Topic: Don Nance

The guest discusses a video of alchemist Don Nance describing "Dragon's Blood," a red oil of gold. Nance suggests that standard Ormus material is meant to prepare the body for a "higher M-state" coming from interstellar dust. This transition is linked to the Hopi prophecy of the Blue Kachina and Paul LaViolette’s predictions of increased energetic interactions.

The host and guest reflect on the importance of exploring consciousness and etheric topics to move beyond just complaining about conspiracies. Shamanjaneer expresses hope that his research helps people understand their reality better. Carlwood mentions his desire to bring on more "rebel academics" and alternative researchers like Don Nance to provide constructive models for the future.

The conversation addresses claims by alchemist Don Nance regarding "Dragon's Blood" or liquid gold and its effects on consciousness. Cotenoir expresses skepticism, emphasizing the alchemical principle of *per ignem* (by fire), which requires claims to be reproducible and testable. He notes that historical prohibitions against alchemy, such as those by Diocletian, were often driven by fears of currency counterfeiting rather than spiritual suppression.

Christine Emmons joins the program to discuss her background as a pharmacist and her transition into alchemy under the mentorship of Don Nance and Barry Carter. She describes the creation of her textbook, "Ormus Modern Day Alchemy," and the development of the Ormus Academy, an online resource designed to preserve and share collection processes for future generations.

Greg Carlwood provides a post-show wrap-up, reflecting on the importance of adding "spirit" back into food and water. He briefly mentions the 2020 election week, noting that the predicted chaos has been relatively tame, and encourages listeners to focus on what they can control rather than the "Big Circus" of mainstream news.

The episode concludes with a summary of the second hour available to Plus members, which includes discussions on translocation, "Dragon's Blood," and ancient cultures. Carlwood pays tribute to the work of Don Nance and features a parody song cover by Lauren Silva to close out the broadcast.

An anecdote describes a man named Jeremy who suffered a five-year mental breakdown after overdosing on an alchemically prepared gold tincture. The guest explains that the man became trapped in the Kabbalistic Sephirah of Tifaret, experiencing a state of "psychological gold" where he believed he was shooting gold from his fingertips. This serves as a warning about the potency of concentrated alchemical sulfur when not balanced as a quintessence.

Greg Carlwood discusses the importance of moving beyond "bitching" about negative systems and toward implementing better models like permaculture. He mentions the difficulty of booking "serious" scientists who may be wary of the show's conspiracy framing. Shamanjaneer concludes by hoping his insights help light the way for listeners to understand their own existential reality.