Xaviant Haze | Banksters, Reptilians, & The Lost Race Of Giants

00:05 Those puppet masters almost surely have a clearly maybe something there. Until you've thoroughly tested every last pulse just to know the less you really do! That's true, Dr. Seuss. Where would we be without TNT? Cause they're lying to us just don't know without TNT The higher side chat show of wooden company

00:43 How's it going, Hiresight Chatters? Drinking a little drink. Smoking a little smoke from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and today we're just trying to reconstruct some truth out of the mountain of lies We have to go on in a whole host of areas In fact It's no secret deception runs deep in the official narratives of history whether we're talking about the possibility of another worldly influence in ancient Egypt suppressed discoveries of giants and early America or the undeniable and oftentimes ironclad influence of the international banksters Because as important as these things are, they never make it into the history books. And if it weren't for guys like today's guest we'd know even less! His name is Xavier Hayes and he has been here once before in the early days of The Hireside Chats talking about his book Aliens In Ancient Egypt The Brotherhood Of The Serpent and The Secrets Of The Nile Civilization

01:31 And it seems like he's been putting the pen to paper quite a bit since then, having released Elvis is Alive! The Complete Conspiracy, Robot Zombies Transhumanism and the Robot Revolution, The Suppressed History of American Banking How Big Banks Fought Jackson Killed Lincoln and Caused the Civil War Ancient Giants Of The Americas Suppressed Evidence In The Hidden History Of A Lost Race and several others. It's a cornucopia of conspiracy goodness, folks. And I can't wait to get into it. Xavier Hayes my man welcome back to the often hazy higher side chats. Thanks for having me back on We're gonna have fun today. It's going to be smoke-filled Odyssey of truth I like it and it's great to have you back man clearly You have been busy since we last talked, I figured we could probably start with the suppressed history of American banking just because there has been a very persistent rumor in the conspiracy world that America never really gained true independence and that below the surface money still flowed right back to the British royal family and the banking bloodlines that

02:35 they work with, some even say it still does. Is that something you would concur with? Yes right now since 1913 basically when the Federal Reserve kind of took over it's pretty much been ironclad of banking Rothschilds and those sort of characters controlling what is going on and there was little hope that Trump would you know actually do something but it seems that you know he was kind of interested in repealing the Glass-Steagall Act which was brought back in by the Clintons and You know, that's pretty important to not make it so much of a centrally controlled banking institution Which it is. I mean they're not even part of the government as its literally private I'm sure a lot of the listeners and notice already So, you know

03:23 To have this control, you know You can kind of find the ordinance of it in 1913 and with the Titanic actually which is kind of funny. Any of the bankers who opposed This Federal Reserve Act got a one-way ticket on the Titanic Good way to get rid of your competition But as far as going back in America and history most are familiar with Andrew Hamilton Alexander? Excuse me, Alexander Hamilton Sorry Alexander Hamilton getting the Rothschild Federal Reserve Central Banking System into play. Jefferson, everybody was opposed to it but he sort of had Washington on his side so that was able to despite the victories in the Revolutionary War that was still in place now what happened

04:10 It was only allowed a certain charter and time period. And when it came time for renewing, it wasn't. And this is why we had the War of 1812 basically which was part two of the American Revolution so you know this war was pretty critical and pretty much forgotten You know you had the British coming down and just kind of you know they sacked Washington burned a White House to the ground basically. A crazy windstorm pretty much saved everyone, it was like a little hurricane that kind of came out of nowhere and allowed time to get rid of them at that certain point location. It's pretty interesting you know very prominent and then you have down there in the Battle of New Orleans with Andrew Jackson

04:54 Now Andrew Jackson, of course has been the subject of a lot of controversy lately. They want to replace him on the $20 bill. It's kind of interesting that he was even on the $20 bill considering that he is pretty much the only person who ever defeated The Rothschilds. So either A little odd nod to him, you know? It's very interesting. Like a mockery Yeah yeah exactly You know so we get down to this point in history where basically I mean We were damaged goods man The French were up top and the British were about to come through the Gulf sack New Orleans capture New Orleans And if they would have got control of that it would have been game over well

05:36 But what we had is Andrew Jackson getting, you know, pirates and free blacks and anyone he could to get together to fight this British, to fight this invasion. And somehow with like 200 men, he was able to have this monumental victory and miraculous victory over thousands of troops basically saved the war and prevented the complete takeover. So this is the Battle of New Orleans, a very important victory even though now New Orleans has fallen victim to the social justice warrior mentality that removing all these statues and ignoring history. It's straight 1984 I mean Orwell was rolling in his grave it's absolutely ridiculous state of affairs now so yeah you have Jackson who prevented this

06:27 you know, this terrible loss. And we had basically the same thing after the war of the original war. You have to kind of, you know... We have debts and all this stuff and so it's basically kinda the same thing where we were in a position that because the charter didn't pass and it led to the war now I have all these debt. So they kinda had no choice but to incur another debt a little bit after this, this war. But this is only a short term sort of thing and this is what allowed Andrew Jackson to start running for president because you know he ran a first term and he was basically defeated but defeated by complete fraud everybody wasn't mad everybody knew it he knew it but just kind of the first little instance where they had the good old boys making sure they're going to win right so

