Jim Marrs | Occulted History, Banking Corruption, & The Vast Conspiracy

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01:48 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood And these are The Hireside Chats How's it going Ironside Chatters, drinking a little drink smoking a little smoke getting the wheels thoroughly greased for the weirdness ahead. From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and today is ride through The Hidden History of Banking Atlantis Our Alien Gods and a trip along several random branches of the Conspiria tree with a romp through anomalous aspects

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04:09 Hey everybody, this is Chris from Atlanta Georgia the October Money Bomb winner. Huge thanks to everybody involved with THC and all the supporting listeners very much in shock that I won this as far as what I planned to do with the money I've been saving to get out of a job i'm not so crazy about and this will finally allow me to move on with my life Very excited about that. Um, I'm obviously gonna be a longtime supporter of the show and Definitely going to pick up some conspiracies along the way first show. I saw was the Robert Phoenix Episode that kind of lured me in and I've been digging through the archives ever since really enjoyed Duncan Trussell Lennon honor

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05:40 One can't help but wonder how connected these ancient sky visitors are to the puppet string pullers of today. And lucky for us, today's guest has been dusting for prints and prying up the floorboards longer than I've been alive! He is an investigative journalist and author from Fort Worth Texas who has written several best-selling books on a plethora of my favorite topics from Alien Agenda and the Trillion Dollar Conspiracy to Rise of the Fourth Reich and Our Occulted History. The man who knows the plan, the papa bearer of the conspiracy movement, and one of my favorite researchers on the scene today Jim Mars welcome to THC! Hey Greg it's a pleasure to be with you Well, thanks man. I appreciate that but we both know that the pleasure is mine You are one of the greats and what an awesome time to have you on there is so much madness in this crazy world right now Ebola scares updates to The Georgia Guidestones a standoff with the cops in Ferguson And the tightening of the screws of this global debt-based system of rule Jim It's out of control and it makes it hard to know where to even start Okay

06:38 That's true. Well, as the last of a dying breed I consider myself a generalist and know about a whole lot of things and I don't claim to be an absolute expert in anything but unfortunately that is what we need today because you just pointed out there is so much going on and we're such a highly specialized society now doctors no doctoring lawyers know the legal system uh... you know everybody's into their own little thing in and i think that what's missing is somebody with an overview to try to catch what's going on but yeah I don't know, I think so many things bother me today. The rise of ISIS in the Middle East which

07:21 It turns out it's basically just the old Muslim Brotherhood, which was originally a Nazi-run organization during World War II and then handed over to the British when the Nazis were defeated. Then the British handed it over to the CIA. And so we've been running them ever since. They could not use the term Muslim Brotherhood when we wanted to confront the Russians in Afghanistan back in the 80s, so they changed their name to the Mujahideen or the freedom fighters

07:57 Then they brought their leader, the Saudi Osama bin Laden over to this country under an assumed name and gave him arms ammunition training money sending back to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan but changed the name to Al-Qaeda. But then after 9-11 They decided that wasn't going to fly much anymore, so now it's ISIS. But it's all the same bunch of Arab mercenaries and minions that they can recruit over there and get to do their will. And the whole purpose is just create chaos in Middle East so we continue to have control over oil resources and gas pipelines.

08:48 Not to mention keeping the poppy fields going for the heroin trade in Afghanistan. Prior to our invasion of Afghanistan in the fall of 2001, ostensibly just simply go and try to capture Osama bin Laden it was widely reported particularly in European media that the Taliban, and I don't have a whole lot of good to say about them but they were religious fanatics and they had destroyed 95% of heroin.

09:26 crop over there, the poppy crop. And so we went in there and how hard would it have been to simply go ahead and destroy the other 5%? And then that would've been the end of the major heroin supply in world but instead within a year they were all back into poppy cultivation and I read a piece the other day where this year their having a bumper crop okay so uh... they gotta keep the drugs flowing and of course i don't think anybody's going to be able to prove that leaders in the united states and i'll name the clinton and i'll name the bushes you know uh... nobody really be able to prove that they are behind the drug trade but what is known and well documented

10:16 is that these families like that, and plus many others from the wealthy elite depend on the drug money flowing through the banking industry to make them millions and millions of dollars every year. So although we supposedly have been in a war on drugs since the Nixon years obviously that war is long lost and it's more talk than actual action For example, if there was a true war on drugs and they wanted to stop the illegal drug trade it would be simple enough to go through the banking system identify that drug money is crossing through their put a stop to it. But of course they'll never do that. No, of course not! They gotta get their drug money

11:05 But man, you are so good at identifying and tracking this tangled web of changing names and power centers and following it throughout time. It gets confusing for me but that's the way they like it One other thing thats on the minds a lot listeners I think is probably Ebola Its about what half the emails I get are about And I can't tell if its just a media fear campaign A legitimate concern or part of something bigger What're your thoughts on this whole Ebola thing? Well, I'm kind of on the fence myself. It's either going to be another swine flu or bird flu where there is a whole lot of fear mongering and vaccine sales and public control if it turns out not much of anything or it may turn out to be zombie apocalypse

