Topic: Waco

Jeremiah recounts his relationship with Charles Pace, the current owner of the Mount Carmel Center in Waco, Texas. Pace, who leads the current church at the site of the 1993 Waco massacre, granted Jeremiah exclusive media access for the 30th anniversary. The segment explores Pace's research into the dark history of the property and the musical talents of David Koresh.

The discussion shifts to the official versus alternative reasons for the Waco siege. While the government cited illegal weapons and child abuse, Charles Pace's book "Waco: A New Revelation" suggests Koresh was actually targeted for attempting to expose a nearby "boys home" or ranch. This ranch allegedly involved high-level political figures in illicit activities, providing a deeper motive for the "Deep State" to massacre the Branch Davidians.

Greg and Jeremiah discuss the proximity of George W. Bush's Prairie Chapel Ranch to the Waco site and the Methodist Children's Home (MCH) Boys Ranch. They note a 2001 visit where Bush brought Vladimir Putin to a local high school in the tiny town of Crawford. Jeremiah mentions allegations from a caterer regarding "homosexual pedophilic" activities at these nearby properties, suggesting the Branch Davidians may have uncovered these secrets.

Jeremiah notes that Timothy McVeigh was seen outside the Branch Davidian compound selling bumper stickers shortly before the fire. This experience reportedly influenced McVeigh's decision to bomb the Oklahoma City federal building exactly two years later. Greg confirms the address of the Methodist Children's Home (MCH) in Waco, noting its extreme proximity (4.6 miles) to the Mount Carmel location.

Jeremiah discusses his friendship with Scott Mabb, a child survivor of Waco who witnessed his stepfather's murder by federal agents. They plan to collaborate on a documentary focusing on Mabb's perspective. The conversation transitions into a defense of gun ownership in rural areas, with Jeremiah and Greg noting that firearms are essential tools for protection against wildlife like alligators, coyotes, and bobcats.

The 1990s cultural landscape was defined by a high level of government distrust following events like Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Gulf War. This era saw the mainstream success of Whitley Strieber’s "Communion," Bob Lazar’s Area 51 claims, and Bill Cooper’s "Behold a Pale Horse." The X-Files tapped into this existing fervor for alternative archaeology and paranormal news.

Christopher Knowles previews upcoming projects at the Secret Sun Institute, including a tribute to the late Tracy Twyman and a debunking of "Zeitgeist" style religious theories. He also announces a new book, "XF Ultra," which will explore 1990s conspiracy culture through the lens of The X-Files, covering topics like Waco, Ruby Ridge, and MKUltra.

Stephen D. Kelly suggests the 1993 Waco siege was a "scorched earth" operation intended to destroy evidence of David Koresh's knowledge regarding drug shipments through Mena, Arkansas. He further claims that military personnel who serve as escorts for Bill Clinton on foreign trips frequently end up dead to prevent them from testifying about his activities.

Shander Blussman recounts the 1993 Waco siege involving David Koresh and the Branch Davidians as his pivotal "red pill" moment. The discussion highlights the actions of the FBI and ATF, questioning why law enforcement chose a violent standoff over a simple arrest. Blussman links the events at Waco and Ruby Ridge to a broader government agenda aimed at cracking down on private gun ownership in America.