07:22 with that sentiment, he ran again. And this time he won despite everything they could do to think of and make sure he didn't but he won and you know, he basically had to win another term in order to defeat the charter was going to expire literally at the same time as his second term is running out so he had to make sure that was defeated and he did And he survived like three assassination attempts. Yeah, Jackson had balls of steel man. You know and that he had over a hundred duels I believe and that specific duel was over a horse race you know he was He didn't get paid so he was kind of he's one of those guys, you know And he knew that it's true. He didn't realize okay Take the first shot and he took that shot and then he just kind of steadied himself blew the guy away And the funny thing is he's had that ball, you know That little bullet

08:40 It remained in his chest up until he died. There were times he would breathe, you'd hear it whistle. That's pretty badass! So yeah... He was a bad ass. Like the rest of those people in that time, you know they have this sort of background that's not acceptable. You know in a how we look at things but it's history you know Jackson made his fortune on slaves he was poor He was nothing really he had nothing he was like the first prisoner-at-war president I mean family died when he was like 12 and he was in the Revolutionary War basically as a teenager captured by the British

09:20 shine the general's boots so he slashed him across the face. And he basically made his way south with nothing, got enough money to get some slaves and then basically built his little empire. He was a basically one of the first lawyers down there in the South and he was one of the first to have a Mason's Lodge in Tennessee much like Meriwether Lewis and them most those old school dudes were Masons Right, you know it's not a big deal Trump's a mason basically here among other things So it's just that's just kind of part for the course. Of course yeah You know but you know so Jackson he dies and there's not really you know since he defeated the Rothschilds and Put him out of business because he ended all of their

10:11 their central banking schemes, right? Times were really good afterwards as you could imagine they wouldn't. So people weren't really a fan of his after the fact and it was pretty much kind of this way, you know really hard times with poverty and basically up until the Civil War. Yeah man, you definitely have done your homework on that period of American history and banking in general I'm kind of curious how far back you can take the banking system because our first conversation was largely about the Shem Suhor, the Brotherhood of the Serpent in Egypt that you referred to as kinda the first secret society. Apparently they set up the systems of control like banking and the court system in Egyptian society Have you found any continuity to the story of bankster priesthoods running everything even straight back to Egypt?

11:06 Yeah, I mean you see that in ancient Egypt. Talk about that in my book this priest class right whether it was gold or silver or items or objects there is always some sort of control sort of like a religion you know it's a cult even way back then they had their own little cults and their modes of fear basically with where are going to go when you die and all this right? I mean, the whole story of kind of the whole heaven and hell and going to Peter's gates all that kinda comes from ancient Egypt in the weighing of the heart ceremony. So you weigh your heart against a feather and if it's lighter or whatever then you know which is basically true if you study the Indian and the far Eastern stuff

11:48 if you base it on like karma, right? And the laws of the universe. So the laws of universe are the laws, right? And if things are based on karma and if you have the yin and yang, because there's basically just two forces, right? You have a positive and negative. So we're in constant state evolution anyway so if you live in a certain way, a negative way when you do negative things or bad things, you're going to pay for course. You're gonna pay on earth When it's time for you to resurrect or it's time for you to move on to the next room, right? So hopefully of course so you have these concepts like all mixed mass together and over time that kind of get misinterpreted Or repainted to fit certain other ideologies sure You know but the idea of yeah this ancient form of money with control on banking It's you can see in ancient Egypt. You find it in Babylon the Babylonian bankers, right? So you have a

12:45 Even Jesus, right? You know Jesus was He was no fan of the money changer. Right well It is interesting that this Shem Suhor group popped up to install all these control systems and they are represented by the serpent because we have all these rumors of reptilian overlords the classic snake in The Garden Of Eden previous age where the world was ruled by giant reptiles and Snake visions also dominate shamanic journeys. These things do stack up and make you wonder about this persistent cultural reptile theme, don't they? Yeah it's unbelievable I mean you have there's a new book that came out Alien World Order by Kim Lastin which

13:27 He talks a lot about this stuff, the reptilians and everything. And you have the theme of the reptilian basically all over in every ancient culture since kind of the beginning of written history and in pop culture it's there as well so it kinda is strange just like it keeps popping up popping up popping up and then someone like David Icke who helped kinda make this theory popular he gets bashed of course But it's funny how almost everything he was talking about is true. It has been kind of proven true except for this one thing, which I don't know his record is pretty spot on but here's the thing though, this reptilian presence if it isn't an interdimensional form or a 4D form you know the government has known there beyond the spectrums of light understand like so they have known this for a long time

14:25 So if they're just kind of emitting new light forms and new wavelengths or whatever, so who's to say that you know there are alien entities that exist in these forms that we just can't see. Now then you have the physical presence and I've always kinda wondered and made it look like where okay you have a physical presence. I think that might have died down because if there was interdimensional and a physical maybe it would switch to interdimensional over time Or it could be two different things. I mean, it could be just two different reptilian species in general right? It doesn't mean there has to be only one form of reptilian species what if there's many you know so uh You get into The like the Sinclair family With the dinosaur right and Sinclair is a nice Templar Yeah they had the Sinclair gas station which had the dinosaur logo and oftentimes like a dinosaur statue out front

15:23 Yep, yep. Very cool very cool very weird though. Yeah Reptilian of all the things to choose like by that yeah very very strange So you have these things and then you have the interesting The Muppets right with The Muppets but Jim Henson You know he created the show the dinosaur show right that 90 sitcom a ninety-six was huge Very popular not the mama so they have this whole thing Jim Henson helped create right But before that he was negotiating a deal with Disney about the Muppets, his most cherished creation. And he didn't want to give up control so basically told him it's not gonna happen and died like the next day of heart attack. Right? And they got control anyways! So I mean...