11:57 It kills off everybody. I guess we'll just have to kind of wait and see, but I will say right off the top that there's too many questions about it. The testing for Ebola is very questionable and it seems to be only by one test and only the CDC has that in life right now. They're the big current Ebola story as how that nurse Hitchcock up in wherever that is New York or wherever is saying she doesn't want to stay in quarantine. And then it turns out that she has been training as a intelligence officer for the CDC, so is this part of some kind of plan? When you consider that obviously when a pandemic breaks out one of the most effective preventatives is to quarantine the areas that are hardest hit by this and yet

12:51 this hadn't been happening, nobody has yet to try to stop the overflow of illegals coming across the southern border and nobody has stopped plane flights coming in from West Africa. In fact it almost seems like at a national government level that they want to spread the disease. You know, we can send 3,000 troops over there. Great! Let them contact it and then bring it back home to their families." A lot of this just doesn't make much sense. I think the key thing here is don't panic because if you stop and think about it more Americans have married a Kardashian than have died from Ebola.

13:40 Yeah, well and also now that we have an Ebola czar I'm sure everything's going to be just fine. Yeah yeah right except the Obola czar has no medical background knows nothing about it except he's a totally political appointee to do the politically correct thing and that worries me I'd rather have somebody with some medical knowledge in there that could tell us what's real and what's not. And then speaking of, let's not forget that there are about a hundred microbiologists who have died under unusual and sometimes suspicious circumstances over the past few years.

14:22 It's almost as though somebody wants to take out anybody who might be really, truly knowledgeable and capable of telling what is real and what is not. Particularly anyone that might be able to come up with a cure! Yeah, right. And another thing that's gotten my attention on this is some researchers are saying that the tribal leaders in Africa are telling them that nobody was sick until the Red Cross showed up and started inspecting people probably with that one special test that the CDC has that you were mentioning but we've seen governments infect their own people before and especially if it's overseas

15:01 Yeah, they've been caught at it. You know you might recall that here a year or two ago one of the large pharmaceutical companies was sending out a vaccine for flu or whatever and somewhere like Bulgaria they decided to test it on some ferrets and they all died so that was...they were able to stop that but yeah in Belgium they found I think Merck which are one big pharmaceutical outfits There's dumping all kinds of pathogens in the water supply. So it's not like they can't or won't do that They've been caught at it before so I think we should be very wary about What's truly going on? I'm with you man, and you know the elite love their rituals What are you making that updated block in the Georgia Guidestones a lot of people have written me about that You think there's a connection possibly to the start of a new plan which could be Ebola could be Isis

15:57 Well and i recall there was a little block that had a fourteen on it so people are saying that they have that was a little tip off to start making their moves in twenty fourteen but, is started to get late me here so i guess you don't have to hurry but then we really know what all of the. uh... all we know is and the most pertinent thing about the georgia guide stones uh... is that uh... number one admonition is they want to try to maintain it human population of five hundred million on this planet well ok but wait a minute

16:35 Right now today we're at about 7.5 billion, so if we're going to reduce the population to 500 million what's supposed to happen to the seven billion of us? You know that is kind of room for concern I think Yeah, that's the scary thing. When you go and study the eugenics movement, and the people behind it, Rockefeller as a Rothschild, the moneyed elite. And then read their own words Prince Philip who says well if there is such thing as reincarnation I want to come back as a deadly virus to help solve overpopulation problem

17:30 You know, or you've got Maxwell Taylor who says yeah in the next century meaning today we gotta reduce the third world population. You got Henry Kissinger saying the same thing so when these self-styled globalists are saying that we need to reduce the population this is self defense! They want us dead So we better start getting on the ball and figure out what's really going on, and who is doing it. Or they're gonna figure out a way just to kill us all!

18:05 Yeah man, they always keep me guessing. But let's jump back in time a little bit you know one of my favorite presentations from Contact In The Desert this year was your presentation for Our Occulted History I loved it! Chock full of interesting facts from the beginning of human history right up to present day and we've talked about the Anunnaki story of the Sumerian tablets quite a bit lately but that seems to be a story that you're putting some stock into right Jim? Well, that's true. I'll tell you what there is just so much to it that is hard to view in any other way other than this is our past that we're just now becoming aware of. You realize that even back in the 50s when I was in school, we basically were kind of taught that Egyptian civilization was the world's first great

18:56 a highly advanced civilization. And well now we know that no, it was preceded by the Sumerian Civilization which obviously the similarities are so striking that obviously the Egyptian Civilization was simply hand-me-down from the Sumerian civilization. In fact, I was somewhat surprised because I was well aware of all these ancient civilizations such as the Assyrians, the Babylonians and the Phoenicians but I always thought these were separate It had grown and we grew up, fell and others came along. But what I found out was actually the history of the world has been just started with one great highly technological civilization that obviously then fell apart because of natural or even

19:53 unnatural conditions, warfares and geophysical changes. And this is what we kind of collectively call Atlantis okay? A prehistorical civilization and of course there's still today lots of arguments over well where was Miss imaginary Atlantis. Was it an island in the Atlantic or was it in the Caribbean, or as some suggested, the South China Sea? Or was it Antarctica before a pole shift and went under ice? And was it the island of Crete? Was it the island of Santorini?

