THC 16: Bob Hansen & Paul Herrmann | UFOs, Government Lies, & The $5 Footlong

00:06 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood What's happening people Greg Carlwood from San Diego drinking a little drink smoking a little smoke another episode of the higher side chats I'm here with Paul Herman and Bob Hanson. How does it hang in Jive turkeys? Two comics from the La Jolla Comedy Store and all over San Diego really, and today we thought we'd talk about

00:54 Conspiracies and government in the general shit that's going on. It's been a crazy couple of days It's actually funny that we're doing this today because it's been fucking kind of crazy lately our first black president got our credit rating dropped Which is funny funny in itself But what do you think about what's going on right now? Interestingly enough, just to throw in a sad note. An hour ago I looked at the AP and the Illuminati requested a bailout so we're really in a lot of trouble there. We were talking before we actually started this about Obama like Paul, you think Obama has good intentions?

01:37 I haven't seen anything like there's there hasn't been anything from him that has just made me go like what the fuck are you thinking. I mean and I can I can't even count how many times during George W.'s tenure in office how many questionable decisions, how many conflicts of interest and I think that Obama inherited a real shitstorm. And by no means do i agree with everything that he's done. I think he's made some major mistakes But I also think he's done some pretty amazing things that he will never get credit for. If W had taken out Osama Bin Laden, He would have been riding that shit for fucking months! So you think that actually happened the way they said it happened? Because i think its very suspect that people who apparently did are now dead

02:25 Well, no actually the SEAL team that died in the Copter crash in Afghanistan were not... No? I thought it was Noble Six. It was SEAL Team 6 but none of the people that died were actually part of the SEAL because SEAL Team six is a big group of guys so none of the people that were involved with the raid on the compound were killed in the Copter crash. Okay Yeah different group of guys but This this is why some conspiracies I can buy into and some like I can't write my experience My vast experience has led me to believe that usually the simplest answer it whatever makes the most logical sense is the case and In that situation, I think they had been hunting him for a really long time. I think they had Intel I think Obama made a very ballsy move because of that shit have blown up in his face and the Pakistani government

03:19 if that had set off a firestorm with them because we didn't involve them in the planning and the execution and everything, it would have blown up in his face. And everyone would have been saying what a fucking moron he is right but we got him! It was like two days later I was on to The Deficit and The Debt Ceiling all this other... well The Debt Ceiling wasn't quite in the news yet but you know we just kind of breezed over real quick distraction yeah I think it's suspect that the United States government is now involved in funeral proceedings, burying him out at sea. Oh yeah we just dump them in the ocean. Don't you find that a little suspect? Of course! Hiding the evidence like... Yeah I mean I think people are always gonna

04:06 Always gonna question that because obviously you can't confirm anything without his remains On a large scale, but at the same time if he hadn't done that there would have been backlash because he didn't They didn't treat the remains within the realm of the Muslim culture and their beliefs. See, I've heard it's not a Muslim thing at all! It's a Muslim thing that they have to be buried basically within 24 hours of their death so whether that's burial at sea or a burial underground but you can't like according to the Muslim faith keep the body

04:46 Out or anything for more than that. Yeah, and cremation also is not something that's acceptable in the Maybe you did maybe Bob what do you think about the about the bin laden thing and obama in general well first of all uh... obama um i am a critic of obama but I do give him credit for humility he doesn't take credit for it but his main economic contribution since 2008, he actually is responsible for the five dollar footlong people don't realize that now the problem is we got fat cats on wall street damn near saved the country double T's its just really hideous I don't trust that night. I don't like God tells me not to trust Obama. I voted for Ron Paul by the way, and I should have a fucking shit out of it's one of my mom but be careful because you know one of the main characteristics of the anti crisis that he rules for seven years and he is

05:39 extremely charismatic, and a lot of people follow him and see them as the Savior before the real Christ—whoever that may be or not be—comes into play. So definitely be careful if he does his terms or whatever...you know? Seven and eight aren't really far away so The whole trick is this. That's what I think, he's a puppet Yeah exactly He's a puppet You know since the Egyptian time the whole trick is you hide your science or your technology from the masses so it's seen as magic when they see it and that tricks them into believing into their deity And also if you have self-fulfilling prophecies write a book about crazy things that are going to happen and then you have the science without the public knowing to make those things happen Guess what? Everybody believes it! And that's how religion exists Who's in charge here?!

06:38 So it's the same trick. You get everyone to believe Obama is going to save you and then you go, hey there is your Bible. But I mean that came true but the right wing has always used the anti-Christ theory um... To scare people out of any candidate that disagreed with whichever republican candidate raise the most money i mean you know they've always use that anti christ we have an instant about about egypt's so

07:17 Because I mean, I totally agree with you there. Have you ever watched Ancient Aliens at all? That's all that show is about. Well not up close but... You know what I've seen the programs. Fucking jokes is what we do. This guy! This fucking guy Okay I can say fucking okay good Oh you can say anything. You can say shit Wow I'm gonna write this down You could say damn hell I'm gonna break out some dam and hell later It's going to be after my shitting fucks What are we talking about I definitely believe in the possibility of ancient aliens based on a technology and things we found. Like batteries would be the biggest one in the pyramids, for example that you know these ancient nations had batteries now What I would be more careful about or more concerned with because you know the past is any upcoming alleged alien attacks Because I think there's a lot of signs going towards fake alien attacks So be careful because the ancient aliens... Hollywood Yeah exactly it might be a plant to get that in your brain like all if Hollywood is

08:14 Just to get you prepared for it. That's why you have well attack or just their existence I have heard that project blue beam you might be referring to No, I think they toured but fish yeah, they were they were a good group but they're based off this apparent black ops project that creates holograms and they had there's apparently quotes of Kissinger saying you know first first it's gonna be Communists that everyone's gonna be afraid of then it's gonna be terrorists. Once we've exhausted all the human groups We are gonna present an extraterrestrial threat And there's also rumors at Reagan

08:53 Was one who who knew of that plan and wanted it to be under his rule. That's why he got sloppy with that speech Yeah, he did. Yeah, fuck yeah, you know a little weird like have you heard that Paul? Oh, yeah oh, yeah I mean he's twice He's referenced The alien threat and how the you know we as a people would have to come together regardless of nation or religion To fight this, you know dangerous threat but Yeah, I mean he mentioned that in several speeches so It's weird because he could just be an enthusiast You know and that's the problem with the conspiracy is like they're the idea that everything is fucking connected every word. Is like People hang on every word in certain sentences Certain sectors of the conspiracy movement hinge on entire just sentences that one guy said one time it's like oh

09:45 He could be an enthusiast. He could just like you or I have an interest in UFOs and so he says, that would unite the world but at the same time it could be planting a seed. And it's... And it could've just been planting a seed to end the Cold War You know what I mean? It could have been metaphoric, although it didn't sound metaphoric. Bill Clinton made comments as well during his presidency when there was a student or somebody that had asked him a question about whether or not an alien was recovered in Roswell and Clinton made a comment and it was very distinct comment during the speech that like if they did and we do have an alien body