16:13 That's how it is. But you look at the connection with these things and he was a Hollywood insider, so he had kind of been maybe throwing out there that what this dinosaur show showing these upright walking talking dinosaur aliens working class dinosaur aliens having the same sort of lives that we're kinda stuck in right? Having to work having to do banking and all those things were contained within that show. So it's very interesting. So you get the Sinclairs and they're the ones who have the Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland, and that chapel has images of corn, crazy things they couldn't have known which was before Columbus' trip right? That whole theory that the Templars came over here before in 1300s or 1400s and if you look at the Rosslyn Chapel you'll find imagery

17:09 of this. And it's strange because later on they come, they have the Sinclair and we know like Lord Byron supposedly had reptilian. So there is the element in the 1400s 1500s 1600s even going up into Victorian era of the physical traits of some reptilians still being around. It wasn't far removed from going hunting the dragons right? you know, the knights going hunting the dragons. What does that mean? Yeah and their dragons are always guarding a lot of wealth...a big pile of gold or some shit! Exactly they kill dragon to get all the treasure yeah man

17:50 That's awesome. I do just love that story about Jim Henson and the dinosaurs, like he knew the truth and wanted to somehow mock them in mainstream media Just all the reptilian connections in general it does make you wonder we even noted last time that The most famous video game ever Mario is about battling a family of crown-wearing reptiles It's not conclusive, but it is very clearly in the cultural memory. And I used to be very into this idea of aliens from another planet coming down and hooking us up with a societal jumpstart for better or worse but now i actually think contacted it might be like shamanic journeying or you know tapping into that astral plane because that was big in those ancient times and I think that type of contact and influence is a bit more likely than a ship landing somewhere on the Giza Plateau. These tools and systems of control could just as easily passed from some reptilian, arconic beings to an elite priesthood like the Shem Suhor by more esoteric means then physical kind of like your suggesting before

18:54 Yeah, I mean the thing is we have so many references and so much historical you know conundrums That deal with this topic. You know i'm just gonna go through I have a list right here Just the pop culture alone with The Reptilians yeah King Koopa from Mario Brothers And he got the sea stacks the sleep stacks from Land of Lost Rowdy Piper you know He was fighting they live and they live right which is They Live is probably one of the greatest movies ever made I mean, the score is fabulous. Everything about it. It's literally like a documentary. It basically explains why John Carpenter was into him and got mad at him for that. And then Roddy Piper was also in Hell Comes to Frogtown. I don't know if anyone remembers that one but its

19:42 Horrible 80s movie. Oh, it's great. It's Super corny He's like one of those might even be one of those trauma movies trauma bill or whatever that did um Toxic Avenger and all that so basically Rowdy Piper has to fight the reptilian You know frog monsters in this post-apocalyptic world is its worth watching This pretty funny And then you got enemy mine right Dennis Quaid Louis Gossett jr Plays the reptilian and they're basically from Draco like fighting you know It's kind of like we're in space in the future fighting these reptilians from Draco. That was a movie in the 80s, there is an interesting movie called Dreamscape with Dennis Quaid again and it's also from the 80s and he has evolved into CIA psychic experiment. He ends up doing battle with like a shape shifting reptilian who is one of the main bad guys in the movie so its very strange you know? And then we have Conan The Barbarian of course, Thulsa Doom.

20:38 I'm pretty sure everyone's kind of familiar with the whole Sadoom. And then you have Babylon 5, there's the Narns in Babylon 5, you got V which is one my favorite series also from the 80s and then if you get into comic books you've got The Amazing Spider-Man with Dr. Kirk Connors who was reptilian right? Yeah, Blizzard Yep! Fantastic Four, Dessauron and X-Men, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles of course just on and on and on. GI Joe, oh my God if you watch episodes of GI Joe it will blow your mind man. Really? It's ridiculous. You should start watching it. It is incredible there. Who was this written for? It was all about the New World Order. It's all about banking and the Illuminati and Colts every kind

21:30 Clue, you know that we know now is already implanted in us basically like we were predictive program this since children You know I didn't even know it. Yeah, GIO's insane Well that is quite a lot. It's definitely definitely a major theme and In terms of that idea that reptilians would have to be physical, I do think the more nuanced understanding is that this cultural memory or this connection between the elite and something reptilian is more magical or ritual based because It makes sense, the connection between occultists and banking has always been fairly strong. It was always this priest class and then we have stories about the Knights Templar and their connection to Baphomet another possible entity that they got banking practices from And I don't know how you really craft a fractional reserve system of creating something out of nothing and get everyone to buy into it without some type of spell because we all seem pretty bound and mesmerized by it

