Chris Emmons | ORMUS, M-State Elements, Alchemy, & You

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00:51 Which means you'll unfortunately never hear my voice again. Rock me like a hurricane, Hireside Chatters! From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and one of the biggest lessons we've learned is just how wrong the materialism paradigm is. The very paradigm that underscores what Western society deems to be valid science and what's to be discarded as silly fantasy yet in almost every slice of the pie-of-life We find that this stuff they've left to the cutting room floor is not only real but some of the most valuable parts

01:56 Consciousness is more than just an illusionary byproduct of the brain. Mental phenomenon, out-of-body experience and remote viewing have been demonstrated more than enough to be accepted. Psychedelics do more than just alter brain chemistry. Tesla had it more right then Edison on electricity. Ether physics explains flying machines modern science says are impossible yet people have been seeing for years Exotic energy sources that could change the world are waiting right outside the materialist box, and of course the right incantation can summon spirits. Well, it seems like most cultures around the globe and throughout history have acknowledged at least some of these things. But inside the arrogance of the Western bubble they act like there's nothing to it all. And of all the branches on the High Strangeness tree one of the most intriguing is a rare blend of art and science known as Alchemy and the strange material called Ormus

02:51 Lucky for us, today's guest Christine Emmons is well-versed in these topics and she wrote the textbook on how to experience it firsthand for yourself called Ormus Modern Day Alchemy The Primer of Ormus Collection Processes which has become the gold standard for orma seekers and the Ormus collecting community. And she's just the one to do it, too. As Chris was a conventional career pharmacist before stumbling down the alchemical Ormus rabbit hole eventually being trained by the best of the best in Don Nance and Barry Carter She also runs an online Ormus store and academy at emmonsessentialessence.com and it is a real treat to have her here The reviver of lost arts and alchemical teacher extraordinaire Chris welcome to The Higher Side

03:36 Greg you've done the best job of opening people's minds to this topic. I try, it's difficult but man this is really awesome. I really appreciate you reaching out to me after hearing that we're interested in alchemy around here probably one of the Phoenix Aurelius episodes i would assume but you shared your book with me and you really just lay it all out there the book really is a very straightforward expose on a multitude of collection processes I think 13 and the best materials to extract it from, which is great because I've yet to see anything Ormus related that spells out the process so clearly and really gives people the tools to get involved themselves. So kudos to you on that!

04:23 Excellent. And I have to say that the voices you don't hear are the colleagues that worked with me on the book, and we were asked to create a book so that the current Ormusa community and the future would have a solid reference. So we worked very hard, Barry Carter, Don Nance others who don't want to be named because because this is such a fringe knowledge that honestly they were happy to help and leave it at that. So you all have the material available to you, and its there for posterity now and in the future, and we are just thrilled that its there for you

05:11 Now, as time evolved and people who agreed with my outreach which is to raise awareness of ARMAs and how it can benefit people animals and plants some of them they understood the technology of the computer which I do not. And that's why Greg it so amazing important that we're talking because you don't see me on YouTube's cuz I've tried and I cannot make them work. So, thank you! Yes! These colleagues came forth and said look you know? You have reached so many people and we want to help you. We're going to help you create anything that you want on

05:59 the web and that is the only reason why you can go online, you can Google Ormus Academy and you will have about 25-28 learning units from the ground up. I love it so much of this show in this alternative realm is just about finally finding a resource that you probably been seeking iraq in your brain about for a long time so it's a beautiful thing that people who are interested in this, can now be plugged right and even still you do say that this is a field in its infancy there's so much more to learn it stephanie largely off the radar for most people and even though we've talked about it before

06:45 Let's give the people some history. Of course, there is probably an ancient component to that history but most people tend to start the story with David Hudson who really rediscovered and popularized this in modern times Is that right? He popularizes the energy we associate with minerals which we call M-state which stands for metaphysical state or meta state And so he's the one that had his finger on the rediscovery that this energy does not act.

07:25 in the parameters of standard physics. And he did that in the 80s, he discovered the energy and anomalous results characteristics of the materials. And today it wouldn't be so upper-browed like what because we understand there's something called quantum physics and quantum physics do not follow the standard physics model. So we've been imprinted with the knowledge that something exists, A-something NX exists beyond our three dimensions and you could say four dimensions if you include time. Mm hmm And so how did David discover this? It was just in his field is that the story

08:15 He was a multi generate he is a multigenerational agricultural with huge tracks of land out in arizona the landing arizona it doesn't have a lot of humus its mainly. like rocks, little rocks so they don't hold water. And so in order to amend his dirt he needed to break down these rocks and so he applied very strong chemicals to the rocks acres and acres and his initial discovery was that something was forming on top of these rocks

08:55 and he wanted to know what that was. It was unexpected, so that's where he followed down the trail and he had a lot of money to do that which we don't have! And he discovered that these materials carried these characteristics of superfluidity, Johansson tunneling, and superconductivity And so it was in the 90s when Barry Carter was first experiencing some anomalous behavior with materials that his friends who were aware of mining, which is completely understood because Barry lived in Baker Oregon and the history of that area is mining.

09:47 I'm not talk to berry about this he was able to look over his friends shoulder. Add an unknowledgeable individual seeing things that were happening with the chemicals and materials that they were working on that shouldn't happen and so about the same time you heard about David Hudson, and went to his lectures. And from there evolved what we call the ORMIS community which follows the parameters that ORMIS contains two important aspects. The first is the micro minerals in it trace minerals in an ion form has a charge

10:33 Once it's broken up, it's very loosely held together in the material we call ormus and once that is broken in the body stomach and the intestines Then the charged mineral can go right through the body And do all the things that are just known about minerals. It also has the other element, which is an energetic element that we call the M state that I mentioned before. That is what buffs up the benefits of the minerals. So marrying those two together, we have called it Ormus. It's like apple okay? You just have to be shown in Apple to know what an apple is

11:24 So using synonyms for Ormus, I'm going to direct everybody's mind to the words pico-minerals. Meaning they're really little. They're not in a stone. They're not in a pebble. They're not in a granule. They're not in a compressed tablet of granules. They are not in a capsule filled with loose granules. They are pico so your body can absorb them Another synonym, original restorative minerals. Well we break that down, original is nothing more than they are basic they come from the beginning. Restorative is that it restores

12:10 biological entities, plant animal people. It does that because we need trace minerals in our body to run our body so it's restorative and they are minerals hence original restorative minerals then and this is even the biggest thing for the audience and for me when I was learning it's what drove me forward Synonym, open source restoration minerals. Open source means that if you do not wish to you do not have to go the store and buy it You can collect it yourself

12:53 And for there, I will direct you to Ormus Academy and the article entitled Collect Ormus Yourself. For learning how to learn the ways to do it yourself! Now when the ormus minerals come from seawater or sea salt, natural sea salt that we've dissolved in distilled water to make seawater. And from that we collect the mineral ions loosely bind them to our binding material and then they form and fall at that point you can call ORMIS Sea Solids So what is ORMIS?