10:27 are possession or whatever then I wanna know too and so I mean, I don't think that the president is necessarily privy to all of that information I'm glad you mentioned that. A lot of it is corporate, now. There's been a change in public school history books. Apparently the Bay of Pigs no longer refers to what was going on during Kennedy's administration The Bay of Pigs now refers to all the girls Clinton dated. That's kind of interesting way of throwing that out there. This guy had wealth and knowledge By the way he mentioned the Cold War He had an uncle who killed 12 soldiers in the Cold War How did I not tell you? with Dyckwell? He wasn't even in the military. Yeah, he was a terrible guy don't worry about that There's a misconception with conspiracy theories I'm glad you mentioned what makes it conspiracy and all that because one of the first of all i hate to word conspiracy theorist yes It's like we just use it because it's easy to identify ourselves but I think I said once on my last show is it was like the n-word for people who think That was the way I described

11:20 I don't but you go with that's what yeah, you could have that. I'm not gonna do anything with it right there down please do but the um But the problem is there's no unity and its kinda like Building model ships. There's different levels of Deep and how far you wish to go? They're not expertise levels they're just levels of how far you wish to get involved two 9-eleven truthers can Agree and say yes to each other for hours And one of them believes in a moon landing the other one doesn't and then they're just button heads again So it's such a broad name for so many people who are really just asking a whole bunch of questions well, and like I would not consider myself a conspiracy theorist enthusiast

12:01 Enthusiast maybe. I mean there's a lot of them that i really find interesting and then there's a lot of them that i find ridiculous, and then there are some that i did find interesting until i researched more and was like yeah thats probably what it was you know what i mean? I mean like the moon landing is a good one Sorry, okay Well and I'd like to look like the moon landing was a good example of one that I was like When I watched some of the documentaries and shit. I was like holy shit This is crazy They could have made this in blah blah blah And then what I watched some other stuff and read more about it now is yeah You know they have a point though It would be really difficult to get that many people involved to stay quiet

12:46 for that amount of time. Not that they haven't done it with other stuff, I mean to be honest i can't talk about it too much online but my grandfather was one of the founding scientists at Los Alamos and worked on the Manhattan Project directly under Oppenheimer and he's seen a lot of crazy shit and most of it like 99% of it he won't talk about still even though he's fucking like 85. It's so fucked! I mean but he has seen... Hold that shit in He's he saw shit before I was born that people still don't know about you know what? I mean or else he'd be able to talk about it So him, I mean

13:23 Yeah, he worked at Lawrence Livermore Lab after that. I mean and it's like high level... This guy can get us what we want No no no no! It's seriously when my mom's background check My first wife was from Thailand originally And they went into why is your son married to a foreign... Incidentally next week at the Comedy Store We are doing the Paul Herman Memorial Show If I get killed, you know why. No. But yeah they're very fucking tight on their security and it's crazy how much they can control but something like the moon landing...

14:04 Yeah, I think the moon landing happened. You know? No yeah! Go crazy and say that position... It's a very controversial position to take. I've seen conspiracy theories. I see the ones where we fake the moon landing and then I hear from you know the astronauts that were there they said they saw UFOs on their way to the Moon Yeah, I mean there's two. Moon landing is something to be very careful with you have a...I think Buzz Aldrin is your guy he was known to actually ramble get drunk for years after the moon landing and run around on his front lawn reported by neighbors screaming about covering up lies and he would just get drunk and ramble on his front lawn He had wives and a mistress I believe we're not getting him in trouble but uh

14:47 You know there are documentaries out there. Fucking God! Yeah, I know right? I got jokes. He's one of those guys who really is a little mysterious If you see the new Transformers movie The Dark of the Moon it is called Buzz Aldrin in it and he shows up and all these civilians All the good-looking Hollywood civilian kids are now led into CIA meetings on how to fight aliens what have you because that happens So Buzz Aldrin walks into the room because we're talking about finding an Autobot base on the moon when they went to the moon in 1969, so it's taking place in present day. Buzz Aldrin walks into the room looks at kids and goes yep there is a lot of stuff about the Moon that we didn't really tell you then walks out of the fucking room!

15:32 Does anyone else think that's weird that like an astronaut one of the three who went on the moon? It's kind of weird to have one of the guys 40-something years later just show up in his 70s You know you'd think he'd eat you had such a tight leash on to have him just show up in in a movie and a commercial Hollywood movie And go yeah, we didn't tell you everything. We knew about the moon I don't doubt that they didn't tell us everything but to say that we never landed on it at all. Right, no yeah I'm not saying that But i definitely think that there's...I mean obviously there's tons of scientific information that they withhold from us That's not in question and that's a fucking fact

16:15 You know it you can it's in your immediate family. You know that to be a fact yeah, which is so fucked That's fucking badass though and it's hard man. It's hard I was just home last week I was just home last week And we took him out for breakfast and like he's starting to talk a little bit more now But then there's other times where it's like I'll ask him something and it's just like down shut shut down super and he's totally nice about it you know I mean but he keeps it a lot. When he says, I wouldn't know anything about that then it's just like alright we have to move on to the next topic. So how old is he now? 85. In good health? Relatively yeah actually my grandmother just passed a few months ago so he's dealing with trying

16:59 It's fucked because my aunts and uncles like want to put him in a home now, and he's like fuck you I have it house so I don't have to do that like But yeah He still up around and painting and fucking whittling and why? Yeah, I think I get so pissed when someone who has that wealth and knowledge is so goddamn frustrating Yeah You know if you're 85. You should at least be telling your family you shouldn't leave I mean you should be writing at least have a book ready for the time well And he knows would they be in danger if they know oh Think it's not I think yeah sure is a part of him that wants to tell the concern is if I give them this information How fucked are they well and you're talking about another generation too that made oaths? And shit not to take some of this stuff to the grave. Oh, what the fuck isn't out That's just like but I mean you're talking again on my mother's grave But you're talking about a different generation completely where was like your word was your word and you know I get that he can't talk about all of it, but goddamn like there's so many

17:57 We need, I think we have a right to know. A lot of it was done using our money and our resources And we never will because no matter how many records they release about Roswell or Area 51 Or Magic Eyes or fucking whatever like it's all gonna be edited It's all gonna be what they want us to see you can't really trust any of the information that's going to come out through You know requests through the Freedom Of Information Act or anything because edited or omitted or restricted, whatever. There's another thing about the moon. Have you heard about the Santa Claus? Well, he lives there right well He lived not only does he live on the moon but uh no it was apparently a code word for UFO like when they were talking back to make Houston They and and you can and you can watch You can watch some clips where they actually say like we got I got another Santa Claus coming up on the right

18:53 and it's like you know to someone listen they're like what the fuck does that mean yeah but i mean you can find these there's a documentary out there you should check out it's called uh funny thing happened on the way to the moon. I think that's okay pretty sure that's what it's called where i'm getting this from but yeah, But it goes so far, because then there's people who are like not only are there aliens on the way to the moon but there is ruins on the moon. Not only are there ruins on the moon but there is active life on the moon. You know what I mean? Whenever it gets said they'll be someone who takes it to the next step and you're like I mean where does the fucking line get drawn? I saw one theory recently and granted it was interesting and fascinating but i don't know if i can buy into it. It was a theory about how you know that when they went to the moon there were craters that they found that they could not measure because they could not see or measure detect any end so they don't know how deep these craters go. The theory was that