22:29 Oh, I mean it's right there on the dollar bill. So it was right there all the witchcraftery and symbolism yeah It's just there so well think about it. You're only as free as the dollars in your pocket Yeah we were kind of all of us you know And this is why things really don't get done on certain levels That's why it's kind of disappointing to see Trump Just make a 180 on basically everything you know it's like either he's a complete con man or He got in there and realized like, I mean what can you do? You know like the deep like Ron Paul. I mean Ron Paul is a real president let's just be honest man he has been saying this for decades right and he said if you vote all you want the Deep State won't change uh then you don't only have to worry about the Deep because the Deep State really could care less they got off world technologies they've got all these anti-gravity crafts i mean they've

23:23 you know, if they are going to Mars via wormhole technology who knows man? We don't know what they know. You understand like there's our world and there is their world that...the real world that we have no idea about. Well it is interesting how you bring up Trump in that way because I noticed your most recent book is called The Donald Trump Conspiracy How a Billionaire Businessman Challenged The New World Order and those are exactly the kind of questions I had because uh... now that he's staying in nafta expanding the war backtracking on nato is being actually insider dealing i was obviously hated hillary and i was glad when i saw something like the gpb get shot down but are still really my heart of hearts thought of trump as a guy in that one percent class who stayed rich exploiting workers making shady one-sided deals and using

24:12 The same tactics as families like the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Sinclairs that we criticize so heavily. So I'm not really surprised that it's the same old thing because even when Obama was a choice people voted for him because he was the anti-war candidate when you listen to the speeches before he was elected and this is what they did again they didn't want Hillary They wanted the guy who's saying bring the troops home and let's fix this country first but again That's never what we get It's always two puppets one hand Right, and this is why I kind of just put it out as an e-book basically because I got offered a pretty good amount of money to write something on Trump. They wanted me to bash him basically. They're kind of looking for a white women hate Trump or whatever which I could have done easily but…

25:00 You know, it just wasn't truthful to me. I kind of thought the real story was actually what he was saying and he kinda was going against globalism. And we already knew how devastating Hillary Clinton would have been anyway so that was never any option at all. So what Trump was saying before he got elected sounded good. A few things not everything obviously but there were enough things but Of course, when he gets in you know he killed TTP right away. He was off to kind of a good start but then boom! You kind of see it like you said now it's where yeah... It's half and half really because we're in a position where you have the Zionist control system in there. You have a lot of things that he's either fooled everybody into or like you said I mean like yeah you have those concerns because he is from that world you know?

25:57 His daughter doesn't help. Kushner does not help. The people he's surrounded with don't help. I mean, we'll see what happens you know? Well i'm curious how you break down the power pyramid in general it's something i used to ask quite quite a few guests that I kind of got away from because i just see so many competing factions and it's uh real Game of Thrones type situation as far as you know what I see but I'm curious how you break down the power pyramid where do you think the true power lies especially since you have done this history in banking and trying to trace Is there a truth to American independence or not in these types of things, the Rothschilds and their banking industry? When it comes to today like if you try to take the past and extrapolate where it's gone. What do you think the capstone of the power pyramid is in modern times? I think well okay America is you know as the illusion we are still free in sense that

26:58 There's things we can do here that you can't really do anywhere else. Our cages are much nicer than other places around the world. Yeah, pretty much there is opportunity here if you're smart and if If you avoid getting in – because basically everything is about money. I'll throw you in jail for money, it's not because you're doing something wrong or whatever. It's about money and the whole system is fraud that is true as far as the government or whatever. DARPA is the government. DARPA runs – I mean that is America. DARPA runs what we think is a deep state or whatever, but that is the government period. Then you have the banking control, the Federal Reserve System which is Rothschild's and that sort of…

27:46 Anglo-American old world control system with the ability to print money based off of nothing out of thin air and sell it. And that's a, you know, that's sort of a Zionist their part of it but they want more control so there are those fighting going on with them And then you consider that to be a largely is that a Jewish power network or do you consider it to be just? Well, there's a mix because it's like a zio con You know cuz you got the old world neocon that influence but then you have a lot of the Jewish Which it just what it is man. You know and Then you have all the consolidation of the media companies right so when you have like six media companies

28:34 owning 90% or whatever it is and then you look at their parents and this always goes back to the military industrial complex like GE owns Universal blah, blah. And so you can kind of see the chart, follow money So it is in that level There's a lot of Jewish because you cannot deny that You cannot say that Hollywood isn't Jewish, right? Disproportionately Yeah, of course I mean just... It's right there! Read the credits And that doesn't mean You know, that's not a negative thing. That doesn't mean certain that let's go like some conspiracy or whatever. No it's just how it is but you have to be able to look at everything and then be like well wait a minute if there's a National Security Council for president right? There's what 10 people were 12 people or whatever and if 9 out of 12 people are Jewish that might be a little concern, you know Right they might have interests that aren't typically aligned with the average American