20:30 I think what we have here is a case similar to the story of the blind men and the elephant. The blind man wanted to know about the elephant so he went to the zoo, one grabbed his trunk and said oh the elephants like a hose The other one had his tail and said, no the elephant's like a rope. And the other one was pushing against his side and he said, No, elephants like a wall. Another had his ear and said, No, the elephant is like a fan! So there they were, they got to arguing with eachother over what the elephant was like. They all had a piece of it. They were all telling the truth and I think that's what we have with the arguments over Atlantis, I think they're all telling the truth because I think the evidence points to the fact that there was once a great global

21:20 civilization that fell into ruin and then some of the technology was salvaged, and it rose again in the form of ancient Sumer. Then that began to crumble. We saw the rise of the Egyptians and then followed by the Greeks, Romans and all these others. This leads them to their belief systems which they all... In these ancient civilizations there was a pantheon of what we have come to call their gods although for example in Sumer

22:02 When they referred to the gods, they only referred to them as the Anunnaki which literally means those who came from the heavens and landed on the earth. Which implies flight. and they were able to fly. And in fact, what we find is that that's a common thread through all of the legends of all of the ancient primitive cultures on the world whether it's the Australian Aborigines or the Southwest American Indians or the Hindu Indians of India

22:45 Stone builders of stonehenge and the Dogo tribe in Africa. They all say that in the distant past Beings came from the sky and taught them things, taught them agriculture, taught them law, taught them language. And so obviously this I think tells us what was actually going on and I was equally fascinated to begin to look at these so-called mythological gods and I find that although the language changes which means their names change The characteristics all remain the same which to me indicates that they were talking about living breathing beings at one point. Okay, for example if the Lord over the earth

23:37 okay again charge of the planet corny this marion's was in law according to jim chin she was set according to greeks he was using according to the romans use jupiter but the characteristics that are the same so i think they were actually talking about the same unity uh... the the same thing being for example uh... the goddess of love in samarian and a woman pastor off in the Egyptian Hathor, in the Greek Aphrodite and in the Roman Venus. But they were all women and they were all beautiful and they had the same characteristics so I think that what we are getting and anyone can actually read about this in any encyclopedia

24:22 The problem is it's just listed under Sumerian mythology or Greek mythology. So we tend to brush all that off because we tend to think that these are just stories, but they made up but there's a growing number of scholars who now believe that some of these stories of ancient gods that fly around in the sky and can destroy whole cities with a single weapon, and were behind some of the wars of the gods and men and other kings. That these are actually real flesh-and-blood beings that were here on this planet causing trouble thousands and thousands of years ago

25:03 Yeah, I think that makes sense and it can be very confusing to figure out and the cover-up makes it even harder. And the Anunnaki get pretty bad pretty bad a wrap with gold mining, genetic engineering and human slavery but they can't be all bad because apparently they taught us how to make beer didn't they? They did. Bless them for that! Yeah it was I read once that they had translated some of the ancient Sumerian tablets these are these cuneiform tablets where they used as stylus to press the characters into clay and then they'd bake it And so instead of paper, which can deteriorate and get destroyed, burn up. You know they've got these tablets and about half a million of them still exist but they're in the basements of museums all around the world but in there it tells that the ancient Sumerians had four types of beer and I doubt any one of them was light. Yeah man

26:06 You know of all the aspects of history and we see so many parts of culture court schools rule of law the systems we use they go back. So far even to samaria and egypt in the part that i'm most interested is probably the origins of fractional reserve banking and usury cuz it's, obviously one of their main tools of control today and people are always chalking it up to the Rothschilds, but that was only a few hundred years ago. There's gotta be a much richer history there right? It goes all the way back yes in fact two basic control mechanisms that have been used to control human herd we have been religion and fortified by financial system money if you will and the two actually inseparable

26:52 If you think about it, in the Bible Jesus who they call the Prince of Peace. The one time he actually got really angry and got physical and got violent was when He was whipping up on the money changers, the bankers of His day. And what's interesting is did He go to the bank? To get these guys, no. They were in the temple. The money system was intertwined with the religion and the idea being that God made us priests and he also told us how to tell you how to live and by the way come and deposit your money here."

27:34 So I think we can see that following all the way through. In fact, for thousands of years it was religion that kept everybody in line particularly in Western history you can go back to the depths of the Middle Ages and we find that the Roman Church that basically was THE central power in the world. They even, and the Pope and the church in Rome even told the kings and queens what to do because they loaned them money, they kept their money, AND all of the royal

28:12 royalty needed that church support to support the idea that they were uh... ordained by god to be rulers okay so and we see with all kinds of wars for example the albigenian crusade that swept through europe and wiped out the cathar religion this was not a secular This was a church army. We've got the Crusades that may be continuing today where you had the Christians against the Muslims, and so it's always been religion that has created such problems

28:59 Although today, at least the religions of Christianity and Hinduism and Judaism pay lip service. Now there's been millions of people killed in the name of these religions but they pay lip service to the idea of love your fellow man and treat your fellow man as you would want to be treated, you know? As opposed to the Muslim religion which quite blatantly says cut off the head if anybody doesn't believe in the way that you do. So I think we can see that we still have a problem with religion, but today the main control mechanism has proven to be financial. It's the golden rule. Whoever has the gold makes the rules."