19:50 Aliens have been using the moon as like a base. Like the Death Star, you know? And it was like that is fascinating That's a really interesting theory very sexy. Very sexy Yeah But like whether or not that's true I mean You can't...you don't have any evidence to really back that up it's a theory I listen to some really out there stuff. It's not that i believe it, but I'm just like...it's fucking interesting and I like a little bit of possible fact with my fiction instead of just watching Stargate SG-1. I'll watch a guy who claims to have been abducted as a child and put into a project where he's been going through wormholes his whole life

20:44 You know, yeah. I mean that's the Montauk project That's literally there's people out there who claim they were kidnapped and you know They say that 90% of people who went through died because they were just used as cannon fire like sheep Just go through this wormhole and we're gonna tweak it until someone comes back And I mean that's that's fucked Can you could? To take that and say you believe it, I mean you're going... You've taken a lot of leaps. Right! You're saying that we have interplanetary travel. And I mean... Was that interplanetary or is that interdimensional? Interdimensional. It could be dimensional if you are considering where does it go? Is to another dimension or is it to another planet? Well like a wormhole even through Einstein's basic theory of relativity theoretically in wormholes

21:34 are not only possible but exist. And there is evidence of ancient cultures believing in stargates, and you know there's the wall in Peru that has the door entrance carved out just into rock and it doesn't go anywhere... I think they call it the uh actually the translation is like gate of the gods or something like that. Are you talking about one that's like an impossible cut? that when you look at it, there's- you look at the way it's cut and your- there's no way to get access to the way they cut this out. No I don't know. I think thats a different one but its- Peru has the cor-

22:10 Side note, Peru has the most crazy shit of any place on the planet. No totally agreed I mean the Nazca lines you've got meet you Piku Machu Picchu Yeah And then there's there's another those machu picchu and then piku and then there's one that sounds kind of like that That's another site that's different and the carvings in the rocks are just like they're you know several ton stones that are Put perfectly together. You can't slide a piece of paper between runway like an alien That's the NASA lines that is and that's around there isn't it? The NASA lines is in Peru Yeah, yeah I mean they're the it's just hundreds maybe thousands of lines in different directions and They look a lot like runways. They look just like running ways and there's a lot of images that are carved out like monkeys and

22:58 and different animals that are only visible from the sky. So it's like why would somebody thousands of years ago make something... How? How would they even know that its going to look like a monkey? Yeah, how were they getting into sky just define what this looks like exactly if we think it looks like well just the amount of technology is like you know basic traditional history teaches us an expects us to believe that the pyramids could be built without so much as the wheel That just doesn't, I mean logically when you have modern structural engineers that say we couldn't build this now with the technology that we have. With bulldozers and lasers and shit

23:39 We couldn't build this now, but people that didn't even have the wheel were able to do it with stones and basic primitive tools. It doesn't make sense. What were you talking about? The gate of the gods? Well the theory is that is was a stargate and supposedly the shamans, the legend... And the people who are indigenous still believe uh there was a shaman that was transported like he walked into this thing and it's about the size of you know it's about it's about six six six and a half feet tall, and then you know an average person's wingspan or whatever. Uh yeah supposedly there was a golden disc that had descended from the sky that they put in and it made it work and

24:27 Vanished and was never seen again. And like a bunch of shamans and locals witnessed this, and that legend has perpetuated forever So I mean you can't just take stuff like that and dismiss it as simple folklore or mythology. They're primitive. Right. And their beliefs the beliefs of like the Mayans in a lot of South America natives from thousands of years ago match up so, so closely with the Hopi Indians and the... what's the other tribe? For obvious reasons forgetting it. Not the Sioux. The Cleveland Indians? No no they were indigenous to like New Mexico anyways. The Mayans? No. The Pueblos?

25:21 But I can't remember what their name is, but I remember to what it translates to and it was like star people or descendants of the stars. There's a lot of evidence that there was contact in those early primitive cultures with something that either Either supernatural or alien. I mean one way, we look at our current religion and when you grow up with that like me and Bob both went to fucking private Catholic school so... That is correct! When you grow up- I probably would have except my dad was expelled from Catholic high school So was I. I didn't do well in Catholic school. I was so ugly even Father O'Connor wouldn't take me to the prom. This fucking guy

26:15 Yeah, but I mean when you grow up with uh just that myth you just it didn't seems normal or whatever You then the end you look back and you're just like oh well Instead of one god that you know guy lives in the sky they believed in 20 guys who lived in this guy But when you think about it from the other perspective from past to forward? You're like. Well where did they just come up with the story that They just decided that guys from the sky came and they were more powerful, and they worshipped them. And then they gave them technology... They just made that up? Why would you even make it up?! How would you have the imagination when you've never seen anything fly but a bird? Right!

26:56 not only airborne vehicles, but if you look at some of the artifacts that they've found. Exactly! That look exactly like airplanes... hand-carved airplanes with which they've proven they have taken some of those small artifacts and taken the dimensions and blown them up to a size that you can actually fly I mean that they are aerodynamic How are they coming up with that inspiration when they've never seen anything even close to it? It doesn't add up. You have to understand what's overtaken the ancient aliens is our whole Jesus, Moses and Mohammed. That's basically our three big figures

27:43 every one of the three major religions worships. And our big one in America, Jesus—the people who give us the Jesus stories are the same people who killed him in the same story as the Jews and Romans! So...and of course 100 years after the fact so you can only take so much stock and know every single story but I guess where I'm going is be careful of these other disinformations and deceivers like I really wanted to jump on zeitgeist and here's the reason. Because when you say conspiracy theorists, every hipster or whatever who has seen a commercial thinks that is the movie, that is the doctrine blah blah blah. Be careful of

28:26 the deceivers because a movie like Zeitgeist has, now some other people believe 80% truth which is the trick to get you to swallow that other very tricky 20% non-truth. It'll go off stuff a general stuff about 9-11 that you could find anywhere or whatever. They'll go off and be like, oh okay That's right I do the Federal Reserve stuff and they'll go in there and go that's right And then they'll throw in these crazy wacky twist with uh They know the first one of them he has the addendum and I tried to watch it third one I love it couldn't make it through really? I actually really liked the third one. You like the third one. I mean I believe me I'm open definitely Oh, I'm just my mind is fucking wide wide up but um, i'm open to the idea that

29:08 You know what you're saying that they're disinformation But I mean shit, I find them real. I found him to be like the highest production value of this type of material That you can get and I feel like they're like conspiracy 101 So like i've got some friends that are pretty hard to reach that i'm like, you know watch it I always skip the first one. I say watch addendum because it's about the money system which is like right? I mean That's the conspiracy if you get if you get down to it that we are complete slaves by this monetary system that is completely uh a

29:53 It is a pyramid scheme. What's the 20%? Exactly, yeah what's the 20 percent that is like what's the benefit for them I understand dissent and info on a broader idea but in Zeitgeist to give people 80% truth you know why not give them 0% truth it's like what's the benefit of... Because if you give him no truth then there's, I mean then they start you know. Well why give them anything? Then they start looking. What's the point of tweaking 20% like that's what i want to hear from you. To get across that particular message. What is the part that is apparent disinformation? Well um about connections mainly with