29:33 Right, of course. So you know those are concerns that are valid I hear you man i'm with ya! I definitely think they're valid and I just try to think of the Jewish faction of the elite as I would any faction or any secret society because the template seems to be you bring members into the group who form blood oaths to put their interests and the secrecy of their little club above all else And then you go out in the world and you grab up as much power and influence as you can, help each other climb the ladder. Because that's pretty much the game plan of so many little organizations...and it works! So that's how it is. And to criticize or call out a Jewish group shouldn't be any more uncomfortable than calling out a Freemasonic allegiance or something

30:17 Not all white men are Freemasons and not all Jews are going to be members of an elite, Azekenazi, Kabbalistic banking priesthood. But there is something there! There is something to that group or maybe multiple groups of people that are Jewish descent that are involved in banking... That's a slice of pie that seems pretty powerful and pretty ancient based on a lot of researchers Exactly. And you're exactly right, so now we have a situation where through the banking through like their choice of control right? Banking they have control of almost what I mean who isn't under control of IMF you know

31:03 Right that's becomes the game. It's like obviously Hollywood is a valuable tool, but it ain't like banking and So you got to look at which tool is the most useful and try to do? Like the Russian doll thing like which is the bigger one And I really do think banking has to take the cake because everything has to be under that umbrella Everything is I mean in Hollywood is a great tool for mind control into push agendas and propaganda Which is all you see now, which is makes me sick as a filmmaker and artist. I'm sick of it, seeing it you know? So that's important and that's been done since the 50s or whatever you know? Lookout Mountain up in Laurel Canyon that's kind of where all those new technologies and film came from-that's government yeah and that's what they were kinda using all the war propaganda stuff they were creating out there now we all look at Canyon is related to the Laurel Canyon then have the Laurel Canyon conspiracy with David McGowan talked about. Yeah

31:58 that helped introduce these elements through music, but they were all kind of... All these musicians who are basically sons of fathers who were in the military industrial complex and things like Jim Morrison's father was the admiral that got us into a... It was just a false flag of the admiral that got us in the Gulf of Tonkin to Vietnam. And a lot of crazy things going on you know? Like I don't believe in coincidence when it's like that! That's just too weird. Right, you gotta look at those connections and weigh them appropriately Also, I wanted to circle back to that earlier question of did America really win its independence or did something else happen on paper behind closed doors that didn't really match the public perception? Because you have a couple interesting facts when it comes to answering that. For example, you say that the Jay Treaty had us paying the king 600 pounds sterling silver for their loss

32:48 which I really don't know how much that is, but you also note our property taxes. And it does frustrate me that when you own a home, you still have property taxes every year. It's really just like a rental because you cannot get past that and with all the quote unquote debt the country is in, it really should start making more people curious about who owns this land and who really owns the Federal Reserve? The Federal Reserve is owned by private a group of international bankers. I doubt very few Americans are on that board, you know? And we have... Man as much as one wants to say that America is like what we said earlier, you know, we're free to a certain extent and we have this illusion but the truth is these guys they were great men these founding fathers but they were flawed men of course but there are many other times

33:44 So yeah, it's kind of funny when you know I've been reading a lot of Vonnegut recently and Reckless the Champions. And he talked about a great writer very funny. I mean for 1973 this guy is writing this stuff unbelievable so he's talking about Thomas Jefferson one of the greatest free-thinking libertarians writing about all this like the guy who wrote the freaking Constitution or whatever you know Bill of Rights and all this stuff and he was a slave owner. All these men were, but I think that what's lost is they were looking at not their specific time and place they're thinking about in the future you know? They knew obviously all the challenges they were facing. They are barely able to win that war which is a miracle in the first place

34:30 And they still had to deal with the banking control and being hoodwinked by Hamilton, all this. But I think essentially what they were trying to do because these were learned men, they were trying to lay this document for us for future generations to have freedom, to be completely free. We do have a lot more than most... The right to have guns and all of this is very important. No one else has it really literally So there's a lot of things that we are granted and very privileged to have, very lucky to have. But then again, we're also surrounded by bombs and traps and booby traps. And if you're black and you live in the ghetto even worse

35:07 You know, so you got to be smart. You gotta like use your mind and navigate everything and try to figure out how to better yourself and to be good and live a good life that way next life it'll be better for you but the thing is it's true man you never really own anything you know? And I discovered this from my grandfather because you know my grandfather he survived the war was a fireman for like 30 years. Right? Basically typical Americana, right? He bought his house for I think 12 grand in the sixties and owned it completely but he ended up paying property taxes and this and that since he owned it probably about eight to 10 times more than

35:54 it's even worth just over those periods of years. So think about that, man you buy a house 80 grand boom there's no incentive to own your own house if you think about it because you pay it off then what? You got to pay three or four grand five grand depending on where you live every year so I would think that Trump being a businessman or someone who wanting to do good, I would think we can't be the first person to ever think this. How come there's no benefit for owning your house? Right? If that's the so-called American dream... Yeah it is a curious thing man!