29:48 When you analyze the history of it, I think there's a big part of your presentation was on that and it is just so fascinating because this area of Mesopotamia called Khazaria is where it all started with usury and interest. That's really the fuel that makes money funnel up right? That's exactly right. I was just reading today about this control through money is still going on, starting in 2008 and picking up speed in 2009-2010 on up we had this qualitative easing that was called and basically what it was they took tax money

30:28 and uh... tried to prop up all of the huge banks in fact something like seven hundred billion dollars uh... went to these banks including many foreign commercial bank so all the money that was supposed to stimulate the economy ended up going into the big banks And since the 2008 financial crisis, the four largest US banks and that would be the Bank of America, Citigroup, JP Morgan and Wells Fargo saw their total deposits increase by over a trillion dollars.

31:04 Thanks to the taxpayers that would pump $288 billion into these banks from the qualitative easing III, and these banks are using this money to invest in a stock market on margin. Well, this drove up the bubble which made a lot of Americans think that the U.S. economy was getting stronger even while their standard living was deteriorating. It's absolutely amazing. And so instead of spreading this money out in the form of loans to the middle class and to the average person, that big banks used all this tax money to invest in the stock market. It's the thing that caused them a problem in the first place. It is really amazing but you have to understand I guess JPMorgan himself was quoted as saying

32:02 Gold and silver are money. Everything else is credit, and this is true. Most people don't realize that we've kind of been taught and have the idea somehow that when you go put your money in the bank, then the bank turns around and loans it to somebody else's interest, and they keep the interest using your money But, you know they say in exchange for that and for them getting to make money off your money. They provide you with a safe deposit place to keep your funds and that's probably true but the reality of it is when you put money in a bank they just take that money and then can loan out $10 for every one dollar they have

32:50 This is called fractional banking where they only have to keep a fraction of the total money on hand in case everybody should suddenly want to draw their money out. Instead, they pay it by hand and again it's not just only used for making loans but mostly used for investing things. So when you put money in a bank or particularly when you get a bank card for example, we tend to have the idea that they pull money out of their pocket and put it into your account. And so if you go down and buy a bunch of clothes and buy a car whatever and charge it up that somehow you're borrowing money from them but really is not the case what they do is just debit your account okay?

33:35 And they create money out of thin air. Actually, it's not even money. They create debt is what it is. And so here are some paperwork they've done and nobody has added anything and yet you're expected to pay it all back plus interest. If you don't then come take your physical property home or start It's really an incredible system. And fortunately, more and more people are waking up to it but not nearly enough. Right! Yeah it is a fascinating thing that's almost alchemy building something out of nothing building extreme wealth out of nothing really Exactly well you know let me put this way lets say you have $100 Greg

34:21 And I come to you and say, hey give me all your money. I'll keep it safe for you Are you going to give it to me? Probably not But if I build a big building of steel and glass and put the big sign on it says bank And that's a great give me your hundred dollars You know, I'll keep it safe for you and you go okay Well, I get your other dollars at that point I have an asset because i've got a hundred dollars that other than having to begin with but i don't keep it money out and go out by speculating on stock within or better yet i'd go alone at a hundred dollars too jill okay uh... at twenty percent interest and uh... ok so at that point that had a dollar which was in nasa has now gone out the door there's a debit

35:10 So they offset each other. In other words, your $100 is meaningless. It doesn't mean anything to you because you don't have it and it doesn't mean anything to me because I won't have it. But if Joe honors the commitment there and he repays the hundred dollars plus twenty dollars interest, you know on your money. Do you get the $20? No! The bank gets the 20 dollars so the bank has made twenty dollars for shuffling papers. Yeah and didn't uh...the Knights Templar they built a bit of an empire off doing this kind of securities for banking thing too didn't they?

35:46 That's exactly right. In fact, you could probably credit the Knights Templars with the world's first credit card situation. If you were in England and decided that you wanted to go on a religious pilgrimage through Jerusalem, if you're going to pass through a lot of different countries some are friendly and some aren't so friendly And so you'd really be concerned about trying to lug huge bagfuls of gold, coin all that distance and through all those countries. So what you do is you go to the Knights Temple and deposit your goal there they would give you a script for it in a roll of parchment or whatever

36:30 You take that along and then all along through these various countries, if you need money you go to the temples and then redeem for however much money you needed. Then they would deduct that from your deposit. uh... so it was essentially like a credit card and um... but yet if you're really steady closely to find that the night's tempers didn't probably been originate with this concept but they picked it up from the archives in firmly uh... the scrolls in the text that they were able to get hold of when they conquered

37:15 Jerusalem and tunneled under what used to be the old Temple of Solomon. And Solomon had carried all, had collected all this stuff and it's Solomon's treasure following the exodus of the Hebrews from ancient Egypt. So they brought the secrets out of ancient Egypt and as I've already mentioned, the secrets of ancient Egypt were simply the hand-me-downs secrets Sumerians, all right? Who attributed this knowledge of banking and of making beer and law and written language etc. to the Anunnaki those who came from the heavens

38:03 Yeah, that ancient alien source could be why we have banks today. Why we have so many debt slaves on the planet Exactly because they figured out how to control a human Whoever whoever controls the pocketbook controls And see a lot of people don't really understand this because they think it's greedy old oil companies They think it's greedy old insurance companies what I understand is all of those these giant corporations are almost all beholding to this handful of major international banks that bankroll them, give them their line of credit and keep them from solving. So whoever controls these central banks controls pretty much everything.