30:31 Okay, we have Jesus. We have our 25 guys before him you know Buddha and rest of them that are all They're all in the same story the same December for us a virgin birth the horse it's all the same story Astrologically there is there's other movements out there that believe that is actually a bigger Deception and you really have to put more concentration into The ley lines and not the astrology of where the energy comes from and putting more emphasis on those Yes, on the earth and putting all those monuments and temples and what have you on those. And they're just basically telling that this is a great deception One of one of the main theories out there against that 20% or 30 whatever percent of Zeitgeist I'm talking about is A new theory that Jesus is actually Satan in the Morning Star and by tricking so many people into Christianity They're tricking them into worshipping the devil

31:24 Huh. And because if you read the first two pages of, that's the first book Genesis If you read the first two pages of those it even separates God versus The Lord and the idea that Jesus always referred to as Lord is lord of something else like Lord of darkness or whatever in that Well there was a whole new trick Yeah I mean the thing with the Bible too in my family like you guys I mean I didn't grow up Catholic but Christian very strict on and my whole family is still super religious so I hope they're not watching. But the thing about the Bible is, and I've had this argument with my sister who's actually a pastor and she spends most of her... She's lived basically in Africa for the last 10 years but my argument is that the Bible is a buncha books

32:13 that were written over the span of like a hundred plus years, that were then taken edited cut up certain books were thrown out by you know a king. I mean absolutely and and that has been what the Bible as we know it now is not what it originally... I mean, it was a series of texts and there's lots of texts that have been thrown out. And there are lots of texts that have been changed to demonize women. Most people don't know like my sister cracked me up when I was arguing with her she didn't know this but Eve was not Adam's first wife Lilith was Adam's first wife

32:51 I've heard that. The story goes that Eve was created from the rib of Adam, and so women are submissive to men... That story was not part of the original text with Eve but before that you can find this in Genesis You know Adam's first wife and they were both created, you know separately They were both created put in the garden and actually what led to their breakup was that Lilith wanted to be on top during sex and Adam felt that that was like a domination of him or whatever and it was an abomination and couldn't do it. So she

33:35 Left the Garden of Eden and then God created Eve from Adam's rib. And that's why Lilith has, you know There's lots of old artwork and sculptures and things and Lilith has always been seen as a demon as a as a you know like almost like a succubus like She-devil, you know And that's why. That's where Lilith Fair comes from, I think there is a magazine named Lilith about women and female empowerment and everything. Fraser Crane had a domineering wife named Lilith. He did! on the subject of it being like you were saying that possibility that Jesus is the Morning Star Jesus is the I don't know describe to that but I mean right there no, I Yeah whatever. I don't subscribe to it either But it's interesting because you'll see a lot of stuff out there that the Illuminati and the global elite participate in satanic ritual and uh

34:33 I've, that ring a bell. There's video... there's that classic you'll see it's one of those Alex Jones things but now you see it everywhere yeah there's that classic 10 seconds of you know the creation-of-care ceremony the burning the wooden owl Moloch and Bohemian Grove like the cameras half upside down or whatever is there you see that everywhere now um I mean that's video of some satanic ceremony yeah there's clearly no close up of any any world leaders or what have you. I mean someone took a video of a satanic... I thought that was taken out of Dragnet, the scene that was filmed in Orange County That it was! I remember actually at one point the camera went down and you could see the guy's fuzzy boots.

35:14 But so you know something's going down when you have the Bilderberg footage is actually more disturbing than the Bohemian Grove because you actually see the world leaders and everything else named. You just see their faces, and they're all going into the same building That's a bit more disturbing. Well, there's lots of anything other than that or them just going in no Is that what we're talking about? Yeah? Yeah, I've seen that footage inside yeah Fortress I thought maybe there was some crazy shit. I just hadn't seen who knows There's I mean there's tons of elite and and

36:17 I don't know. It's the same reason that all of our processed food is made out of corn, it's the illusion of an option. It's the illusion that you have a choice. What do think about that? Do you think that coincidence just because it's a product of capitalism goes with cheapest options? Well yeah, it's the cheapest option to feed the poor and there are no nutrients in it. Let's face it, processed food is cheaper to eat More accessible than I mean if you're gonna go into South Central Los Angeles, I'm guessing there's not a Henrys on every corner next to you know the liquor store and Yeah, yeah so I mean it's like You know eating healthy especially now that like

37:07 I think that the health food movement has gained a lot of power by things like Super Size Me and just the amount of information that's now come out about how unhealthy a lot of this food is. But yeah, you've got 18 different bags of chips on store shelves that all look like different flavors and different brands and different colors to attract us and everything. But it's all basically when you break it down, it's all the same shit with different flavoring. Right? You know I mean... They sold it to us as a good marketing. Yeah they did! And I buy it cheese it to the bomb. Oh yeah. Cheese it man. I was trying to find it. I want to play this one. I don't think this is the one I was talking about but if students tasered after questioning John Kerry

37:56 This this might be don't tase me bro, but I didn't know it. Don't tase me bro was even a question about Conspiracy that's all right. I thought he was just being an asshole This is the one where the kid gets some words out of a tube this is this is one of the first Conspiracy things that I ever saw where I was like really yeah, this is because I remember. This is pretty old I mean 9-11 Is really what set me off to you know down a serious path and YouTube the fact that that option was even available But this I saw

38:31 way early and like right around when it happened, and I just thought you know Skullin- I'm like this sounds like a movie. You know? It doesn't sound believable but at the same time this kid is getting taken out Is he getting taken out because he's just wasting time and its ridiculous or cause of something else But its interesting Are you a member of Skull & Broken's psychology boast were in the same secret society as the broken thing? That's right, let me hear your answers This has been taken away People are applauding him being taken away. Are you serious? Seriously, everyone! I mean people start... that's the kid yeah. People start screaming for his defense though once he gets tased then they turn He made that charge In fairness every time i tase an audience member the crowd turns on me too it's weird

39:38 When he stood up to be taken out, he made a slight charge towards the podium which just gave them more excuse. Because he didn't go with them, he made a mini bee-line towards the podium. Towards Kerry? Right! You can do that... Once you did that now it's uh.. They were gonna tell him whether they needed to or not because he was... No, piss please you can have you can announce it's not a problem. This is this is not professional This is just a casual situation if you got a piss and get close to know one another in a situation like that It's always at the crowd

40:18 Cheers someone getting ejected instead of saying why don't you answer that question? Instead of instead of everybody's saying hey, why don't you leave that guy alone and why don't we have carry into this question and see You know Maybe Carrie will say oh That's all bullshit. And then everyone can go home afterwards and Google it and see if it's true, you know Not not that that's gonna tell you if it's necessarily true or not But it just seems ridiculous that in general I would like another I would like one If that's possible There are some things there though, I mean when the kid is thrown out humans have a certain appetite for... Oh i hope the camera caught that. Paul's little trick there opening a beer with a beard it's fucking tight. That's rad skills of a misspent youth. Once the kid gets thrown out people have an appetite for watching people get thrown out of places

41:09 You know they like to do that. They like to even you know and they liked it anyone who disrupts one show you know we seen in comedy all the time, you know the rest of your audience usually likes to see that one asshole go Again, not the venue though again like right you're really there's nothing you can say in a comedy club that Should get the audience to side with the person in the audience because this is a venue where they're paying money To see people go up and stage well And it's also a venue where I mean the guy wasn't heck correct me if I'm wrong This is the first time. I've actually seen that clip It didn't seem like the guy was he was tackling. He was Mike He was at a mic with a prepared question for a candidate during a debate Yeah, that's a little bit different if they wanted to they can even argue that he asked it aggressively because yeah He fired away three or four questions without waiting and kind of like screamed sure so they could already there And then I may have a hot list of topics where they're like if the person brings up

