Topic: Nafta

Dave Colum reviews the claims made in Kathy O'Brien's book, *Trance Formation of America*, regarding her alleged life as a high-level mind control victim. The conversation details the use of Disney movie metaphors and *The Wizard of Oz* as psychological triggers for different personalities. O'Brien reportedly served as a human "encrypted messenger" for political figures, using specific keywords to switch between programmed states.

Jimmy Dore explains the origins of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) under Bill Clinton and Al Gore. He describes "triangulation" as a strategy to adopt Republican issues, leading to the gutting of welfare, the expansion of the prison population, and the repeal of New Deal banking laws. He also mentions a secret deal between Clinton and Newt Gingrich to privatize Social Security.

The panel debates the Electoral College and the 2016 election. Jimmy Dore argues that Hillary Clinton lost because of her husband’s 1994 crime bill and the impact of NAFTA on the working class. He dismisses the idea that she was "robbed," pointing out that she benefited from the same "rigged" electoral system during the Democratic primary.

Hillary Clinton's past support and negotiation of the TPP as Secretary of State contradicts her later campaign rhetoric, highlighting a history of support for trade deals like NAFTA. In contrast, Bernie Sanders is identified as the only current member of Congress who voted against the creation of the World Trade Organization in 1994. Historical warnings from Ralph Nader regarding the loss of national sovereignty to trade bodies are noted as having been accurately predictive of current events.

The progression toward a North American Union is being facilitated through trade agreements like NAFTA and the 2005 Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP). These initiatives aim to harmonize policies between the U.S., Canada, and Mexico without formal congressional debate or treaty ratification. Figures like Ron Paul have criticized the SPP as a quasi-governmental organization that bypasses constitutional requirements for regulating international trade.

Hawes theorizes that the federal government may have already recovered the Aztec treasure during the construction of Lake Powell and is using it as leverage in NAFTA negotiations. He also highlights a strange connection between Kanab and The Process Church of the Final Judgment, noting that the famous Best Friends Animal Sanctuary was founded by former members of the cult.