38:49 Right, and that's why we should definitely shine a light on this area. But there is a big dark spot in history for me because we have these original bankers of Mesopotamia who have amassed great wealth and power, then eventually see the power shift to the British Crown, Vatican, Bank of London... Are these the same people with different rappers or did something change? Well, let me just point out that Rothschilds who most people who have actually researched the whole thing pretty well understand is kind of at the top of financial pyramid. claimed to be the descendants of Nimrod, the ancient Sumerian god-king. And all of these so called rulers of today from the Windsors and Royal Family in England and their ancestors which includes the Gore family, Al Gore, includes the Bush family, includes the Chaney family, includes believe it or not

39:50 Barack Hussein Obama, who is a distant relative of Dick Cheney according to Dick Cheney's wife. Okay? So yes! They're all connected! Yeah and bloodlines are obviously so very important to the elite and one fact I jotted down from your presentation is that apparently every presidential election since the first has gone to the candidate with the most British or French royal genes And that-that's pretty crazy Is that true?! It is true. I first got on the mat back in 2000, the selection of 2000 when George

40:28 George W. Bush was running against Al Gore and the Berks period which is a very prestigious genealogical publication in England came out and said that because every American president had always been the one closest in the bloodline to the British Royals, that Bush would take the elect, would be made president because although both he and Gore were related to the Windsors his was the more closer relationship. And sure enough although what is now known beyond dispute is that Gore actually won the election but because of the hanging chads and because

41:12 turmoil and the fact that they stopped recounting the votes in Florida, then they threw the whole thing to Supreme Court which then appointed George W. Bush as President of United States so it turned out that was true! And like I said what blew me away after that happened is we saw a very sudden rise of Barack Obama it's like well at least we are to worry about him being part of this group except then we find out through lynn cheney the chinese wife who is preparing a book on his family that brocco marlowe isn't physically is a cousin appears

41:53 So it's like, holy cow. We can't seem to get away from these people. Right! And it is fascinating to find out that that's the truth but it would make sense if you take the position that the US' independence from Britain was totally manufactured and they just kind of started extracting wealth in secret rather than fighting out on the battlefield which tends to be coming out more and more. You'd think... Of course they have to control leadership too Dr. Miller Right, well it's the same thing I know in researching the Rothschild family one of their most credible and prominent biographers looked into it and found that in the early 1800s

42:31 The Rothschilds sent one of their signs over to North America and he went back and wrote that, ìOh man! North America is so rich in resources. People are hard working and itís an excellent opportunity for business.î And yet this biographer said he was puzzled and couldn't understand why the Rothschilds failed to move into North America. Well, apparently the reality is because they were already coming under suspicion and great deal of criticism because of the way that the Rothschild dynasty was running Europe at the time. Old man Rothschild had sent his sons, and they had made their way into becoming heads of the central banks in England, France, Spain, Austria.

43:29 Germany and during that time all these European nations had constant wars going on with each other which of course did nothing but profit the Rothschilds. And so they were finally coming out a lot of criticism for this, and I think then they realized that there was going to be a lot of...I mean the American colonists had just thrown off into British Empire So, they probably would have put up a fight if they thought the Rothschilds were trying to take over here. What they did was they pulled a stealth move. They operated behind front men and sent their representatives over here and then also tapped local people. One of the local frontmen for the Rothschilds was John D Rockefeller who got his start in oil business

44:22 through money from the Bank of Cleveland, which at that time was a registered Rothschild bank. And of course by 1898 or so John D Rockefeller owned almost virtually the entire petroleum industry in the Western world In fact, it was such a monopoly that in about 1909 the US Supreme Court said yes thatís a monopoly and they broke it up. Instead of having one big huge oil company, Standard Oil,

44:58 They broke it up and created 33 oil companies, which meant that John D. Rockefeller instead of having a controlling interest in one oil company now had a controlling interest in 33 companies and he quickly became the world's first billionaire. From from the Anunnaki to the British crown to John D Rockefeller, it seems like the pattern is always It's way easier to control things in the shadows than it is to just come out there with guns on the field That's right. That's right and they still do the same thing today In Europe today people look to kings and queens The Queen of

45:42 Holland, the Queen of England. But yet in North America here in the United States we supposedly don't have any royalty but our presidents are more and more treated like royalty. When Thomas Jefferson and those guys when they were elected president of the United States they simply walked over to their capital. Today they travel in armored Reinforced black cars surrounded by helicopters, they're treated like royalty. So we do have our royalty today and yet just like the Royals back through history they're not truly in control

