Dave Collum | Uncomfortable Truths, Satanic Trafficking Networks, & Cutout Characters

00:00 Well, I'm just a man whose intentions are good. From the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood and it's never been more difficult to find the signal in the noise likely because the noise has been blasted through every available channel in hopes that you just stop paying attention and engineered apathy out of information overload Psyops running as if they no longer concern themselves with even trying to be convincing, mass shootings with many unanswered questions, massive honeypot blackmail operations exposed with little consequence and a lot of people wondering what the hell is up with Erica Kirk. Confusion and chaos are certainly in the red and what better recipe for all flavors of apathy?

00:45 Political apathy from those who feel no candidate or party represents them on the important issues and that corruption has gotten so blatant it all feels unfixable. Economic apathy from several generations who feel the latter was pulled up in front of them and wages never seem to move at all, And medical apathy from anyone who watched the COVID operation with open eyes and feels that when it comes to their health they're basically on their own It is tough out there, but here to help us is today's guest Dave Colum. Dave is a professor of organic chemistry at Cornell University. He's also a former department chair and 20 year associate editor of the Journal of Organic Chemistry outside of the day job he's known for his lengthy and detailed year end review as well as his bold outspoken and oftentimes conspiratorial takes on pretty much everything And on that

01:31 front, he should fit in nicely around here. So let's get into it the propaganda parsing professor Boston terrier enthusiast and pisser with an eight foot arc Dave welcome to the higher side. No my pleasure glad that I had to meet you yes 15 years is a long time now was that was back in the dark ages of podcasting and blogging and Yeah nobody knew there was money to be made and now everybody's like they've seen that the dollar signs can come in so they launch with these huge massive operations and you know that's where i'm now, i'm paid what i'm worth zero.

02:07 There's so many things I hope to get your take on and we did set this up just after the UFC at the white house. Cause I thought maybe that would be an opportunity for another crazy potential thing, the FBI came out afterwards and said, we did stop something don't worry about it but they tend to do that too justify their increasing budgets and uh all that. What did they stop? Well i dont remember what they stopped The day after there were some headlines that they stopped two guys from California who wanted to do a drone bombing. You just don't know if that's true because I've read whole books about how the FBI coaxes these people into positions, you know they're not really actually gonna do anything but then the FBI stops the thing that they started

02:52 So it might have been something like that, we just never know. You don't know what to trust! In fact the day after Trump announced well actually before the UFC on his birthday he announced we got the Iran deal it's done everything is moving again and then the next day there were reports that maybe that's not true I just don't ever know what I can believe even something as simple as Is there a deal between two massive countries or no? What do you think's going on with that that's kind of the one of the most pressing issues i think is, is there a deal is trump still lapdog for israel is he trying to push back on israel. You know if u can tell me how reading articles about how pissed off the israeli were in bb was and some

03:35 Supposedly antagonist to be in israel saying that you know we gotta get out of there so we can finish off a ride once and for all. There seems to be a lot of kfc so this particular one i think you can drive yourself nuts trying understand it as it plays out, for me i've been just sitting back and say well i'll believe when i see it sort of thing i realize spending a lotta A lot of emotional and real energy trying to understand that is probably not my personal best interest. Yes, I understand that an you were saying just before we got going you didn't elaborate but you saw something just yesterday or just today that disturbed you? And of course i'm interested. I was yeah i've been digging into trafficking and stuff not because it's fun or entertaining

04:28 What i have layers of guy decided that there was there seem to be some gravitational pole. Was causing leaders to do things that made no sense you know why would you open southern borders why would u do what you do why would you push for free voting you know they're just a bunch of things it seemed to go against the basic principles, what i think we should all agree with stand for a common belief system And i got on the idea that maybe there was a gravitational force had something to do with you know honey pots and trafficking in it led to satanic calls and everything else under the sun is really our story actually.