42:02 you know a b c d like you just boot i'm sure if he had gotten up and asked george bush about uh... you know his family's connections to the saudis you know into that so that bin laden's family i mean i'm sure that there is other questions it would've got him doing other than just are you guys part of same secret fraternity but uh... week another question as though if that is the case That is the case it seems like the guards have to know about that or no the guards almost have to be in on it The guard don't have to know that like well those aren't like those aren't like security guards or anything I mean they're their secret service are they because those particular ones to me looked like they were like They just worked for the school gymnasium, or whatever all they need isn't odd from someone in charge going get Exactly and that's that may be true. That's I mean that is true but it almost to me seems like oh

42:54 They would have to raise questions in their head. Like, why am I taking this kid out? Because he asked a question at a... you know. Probably but at the same time career-wise, you know, you got John Kerry's on stage You know there is probably this is a big deal and blah blah blah This is your chance to really protect Exactly! We've been trying to protect people your whole life and this is your chance to really protect someone important. Couldn't pass the psyche valve to become a cop. Yeah, yeah. You don't want to get fired for angering staff in front of uh... You don't want to get fired for anger and a stab from the John Kerry's one of the thing. Hey an important guys here We better just be on our shit and blah blah blah So throw the kid out but behind closed doors when you get home at night, I guess right? I'm saying like Don't you look at your day and you're like man I did have like I mean cuz 90% of time they just stand there Well, it depends on this situation. I mean like that's an extreme situation. I mean the guy was tasered and shit I mean but

43:45 Bob's got a point if the guy who just walked out with his hands up or just say hey I'm just talking here. I'm just talking here right when they that first day on towards the that was probably a mistake yeah that was i mean right around his biggest mistake oh yeah discredited this whole situation it made him look a little wrong it was uh strategically a poor move for his safety it was a bad idea The whole thing was a bad idea for his safety. Yeah, exactly But at least he had someone filming apparently and now now 162,000 do you think that kid gets the parties like I'm the don't taste me bro guy Like do you think chicks are like? Would you use that as a line? I actually I actually think that it probably hurts him I think yeah people just think he's a crazy asshole and I actually was insulted when don't taste me bro in

44:30 Became like an internet like Sound by I'm like, you know what that is exactly What's wrong? Like if I was that kid I'd be so frustrated because you obviously know he's into he's in knee-deep in the conspiracy shit He's doing this but I'd be like You know That's exactly what's wrong. Like they've got you buy the fucking dick and balls They've got you making fun of me instead of like looking up when I was talking about like oh I would feel like it's classic misdirection though. Exactly, exactly now it's almost like they're thinking they're so untouchable they're just like yeah put that on a t-shirt The first thing that they're going to do to anybody that's speaking the truth that they don't want to hear is discredit them through any means necessary if you look at...I don't know if you've ever read the book Fortunate Son

45:16 There was a documentary about it after the guy that wrote it died, but it was a book about George Bush and it started as a biography of George W. Bush and the further he got into his research... And this is considered one of the most researched books like he did more research for this book than anybody that's ever written about bush has um but he got into His time in the air guard he got into his connection with skull and bones. He got although lightly he got into his cocaine arrest, he got into Their connections with the Saudis The fact that the Saudis were kept giving him money to start these failed oiled he's the only fucking guy that couldn't find Oil in Texas you know what I mean? He's not a right now yeah rocket scientist but all of these things and

46:07 The first publishing company, after he had already had a deal and everything pulled the book. They had put it up they'd published it and put copies out and then it was pulled and they... The publishing company burned all the remaining copies of the book A publishing company held a fucking book burning party like that's Fahrenheit 451 shit you know? And then he finally found like a like an independent publisher basically that championed it and they finally published the book, and the guy was found dead of a suicide in his hotel room.

46:46 It very well could have been a suicide because they ruined this guy's fucking life. Yeah, they ruined his life I mean the same thing is killing him really yeah They just credit has come forth before and said uh he regrets ever Jumping into His Illuminati hunt with the back of the dollar bill since you start in the 60s and everything else set it back mission back and George something or other it's a radio show the um coast to coast. The coast to coast got nori george fucking nori for the win i gotta take oh yeah I know who that guy is go do some urinating well entertain follows see you did the uh are you gonna juggle? George Norie yes

47:38 I don't get too much into the urination. It's been lay a pretty mainstream lately I'm like pun DMC baby. Those are tricky puns you're in fire Thank you, thank you. Like upon away freight train. You can't stop me man This is what happens people leave me in charge of this shit Get me to a pottery so we can do this all day doesn't stop like it till the pun All right. This is what we do at work off. We really it's really sad. It's really sad I'm gonna be doing out later tonight as well You know what I'm doing after this Well, you wouldn't yeah. Yeah Amber's got it ambers got a reserve table for us at Hooters. We're gonna go watch the Niner game Keep us abreast of the situation That's the hooters HR department since essentially out her job anyway, correct

48:28 I always thought this is a great slogan for the Hooters HR department would be, Hooter's Human Resources. You have our support. We give a hoot! But they're not talking about it, they're keeping it close to their chest and I really got to admire that. It was weird yesterday I had lunch there in Oceanside yesterday and they had dress-up day so they were like fucking it. I guess once a month they do this thing where they wear a tuxedo to the beach day No, no They would they do a theme every month and this theme was going back to school So all the girls were in these like crazy ridiculous

49:06 Short school girls. I'm like, I don't remember school being like that at all No, no, I mean I'd have gone it was and in the fashion when you're at the table And then the waitress tells her to leave you have to sit there for five more minutes because you have a giant boner Just like school. Well, that's why I always carry a notebook with me to Hooters 30 years and I still don't get it Jordan Maxwell was last on George Norey he That's not bad, right? Back to that shit. No, actually I was listening here And I was like I was gonna want to get back to and I was like who the fuck was supposed to be on George My first rodeo I got this under control yeah

49:50 He stated he regretted the entire thing. He says, I wish I never got involved. He says, I'm broke. I live alone and have lost my marriage and my family doesn't talk to me. One friend that I kind of slum in their living room or whatever... My phone conversations are constantly interrupted. I could hear people listening on me and everything else. and he was very upset about the whole thing and uh... i think george is very surprised that nevertheless so it kind of excess hardening up more than anything to hear that after like a forty years of his life for i think if you come out with any obsession like that i mean

50:31 I'm sure that there's people out there who have studied JFK assassination to death, to the point where it has destroyed their marriage. Sure, well that is what the movie was about. Yeah! That is what the movie was about yeah. It destroyed his marriage searching for JFK and at the end of that JFK film Bruce Willis found out he was dead the whole time. If thats not the same...I am really not entirely sure. Im not good with movies. Thats the one with crop circles. Yeah, crop circles were the guy is dead and his employees take him to the beach Yep, okay. Teen Wolf 2 yeah it's called Top Gun okay let's be serious here grown men serious adults not a child you ever heard of uh Andrew Andrew Bellagio? Andrew uh Basaggio I think his name is Basaggio no i don't think so you've heard Project Pegasus No he says Project Pegasus apparently some black ops project where they kidnapped kids and they