36:38 Well, think about this. Like hold on I'm gonna cut you off. I don't mean to cut you off but thinking about this like- Sure You buy a condo like my friend Buster Mathis right? He fought Mike Tyson he got bombed down from Mike Tyson for a couple of rounds they gave him 800 grand which is great who the hell yeah. But just by the time the government and Don King everybody got their cut he had maybe 300 thousand left so he bought a condo in Coconut Grove sweet place, owned it outright. Right? Well then everything kind of dried up and they have these HOA fees like maintenance fees right? Homeowner's association fees. They want to charge you ridiculous amounts of money 500 or a thousand or whatever it is so after a period of not paying for a few months then you suddenly owe them association fees now you owe him two grand or three grand or whatever

37:31 And then all of a sudden, since you didn't pay all those association fees. Guess what? That gives them the excuse to steal your apartment or your condo. Right. So they literally took his place just because he was behind on some... A place that he owned outright and that happens a lot. The whole thing with those big condos why they're all empty is because they want to get you in there and apply you with these HOA fees to the point where eventually you won't be able to afford it and maybe steal it from you. That's how they do it. Same thing with houses You can own your house, but the minute you go a couple months behind on whatever someone will take it from you. Yeah and then you got to pay the master It just never ends! You can't get outside of it. You can't it's impossible Yeah, you just gotta make enough money for yourself that you can break them off and it doesn't bother you that much That's the best you can do. That's all you can do. And that's it anything to avoid going to jail Exactly

38:25 So to switch gears a little bit I also wanted to talk to you about your book on Giants of course every conspiracy show under the Sun has talked about the huge number of giant skeletons and bones found in early America But you write about actual encounters that conquistadors had with living giants Which is talked about far less and is pretty provocative. What can you tell us about this? Oh, man That's my favorite part of The Giants just talking about the Conquistadors You know they have first-hand accounts which are fabulous. And it's true, you know? We always kind of read about anything but these right? But to go into and find like for instance Amerigo Vespucci his account is just incredible he's the one that they named the Americas after right? Spanish Conquistador from Verona so he goes and he's looking at the island of Carrizal which is off the coast of Venezuela and they land

39:24 and they see these big footprints. And they're kind of like, hmmm... These are pretty bigger than normal-bigger than usual footprints and he follows them up and ends up into a little village where you find some very tall women. Now the women in the tribe were-they were bigger than they were. You know, these little conquistadors probably like 5'4", 5'5", whatever. So they're kinda figuring out how can we get these? How can we take a couple of these girls back to this ship with us right When they were formulating this plot in came the giant men of the tribe And they're like, okay because these guys were like nine foot tall so they're really okay. That's uh Let's rethink this So it kind of just backed up slowly and got out of there right? You know, they fired off a couple cannons, you know Scare them when they're going away. So anyways, and he names the carousel the island of Giants Yeah

40:24 Pretty cool. It is, man and I also could be wrong but i think this from your book...I wrote it down as an Americo Vespucci story but there was this one encounter where they pull up on a naked giant just dancing and they take him to Like their leader or whatever and they're trying to communicate and he's trying to figure out where these conquistadors would have came from this giant is, and he points to the sky. He's like you guys come from sky? And it's like what the fuck why would he make that assumption not point like across the ocean perhaps are really anywhere but up in the sky cuz at that time there should be nothing coming from the sky was fabulous brother i think that is a

41:12 either Magellan or... Oh, it is Magellan. It is Magellan. Yeah. Well they go down to the Patagonia and that's okay when they get down to the bottom of Argentina and they get towards Arctic and that's when they're finding these huge ... And we actually have pictures of this because they were sort of the last live giants that they discovered so there are pictures you know of these massive nine ten foot tall Patagonian giants and they were kind of like ape-like pretty much dancing around and throwing dung They weren't too bright. So you have those live giants, but then you have the other giants with mentioning the fact that

41:53 Pointing to the sky now. This is this very interesting because Columbus was asked the same thing Now Columbus actually had a UFO sighting before he reached shores they saw the orbs so he had a UFO sighting that was actually kind of sort of a USO cuz it kind of went into The water and then when he actually met the Tanyo Indians, the first thing they asked him is he was from the sky Yeah, I think this happened to Pizarro too same thing like why are they asking you? If you're from the sky, right? Supposedly nothing's flying around now This is kind of interesting because it relates to the cargo Colt and the John from story. Mm-hmm You familiar with that a little bit but tell the people for anyone who isn't okay well John Frum was an African American fighter pilot during World War two any Crash landed in the area down in the South Pacific, you know near the Papua New Guinea mmm so he survived it and

42:50 When he left, the aborigines there because it looked like them thought he was a god. So they constructed big plane right? They had festivals for him. They kind of imitated him, he was like their god so they worshiped him and this guy was just a fighter pilot who crashed landing. So if that happened in the 40's you know if it happened thousand years ago why would it change? You know yeah could be a very parallel type of story right so the fact that you got natives asking if you come from the sky basically saying they saw something flying in the sky what was flying in the sky that's the question right It's a curious thing

43:31 Man, and yeah like you mentioned the Patagonia stuff which I thought was really interesting because i'm always down for anything involving Antarctica especially now it's a very Interesting place because it is so huge and underexplored. You got Lockheed Martin down there You got treaties that say you can't go there without really serious permission from Very important organizations So it is odd to hear about something like giants down there because who knows what they might find. There might be ruins down there, there might be all kinds of stuff is you know it's conspiracy rumors circulate but to have those pictures of the Ona tribe down there I thought that was pretty awesome yeah that's cool and exactly if these super tall natives

