Topic: Dulce Base

The controversial claims and death of Phil Schneider are revisited. While Schneider claimed to have lost fingers in a laser battle with aliens at the Dulce underground base, new evidence suggests he may have had the injuries earlier in life. The discussion touches on the suspicious nature of his death and his wife's claims regarding Enochian letters found on physical implants.

The discussion covers Phil Schneider’s claims regarding deep underground military bases (DUMBs) and non-human entities. Reese connects these claims to Jeffrey Epstein’s Zorro Ranch and reports of shape-shifting witnessed by Epstein’s victims. Reese shares a personal anecdote about witnessing a shape-shifting event during a meditation practice, framing reality as a fluid construct of frequency and vibration.

Snyder questions the validity of major UFO tropes like the Dulce mythos and Majestic 12, noting they emerged in the 1980s via a network of intelligence-linked researchers known as "The Aviary." He connects these figures to the SRI remote viewing experiments and the work of Robert Anton Wilson.

Greg Carlwood reviews the December lineup, which included topics like circumcision, vaccines, and synchromysticism. He previews a busy January schedule and encourages listeners to join the Plus membership to hear the second hour of the Redfern interview. The extended segment covers the Dulce base, the 2017 Chicago Owlman sightings, and the current state of UFO disclosure.

Researcher John Rhodes and whistleblower Thomas Costello have alleged the existence of reptilian-inhabited bases beneath National Parks, specifically Dulce, New Mexico. Testimonies describe 7-foot-tall muscular beings with vertical pupils who utilize holographic technology and mind control to interact with humans. Some accounts, such as those from Barry King and the Bases Project, suggest these entities are part of joint military operations involving programmed life forms and remote viewing experiments.

The discussion addresses theories regarding "The Watchers" and their offspring, the Nephilim, who were described as giants due to genetic anomalies. Gerald Clark disputes the idea that the Igigi were "Greys," instead suggesting that Greys are biological chimeras created by the Anunnaki to perform specific tasks in underground bases.

Richard Sauder characterizes the famous stories of the Dulce base in New Mexico as propaganda and disinformation. While he believes secret bases and alien activity exist, he argues that the specific legends surrounding Dulce are likely a "psy-op" designed to mislead the UFO research community.

The guests address rumors of government treaties with extraterrestrials and the existence of underground facilities like the Dulce base. While remaining cautious about speculation, Marden lists various reported entities including Nordics, Tall Whites, and "MyLab" abductions involving human military personnel. Most reports, however, consistently feature greys or insectoids.

The discussion shifts to Andrew Colvin's theory that the UFO alien motif serves as a distraction for manless drone technology. The hosts suggest that stories of secret pacts at Dulce Base or alien craft at Area 51 act as smokescreens for toxic nuclear waste storage and conventional military testing. Local cancer clusters near these bases are cited as evidence of environmental hazards rather than extraterrestrial activity.