51:25 Sent them into those jump rooms. They said they apparently had the key phrase you can search on Google or YouTube is, Jump Room to Mars." Apparently we have a black ops colonization on Mars and they're studying it through... And they get there not by rocket ship but literally by this jump room that they unlocked, they found again hidden technology ancient technology And apparently it ties in with time travel as well. Like they say, time is just the fourth dimension and they've created a machine that gets you into the fourth dimension so you can kind of move not only forward in time but backwards and alter the speed. There's this guy Andrew Bisagio I think is how he pronounced it and he claims that he was kidnapped and he's one of the people who

52:14 who talks about this. He's one of the whistleblowers apparently, and he is actually in San Diego tomorrow. He has a conference—a four-hour conference about... Oh I saw your posting on Facebook. Yeah yeah yeah! Tomorrow is the time travel and then on Sunday he's doing another four hours all in the jump room tomorrow. Wow If you're interested…I mean I'm fucking going it's 25 bucks which that's also the thing is that capitalism fucks up everything like because you know anything you conspiracy or like are they making too much money off this like that becomes the end-all be all yeah question and that's why capitalism fucks up the net but

52:50 He's going if you want to go either one of you guys Sunday might be a possibility. I can't do Saturday I think it'd be fucking fun and my girlfriend thinks i'm crazy And i'm just like look just because I want to go and spend 25 bucks on this like Not much more than movie ticket, I could go see cowboys and aliens in planet and rise the planet the apes But instead i'm gonna go see Andy Bellagio talk about his fucking jump room right? And then you could jump to those planets of apes and at cowboys and aliens exactly easier Exactly no, I don't blame you gotta know the technology I think if you believe in aliens, like intelligent life that has visited Earth. You almost have to believe in some sort of interdimensional travel because otherwise the fastest thing humans have ever made is the Voyager. It travels something like

53:44 11,000 miles and have some ridiculous shit And they're saying that the closest planet that they've found to earth That's like Earth in the conditions and everything. There's flowing water on it all this stuff It would still take like a hundred thousand years or something to get there at that speed I'm glad you mentioned that because a lot of Alien folks out there don't believe in the traditional flying saucers coming from the sky as if you know you see the whole classic Midwest farm kind of scenario and the idea is that The Flying Saucer comes out of space and into the sky a lot of the other alien people believe these spaceships are actually in the ocean

54:23 and they're coming from there. Right, the Catalinas had a lot of reported sightings and activity in that a lot. Catalina's had some major incidents yeah me and Teresa went out there we camped out there it was badass! They don't have you know very few cars on that island because you don't get there by... It's very surreal what they drive around on golf carts and their streets are like dirt roads Because they're not accessible to the mainland by bridge for anyone who doesn't know that Catalina is off the coast of California. It's about nine it's about 90 minutes by ferry Yeah, I think if I remember right and yeah, it's badass but I didn't I had no idea there were you? Yeah well, I mean like the whole the whole sighting in was at 1940

55:08 I want to say 42 or 44. The major sighting in Los Angeles, what battle the movie Battle of Los Angeles is based off of this site but there was something in Los Angeles that they fired like 10 000 rounds at or something I mean like heavy artillery and there's a there's actually a very famous photo series of lights. I mean it's taken, obviously was at night so you can't see very much but there is a series of lights and they're just firing at it over and over again eventually it just took off Be careful with false flag attacks man because like your golf-a-tonkin, your Reichstadt fire however you pronounce that, your 911

55:47 Alien attacks could be another one. Let's talk about sure about false flags because we kind of we've touched said 9-11 several times We've glossed over and just assumed that we all think something was fucked up about it I'm sure you do I obviously Do I mean Paul? You think something was fucked? I mean at least something was fucked up about there's definitely I do I do believe that there were probably bombs in the basement of the towers right at least and I do because that was demolition style seven men yeah there's a lot of weird shit like that and i do believe that there is information being withheld in it was withheld to in the 9-11 commission report but whether or not I think they are government

56:27 allowed it to happen in order to pursue their agenda in the Middle East. I certainly hope that's not the case, you know what I mean? That's all you can do is hope though really. Yeah! They allowed actual terrorists to carry out their plan at minimum But what I probably am more likely to believe is that those weren't actual terrorist trying to commit an act in response To you know any and our freedoms or whatever the fuck you want to say There's there's apparently quite a bit of evidence that suggests that they were straight-up. Uh, I mean either

57:05 Israeli military is really like black ops fucking hardcore guys that they carried this out and they ejected from the planes or That the planes were actually remote remote controlled Because you know obviously if you got well there were a few of them the alleged hijackers that were found alive years after yeah exactly They were reported as dying on that. You know in yeah, I which is already a huge problem. Like, hey why are you not dead? Right and I want to watch it again but in retrospect it kind of seems nuts that right after 9-11 Michael Moore made Fahrenheit 911 Which was...I mean I thought that was very interesting It was interesting but it's probably his most

57:51 It's more his most out there work. I mean, that's touchy and in it he I need to go back and watch it But the one scene I always remember is that he talks about like the wreckage And how the fuck was one of their passports found in the plane wreckage? Like that's the most bullshit story ever like these The fire is burning entire buildings like the biggest buildings ever is burning it to the ground black boxes gone Yeah Blackboard only black boxes to never be recovered in history They also and a lot of things like loose change. They'll go through and they'll say okay, it was destroyed by fire Let's look at all fires in big buildings throughout history And I'll go through one after another and this has never happened on that very day. I Said to my buddy. I was like I was like that looks that looked I didn't expect that to happen You know Like right then instead of this because instead of being immediately emotional which I guess was the typical? I mean response I would just like

58:50 Immediately was like suspect that something about that is fucking suspect. Well, and I think it's interesting you know a lot of Analysts or whatever you want to you know right made statements about well Not not so much as the collapse of the building but the reasoning behind the terrorists hitting the buildings You know 15 minutes apart Was so that okay we fly the first plane in so that then people start filming and And then they can see that second plane flying, which was I mean interesting. You know it makes sense in when you think about like anybody that thinks about 9-11 now we all saw that everybody has seen that image of the light emitter flying into the building and we associate it with that

59:34 May not have all seen it. There's a great documentary out there Let me back up a little bit cuz 9-11 is the main conspiracy of our decade or generation So much time on it because I feel like it is right It's done to death but because this is the first time we've ever bullshitted about this kind of shit, it's important to hit Yeah We're not gonna analyze we could talk what you know The Pentagon here and at times hours air and all day long And it's really nothing anyone listening probably hasn't heard yeah But I would suggest too those who are butting heads with others about, you know 9-11 truthers versus the debunkers if you want to say them or name callers which is generally a lot of the arguments I find theirs to be. The main argument if you're one of those truthers out there...I would just suggest instead of browbeating every fact from every 9-11 documentary because they're not gonna listen anyway ask them to do this tell him to YouTube the first five minutes of news coverage after the first hour

