Topic: Deprogramming

Elisa E. describes the process of recovering fragmented memories through internal engagement with her alters. She distinguishes between global conditioning and the concerted effort of MKUltra programming, which she claims removes an individual's choice. The conversation highlights the role of entities in the astral plane that allegedly maintain and install programming remotely during dream time.

The discussion turns to a specific guest named Brian who claimed to have grown up near an area in Michigan called Witch's Hollow where reptilians lived underground. Brian's brother reportedly discovered a hole in the ground containing a dismembered head and later encountered a reptilian guarding the entrance. Brian originally contacted Merkel regarding his work deprogramming victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA).

Mark Phillips taught O'Brien to deprogram herself by using the logic-driven act of writing to bridge the gap between her compartmentalized memories and her conscious mind. This process was reportedly validated by members of the Secret Service and former US Customs head William Von Raab, who were aware of the criminal operations protected by national security. O'Brien's book, Transformation of America, serves as a documented account of this testimony that was officially censored.

Correcting the modern "slave mentality" and lack of personal responsibility may require a multi-generational effort of deprogramming. While individuals can work to reprogram their own brains over decades, a more realistic goal is raising the next generation with less exposure to harmful societal conditioning. The objective is to allow natural mindsets to emerge by reducing the level of external manipulation.

Sevan Bomar joins the program to discuss his work with SecretEnergy.com and the Innerversity, a virtual institute focused on spiritual transformation. The conversation centers on moving away from analyzing the "Puppet Masters" and instead focusing on raising individual consciousness. Bomar emphasizes the importance of deprogramming from societal structures to begin a personal metamorphosis in 2016.

The process of deprogramming is described as a methodical removal of a "virus" from consciousness without destroying the host. Sevan Bomar explains that simply removing a person's religious foundation can leave them demoralized, so it must be replaced with self-empowerment. He emphasizes that the goal is to move away from external deities and toward internal energy realization.

A listener from Massachusetts describes how the podcast assisted in deprogramming them from 18 years of institutional indoctrination. The caller shares an anecdote about tutoring a ten-year-old student and subtly introducing alternative perspectives to pique the child's interest in "dope truth" without being overly fringe.

Elisa addresses the conflicting stories among MKUltra survivors, attributing discrepancies to disinformation and the compartmentalized nature of programming. She emphasizes the need for "rigorous honesty" because alters can sometimes mislead the primary personality. She explains that the deprogramming process is often designed to look like a mental breakdown to discourage survivors from continuing.