13:38 It's essential mineral nutrients. They're extracted from mineral-rich sources because minerals are everywhere, but it doesn't mean the source that you're grabbing to collect the ormus from is so pregnant with the minerals that a whole bunch drops down and makes it worth your effort." That makes a lot of sense and in the book you write to grasp more fully what m state might represent we need to think from the viewpoint of our universe and i like that but explain that a bit for the people what is there to say about the underlying philosophy that helps to demystify what this stuff really is oh, thats really neat. That gets into this energy that we call M-State and M State if you backtrack it from the very beginning

14:36 There's something in the universe that we could call Source or God, and Source created the archetype of everything that has ever been in the material or ever will be in the material is contained in Sources' archetypes. So as we come out through the universe, the archetypes have been imprinted or downloaded whatever word we can grasp in our mind onto mineral elements. The mineral elements are coming into our world and they're in the world and they've been pre-downloaded with the information

15:27 from source, and they come in from we'll say the above the unseen into the below which is the scene where we see actually now the minerals have created in their own unique archetypal manner the shapes that were imprinted in them, we can call them the platonic shapes, the circle and cube and tetrahedron into form everything that we see in this world in the physical.

16:09 i love it's very intriguing and it seems that something so fundamental and extractable with fairly simple processes could be kept out of the scientific paradigm what do you say when your confronted with someone who is just convinced that there must be nothing to this because otherwise it would be out there we would know about it western science word acknowledge it where you say when confronted with those kind of issues The fact that's a many facets. So you're focused on the fact that we're not being told with a cup of tea? Yeah, more or less well if we were told then they would have to go back to our soils which have been overworked and We all know that

17:01 In the past, most recent past you know taken about prior to 1940 and passed. The agricultural land was allowed to lie follow every three years do nothing but they did let the cows and horses walk on it so as a vegetation decomposed in went back into this oil those elements were added also You go back to the Bible, and I am looking at a quote from Leviticus 25.3 And the Bible says six years thou shalt sow thy field and Six years thou shall prune thy vineyard and gather in the fruit thereof but in the seventh year Shall be a Sabbath of rest unto the land Thou shalt neither sow they feel nor pruned I vineyard

17:52 So, the soil was allowed to remineralize. In modern practice it's gone even less than three years they come and they say we're letting the land rest seasonally not even annually so a farmer might engage in harvesting one crop in late spring and then letting it rest during summer followed another crop in fall I live in an agricultural area, i moved there in 17 and I see not only that but this. I see after they have removed all of the vegetation from the previous harvest And the ground is left smooth and bare! There's nothing living on it to remineralize So this is the basis for y'all to get it

18:49 and so if they address it to you then you can have to go back in won't be allowed to be asleep in the matrix will be forced to think ok And this was, they tried. There has been in 1936 Senator Mr Duncan Fletcher addressed back then that the agricultural soil was lacking he presented to Congress in that year you can look it up Senate document 264 and it addressed the depletion of minerals in the soil

19:27 Nothing was done about his addressing, but he did ask that this be placed in the permanent congressional record so that it would always be there to be seen. Now here's what he wrote because this is important and I don't want it to be just hearsay okay? Quote, Do you know that most of us today are suffering from certain dangerous diet deficiencies which cannot be remedied until the depleted soils from which our foods come are brought into proper mineral balance?

20:03 The alarming fact is that foods, fruits and vegetables and grains now being raised on millions of acres of land that no longer contains enough of certain needed minerals are starving us. No matter how much of them we eat! This talk about minerals is novel and quite startling. In fact, a realization of the importance of minerals in food is so new that the textbooks on nutritional dietetics contain very little about it. Nevertheless, it is something that concerns all of us and the further we delve into it, the more startling it becomes." End quote

20:49 So, 1936! And because the farmers did what they did with the rotation being diminished. The soils weren't getting enough nutrients so what scientists came up with is artificial fertilizers or synthetic fertilizers and that would be your nitrogen potassium and phosphate So instead of the plant getting its trace minerals, the nitrogen forced the plant to make leaves and the potassium forced roots to get a little bigger. And phosphorus forced flowers that create fruit to form

21:40 There was such a backlash in the 40s when this was brought out to the farmers. They were so angry at having to use this that they called it fufu dust, which is what it is! It produces a product that looks like what we would recognize as food from the plant but its devoid of your trace minerals So you're really lucky to hear about this. I'm really happy to be here, to have an opportunity to get you excited about why it's important for you! Yes

22:19 Yes i'm excited as well and the system we have today it doesn't even acknowledge that human soul or spirit so the spirit or solar minerals is definitely off the radar. And of course there is this bit of suppression but also or miss or the m state of minerals, is sort of difficult to even detect with modern equipment right cuz its kind of a theory all yes because It has energies that are too small for us to see or measure. It's not seeable, it doesn't follow our standard physics so it's outside of this realm but interacting with this realm and how we can show that it exists in the Ormus community are things that we see during our collections

23:18 And so you can see something and then you can really see it where you see at three, four levels down. And it shows you that there's something there that shouldn't be we're seeing the characteristics of it that shouldn't be in our standard physics And the things that we've seen, I'll share a couple. Yes It's when you're doing the precipitation of the mineral ions to form their loosely bonds which makes them available to form and fall sometimes, a lot of times, you will see that the precipitate can give it time to settle

24:03 And what you'll see is the precipitate will rise into two distinct layers or more. It won't just stay on the bottom. Sometimes when you're doing a precipitate, this has also occurred to me it was such that I had to call my mentors because I was visually freaking out! I was doing my precipitate from the seawater made from the hydrated sea salt, natural sea salt. And as the precipitate was forming it forms like a white flake It was twinkling and it was sparkling! I took a picture of it...it's in the Ormus Academy In that whole article Learning Unit is in Part 3 Ormus Material and Chemical Behavior Search for M-State Now they explained to me

25:02 that photons of light may be being released as the M-state leaves the above, the firmament and creates the below. What we see in the physical world they actually called it somatids, somatids and they equated it to what happens in humans something that we can now see They can't explain it but we can see They have observed that a flash of light happens when a sperm fertilizes the egg. So energetically something is occurring when the above energy is coming into the below

25:48 So see how I talked about you can see it, I see twinkling and then you can go deeper down either with study or intuitive thinking dwelling on. Or your mentor can explain it to you its always good to have a mentor and that's why I have the Facebook page Ormus A Page for Beginners It is where you can ask questions I and others will jump in to answer your questions, because the whole point is you need to move forward if the topic interests you. And that's part of what my goal is, is to interest you, to get you on the train and then to develop the tracks for that train to get you to good place for your own life walk

26:41 and hence the book, the Facebook page. I have a newsletter to subscribe to Chris Emmons Ormus Newsletter you can subscribe at the website. I put together do-it yourself or miss collection kits yes not that hard but i know myself many times I don't want to wade through things so I could appreciate it when I was told by my You want to call them colleagues in the Ormus community, that I'm doing people a disservice. To teach them to these levels of degrees get them excited show them how to collect it and say now you're on your own until you collect it yourself

27:26 So I said, yeah you got a point there. I will put together do-it-yourself kit with everything that's needed attached to a four part video that shows me doing the process and that's at my YouTube channel called FACICS. The idea is to move that train forward for you now not everybody wants to do that they want to know about it they're excited to know about it They agree with the concept but they just wanna buy it pre-made. I never offered these things until, i think it was 2016 when my colleague said you know Chris you think your helping people and ya are but your really leaving a flat side so i didn't want to agree with that cause i was all about im a philosopher im a teacher

28:18 How could I negate what they said? I dwelled on it and I came back to them and I said, I don't like it. You're right and I will so I put together all my knowledges and I have created what is called discovery in action or miss buried in the ground because during my studies I learned that in the past they knew Things that you bury in the ground are exposed to the energies from the earth coming up in rhythmic cycles and they become different. They become energized, and so I said, I want the best if I'm going to share with people to maintain their excitement, I'm doing that."

