatans and sorcerers of the scarcity spell your fucking move Do you feel betrayed by the ones you're told to trust?

1:17:23 Well you know you don't get much help from the ones that beat you up Like a dog that don't obey We're just left to lick the poop They say it will be okay Or at least, be over soon And the cycle continues Cause we don't seem to care For those who come after her No deal to repair Bread in circuses Really is an awful trade But what are you gonna do? It's the deal our parents made We see the crash is coming, why won't someone grab... Apathetic to the next collision Haven't even had time to heal So the cycle continues Cause we don't make this space For those who come after Much love lost in this place

1:18:24 They don't change their ways at the top So we gotta change ours Make all the new pain stop And tell the story of ours Seems so hard to admit who else will try Just wanna be comfortable I guess Easier to believe a lie The cycle continues Cause it's all about me and the ones that come after Can try to get themselves free We always have the numbers, we never have the drive. We sometimes have a mindset right, rarely tempted to thrive. Much elevation to hunt hard to truly go when so again And the cycle continues, we don't even discuss for all of those who come after cause no one did it for us

1:19:43 Continues ignorance and blind faith Hope the ones who come after can learn from our mistakes