44:19 They're right there in the Arctic. If they were still around, who knows what's actually down in Antarctica? Which has always been mysterious. I had a friend who was stationed down there and he was working at Lake Vostok which really doesn't get mentioned about but it is really important, one of the lakes that they actually found deep water living organisms in crazy cold waters. So Lake Vostok has been very interesting. They've known about that since at least early 2000s. Now you have all the rumors going on did they find an Atlantis or something? So it's

44:59 You know it's interesting because we know certain things happen right? We know there was an operation high jump. We don't Admiral Byrd went over there And I've always kind of believed that in the earth like the hollow earth, right yeah That's my shit right there Yeah Me too man That's told like I've always thought that was I thought the whole flat-earth thing is just a distraction So you don't actually learn about the hollower so The Hollow Earth you know very interesting especially when you got bird flying over parts that weren't frozen, you know? That had vegetation. So what's that about and then like you said there are areas where you're not allowed to go so who really knows we can't really be tourists because we don't have access to certain places right like all the cool places we can't go too like in Cuba for example I lived on Guantanamo Bay when I was a teenager right and our teacher used to tell us about

45:55 there were pyramids and stuff in the mountains, Sierra Madres. The areas you're not allowed to go in basically they had found. Which is very interesting because you have supposedly if you go on the top part of Cuba a little bit off the northern side, they found some scientists. I think it was Canadian and Russian scientists found some submerged buildings that look like some Mayan temples and stuff. So- Damn! Yeah. And then there's no update They're not allowed to explore any further, right? Because it blows the whole thing wide open. If you have Mayan temples or whatever and actual Mayan pyramids in Cuba it might mean that those things are actually older and not even built by the Maya they could be from a time when the Caribbean was higher right true And then kind of goes into like the whole idea that there was asteroid that kind of hit off North Carolina Yeah, and the Younger Dryas period exactly yes something happened

46:59 about 12,800 years ago. Yep. So that's why they're kind of trying to say now like oh there's humans here a hundred thousand years ago or something in California which is interesting but like how come they don't talk about the footprints and the ashes and the volcanic ashes or whatever? Like you know that are super old that they found in Mexico. The geological US army came in and said because they found some carvings on a Macedon bone or something And they found some evidence that appeared, that there were humans there over 200 or 3000 years ago. They just kind of shut it down. This is in the seventies you know? So they know... It's just that control and it goes back to keeping this lie of evolution and keeping their Royal Academies and keeping this constructed narrative of their false timeline of history in check man. They got

47:51 So that's the only thing, you know. Nothing will disturb that right? So they have to make sure this is why the Giants get no love You know they kind of despite every culture in the world and every history and all the Bible everything it says nothing but giants But well, that's that's the thing man. I mean this is amazing stuff There's clearly something there but these giants seem to be everywhere just a couple hundred years ago based on these stories could all Trace really have been wiped away That easily if they did exist so recently it seems odd that we can't find any Exactly and this is kind of okay just going off biblical stuff right? Mm-hmm The Giants were created never created they were the offspring of

48:38 the relations of the angels, right? Like the fallen angels. They were... Okay let's take it back first of all there was the creation these races, the Adama or whatever, Adama because it's the atom like wasn't like one person you know it was like a race. Genetic engineering is that kind of thing? Yeah exactly genetic engineering and when the first races was Adams and Eves so to speak right but then they were given this sort knowledge by the reptilian And God got mad, so he punished him. So he left them out in the world and punished them. But then the problem was that angels were like damn these eaves are kind of hot! So they started playing around with him and they were- Grabbing by the pussy. Doing the Trump tactic you know? Basically they were giving birth to giants but the giants were kinda cannibalistic. They weren't very good. It caused the gods to be like yo

49:35 You know, this experiment has gone long enough and we've got to get rid of these assholes basically. And that cannibalistic element is consistent with the stories from Native Americans and the people who saw these actual giants right? I was just about to say it's very interesting you have the same thing in Native American history as about these cannibalist giants and they were destroyed specifically because the Great Spirit was tired of the ship so... You know same thing in the biblical, so we have this collective consciousness of very wicked Giants Messing shit up and needing to be destroyed and that's kind of what happened. So After this, we know that all of them couldn't have possibly died because even in the Bible there were still giants they had to go kill. Right? There were still Goliaths you know there was still... as a sons of Anak right when Moses is making his way to the promised land and these little scouts come back and says like yo bro we got a problem You know Jerusalem looks cool and all but there's the sons of Anak how are we gonna beat them? They're buncha giants

50:38 So a lot of part of the Bible is figuring out how to get rid of the pesky giants that actually survive. So if those ones survived, was to say that all the way across, you know in the Western hemisphere they wouldn't survive too. Obviously they did because we found evidence of it right? First person accounts but the thing is you know where were kind of looking for that real like real giants you know like 15 20 foot you know all this stuff yeah I don't think there was ever sort of a 30-foot giant 20 foot just kind of stretching as well. I guess it depends on what point in history with the atmosphere because we know certain types of history there's certain atmospheres that you know giant things are bigger, right? Right it changed like the dinosaurs couldn't exist in the current environment We have had to be different at that time so could have had giant people too

