Topic: Occult Power

The discussion addresses why the global elite engage in complex ritual structuring, citing Manly P. Hall's view of symbols as "vortices of force." Popehead suggests that these acts are often performed for the sake of the act itself—an "inverted theophany"—rather than for a specific transactional goal. These rituals serve as a "power trip" and a signal to other occult groups that they still maintain control over the narrative of reality.

Greg Carlwood asks if global power structures and figures like Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates are influenced by an occult dimension or non-physical entities. Jason Quitt confirms that the practice of calling upon specific beings for societal power is an ancient tradition. He suggests that because the mind is an external field, these entities can influence thoughts in a way that sounds like one's own internal voice, making manipulation difficult to detect.

John Michael Greer joins the program to discuss his book, The King in Orange, which examines the magical and occult roots of political power. The conversation focuses on the 2016 election, meme magic, and the use of symbols and slogans as tools for psychological and magical manipulation in modern politics.

The conversation addresses the historical suppression of magic and intention-based practices by various power centers. While indigenous cultures often relied on a single shaman or guru, the Power of Eight model is presented as a democratic alternative. McTaggart notes that modern clampdowns on holistic medicine are a continuation of the historical effort to control individual and collective power.

Carver argues that occult knowledge is not necessarily hidden but is avoided by the masses because it requires personal responsibility for one's destiny. The conversation contrasts ancient Egyptian pharaohs, who were supposedly benevolent mystics, with modern elites who use these tools for corruption. The breakdown of meritocracy is identified as the root cause of various conspiracy theories regarding secret societies and global control.

The movement of occultism from the public sphere to underground groups like the Freemasons is attributed to a societal fear of the unknown. Modern society is described as returning to a hierarchical mindset where individuals must defer to academic and religious "high priests." This loss of self-sufficiency is linked to trauma-based externalization of power, leading citizens to look for saviors in political figures.