1:00:33 And if they do that on their own, you don't have to say another thing. If they do that on their own I recommend everyone go find the early footage it's out there And if you really want to see something beyond, because loose change now if you buy the commercial DVD it's edited like crazy. All the actual facts are gone so its a joke I ordered online but big waste of 10 bucks When it was in 06 or 07 whenever it was biggest on YouTube If you didn't see then you missed a good one I have a copy from back then I do recommend checking this out. There's a documentary called September Clues, it's an easy YouTube search, nine parts

1:01:13 And they analyze the footage of that second plane. And it can get a little boring, it's very quiet you have to really stare at everything else but they show you all the different problems they have with editing and all the 17-second glitches that were on the major news networks which are Fox CBN and I think MSNBC or one of them no it was ABC, ABC was the third one They all have a different weird 17 second glitch in a fade right about 17 seconds before that plane hitting and something was definitely weird. Keep in mind, in 2001, TV stations were still doing mostly analog video. That summer I worked for a CBS-NBC News affiliate—we were still editing analog! Digital editing was only in... because I was a telecommunications major you could only get digital editing in some studio if you rent it out at the university at 3am on Thursday

1:01:59 So it would have taken an expert film editor, that's roughly the right time for him to be able to take out a plane and put in—or take out a missile or whatever and put in a plane. That's the right amount of time because there are so many different backgrounds where there is at the same time, whether the sky is wrong. The buildings are not aligned right. So you think that it might be possible that everyone might have seen a missile hit or something else hit and all footage of planes hitting the building was created? At least that second tower footage. I mean again we know there's no Pentagon or Shanksville footage

1:02:37 That is another interesting fact. Well if there was any footage they certainly wouldn't if they had control of it They wouldn't release they would want to be released Another thing that to me, it's the same The same plan they carried out with with bin Laden You know I don't know exactly what I think about bin laden or why it even really matters like It doesn't really matter If it happened the way this or not but the number one thing they do is they immediately get rid of the evidence which? Is and Few years like there was a woman who? Who lived near the buildings and when she her windows got blown out and debris came into her windows And she knew a guy who was an analyst, you know He seems You know low-level scientist or whatever. And he analyzed some of the material that came through a window and it had insane It had a nano thermite it had thermite which is like, you know basically an explosive that burns metal and then that's what its basically if its function is and they found

1:03:52 Like super advanced thermite they called it nano thermite. It's like he said is almost like nanobots that produce thermite and thermate that replicates when it touches fire And it's like something that it took him a while to even figure out what it was bees like this is just some crazy engineered thermite and it always is over time it'll be declassified piece by piece. It's gonna be like Jeff, right? Like everything else tiny chunks they just let it out in piece-by-piece and no one notices...it's all little blurbs and it's all yeah by the way and when that happened that part of it didn't really happen we go yeah whatever there was 10 20 30 years ago when you add it all up and then eventually if you want to add I'm sure 50 years from now people are gonna go hey what the hell but from now until then it'll just be ah ya know we got other problems because

1:04:54 You know, we have work because we have no money. So it's just distraction they distract you with other fears and other threats and other bullshit to get it out of the news I mean It was weird when 9-11 happened. I was working at a hotel in the Bay Area We had we housed the air guard So they were there for their one weekend a month and two weeks a year or whatever. And I had gotten to be pretty good friends with the guy that oversaw this unit, and he had done a lot of weird military shit in his past When 9-11 happened like the plane that was shot down in Pennsylvania... Or you know the passengers took down in Pennsylvania

1:05:41 I was like, oh my god that's crazy that they were able to overtake these terrorists and blah blah blah. And he's like yeah that's not what happened at all he was just like you know we shot that shit down it was headed for the White House. Really? Well yeah because i mean it was headed for the White House right? Was the supposedly direction it was heading in whatever. I mean I don't know why Hershey makes a lot of If you've got But if you've got a plane full of even if it's a plane full of civilians Yeah, you're gonna shoot. You're gonna shoot it down but yeah and no there was that assuming that there was a flame there There wasn't well because when you look at the ground apparently like in some of these documentaries to show the spot on the ground where it apparently hit and it just looks like

1:06:24 it's a whole there is no claim to be but there was no there was no they cleaned all of the wreckage of that pennsylvania crash out and news media was kept hundreds of yards back they were allowed anywhere near the crash site so there is no film footage ever taken uh... at least it's been released The cleanup or the crash site at all so I mean, I don't think that they could make a whole plane disappear. I mean or those passengers are Those never been a plane That's what I think yeah well So the families and the voicemails and everything how you send voicemails from an airplane? You can't get reception on a fuck sure you can yeah Yeah, you can never been able to get receptive well because they tell you to turn your phones off Don't do that

1:07:08 You leave your phone on the whole time. I literally do I literally cuz I'm well since I've had an iPhone I do because I'm playing games, I'm doing shit and even when they tell me to turn it off I'm like, I'm not gonna keep this plane from taking off So I just continue reading or playing my game or whatever but as far as service never a single bar says no services It depends on the altitude to What evidence it's like none really just my instinct kind of says voice-altering technology even even the Jesse Ventura show showed us the You know how they could fake the phone calls was about that specifically. It's not my if for me, it's not so much faking a phone calls But it's about the families that came out and spoke And I mean we're in the media like for them to just completely fake all of that. I think that that's Okay certainly

1:08:11 You know, I haven't heard a lot of stories about people that were on the plane. I've heard a lot of stories of people families whose People died in the buildings No, there were there was a lot of news cut they made a whole fucking movie about the plane that went down in Pennsylvania because well right But I thought that was Oliver that Oliver Stone movie. No no it was World Trade Center, but they had flight 93 or yeah exactly Hollywood film that to me was the biggest piece of propaganda shit Oh completely and I didn't see I don't have to split I like the part where Leslie Nielsen says Don't call me Shirley I like when Samuel L. Jackson says get these motherfucking snakes off this motherfucking plane! But those two scenes are fine. I just thought Nicolas Cage and Steve Buscemi together in the same film was just amazing It's great that they did that, yeah

1:08:59 Fly 93 was I mean, no. I didn't watch it because it exploits the family's pain and grief and everything And I don't know that that was necessarily... It was all faked or whatever but But I definitely think that if there was a plane and it went down, I definitely think we shot it down. I don't think they overtook terrorists that were able to fucking hijack an airplane. That's a suck this red white blue dick. We're all great. It's like hey let's make them the heroes so their families have something nice to remember instead of asking America to accept the fact that we shot down a plane of civilians

1:09:40 Now we're gonna Skype in one of the families from no No, Jesus We don't really hear much I don't believe we hear much about front family is other people on a planes at all as a matter fact There was a memorial A five-year Memorial and o6 at Shanksville for the people on a plane and there was pretty much nobody there. Oh which is really bizarre. I haven't seen that same thing uh it's out there it was definitely the five year, it was the 06 No one showed up. I mean, you don't hear um, i mean the tower stories are endless You'll never hear it We I mean the biggest stories of the bombs at the bottom come from the firefighters and obviously which is going to make sense And your uh that william rodriguez guy The yeah, the uh, the maintenance worker that worked he worked at the towers for like 19 years right when at the point when 9 11 happened and He uh

1:10:39 he saved countless lives which I mean he was awarded medals and shit right yeah a big you know they put him in the press and here's a hero whatever for us to all eat up any he is a hero I mean to you know he ran the fire department Up-and-down stairwells to open doors because he's the only one that had the keys and he pulled people out of them He exited the building with people and went back in three or four times So he is a true hero, but he in his testimony during the 911 Commission report. Uh, he testified that There was an explosion under he was in the North Tower And there was an explosion in the basement