46:30 Most people are having a difficulty in understanding is that it doesn't matter whether you vote for a Republican or Democrat, both parties are controlled by the same moneyed interest. In certain areas, physical responsibility and foreign policy doesn't matter who gets in. The window dressing changes. If a Republican gets in he may be against abortion or he may be against same-sex marriage uh... whereas the democrat maybe for all that are so there's some window dressing that changes but as far as fundamental changes to the corporate system before and policy through the physical policy of united states it doesn't change because they're both run by the same bunch

47:25 And yeah, there's definitely real evidence that the true power is behind the curtain. But do you think it at the top of the pyramid? Do they get stops at the international bankers I mean that would make a lot of sense but some researchers are saying that there might be something even non-human that they're listening to Well, I would simply quote from Karen Hughes who for more than 20 years worked as a senior counsel for the World Bank. She has now turned to whistleblower and she says the World Bank is corrupt that it's running countries and then it's all run by private bankers and then she goes further and says some of these people at the top of financial pyramid are not even human

48:09 and she's not the only one paul hilliard the uh... former defense minister in canada says yes there are aliens among us and they have contributed to our technological advancement and he is not the only one doctor edgar mitchell who did six man to walk on the moon, the astronaut. He has confirmed and said that yes we have technology that we gained from alien contact so and then there's just a few of course I don't have to tell you Greg but because your somewhat familiar with the UFO community coming there are a lot of people out there who know and understand all this it just you're not going hear this in the corporate control mainstream media

48:56 Right, right. And I definitely am fascinated by the field of ufology but it still seems like people are always talking about Roswell or the Randlesham Forest incident but i'm not hearing about very many things that have happened in the last decade when you think that people have more cameras than ever and uh... the technology even human technologies probably advanced to a level that we'd think it was alien maybe they've just gotten better at covering their tracks Well, I don't think there's been any real cover-up. Just get on the internet and go to Google or any one of those search engines and copy in UFO. It'll keep you busy for months! You know every day goes by that somebody is posting something on the internet showing up something in the sky flying around and yeah I think he had a really good point there

49:43 Today we are so advanced in our technology and we're so secretive, they keep everything secret today that a lot of what's flying around may actually be us using secret technology but then it's not all us because you can go all the way back. I did the smoking gun in the ufo research is a concern for the spaceship crash and aurora texas which happened in april of eighteen ninety.

50:21 7, okay? Which was like 6 years before the Wright Brothers flew at Kitty Hawk. There was nothing man-made in the air at that time. You know growing up through There was a great argument that a lot of the UFO sightings were simply secret government test craft. That's a valid argument, it could account for a lot of it but like I say in 1897 there were no secret government test crafts and nothing man-made flying in the air

50:57 And yet we've got this account that was published in the Dallas Fort Worth papers and fact a front page story on the Dallas Morning News Which is still in publication That said this silver cigar shaped object crashed in Aurora, Texas and about third fourth paragraph says the pilot Whose remains were badly disfigured but enough were recovered to show he was not an inhabitant of this world whoa so There you have it. Yeah, man It's crazy out there and I love hearing about all the different mysterious things that are found in space sometimes things found on the moon pyramids on Mars a lot of weird stuff out there But right now I really do like the moon material that you had in your presentation Because we kind of take it for granted because we can see it with the naked eye but there's a lot of strange aspects to the Moon aren't there? Well, that's why my book The Alien Agenda

51:53 I refer to the moon as the greatest UFO. It's an unidentified object in the sky. Yeah, we know it is there and now we reportedly have been there and gotten moon rocks but what that did about all that was proved that the moon did not break away from the earth because the moon rocks are many of them were totally different composition than what you find on earth so Then we realized that the moon came from somewhere else. Now picture the earth hanging in space and here comes an object the size of a moon, it passes close by the earth then gets picked up in the Earth's gravity field and pulled back

52:43 I think that's a good question. orbit kind of wobbly going around the earth and yet what we know is that the moon is in a stationary near perfectly circular orbit around the equator of the earth with one side always facing the Earth. and at just the proper distance so that when there is an eclipse of the moon to the sun, it just neatly covers just the corona of the sun.

53:29 You know, how is that possible? The great scientist Isaac Asimov says the moon shouldn't be where it is. But it is! Okay but then Greg this kind of shows us our circular thinking we know there's and we've been told there's no such thing as an alien And we know the moon has been there as far back in written history as we can go so we didn't park it there And we know there's no such thing as aliens, so we just won't discuss it. Let's don't talk about the moon." And I know when I was in school, we were taught the moon was just this airless dead world is just a rock up there No magnetic field, no atmosphere, no water

54:18 and now we know all that's wrong. There is a slight magnetic field, huge sweeps of water have been found sweeping across the surface of the moon there is a small but detectable atmosphere it's just the moon not anything like what we were taught just thirty years ago. Right some people are saying that now Evidence to show it might even be hollow inside and it has some type of creaking sound. It's emitting very weird, right? Yeah I had an opportunity to meet with dr Mitchell and And I asked him I said you know what do you think about the idea that the moon is hollow and