05:07 I'm convinced it's all true i am not convinced understand the magnitude of the problem still. I'm supposed to a podcast on friday with the guy who is mk ultra victim who's kinda come out of the shadows and gray grey area monarch yes i know him well he's been here, Yeah, and I've been meaning to chat with him for probably a year and a half. And you know when i first saw me was wearing a latex mask with a muffled voice and it was one of these videos where he go who in their right mind would listen to this guy? But I did right for some reason I said I think he's trying to tell us something so anyway that sounds like she had diner this morning and i was watching the father son pair

05:52 And my spidey sense said there's something wrong with the relationship and i can't tell if im just getting so deep into this crap that i can't, i'm seeing shadows you know. But the sun had kind of a distant gaze he really seems like you know when is your read listen to someone like kathy o'brien usually picture it something just felt wrong about it and kid look traumatized me But it was not cuz he was acting traumatized and normal size but rather there is something missing i think, i think there is not necessary a uniform thread but a comment read these brainwash victims that their personalities are flat in the pancake. So even though one two recovered which is very rare breed they're flat where they can tell his horror stories on this matter of fact way because they

06:49 Add a reassemble of multi personality dissociative identity disorder and stuff like that. I've begun watching trying to understand the other day i was watching this guy named victor, Victor marks i don't well he's running for governor of colorado yes okay i've heard you talk about this elaborate for people and as watching canis owens interview men she is very hostile because he has some sort of association with tpsa so candace was beaten on him. Listen to him but you could really feel a kind of hatred,

07:27 And I was listening to him and something seemed wrong with him. And he made a few passing references to his childhood and stuff that seem to be hints, and what caught my eye the reason i paid attention was that He's one of the first people to console Erica Kirk. If I had better paycheck I bet Erica Kirk is been under someone's control since childhood she looks like a textbook case in my opinion But i'm getting these vibes off him and vibes are not very concrete right there just kind of your spidey senses telling you something's wrong so i took the interview and i passed it along to a woman named emma katherine who you probably know too yeah great.

08:16 Girlfriend or wife i think so one of those two we are my find out this week. And she is a pro i mean she she interviews all sorts of victims of trafficking and abuse and satanic abuse this thing that most people don't know exist, But i do believe they do and i sent to her said could you could you watch this and tell me if it your marks has been trafficked, she said yeah get to it after dinner but before she even got to it i picked up on. Twitter chatter among some of these somebody's veterans like gray was in on the chatter saying that he was definitely traffic inside i answered i got the answer to the question

09:00 Prior to am i but then imma and jumped in it said oh yeah so you start spotting the personality type pretty good if you watch. And read enough about this stuff is start seeing the victims and in the public. It's hard because when we know that above a certain strata of the law won't do anything about these things are vibes is kind of all we have to go on, And sometimes i feel the same as you are i see things and i don't know my man am i projecting this it's that whole thing of when you got a hammer everything looks like an ale you start looking for it you start seeing everywhere in you don't know if its as prominent as your starting to believe it is.

09:46 What are some of those signs when you see someone i mean you could say dead eyes, you can say they look kinda like there just an empty vessel somewhat but is there anything more to say about the profile of someone that seems as if they were trafficked. Well there's a buncha entry points this is what makes it so complicated because i got a cycle fifty voices i believe its called I listen all fifty interviews never traffic to people and they fall pretty neatly in the category so there's one who seem to have entered, the system or the network straight from the family into a satanic cult multi generational satanic call center it's an unfathomable thing else people the first thing you have to do is remind yourself

10:34 That's a ism as a religion and the sun is you put it in that context. Do you start understanding you know they used to cut the hearts out of people on ask tech yes text it so religion has done about your stuff as a bunch of his our beliefs and sound doesn't, my thing if it is a religion you then can wrap your brain around what might be happening and then the other thing is i think scientology isn't ramp there some straight up military stuff that seems to What are the ways that they get kids they get victims is a wolf you know i rest and potentially convict, a family member who's done something dastardly and then say by the way give us your daughter give it your son will forget everything and so they had him over.

