Topic: Sky Gods

Greg Carlwood welcomes Chris Knowles back for his sixth appearance on the program to discuss his debut novel, He Will Live Up in the Sky. The introduction highlights Knowles' previous work on NASA rituals, the Secret Sun blog, and his books Our Gods Wear Spandex and The Secret History of Rock & Roll. The conversation begins by framing the novel as a work of "non-fiction fiction" that captures modern conspiracy culture.

The phenomenon of indigenous peoples asking explorers if they "came from the sky" is discussed in the context of ancient astronaut theory and modern cargo cults. Hayes cites the story of John Frum in the South Pacific, where a World War II pilot was deified by locals, as a parallel for how ancient civilizations may have interpreted advanced technology. Christopher Columbus and Francisco Pizarro reportedly encountered similar questions from natives.

Using the analogy of the blind men and the elephant, Jim Marrs explains that different ancient cultures were describing the same extraterrestrial reality. He notes that the Sumerian term "Anunnaki" refers to those who came from the heavens to Earth. Marrs points out that diverse cultures, including the Australian Aborigines and the Dogon tribe, all share legends of sky beings who brought agriculture, law, and language to humanity.

Following a global flood cataclysm, the surviving gods retreated into the background, eventually returning to teach mankind the basics of civilization. The "winners" of these ancient conflicts, identified as the sky gods, wrote the history that vilifies underground or "fallen" deities like Enki or Lucifer. The segment posits that these vilified figures may have actually been acting in humanity's best interest against a controlling elite.