29:08 And then I reported that I was doing that. I was getting responses, I got a response from a friend of Ralph's who lives in the home state of Michigan who works with tools and his response was, Ralph, I want you to know that it is known if we sharpen our tool and bury in the ground he didn't say for how long He said, and take out...and I'm sure its in a container He said that the tool will maintain its sharpness longer. Is that cool? So, discovery is kept in the ground for one lunar month at least 28 days

29:54 usually a 30. And in that time, I mean, I live in the country and I'm exposed in the morning to the sounds of birds and at night, the sick aids and the rain and the wind and I'm going wow! I am so excited just for me that I got to learn this. That's why you want to talk with other knowledgeable people who are really working Working their life walk and there like what happens to be a topic you're interested in. Yes very well said and that is something i like about your store interview lot of people who maybe make. Is it Eric teachers and stuff like this and they are always selling products and you're the first story i've seen where your selling the kit with the,

30:45 Material separated and then give instructions on how to combine them trying to make it as easy as possible for people actually see the process and that's what i love about this because when things are somewhat mysterious sometimes they remain vague. And reality is if there's truth to this can, you can be bold with that you can just tell people about straight up and let it speak for itself and of course The question everyone wants to know is like, what can Ormus do for me? People use it topically. They ingest it What sort of effects does it have when they do this? So we have to just in a moment be reminding that these minerals in this form

31:33 is what I'm excited about because they're easily absorbed, because they break easily apart into ions. And so they easily get into the body bioavailable assimilated into the cells. So now once they're in the cells... Now this is a big topic everybody just you know Windshield wash their mind. Okay, because it's not difficult and I so appreciate this time that you're giving me because the reason you can't share about or miss in real-time with people is you only get elevator moments with people and then their mind clicks down and If you want to understand or miss it needs a little longer than that So you've got the minerals in the body

32:25 And you've got the end state of the minerals in the body, which boosts their benefit. Now they're in the body and they're running... You know what people don't realize? In a book that I want to refer to you too, I'm holding it right now. Minerals for The Genetic Code by Charles Walters What we've learned is that your DNA requires, at this point they know 64 trace minerals to form your DNA. Your DNA is integral to everything that happens in your body from the length of your hair to the texture of your skin and it's responsible for all the replications that go on in the body

33:16 And so you need to have integrative DNA, so that they'll replicate cells with integrity. Because we've heard that every seven years you have a new body because the old cells have a life cycle. Every day it's estimated that your body is producing 20 million new cells So if we need trace minerals in our DNA and we've already been there that were bereft in them Then by building up our DNA every process in the body is going to work better The brain your physical body Your mental body and your emotional body which are the four aspects that make up you so The fact that it

34:10 Does this to DNA is the first track that I asked you to wipe the wiper blade on your brain. The second track is our glands, people don't really think much about glands but the glands are what run the body because of the hormones that they produce and there's a plethora of hormones and there's a plethora of glands Looking at glands, I can refer you to a chart that I bought. It's rather large. It's a wall chart. It's called the endocrine gland wall chart by NW Walker and it shows all the glands and how they interplay via their hormones with other glands in order for the glands to work they need trace minerals

35:08 So we don't usually let's just throw them out there the pineal the pituitary The thyroid the thymus the adrenals the pancreas The gonads which would be your ovaries and testes Just small amounts of hormones are released. They travel throughout the body through the blood and And then they work on sites throughout the whole body that all involved within our metabolism, our immune response. Every single function... Our brain activity! They found that the hypothalamus is directly related to the activity of our brain being conscious and awake

35:57 versus being so tired even if you want to watch something or talk to somebody, you don't have it in you. And that's just one of the glands So the glands are needing these trace materials in order to make hormones and the hormones run our body For example let's throw them out a couple because It'll help people I know that they'll say I've heard some of those oh, I haven't heard of that The thyroid hormone which is so important it's called the master gland. I mean, it's the one that affects every cell and every organ in the body. It controls the rate that dying cells are replaced which means it is integral to our metabolism of maintaining ourselves. It can raise and lower your body temperature And then other hormones insulin for sugar

36:51 It signals the liver and the muscle and the fat cells to take in glucose. And if there's too much glucose in the system, then it signals it to be stored as something called glycogen Now this hormone is really important because we use it every day and don't think about it. It's called Glucagon And it controls your blood sugar when your sugars drop too low. So, it's the one that is telling the glycogen to come out of storage and get back in there. And how many people miss breakfast or miss lunch? Where do you think you're getting the primary energy to run things? Is through glucagon telling the glycogen, hey release some of that stored glucose we've been eating here.

37:38 Then there's estrogen, oxytocin, antidiuretic hormone, thyroid stimulating hormone, calcitonin, parathyroid hormone, progesterone, prolactin, testosterone, serotonin cortisol adrenaline growth hormones somatotropin the thymus hormone etc. And I say that just not so you hear a barrage, but remember each one of these hormones came from glands or glands and they required trace minerals to operate functionally. So while you are still alive, you are not being the vibrancy that you could be if you had an adequate amount of trace minerals. And that's the important key

38:34 When I mentioned that effect in the brain of that consciousness versus unconsciousness, the brain is so important because that's where you create your reality. And if your brain is not functioning well then your whole reality is going to diminish because you can see no way to even what you may want to create let alone creating it Yes, this is one of the aspects I found most interesting because some of the things you describe when you started taking it are a little in the gray area like feeling more content all the time knowing that it's all okay. It's easier to stay in the moment these are the things that people meditate for that's what they're trying to cultivate as these types of qualities and

39:23 I copied this down where you say, Now while the presence of Ormus can strengthen the vibrancy of the physical body resulting in better health its presence may also strengthen the physical mind and allow it to expand towards its full potential. In this way the mind can grow and become what is meant to become. I believe that proposition has far reaching ramifications for when a mind as well fed, it grows and the thoughts created may not be the same. The strength of a well-fed mind may allow for new and different thoughts including a new way of looking at events occurring in one's life." And that is just a big wow because

40:04 People maybe don't think about the importance of how everything does start in the mind and we wanna apparently be more connected to our subconscious mind that's our intuition and if you really dial in the strength of your intuition, your whole life can fork in a different direction and people talk about finding their true path and having a hard time with that. Maybe just showing up the inside of your body with this Ormus material can help you stay connected to the unseen parts of ourself? Wow, see you have hit on the mental aspect of ourselves which Ormus feeds both through the bioavailable trace minerals and the M-state

40:49 There are three other parts to each of us and that is the physical, the spiritual and the emotional aspects of ourselves in addition to the mental. And this whole concept of what you've said how the mental is affected is addressed for all four aspects into learning modules of The Academy. The first is called Benefits of Ormus And the second learning module, which is very long is called part one or miss its history and it's a fact. So in the mental as you mentioned you get people have reported and it makes sense because of the minerals and the mind interacting with hormones and the hormones coming from glands on the glands need trace minerals