55:02 And right off he just kind of huffed and went, no no the moon's not hollow. But then he continued on and said we do know that the heavier elements are on the outside and the inside seems to be lighter in composition so maybe there are giant caverns inside the moon. You know, well here's a guy that is walking on the moon and big heroic astronaut I don't want to get in his face but I'm thinking wait a minute hollow moon giant caverns inside the moon what's the difference? Exactly! Still talking about hollow areas inside the Moon

55:41 And there's actually a ton of speculation that some moons of other planets in the solar system could be hollow as well, isn't there? That's true. The famous astronomer Carl Sagan early in his career along with some Russian scientists were claiming that because of the characteristics of the moon of Mars Phobos then it was probably an artificial satellite But of course as he gained fame and popularity, and became a darling mouthpiece for the establishment He kind of backed off with all that. Yeah they make you Oh yeah gotta go along with the program

56:20 Well, do you put any stock into the stories? The really weird ones out there about the hollow earth. I mean there's some ancient texts and oral traditions that talk about beings from inside the earth just as beings from the sky what do you make of that yeah well i've made a fairly cursory examination of the story of agartha which is the idea of an inner earth and quite frankly that's still in my home file. My home file is this ever-growing file of information that I study and go, huh?

56:56 There's enough there, there is smoke there but I haven't been able to find the fire. And supposedly if some of the stories in The Hollow Earth and Agartha are true, then One should be able to fly over the North Pole and over the South Pole and find this huge gaping hole that supposedly leads to the inner earth, yet I don't know of anyone who claims to have any kind of documentation to show that's true. Right, I'm kind of with you. I love the stories...I mean I live for The Hawk File! That's where the most interesting stuff lies. Oh yeah! It'll also keep you up at night.

57:42 Well, Jim thanks so much for being here man. You never fail to impress we've been all over the map you do amazing research and You're a bit of fun man I like that you're still willing to have fun with it A lot of people take these things way too seriously and it'll be the death of them well, you know, I've kind of figured out that That what we think of is life is actually kind of a big cosmic joke, you know. And when we depart these meat sacks that we're trapped in and we are free energy beings floating about the universe, we're going to think boy that was really a hoot back there on Earth! Even though at the time I was so concerned about all that stuff. Right

58:31 Man, well I agree with you and I've had a great time here but before we go would you like to tell the people about some upcoming work that you might have out there or where to keep tabs on ya? Well uh... i'm going to be in Dallas for November 21st at the Texas Theater for our showing of John Barber's film on Jim Garrison. He's got the only non-censored account of Jim Garrison's trial in New Orleans from Jim Garrison and it's really worth seeing, and then the next day I'll be at JFK Lancer and then that evening in Arlington at an event by Judith Baker

59:18 So if anybody's in the Dallas area wants to come get immersed in the Kennedy assassination that's going on and then I believe I'm gonna be at the Conscious Life Expo. Oh awesome! Yeah, it's gonna be February 6th through 9th And then I think i'm going to be returning to the Joshua tree contact in the desert again next year. Oh that was such a great conference except for when power went out for a little bit Well, I think one of the problems there was they got a whole lot more people than they were expecting

59:55 I think it put a burden on their system. This year they're trying to, but it's interesting Greg how that thing has grown two years ago when I first went out there and they had their first one they were expecting maybe three or four hundred people and they had like maybe six hundred so that put stress on their system and then there was a few complaints of... So they worked real hard in last year I think they were prepared for about nine hundred people got almost 2,000 So in a way, they're really going and blowing but actually to me that's pretty encouraging because it shows that there is a growing consciousness among the public to these things that we've been talking about.

1:00:39 I know that's true because again two years ago when I went out there it was predominantly a UFO conference and most people there were just concerned about aliens and UFOs. They didn't particularly want to hear much of anything else. But then last year when I was out there, it's like there were so many more people and they were so eager for information. They not only wanted to know about aliens and UFOs but they wanted to know about 9-11, the Kennedy assassination, the TW800, you know, the Flight 370... What's going on with all this stuff? So I think a lot of people are becoming, have heightened consciousness about what's going on and that's good because we all need to start paying attention and contributing. Whatever it is you can. Okay Greg you're doing your radio program, I'm writing some books.

1:01:31 Everybody can do something, even if it's hosting a neighborhood get-together or book club or writing letter to the editor. Or calling your local TV station and holding their feet to the fire and saying hey you're telling me that are the best news in town how come we didn't cover this and this? Just get active! Try to make his world better place. You're here And drink a little while we do it. Oh, yeah Awesome Jim will keep doing what you do this has been a real pleasure take care of yourself out there Hopefully I'll see ya in either LA or maybe at contact again next year and Yeah, just be careful out there man your stone step on any any the wrong toes Avoid the landmines okay? Thanks a lot audio take care