51:33 Exactly. So I think at some point, there could have been a more giant based on that and I think what happens is just like anything in genetics you have... because a lot of the native when they encountered the giant chiefs were all basically most of the chiefs were giants 9 foot 10 feet very astounding to these conquistadors And it was because they had selective breeding, right? So it was keeping that because the giants... Because usually it goes to semi-divine and divine. Keep the bloodline so these taller ones they had been part of

52:13 kept the bloodline together. That's kind of why there were still some left because not all of them were giants and a lot of times you'll find most, especially in the mounds when they started digging up the mounds and everything, most of the Indians were about seven to seven-and-a-half feet tall which is still very tall so that's a good indicator that they were kinda related and they still had these DNA and this gene of this ancient race Giants now like seven footers and watching the playoffs and a lot of tall dudes out there So the idea that the giant is nothing but a myth or fairytale is complete nonsense yeah, and

52:59 You know, your book is full of those great newspaper clippings from early America that describe the giant bone findings. And there are just so many of them I wanted to read this one as an example because it is from The New York Times in 1886 It says Cartersville Georgia the water has receded from the Tumlin Mound field and has left uncovered Acres of skulls and bones. Some of these are gigantic! If the whole frame is in proportion to the two thigh bones that were found, their owner must have stood 14 feet tall. Many curious ornaments of shell brass and stone have been found some of the bodies were buried in small vaults made of stone a representative from The Smithsonian is here investigating the curious relics

53:43 So, that one hits on all the high points. I mean 14 feet tall and of course it gives the Smithsonian a mention for good measure which was a big part of the story too but i like that one That's a great one and it basically illustrates the fact that The Smithsonian always at least they end with the Smithsonian showing up or we shipped off the bones to Smithsonian, you know And then he never heard never heard from again. Mm-hmm Amen man Well This has been a blast man I could do it all day fascinating books ancient mysteries are some of my favorites and we covered quite a bit Do remind the folks at home where they can check out more your work Or get in touch with you or any other projects? You're gonna be coming out with next

54:24 Yeah, you could get a hold of me on Facebook and have a blog and online metaphysical library with free books. Free books and free lectures at ExavianVision.com You know I have books coming out. I think I have one coming out in the fall about ancient aliens in the Bible so gonna talk about that And then another Giants book is coming out in spring that goes into more Middle Eastern myths some Russian stuff and uh just Keep on keeping on Yeah, it's all we can do man. Well thanks again pimp keep doing what you do and I'm sure we'll talk again down the line We will we'll talk again Thanks man. You got it appreciate love show Oh, thanks boom people Xavier Hayes my man Bringing it and he loves the show how about that?

55:13 And I love the guy's books, fascinating range of stuff and we definitely went over some of the finer points from our last show a couple years ago because of that bad audio quality. We had obviously much better this time around but i think that Shem Suhor stuff is just really interesting. The earliest insights into a banking priesthood that is represented by the serpent you know? I love it and I haven't heard about that group anywhere else really besides Exavian's book And then the Jim Henson-Sinclair family Disney saga, that's a perfect story wrapped in a neat little conspiratorial package. And I have no doubt that many people have died over megacorporations wanting rights to various shows or musical catalogs and all that sorts of stuff. I even think people die for patents and other things unrelated to the music industry and various rights and holdings

56:04 If we've learned anything on this long wild ride, it's that they do not fuck around at those upper levels. They're cold so I don't doubt that at all and the St Clair bloodline representing themselves with a brontosaurus is provocative and if i wanted to take the air out of that I could say that the story about oil used to be that it came from dinosaurs and so that representation isn't terribly odd But then taking that symbol and making a show that mocks a dim-witted family of dinosaurs called the Sinclairs, That's just icing on the cake. So touche Jim Henson

56:40 But I think this is a fun episode all around maybe more casual than some of the recent shows like with Dr. Skinner and McKay Jenkins, those are fairly academic exposés on specific topics but this is more of a conspiratorial Pandora's box going into everything from banking to living giants to Lewis and Clark to the hollow earth...I mean I'm a happy man! Alright, now we're going to get into some THC updates for you. I mentioned a server move and i'm getting enough messages now in my inbox to know there's a problem with the feed updating for some people but not so many that it's everyone So I don't know exactly what's going on What's been happening is we have so many people accessing the RSS feed for the free show so many hits bottlenecked into that one directory

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1:05:14 But back to today's episode, I did think we covered a lot of great ground and going over reports of living giant encounters from not so long ago was a nice switch from the giant skeleton remains stuff that gets talked about a lot. And in the Plus show we got into some other pretty wild stuff. The Paxton Hayes saga, John Quincy Adams' interest in the inner earth and its devastating effects to his political career We got into the excavation Xavier is personally involved in and how close he is to perhaps uncovering the lost Dutchman mine and proof of a lost race of giants Other legends of lost cities and hidden treasures, drone ranges. Modern day giant reports from the caves in the Solomon Islands The Lovelock cave giants Ghost tales from Xavier's own haunted home

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