41:42 Is that the left and right hemispheres of the brain work better together. And so there's better cognitive function and theirs reports all over the place i read one myself, what i was referring to for myself how having greater cognitive function in this is just traditional reports not about or miss Helped people to have better memory and to be able to be more in control of their life versus having to go in a nursing home and when you have a better mind, you get clarity of your thought. And it's clarity of thought that can allow you to move forward I'll give you personal non or miss but Ormus I had a big big

42:30 Surprise in my life and it caused me to have to move unexpected unwanted had to move i'm looking at things from a glass half full but it is still being very hard to make this all happen the new move thirteen hours away. And it was that the point where if i had to write a check, I would put it off because i didn't see the check in my mind. I could only focus on the 50 steps, It was going to take me to make that check okay? My mind was so clouded through the efforts I was doing to recreate myself

43:12 And so therein is a personal example of the extreme of what a lack of mental clarity will do for moving your life forward, i.e., not. Ormus also affects your physical body because your physical body is made up of many things including trace minerals If they were to take a physical body and burn it all down, including the carbon out. It's been determined that four pounds of your body are minerals and a thimble full is trace minerals

43:50 So our body is utilizing this mainly as your DNA, because that DNA has got 64 trace minerals in it. And the DNA is what's making all the cells in your body and it needs to replicate them properly each time or else the cell is lacking in something okay? Then that would be going on and on replicated And so it affects your physical and the big one is health. Your immune system will become stronger, so when people say Ormus will better their health it's not that Ormus is doing the work It's the Ormus minerals and the M state

44:36 that are allowing your body to have more vitality, be more functional and be better able to fight off the disease state. Yes, that's such an important point because I've talked to a lot of people who have this suppressed cancer cure or SCFT and there'll be a laundry list of things that it quote-unquote cures. And people will say well how can it cure so many different random autoimmune diseases? It's like we're not thinking about it the right way! It's just putting you in a state of health where these things aren't problems for you. We're so depleted in these things people are getting all kinds of weird conditions

45:15 Of course the system doesn't mind if we stay sick it would rather sell us random petrochemical pills but what were just talking about is simply, putting into our body the highest form of these fundamental life fuels these trace minerals and its really impressive. Time is really going by here. While we're still in this first hour, I wanted to at least try to relay to people one of the collection methods because I was quite surprised how simple it is. Probably the live oil process is the best place for people to start. Can you break that down a little bit for us? Yes and I'm glad that we have spent really time to develop that M state

46:02 because when you are doing the live oil process, you're dealing with the energy that's within the minerals. The live oil process is the simplest. You'll take a glass container and not plastic and you'll fill it half with the natural sea salt of your choice no colors, no fragrances and the other half with whatever oil you choose, whatever is your favorite. We like grapeseed oil because from David Hudson's time we've been told that the grape seed is a holder of a lot of ormus and so grapeseed oil has always meant a lot to us. Grapeseed oil can be taken internally and as I recall it think it can be used topically too

46:59 I use sesame seed oil, which i know you can take internally but i like it because i use it on my massages. I like the feel of sesame seed oil but any oil and you shake it in the container and you use a plastic top not metal and if you do have a metal you would just take a piece of saran wrap and double it and then put it on the top and then put your metal container so shake shake shake People who are very enrolled in metaphysical aspects will shake it the number of times that a Fibonacci series number would be. 1, 3, 5... They'll shake it 21 times let it sit, shake it 21 times You're getting those salt granules to be in contact with as much oils as possible rather than just sitting there

47:51 and then you let it set. Now folks will say it's ready to use right away, and surely if you throw... This is about like being like oil the ormis form of oil we feel as the M state form in sea salt is an oil form and the M state form in the water molecule is an oil form. So just like oil will dissolve in oil, has an attraction for oil likes-like-likes that M state oil in a salt will diffuse into the oil And so at the end of time period which can be as long as you wish

48:37 you know, the same day and others who believe in three days are waiting 21 days shaking it occasionally. Now you have put more of the M-state energies from the sea salt into the oil and you would use your oil! Don't use it in cooking okay? No heat You'd use it as a finishing oil in food or you would put it on your body And this is not necessarily to ingest i guess you could in just it but it just probably has a funky taste. No finishing oil isn't just double greg a finishing oil would be an oil that you would drizzle on your salad or if u made yourself a hamburger and put it on the plate without the bond,

49:27 You could drizzle some oil on that to make it more juicy instead of let's say gravy Mm-hmm or vegetables vegetables you could drizzle it on vegetables makes sense. Yes, so it is a really simple process to get this high concentration and How long would you say before people tend to notice that they've ingested something their body's probably been depleted of? Is it one use, should you do this every day for a week and then you start to notice. I'm sure there are all kinds of reports but what would people generally say? I need to tell everybody who is watching this because this is meant to be full understanding

50:10 Although it's layered like the live oil process works great. Caveat, you have to be sure in your mind that your sea salt that you're using contains Ormus because in order for the seawater to become sea salt it goes through manufacturing and in these later days because of government regulations, it goes through more manufacturing. So some sea salts they don't have ORMIS

50:46 So in the most optimal of understandings, you would take the sea salt that you bought and you would do the process of dissolving it in some distilled water in the proper ratio. And then doing what's called the wet process because it's done on wet material which is seawater an just being sure that you get a precipitate because if you don't get a precipitate If there is any ormus left in that sea salt, it's way way deep in the crystal if its still there. And so you're spinning your wheels Now that's the sad fact and most people won't tell you that They'll say just do the salt, do the oil and your good to go But Chris Emmons You're no good to yourself if you don't understand The people who just want an elevator speech will be happy with the first thing

51:46 And I don't represent that. I represent what was best said in a book called the Altus Mutus Lieber from 1677, and it was in France that it was published. It's one of the major books on alchemy and it says about alchemy pray read read read read again labor and discover And in its native language, it would be Ora lege, lege, lege relegi labora et inveni. So you know it's going to be what leads you. You know I don't want the surface. I want to understand as far as we're able to understand. Yeah so I'm sharing with you about that second piece

52:42 Yes it's definitely a deep study and i calling of sorts so i appreciate you telling us about it welcome. I am called yes because it made such a difference in me back when i heard in two thousand four, that i immediately that same year opened my house to what I called or miss group gatherings. Call them dogs and just let the word out in people would come we had as many as twenty one people and i would talk about armistice part of it was here were going to do the process and on and on and on because i was a pharmacist i'm into healing i want things to be better for people

53:23 And that just never stopped. Those group gatherings, they never stopped and I moved to a real rural place in the deep south where i've been told by another who saw me wear my crystal necklace she would love to wear her stones but it's frowned upon here so I guess it's no surprise that i have let it be known that i'm available. Every Sunday at one o'clock, anybody who wants to come we will talk or miss and nobody...nobody...nobody! So i got the academy, i got the facebook page, i got the newsletter, i got the book, i'm here to be contacted