1:02:21 There you have it folks, I loved it. I'm fascinated by the history of banking and how cultures have been manipulated and turned against each other an infiltrated from within and the anomalies in space ancient aliens The pyramids all the fun stuff And Jim has such a good open-minded casual approach to these things but he's so knowledgeable I think we should all be taking the generalist approach and toning down some of the rhetoric about how sure we are about one aspect or another. For my money, there's just too much manipulation for me to be sure about anything! I take the pieces that I find most interesting from this guest or other guests and try to make sense out of it. Sometimes I'm more confused than when I started but…

1:03:02 Maybe that's a personal problem. It is tough because so many of us in the conspiracy community talk about wanting to be free from slave banking and want the embargo on free energy lifted, and we get into this idea of a better future where these needs are provided abundantly for free but then were worried about socialism and we realize that managing a system of distribution is a lot of power and creates a vulnerability for the society But we have to free people from slave wage jobs, we have to give them their lives back. We have to allow technology to handle every job it can and allow ourselves to focus on the experience that we came here for. And I've had the luckiest and greatest year of my life with this show and the guests and fans. My lovely supportive lady and I just got back from the best celebratory trip of my life because it's always that you can't get time away from work or don't have money because your not working

1:03:55 And finally, after many years of working this job and a full-time slave job I've had both. Time and money. So granted we did stay in the car most nights one being near Mt Shasta trying to see something strange in the sky which we never did see but it was still great. Spent some time in Portland Seattle and Vancouver which are all amazing cities that I'd never been before went to Crater Lake which is amazing it's a giant still tranquil lake that people commonly think was formed by a meteor impact because of the name Crater Lake, but that's a misconception. Actually it was a giant volcano that blew itself up completely over 8000 years ago and left a huge huge crater and the snow from the surrounding mountaintops melted into the hole over time And has formed the deepest lake in the states It's amazing! I'd recommend a day there for anyone

1:04:46 Spent some time with some listeners at a few places, namely Lou from Lifted Labs in Portland who specializes in medical marijuana concentrates and I had a really good time there. Thanks again Lou! And all the listeners and subscribers that think I put on a show worthy enough of the $5 tip every month...I'll never take that for granted and always work hard to put on an honest and interesting show that's worth your time and money. And the extended show for this week, I talked to Jim more about the strange sites in America like Rockwall in Rockwall Texas UFOs and free energy a lot deeper look into who the Zionists are and how it all got started and how we went from

1:05:26 Rothschild's Rockefeller. It's an interesting breakdown, a little racy but it's all good natured and we want to understand these people And we talk about police brutality and militarization Also what type of system Jim feels we should try to work towards If we could all get out from under the puppet masters thumb I love it! And I'm sure you did too A few weeks ago I played a song called Old Friend by a listener named Don Paul Moore and it seemed to be pretty well liked. And Don didn't have any links up at the time, now he has a SoundCloud so you can check out Don Paul Moore on Soundcloud and he sent me another song this week This one's called Mr Morgan's War and Don writes that this song is about

1:06:09 JP Morgan's abuse of power and how he helped to sway the American public into involvement in World War I, as reported to Congress a few years after the fact. He bribed and paid off several dozen of the most influential newspaper editors in the country to print wild claims about Germans, although they may not have been Boy Scouts it just goes to show how media can sway folks and also how psychopaths like JPMorgan view us as cattle Amen Don, and I'm glad you're putting out entertainment that touches on that stuff. I think education and art and entertainment humor and music are the best ways we can learn expose Bob our heads and laugh at this big thing And all it entails and i'm so happy to play don's song. I think it fits in with this episode particularly well

1:06:54 And again, you can check out Don Paul more on SoundCloud. Let them know you liked it and also let our guests know when you like their appearances they like to hear that it made an impact and that there's a real audience out there They're not just talking to me That way we can make sure they always want to come back and feel like it was worth their time And with all that said, guys it is great to be back into this routine. A new Money Bomb is starting this month and the Plus show is ripe for your taking so that's it from me this week I've done all I can and its your move shadowy twisters of historical timeline concealers of mysteries of man and corrupt puppet masters of the pyramid of global control Your fucking move

1:07:36 that you have taken. Your psychotic dreams caused the world's humanity to be forsaken with your sick and twisted animal views, the role of God was played by one Jew in your bed soon all are out of the days of freedom no one has their they take our sons and daughters and they feed them

1:08:23 To the CEOs behind boardroom coke The monsters have found ways to hide all day like before They've bribed us out of our perceptions These masters of mass deceptions They've numbed us down with skin and fluff Well I think it's time we If we could crash their two-way mirrors, We'll see those wizards shake in fear. But gone are the days of freedom No one has their own thoughts anymore They take our sons and daughters And they feed them to the CEOs behind the borders

1:09:28 Step up to the well, my friend That you might start to comprehend Still grows sole and young The surface of the water Those with eyes would let them see The violence and brutality Caused by those who need the trusting sheep Down through the house of slaughter The roaches run in spaces when we put the torchlight to their faces Mr. Morgan, the gig is up Go tell your cronies we've had enough Our blood won't lie and your suits no more We can't accept these made-up wars Say man it's time for us To make a stand And bring back the days of freedom

1:11:03 Don't let them buy your thoughts out anymore We'll expose all and we'll defeat em With the truth that we know who and what they are