Topic: Cell Phones

Referencing experiments by Jerry Pollack, Dr. Tom Cowan explains how sunlight and grounding increase the velocity and charge of gel water. Conversely, he warns that cell phone radiation inhibits gel formation, potentially contributing to conditions like congestive heart failure.

The conversation critiques modern technology as "anti-life," citing the environmental cost of mining, slave labor, EMF radiation, and psychological manipulation via dopamine hits. Kujawa traces this obsession back to ancient Greek "techna" and the elevation of the rational mind over the natural world. She suggests that truly evolved beings would not need spaceships or hardware, as consciousness provides immediate contact without technological intermediaries.

Knowles identifies 1983 as a pivotal year where a "portal or gateway" opened, fundamentally changing the world. He cites the launch of TCP/IP, the first cell phone call, the Hudson Valley UFO flap, and the publication of Shirley MacLaine’s *Out on a Limb* as evidence. He argues that the "New Age" movement didn't disappear but became so mainstream (yoga, acupuncture, Whole Foods) that it is now invisible.

A discussion emerges regarding the voluntary nature of impersonal controls, specifically the ubiquitous use of cell phones despite known risks. The conversation explores how these devices manipulate pleasure centers, heighten anger through social media, and potentially impact physical health. The host and guest question where individuals draw the line on quality-of-life reductions in exchange for staying connected to the social order.

Ross Ben defines "shadow work" as the practical effort to change one's relationship with technology, specifically by reducing dependency on cell phones. He suggests taking incremental breaks from social media and mobile devices to improve mental well-being. The host notes that online testimonials frequently highlight the happiness found by those who disconnect from platforms like Facebook and Instagram for extended periods.

Ross Ben analyzes the astrological significance of the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction that occurred on December 21, 2020. He describes Aquarius as the ruler of impersonal controls, citing the cell phone as a primary tool for monitoring personal movement and privacy. The conversation explores how these astrological cycles represent long-term shifts rather than single-day events.

Sophia Smallstorm provides information on how to support her work through Avatar Products and her monthly newsletter. She mentions specific products like cell phone shielding cases, organic cotton masks, and specialized laundry powder. Smallstorm also notes a decline in interview requests from other hosts, attributing it to the widespread suppression of controversial content on platforms like YouTube.

Professor Angela J. Davis explains that the killing of Black men and women by law enforcement is a historical continuity dating back to slavery and the Black Codes. While lynchings and unjustified killings occurred throughout the Civil Rights movement, the modern era is distinguished primarily by the prevalence of cell phone video. This technology provides visual evidence for events that families have reported for generations without being believed.

The recovery of the missing hunter's remains revealed a dismantled body, with only a skull and pelvis found in separate locations. His backpack was found neatly placed against a tree with his wallet and snacks intact, and an open energy drink was discovered on a nearby stump overlooking civilization. Despite the proximity to help, the hunter never signaled, and investigators were unable to recover any data from his cell phone.

Paulides discusses the role of technology in recent cases, noting that electronic devices often fail or contain unexplainable data. He highlights a case where a hunter's phone took a photo that Verizon engineers confirmed was taken by that specific hardware, yet the software was incapable of producing a file with those dimensions and pixelation. This scientific validation suggests an external force or anomaly can physically affect digital technology during these events.

The segment covers the risks of carrying active cell phones in pockets, with Dr. Brown suggesting that larger phone sizes might be a subtle industry move to discourage pocket storage. He recommends keeping phones on airplane mode when on the person to reduce radiation exposure. The conversation touches on the difficulty of disconnecting from the "dopamine hit" of notifications versus the health benefits of reduced EMF.

Sophia Smallstorm shares an anecdote about a handyman who carried multiple cell phones and experienced phantom vibrations in his femur bone. She explains this as the piezoelectric crystals in the bone tuning to the phone's frequency. The handyman reportedly found relief only after using a specialized shielding case provided by Smallstorm.

The second hour of the interview covers deeper esoteric topics, including the "Sun-Moon Matrix," the "Hollow Earth," and the sun as a potential portal. Additionally, the guests discuss practical concerns such as EMF wave avoidance and the health impacts of cell phone radiation. The host concludes by thanking the guests and encouraging listeners to sign up for the Plus membership to access the full discussion.

Susan Clark describes the personal toll of her activism, including being targeted with utility outages and living in financial instability. She explains that she does her work as a volunteer and relies on occasional "angels" for survival. Clark emphasizes her commitment to a non-toxic lifestyle, noting she has never paid a cell phone bill, and offers her private email through the host for those who wish to connect or offer support.

Red eyes are a consistent detail in nocturnal sightings of the Chicago winged humanoids, though they are rarely reported during daylight encounters. Despite numerous sightings, high-quality photographic evidence remains elusive due to the speed of the creatures and poor lighting. There is speculation regarding a potential supernatural or extra-dimensional aspect that may interfere with capturing the beings on camera.

The Chicago massage therapist, Cindy Shilf, observed a gray alien transition triggered by a strange metallic sound emanating from a client's supposedly powered-off cell phone. Shilf described the entity as appearing through "zigzag electrostatic energy" and making a sound similar to the mysterious "trumpet sounds" recorded globally since 2011. The incident suggests that modern digital technology and specific frequencies may be used by non-human entities to facilitate their presence or transitions.

David Noakes advocates for a "Caveman Diet" consisting of meat, fish, and vegetables while strictly avoiding sugar and carbohydrates to prevent disease. He emphasizes the importance of Vitamin D and sunlight, dismissing concerns about melanoma as "scare stories." The segment also touches on the potential health risks of modern environmental factors like cell phone frequencies and fluorescent lighting.

Elisa asserts that rituals are used to harvest human energy and connect with malevolent entities for power. She claims to have encountered her own clones in the 1980s and warns that modern technology like computers and cell phones serve as access points for these forces. She suggests that the ultimate goal is the usurpation of the entire human populace through biotech and organic tech.

The concept of "earthing" or "grounding" is introduced as a way to discharge electromagnetic frequencies (EMF) from the body by walking barefoot on the earth. Reference is made to studies in Scandinavia where cell phone towers were banned near schools due to concerns about DNA disruption and cancer clusters in children. Walking on sand is specifically recommended for residents of coastal cities like San Diego.

The group debates the feasibility of the phone calls made by passengers on the hijacked 9/11 flights, noting the lack of cell service at high altitudes in 2001. They mention voice-altering technology featured on Jesse Ventura's show as a possible explanation for faked calls. The films Flight 93 and World Trade Center are criticized as government-sanctioned propaganda designed to exploit grief.