54:04 I'm doing everything i can and will continue if even for the one. I've already determined though Greg everybody should know this cause im stating it for myself too, Im gonna stop the activity of actively in 2024 because i will have done this for 20 years and i need to step back first of all so I can develop other areas of my life and second of all to leave real openings for others to come forward and continue as they are in their youth or middle years. Well, i really appreciate that philosophy and im sure there will be a response And I wanted ask you little bit more about some these qualities You mentioned the beginning super fluidity, super conductivity

54:57 But also another one of these is magnetic levitation and that's provocative. These materials will levitate in the presence of magnetic fields, is that right? They have been seen to do that when we are talking about doing collections That levitation that I mentioned that we can see it stratify sometimes One of the reasons they say this could be happening is that the material is responding to the magnetics of the earth because their earth releases Magnetics and so that subtle response is to move away from it We've also seen along the lines. That could be attributed to magnetics Is at when you've done the collection and you let it

55:49 form on the bottom, fall in form. With time you can see the material at times you can see the material creeping up the sides of the container And we can attribute this, we have attributed this in our opinions to superfluidity which is another behavior of a superconductor. Which is a liquid that flows without viscosity and its inner friction area so with superfluity the ORMIS is able to stack up onto itself

56:28 Using the side of the container as a brace Wow and the creeping upward Could also be assigned of this magnetic levitation Combined with superfluidity where it's doing its best to get away Almost like it's alive, and this takes time okay in another case Barry Carter is the flag bearer of the Ormus community from the mid 90s and I think he passed in 2018. He placed a container of the Ormus collected from the wet method underneath his kitchen table and forgot about it. Now he's a single guy, so there was a lot of things in his house that he forgot about like even eating at the kitchen table It became a repository for all of his books and papers So you know, he forgot what was below for years And what he found when he remembered or saw it is that the Ormus had actually stacked

57:31 away on the side that was farthest away from his electric stove, which again electricity is when it's on provides a lot of electromagnetism. So it moved away from it. Wow and as we're bringing it all home tell the people a little bit more about your website in your store you've got the learning kits, you've got topicals, you've got fermented foods and jams what should they know about what they'll find there? Gosh. I'm saying gosh because... It's hard to do promotional stuff after that deep insight Yeah! And yet

58:18 I really want to talk about one more thing if you have time, if not... Sure sure we're not limited on time. I just didn't want to take up too much of yours You know everybody who's listening can always put this on pause or bookmark it and come back okay? I wanna talk to you about something that I think that your going to find interesting and that is the chakra energy centers of the body their response to ORMIS. Okay! And you can further delve into this at Hormuz Academy and look for the learning module, Thermographic Comparison of a Human Body Before and After ORMIZ.

59:00 And in their academy also find the same title where we did it with a bird to have had a bird that loved or missing so. What i had my friend lazaro and he's still my friend and his wife adda, His job entailed him having a thermographic imager, which takes pictures in grayscale or in color of the object or an area and shows you what's happening with the lack of coolness or heat. So because he had that and we got together a lot, he and his wife and I. I feel it was almost every week maybe every other week spent all day sometimes you'd come at noon and they wouldn't leave till three in the morning that's how much fun we had bring his six foot

59:51 tall copper pyramid if anybody got tired went in the pyramid with a pillow revved up came out cook together then we clean the dishes together we sat on the back porch i mean these are the kind of friends you're gonna find an armistice community and so he said let's do you want to do something like we would do experiments So we took me and I set off Ormus, and then he came over with Ada. And he took a picture of my body top middle bottom in the thermographic imager before ormus and after ormus. In each case you're going to be amazed at the images how they popped how they popped and why though okay oh that's cool okay that's the top of the onion

1:00:44 So let's go a little bit lower in the onion. The lower in the onion is that, in Sanskrit the word chakra means wheel and if you think I'm talking down to you because you already know that...I gotta worry about the people who don't know anything like I didn't know anything in 2004 so it was nothing personal These are energy centers that spin they're vortexes of energy and they're called prana Now, the neat thing is that each of these major chakras and they spin and they are interconnected to a gland via nerves. So their energy is feeding the glands! And these glands as we've talked before, they're the ones that are doing all the communications and all the activities in the body's functions

1:01:40 the things like reproduction, immunity, metabolism, behavior. Behavior is part of that being a conscious or not that gland reaches out to so what we experienced was happening in each of what turned out to be because we looked at these are chakra areas So starting from the bottom A lot people like start from the top where the big active one is for our consciousness but At the root, which is also called the base down there in between your legs. That chakra is tied to your gonads or your ovaries and that's the Western philosophy now let's look at the Eastern philosophy

1:02:30 In the eastern philosophy the root chakra is connected to these large. Energy's that cause you to wish to create creative endeavors that you would find enjoyable like, I'm looking at my flowers on the windows, artificial not so they be but i arrange them or my writing that's all creating everything to do with creating somebody might do woodworking somebody might do landscaping around their house just right around their house just a little ribbon. I'm going to put some petunias that's all part of being connected to this 3D living

1:03:15 Because there are people who live but they've not connected to being alive. Maybe they just would rather not be here and so this connection to 3d living in this dimension and creating comes from the root And you'll see that the root expanded then above that You have the sacral sometimes called a navel chakra, and that's tied to the pancreas Now, we already know the pancreas in the Western is tied to glucose. Okay? And insulin and sugars maintenance but in the Eastern having a good sacral or navel energy opening vortex is responsible for expressing emotions getting in touch with how you feel getting in touch with how you feel just feeling

1:04:11 including, because it's so close to the root your sexual feelings. What interests you there? Above that is the solar plexus that's just below the ribs back there and the solar plexus in the Western culture is tied to the adrenals and in the Eastern culture that solar plexus area is associated with What are we surprised the adrenals all around you know get them fired up and you can fight or flight i mean like i'm ready for whatever. So in the eastern, the sacred label is what allows you to express your emotions with confidence with self-confidence. I am going to go look for this job and hope i get it

1:05:09 versus i am ready to go look for this job and there's nobody that i feel is better than me see it as a self confidence factor that actually helps to create your world because you have the self-confidence to do it right. And the next chakra is the heart and in the western philosophies, the heart is connected to the thymus You know we talk about love and in the eastern philosophies they talk about love but everything about life is love. Healing is a form of love because how many times have people I've got relatives who have had cancer and part of their treatment was to actually love their body, love their body and appreciate what it's doing for them because that's part of the body responding

1:06:06 And the heart being open or not being open will affect a person's ability to wish to give whatever, a compliment, a gift. Bring a cake to an outing because they want to...not just an outing but at friend's house or their ability to receive. Oh no, really you shouldn't have... Please! You're embarrassing me please I don't want that necklace. Well no that's part of love too back and forth oh this is gorgeous thank you so much above that is your throat chakra your throat is tied to your thyroid

1:06:47 And in the eastern having an open throat chakra allows you anything to do with speaking. It allows you to speak, it allows you to listen waiting your turn to speak or not to listen ability to have wish to speak Or not depending on the energy i mean there have been times. You know i used to speak a lot it's really amazing maybe it's you but nowadays, i would much rather listen so let's work and the third is in your forehead in the middle in the western philosophies that tied to your pituitary

1:07:38 And in the Eastern philosophies, this is tied to your mental consciousness. So the more mental consciousness you have the more awake and aware you are and therefore you can get more intuitions which in Ormus we call wisdoms that just come out of nowhere You just know it's a sense of knowing Then we get to The Crown which in the Western philosophies is tied to your pineal gland. And in the Eastern philosophies, this is the area that universal energy comes into the body. So it's related to pure consciousness which is sometimes related to what we call The Ultimate Truth It's amazing when you realize The Ultimate Truth What is The Ultimate Truth?