1:11:20 at least a minute before the first plane hit. Common thing I hear all the time? And there was also an explosion in the South building, at the same time before the first plane hit so there was a gap of 15 minutes or so between the two planes So the South Tower if they hadn't and I mean people were blown into walls and like knocked over it I mean There's a dozen witnesses that are like oh yeah There was an explosion People that worked in that section of the building or whatever before the first plane it hit the North Tower let alone anything happening to The South Tower, you know what I mean? So yeah. Yeah It's like how it just becomes a situation. It's like I definitely think there was demolition Explosives set up an advance put that there Was it the terrorists that put that they're just to help along their their project Or or was it the CIA, you know, I was at a black block ops military and so I mean

1:12:18 And is that just... It's impossible to say because between the lies that they've told us and then the disinformation that they put out to throw people off track Right. Like Bob was talking about with false flags and all that, it's impossible to know but I certainly hope that our government wouldn't murder 3,000 people. I hope too but I doubt. Well here is the thing... It's not that I doubt we would murder 3000 people but murdering 3000 Americans No, yeah. I mean, I don't think to the people at the top...I don't think it makes a fucking difference And it's sad that more people have died now in the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan More Americans have died than died on 9-11. That is very tragic Have you ever heard of...you mentioned Golf of Tonkin But if you ever...I'm sure you know but Paul, have you ever heard of Project Northwoods?

1:13:14 I don't think so. It's actually like, I knew of it and i kind of forgot and actually printed out something from their fucking Wikipedia because that's a serious source of information that's an infallible source but no Project Northwoods was It was presented to Kennedy. Well, basically here's what they're thin says operation or soothers was a series of false flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962 The proposals called for the CIA and other operatives to commit acts of terrorism in US cities and elsewhere These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation Which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro? um

1:13:57 One part of the Operation Northwoods was to develop a communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area and other Florida cities, and even in Washington. And basically it was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed by Chairman Whatever Lehman Lent Minser and sent to Sarah the Secretary of Defense and apparently eventually ended up on Kennedy's desk he said no, and he said this is fucking crazy like No fucking way And it's interesting because maybe George Bush would have said sure let's do it Because it's a situation where this has already been proposed. Diddy was directing the CIA This is well anyway and George W I mean excuse me George Herbert Walker Bush Bush senior

1:14:44 most people think that he's in the know whether you're talking about alien conspiracies whether you're talking about nine i mean on the street during the kennedy assassination yet and he was he was uh... with reagan head of the CIA and then vice president for eight years, and then president for four years. And I mean his son was president for a year...I mean he's had a lot of access to the White House but his CIA knowledge, being head of the CIA that guy had have crazy information. Have you seen Kennedy speech the few days before about secret societies? Ladies and gentlemen The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society and we are as a people

1:15:32 inherently and historically opposed to secret societies. I guess the first time, I read 1984 by George Orwell. Which I've read many times over In fact it was funny by the time it was required reading in my school I could teach this portion of class and have read that book four times already But yeah that book completely opened my eyes to the fact we only know what they want us to know The person who controls information and the person who controls flow of money

1:16:24 Rules everything and and everything past that I mean you have to really seek out the truth, and you would have to You know really think for yourself instead of just accepting everything. That's spoon-fed to you by Right mainstream America. You know you remember that? I don't know if you were this whole thing about CNN like faked this They had this scene where they had news cameras on a beach in Iraq and fucking Navy SEALs shit come out from the water, and they look all surprised that. There's news cameras there and then it came out that they had faked the whole thing. And it was just like, holy shit! Like if CNN can go and fake something like that then... And that's what they get caught doing? Right, and that's what they get caught doing so you don't get caught the first time you try something You know what I mean? It doesn't stop you from doing it again So it totally opens your mind to the possibilities of different conspiracies and different truths basically

1:17:23 What got you, Bob? I thought, I just might as well jump. I'm so old that I have that on vinyl! Yeah you know when i was young and hot for teacher... Okay I'll stop. You said it, but I've been waiting for five minutes to make that joke. You held onto it well. I patiently waited for three minutes going this is gonna be great I can't wait to do this. Actually it was a bartender at Winston's in O.B where used to work who um I won't name because would drive him crazy if I did

1:18:03 He would often, every now and then he was slowly throwing a little wacky government thing. A little nugget of truth. And finally one day you get a beer or two with anybody and it's late you're all leaving at 3 in the morning so... Nighttime employees are different than daytime employees. You just know people differently three in the morning So he recommended this documentary and it was no loose change, no Zeitgeist, no Ring of Power. No Alex Jones All good ones to check out It was actually Aaron Russo's Freedom the Fascism I've seen it Was the beginning And that's all about income tax That's mostly income tax and a little Federal Reserve history But it lays a base It definitely lays a base And that was the beginning where everything after that went further Everything after they took us off the gold standard

1:18:51 Really there was no value to our money after right and that's just him the fascism. No, I haven't Definitely check it out. Just smoke a joint watch that sometime good That was the beginning of it all Aaron Russo and he and he's dead now But uh, he is fucking dead on that note Bob's got to get going Yeah, you gotta go to the store every Wednesday Thursday and Sunday The best of San Diego were there And on this Sunday you guys can easily remember this date Sunday September 11th of this year Oh yeah myself a magical day Jesse you can very funny guy and Lauren O'Brien a very funny personality. I like Jesse again, I've seen him around He is one of the greatest greatest guys that I've ever met in comedy he's he is a fucking yeah King among me as my main man Be a far worse human being for not knowing just me for all these years Yeah, so Jesse and Egan I and Lorne O'Brien are gonna be on that Sunday September 11th It's an easy date to remember

1:19:48 Exactly. Yeah, there you go Incidentally a friend of mine has it he wants to he's getting his first tattoo He wants a giant tattoo on his back and he says I want something no Americans ever seen I said good get a tattoo of a plane hitting the Pentagon Now I can't do it on Sundays I just made myself work harder Okay, now you can still do that. You could still do that. Well Paul what do you got coming up? Oh Coming up I got Comedy Store pretty much every Sunday, Wednesday Thursday. I'm gonna be headlining at Buster's on August 31st with a killer lineup And that's a free show so I think Buster's is in... I think it's in Chula Vista National City? It's somewhere near the border. I've done The Room. It's right off the 5 you love it So yeah if you're in the area check these fucking guys out Far Out Brother

1:20:40 Thanks guys, we'll have to do this again. This has been a good one We got a couple layers deep in the onion but there's fucking so many more to go Yeah, do it again. So I mean is appealing man Let's keep doing you going to the comedy store too right now? No, I'm going to Hooters to watch Niners game Right on cool. Thanks guys. Thank you. Thanks ladies gentlemen go wipe yourself off Oh Look at me, look at me Hands in the air like it's good to be alive And I'm a famous rapper Even when the paths are all crooked-y I can tell you about Leif Erikson, I know all the words to De Colores and i'm proud to be an American. Me & my friends are platypus me & my friend made a comic book And guess how long it took? I can do anything that I want cuz look! I can keep rhythm with no metronome No metronome No metronome And I can see your face on the telephone On the telephone

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