1:08:38 That we are part of everybody and everything. That's the ultimate truth, that's enlightenment! that changes your world and that's coming in from the crown. Now whether or not you're able to receive it, and that's why I say if you take them trace minerals and you get a better acting brain then in my opinion after doing all my own pray-pray read-read-read I believe that you have the brain that a human is supposed to have. And I believe that a humans' brain

1:09:16 It's supposed to be working well, left and right. Fully nutrient filled and able to easily connect to this universal energy! And in this matrix they have you... They really try to have you believe that this is all you got. Okay? So you better go for the gusto because afterwards it's done. That is so not true. We're going to go someplace else we're going to go home And the universal truth right now is that I'm here. And some would say that part of me's here, but the rest of me is back home and then I'm an avatar. That's what they're saying now as a possibility. And I'm connected to all...and I like that because human beings are really social animals okay?

1:10:07 We might be able to handle amount of social news but the point being is we cannot stand being deprived from social. And so you in bay than it i'm part of that was born oh my gosh and part of that too, in some manner that were sharing this experience on his plane shows very very interesting that i believe it was ten minutes after or miss the article will be more clear on that Each one of the heat signature coming from those chakra points just expanded. And when I had gone and I had that aura work done, and they looked at my picture...and i'm nobody right? I pay my $25 dollars, I get my shot, and the lady who's doing the work has been doing it for 15 years at that time she did not work for the company, The Health Shoppe

1:11:06 They just split whatever she brought in so she tells me what it means now I take my picture to go pay my 25 bucks. Not lady by the counter I'm just walking $25 to her She happens to be the owner and she just looked at my picture of my aura and she looked at me And she said do you meditate? I'm sorry, I wish I did and I don't I would like to and I don't I have a missing willpower and I acknowledge that And with that being said, I said no. And she said this is the image of or an image of somebody who meditates so you guys can take that in your brain and bounce that back and forth

1:11:49 Yes, wow I'm glad we saved room for that. I agree We are in a sad state compared to what we're meant to be and so much of the ormus effects do seem synonymous with people who cultivate over a long period of time a deep meditation discipline So i'm not surprised that that lady felt that way but That's really interesting and i'm just so lucky to have had you here to drop all this knowledge on people as we are wrapping up do you wanna say a little more about what they'll find on the website if not the store education materials. Yeah okay so listen i will share i'm really doing my best greg thank you for usually, thank you only reason i contacted you is that

1:12:41 when the webmaster friend said chris you know you gotta get out there and talk and i said no i don't want to feel so responsible for everything that i say because i might say something that turn somebody off or you know i might forget to say something, and i'm responsible in i can't just wanna do it. Any secret service so many people talking stuff isn't right he said if u dont make a presence You know i think that you know way that you let down people and he said here's what i want to do, i want you to consider sending out a little hello im here email. Just do three week and i'm like no music christmas think about it. And i saw while i think about it because i told you all thing about it i'll think about it but i'm not doing it

1:13:36 And so then something happened with you and a podcast in your topic and i thought okay. Okay, I don't want to do this but he said it's right and it makes sense. It's right okay? I'll do it and that's I mean I've contacted you I hope to not contact anybody else Because the pressure to be I mean nobody else is talking like this You're not going to read in a newspaper. You're not gonna read in the magazine And if you go online you're gonna hear all kinds of really

1:14:12 We are off the wall stuff and I know it's more than that. But, I don't think i can do this very often because this actually is painful for me because of the concern that I'm missing something that I could be sharing and I'm not and I'm affecting people's lives without I just put that in there so you guys can understand where i'm coming from and that

1:14:52 If you see me on another, I hope that this is enough to be it where i can just send people to this podcast. Okay? Because learning about Ormus isn't like you have to keep going to school! It's like if you're gonna learn about blue jeans and you start learning about the cottons of twills and this and that After 20 hours of learning about blue genes, you don't have to go back to any studying about blue gene. That's the way I look at ORMIS and the minerals in it and the M-state. You learn it! You know it!

1:15:33 You move forward in your life either interests you or not. You bring it into your life, either you buy it or learn to make it if you want to make it then you're in a position to teach others to make it which case can grass root grow very important and you don't have to keep coming back that's my opinion you get all this is almost like enormous academy right here okay So now you got you in the train or I don't if they don't have you in the train. Thank you for your time whenever you decided to exit on this little visit together and I just hope you have a great life

1:16:14 And if you're on the train, then you're going to move forward with the pray which is just saying hey I really want to learn more of this stuff in a way that i can enjoy and so I'm gonna start reading. Read read read read again labor and discover because bottom line is that all this stuff I've given you as head knowledge okay But guess what? Because I labored, I saw the sparkling in that precipitate as it was forming. And I saw the levitation occur. I saw the pH plateau which we didn't get into there's an anomalous pH plateau when you're doing a process that shouldn't happen. The pH rises

1:17:07 as you're adding the basic material called an alkaline into the seawater, and you would expect it to rise because you're adding a basic material. It gets to a point though it no longer rises You add the basic material And it just plateaus! It stays flat, the pH until you've added enough alkaline that it breaks free of the plateau and then it continues to rise That's not traditional chemistry. You know, if you add food coloring to water and you keep adding food coloring the water gets deeper and deeper and deeper it doesn't have a plateau okay I'm using that as an example so that i can hopefully get to that next onion layer oh my god there's a plateau

1:17:57 There's also a plateau when you're doing the process on the materials that are dry, the ones I mentioned like the ash and the volcanic ash. And you can dry out biologicals. You can dry out a carrot and do a process on it. There is a pH plateau there so that was important to like... Like I didn't want to get into processes because you really need to visually see it or you have to work with a mentor in person, the book helps because I act like a mentor. Okay? In the book you'll notice on every process there's bold like add one cup of sea salt to one gallon of distilled water okay now that's bold that's like i'm there with you but then underneath it is not bolded as to why we're doing it so I tried to act as your mentor

1:18:54 and as the chemist telling you what to do. And so off you go if you're on the train, we can go down the train tracks Ormus Academy 25 to 28 learning modules. Go to the website emmonsessentialessence.com or don't remember that just remember Ormus Academy it actually comes up on Google and it'll take you to the website, It's on the left side Ormus Academy And when you're there, I'm going to suggest something. I've never suggested before. Well, I don't know why conscious awareness wasn't aware when you start reading When You Hit Things That Interest You copy them and paste them onto your own document

1:19:45 and make your own file, okay? Make your own file Ormus Academy. And then divide it the way you like health food benefits whatever and make different folders so that you can carry that with you because honest to God it is an academy okay we wrote it in simple language but it is not elevator speech and we did that for you who are Ormus seekers Then there's the Facebook page Ormus, a page for beginners. Request joining that because see other people are asking questions that maybe you haven't thought of and it'll open up doors into you and then I answer and so do others if others answer like in a venue that's totally like now there's a little inaccuracy there, I'll answer that

1:20:41 It's a way to be a learning module in its own ability as a Facebook page. And so join that and then if somebody asks the question that requires like this is going to be big, I'll do the best I can there and then i'll turn around as I am with do. I'm working on an article about do, now I did mention alchemists were never without do. Do contains the above energies the m3 in them so I'll turn around uh extrapolate that and make that um

1:21:18 article usually they're so meaty the question was originally asked by a seeker obviously it was a good question that'll end up being in the Academy as do probably will but first it will go into what you can subscribe to the Chris Emmons or miss news newsletter and You can subscribe to that at the website and I put all the back issues on a Facebook page okay, so You can go to the Facebook page of the same name, Chris Emmons Ormus News newsletter and read back issues. You have to wade through yeah there's some advertising for stuff but I'm uncomfortable with that but i guess it has to be there because I offer The Ormus and people have to know about it why its good and why I bury it you know all that stuff There is a Ormus modern day alchemy book

1:22:18 You can get that at the website or you can get that at Amazon. And if you get it at Amazon, it's in Kindle I don't like Kindle personally. I believe that the controllers behind everything are doing their best to really push all of the electronic formats because at some point any electronic format can be gone and just not exist okay? After yea many years people won't even know it ever existed So, you know I like that book in a solid form and it's going to give you step by step the 13 ways to collect Ormus. It's also going to tell you some stuff about Ormus and Ormus history how I was affected by Ormus and lots of appendices on the back about the moon collecting from the sea water suggested books to read so that's a very very good resource

1:23:13 As I said, they were right. Okay? That DIY Ormus collection kit is everything in there and another thing i'll teach you because Greg doesn't seem to mind that one of the best Ormus source materials for the wet process is a living sea. There's something about seawater itself that's collected that will always give you ORMUS and always give you a lot of ORMUS. They don't know what it is, but it's there so I have in that kit and what I use in my ORMUS is a live C properly collected properly prepared So that you're not only gonna get ORMUS You can even get some

1:24:09 Going all the way back to the days of David Hudson, he recommended... He made three recommendations for sources and this was one of them. And it's The Great Salt Lake Concentrate. It's concentrated 16-to-1 so it has the waters of The Great Salt Lake as well as the minerals. So when you'll be using it you'll be diluting it 16 to one, all the directions are there. But I want you to be excited because you're gonna have a live sea okay? That's the rarity to begin with and it's a rarity for me even being able to share to you most people don't realize why is alive sea better? Let me try to remember the numbers There was an experiment done on seawater And they found that seawater

1:25:01 The water, not the minerals is different than fresh water. This got to be from my memory. The seawater is composed of molecules of water that are in clumps and that's what we normally think about 75-80%. But then they found out about 20% is seawater in a singlet form, just one molecule of water. And they found that this water because it was just one molecule allowed the top of the sea to be able to undulate with the waves and the wind okay? To stretch in other words and return kind of like rubber okay

1:25:56 instead of actually making cracks, like if you crack a hard-boiled egg. The inside? Well take the shell. You crack the shell and you've made a chism. And then the third part of the seawater which they said was about 6% of those cinglets is this special kind of water that surrounds an ion of mineral in the sea so it is surrounded with water and hence it is not available to form with anything else and fall to the bottom as a sediment. And they clearly said that there is this third type of water that nobody ever knew existed, that is an amazing property of seawater. And so somewhere in there I think if we think we're going

1:26:56 A reason why sea water is different, important than just adding distilled water to your sea salt. And if you can get a living sea that's great! Now that being said I'm not telling you to go to the seashore because that's polluted with organics in order to get a living sea you got to go out where the water is deep and you gotta have your pump And you gotta have your filter usually and under the kitchen filter. And your hose, the first part of the hose has to be the kind of hose that doesn't collapse under pressure because you're gonna be bringing water up from down below to up. I bought that at a marine store

1:27:41 And then you got to send that hose down more than 25 feet. We feel that the top 25 feet contain the most pollutions myself when I did this, I went down 50 feet okay just because you know me by now and so does Ralph and then you want to be 35 feet up from the bottom. You don't want any of those sediments or stuff that's on bottom, and you start sucking in your seawater okay? And then you have to boil your seawater because it does contain living organic material so there you go

1:28:19 These are little important pieces if you're a seeker, but remember you're only here at this point If you're a seeker the other ones got off of the train So way I'm kind of looking at it. Yes And then I have two YouTube channels and there are videos on there on the face six YouTube channel FAC e ICS a phasics unit video you'll see lots of aura pictures that were also used in the Ormus Academy, the article wherever you see aura okay but I grabbed those pictures after putting them on YouTube. The neat thing if you go on YouTube...see i did that so that you would know that I don't lie okay

1:29:05 And on the video, you're gonna see the aura picture before and after. And you're gonna hear the lady who'd been doing it for 15 years at that time interpret the aura picture. Now she's very hard to hear because it wasn't a nice setup like this okay? It was just a little tape recorder so I wore headphones spent a lot of time transposing what she said by rewinding, rewinding, rewinding And, and then I put that in the Ormus, in the Alchromus Academy articles that say Ormous. So you can actually read but anyone anybody to think that I was fooling? That it really came from her so those are on the Phase 6 YouTube. The Phase 6 YouTube you will be interested to know... That's where i show you

1:29:57 the process it's a four part series and it starts with the word discovery. Part one, part two, part three, part four and I also show you how to do the live oil and that one starts with the word basics And yes! I offer Ormus and yes it is excellent because not because I said it was excellent like, you know, we're always here. Because it's made from a live sea Great Salt Lake because it's buried underneath the ground for 30 days because I've seen these things like levitation in it. Seen amazing things and I do as many adjuncts as I've been educated. It's submerged

1:30:46 frequencies of 528 that come out of a Mobius coil. I have a Mobius coil with the transducer in it, which transducer is just something that changes the frequency from one type to another so the frequency comes up as impulses from the CD and then comes and goes through the copper Mobius coil and out in the air So yes now as a pharmacist see I'm trying to think how can I help people? And you can take your Ormus that you collect from any process, but I'm going to say the wet process because it's the most common for us. Creates a great product and we can all do it easily and so I take the Ormus and I dry it to paste and that's something that you can do also But I do it because I want to make people aware of that

1:31:40 So soon I will offer dried to paste Ormus in little one ounce cups as I then have the ability to say you can dry yours to Ormus paste too and you can add it to body lotions that you like. or you can add it to salt scrubs that you like. Some people will take the precipitate paste and they'll put it on their face after they wash their face, this is a man so its after he shaved and then they will put um...their shave oil on top of that and then they'll shave So the idea is how can we move interest in this forward? And

1:32:23 If you make soap, you can add the Ormus paste to your soap recipe. So life's good! I'm a pharmacist compounding from those days...so yeah i start compounding. You'll be able to find Ormus soap there that I have made and then when this paste comes out or when you dry your own to paste, you can add it to your soap I make an emulsified salt scrub. You might not, but I didn't know this until I was in the military. When you get a salt scrub most salt scrubs are sea salt and oil and that's a salt scrub. They feel good but then trying to wash your hands of the oil for me it feels good while i'm doing it and then I have to use a whole bunch of soap to break through that oil

1:33:17 It takes more steps, but you can make an emulsified salt scrub. Which means that your salt scrub is the sea salt it is the oil and It is a soap all at once They're the best ones! You just wet your body And then you put some of this on and you start scrubbing and what's in it becomes a soap. The water that you left on your body thins it more, and when it washes off of you because its a soap It doesn't leave as much of the oily film on the bottom. Like a traditional salt scrub, you better have something to hold onto when you get out of the tub because there's a slick oil film. Is that cool? And then I worked on a process where I added...I made body lotion really good. I mean, I'm Italian and don't really need body lotion but when I do put this body lotion

1:34:15 It's like, yeah this is pretty cool. It feels great and I add Ormus the idea being that you know if i put it up there...I got this body lotion and if you get a ounce of this then you can add....i put this many grams per that much and you can add it to your own body lotion It's all about moving people forward in their own life. Although, in order to do it I'm right they're right...I needed to offer something but others who find what I'm doing a challenge because if you know how to make ormus then you're not going to be a consumer for them and and if you know about the processes and you start asking them questions because you've learned

1:35:00 you're going to point out, you're going to force them to answer things that maybe they don't want to. A big one is so many producers say Ormus Gold and they are collecting it from seawater because seawater has every element! So are they lying or not? You wouldn't even think to ask that if somebody didn't tell you and with christine with her platform she's out there so there are people who are. What is it for us she just doing that so she can sell stuff no i'm not really lucky you really am gonna tell me why is that

1:35:48 I heard about ORMIS, and I was diminished. I had my own health challenge that surgery went really bad. I was laid out for months! And so i happened to hear about ORMIS from Barry Carter in 04 when he spoke on Coast-to-Coast and it made sense to me as a pharmacist It was like I gotta know more Now the reason that you're lucky is because one, first thing I did was have people to my house because i'm a sharer. But two, im a pharmacist and had no children so didn't have children that i had to pick up from school or do all the plethora of things you gotta do with children. I had time and am a pharmacist i had few extra bucks

1:36:37 That book, to make that book at that time was $22,000. Man! It was like I said I'd make that book and I'm making the book. That's it Well it is excellent. It is a master class in itself with 13 different processes the website of course goes even deeper, the products are intriguing people should get a learning kit just to you know get this info and mix it themselves but yes you've really given people all Education and tools they could possibly need. And you've given the platform Greg so you are part of it of assisting the world to be a better place. Well i'm definitely happy to do it and thank you I'm so glad we can do this i really appreciate everything and

1:37:30 It's just been great. Thanks for reaching out, I'm glad i responded and this has been one of my favorite ones in a while so emmonsessentialessence.com is the website. I'm sure people will check it out, I'm sure you'll get a lot more attention on it and I guess we'll call it in but keep doing what you do and take care Chris! Thank You Greg and everybody enjoy every moment enjoy it all yes cheers Yes, people! There we have it. Chris Ammons bringing the heat. It's 2020 don't be scared be prepared replenish your depleted body Hallelujah

1:38:14 This is one of those lucky shows that came to me. I don't know if i would have found Chris on my own, but I've wanted a deeper dive into Ormus for a couple of years now but without Don Nance I didn't really know where to go so this was a serious treat and I'm glad it actually comes at a time when people are trying to get into optimum states of health To me it makes a lot of sense. The spirit in our food and water, and life really is all depleted and if we do a little personal investigating We can not only increase our intake of Ormus but we can also validate the alchemical ways to ourselves And that's a Rubicon I am happy to cross It really is just taking what we already know to be true about the state of the world and everything and adding spirit back into it

1:39:05 I don't know if i would have found that as interesting five years ago as I find it today. But everything about Chris makes me think she's in it for the right reasons, truly just wants to educate people and spread the word and that regular ingestion of Ormus is something I really want to try! I know we got a bit detailed there at the end when it comes to the offerings in the store and that's good because that context might help people decide what they're interested in And I appreciate a person who doesn't really care how long we go. Either we're on the train or not, right? It's probably exciting for her to feel as if a wider audience is finally interested in this niche thing that she has put so much of her life into So let her have it But i hope you are all finding some sort of happy place Obviously election week is here and its really not as crazy as it was forecasted to be Surprise surprise! The news is always amping up everything they can

1:40:05 Of course, if you're following any of the news streams you can see how easy it is for a person to see exactly the reality they want to see. Both sides were already pre-programmed to expect to see the other side stealing the election so depending on who you talk to that is exactly what they've seen But it's still been a bit tame, thankfully. When it comes to the state of things and the level of chaos that some were talking about there being out there we know that can change but as expected The election itself is a big mess everything is very vague and there really was no reason to set up a election show So The Big Circus is doing its own thing And we're talking about M-State matter in super fluidity

1:40:55 The advice has always been to focus on what you can control and limit how much energy you give to the other stuff. So nothing has changed, and Chris is a great guest to have when you're trying to be above it all right? You think she cares about the big circus we got Ormus over here! This episode makes a nice compliment to Phoenix Aurelius and the general THC alchemical interview library we got going on so I'm glad she got in touch with me. In higher side news, we had another joint session show last week and we debuted another parody song that Lauren Silva helped me out with Check out her music if you appreciate what she does for us here She is super talented no doubt

1:41:41 And this was a fun cover to do. Always loved the song, never really heard it with a female voice and the lyrics are applicable to end a couple different types of THC episodes and this one falls in that category I would say If you liked hearing Chris on the show today, do check out her store at emmonsessentialessence.com She was also kind enough to put together some resources for Show Notes which I'll also include with this episode for you to read through This is the real deal folks Nobody's trying to be vague and mysterious They're just trying to give ya the keys of the castle

1:42:19 Of course, if you only heard the first half sign up for Plus already and get the second half of today's show and every show. Today we got into the translocation abilities of Ormus how it penetrates barriers very strange Talked about Don Nance, Dragon's Blood and working with M-State Metals. Ormus in the Garden, Nutrients that Benefit ATP, The Magnet Vortex Water Trap and indications that ancient cultures had discovered these materials a long time ago So a lot of logs added to the ormus fire let's keep it burning bright Big thanks to Chris not only for all her work but for spending that extra 40 minutes with me

1:43:03 Our cup runneth over, people. And if you get some time just put Don Nance into YouTube and watch some of his stuff too. Don Nance's Dragon's Blood is probably the most provocative clip to me it's like five minutes in the plus show it was nice to be able to get some of Don's story from someone who knows him personally as Chris mentioned sadly it seems like his hearing is going in his old age which makes an interview like this one very difficult I definitely get that. But even if we can't interview someone directly, we should still highlight their contributions as an alchemist who has reached that final form as someone who works with metals. Not easy to do they say and a fascinating guy

1:43:49 But that said, take care of you and yours. Take a few steps down the Ormus path and see what happens. Kris is a great teacher and it is her passion in life so help her help you! I'm getting out of here your move alchemical teachers and ormuse seekers...your... When I get down I eat a bunch of corporate junk but that makes me fat we'll make an industry fix it have to face it wrong

1:45:05 Got an addiction to the digital technology Now and then I try to quit, and leave it be But it's too hard to say discipline is no fun I fuck discipline on behalf of the big conspiracy And every one of them