11:22 And in fact they target people for which it appears as others already incest within the family so that is not hard to you take a soccer mom you try to get her to give up your kid is gonna be that easy but if she's part of this is standard call its easier. So there's these weird on ramps they get very blurry and there's an overlap of these one things for example no have the parent Continue to raise the kid but tell them what to do how to like i keep coming back to the document on my dog they showed how you read and train.

12:06 Working dogs and the first number of months it's the dogs with a family just to acclimate it to humanity right they just walk around in. It says its working dog but they're not training any specific way that's not hardcore train, But then it gets handed over to the system and the system then really trains a dog and the dogs get assigned two different people so you don't give them, the blob of a lab to a soldier with ptsd i'll give the real smart dog to the blind guy no. I have dogs who can smell medical problems when they're coming consents for example when that is gonna have a seizure or something like that

12:47 And they pair the dogs up for that need i think i think in some ways that's the way to think about trafficking of the kids and so most serious. Serious survivors who want to survive and thrive to be sent you can, I wonder because you know if gray and i'm a catherine anybody my cat's background but you wouldn't shock me if i discovered that i entered this world of podcasting having survived i have an after. I think that's likely true to and so that is a great way to,

13:22 Kind of put an analogy out there dog training because of that whole when the dog is trained the way they want it to send a sign do a person as like a handler essentially and i never really thought about it that way because one of the biggest curiosities to me is that. These people who seem like they've been abused and traffic in mentally programmed are then sometimes put in positions, end the public and that seems it just seems like baby. Chained up in some basement somewhere or if they were released a being intent on skid row but running for government working in hollywood it seems like a big risk to the programmers and the whole operation but i guess they feel like its pre ironclad

14:07 I just finished Kathy O'Brien's book, which has been out for 2530 years. The first book transformation. I don't recommend someone who's new to this game to even bother to read it because they won't get more than 20 pages in before their circuit breakers start going off and they'll say, I just don't believe this I was on a zoom call with juliet angle and kathy o'brien that's the same group that we had bobby kennedy scott alice senator ron johnson so this is it this isn't eclectic. Group of visitors to our white hats yeah haha and there some guys in the group who i don't think you're good people are think they're some problematic people near too,

14:48 What you would do right and you might infiltrate a zoom group this doing this but juliet for example got a medical degree. And the thing that baffled her was she could shed no memories of your childhood they start coming back slowly it takes real specialist therapist who's not just give me prozac can, call me in a month try to need someone who really knows how to pull apart i like peter bragg and was in the group he just spoken and i mean it is an elite psychiatrist who has real negative opinions of some of these things. And she says there's people walking around the world having no idea they've been trafficked and brainwashed that just not a clue, can you get mad at being away from the person on the subway screaming at phantom characters and skid row to the doctor who is

15:39 You know functioning but doesn't remember things has a very distorted view and the brainwashing is horrific so without going into great details they torture you in ways that would make up. Nazi german pw guard with a really push you to the edge of death and, they torture u in ways that you wouldn't think another human being would be willing to do So if you think about how can i have a kid living in society while this all happening imagine you take some five year old hit him with a high dose. You know lsd or something and then you start doing demonic shit to me your gonna break them fast and the other thing that really clicked kathy talks about verbal cues to trigger events so they have

16:30 Yeah i'm always different personalities and if you're talking to one of them the others don't just know about the others in there. Kathy does but people who have been really good idea and haven't repaired it anyway supposedly don't know about the other personalities in their so your talk into kathy and there might be a jane there might be a there might be another nice day serve different purposes, can describe like they had keywords that they could trigger Switching to the different personality types the sex slave that she had a bunch of podcasts but if you're gonna do forty five minute podcast your always gonna talk about the high watermarks right you can see tax by jerald ford various presidents who raped her and abused her.

17:16 That's why people would have trouble starting this adventure by reading her book but she was an encrypted messenger anything of encrypted messages is digital but you would actually be sent to deliver a message to the president mexico, saying my president would like to tell you to do this and this for nafta and i'll get back to you bob about message over right. You can trigger the different functions with keywords now. The critical thing is and she didn't actually say this i don't think remember but they use a lot of disney movie metaphor which itself as a corporation has a problem not just because there's kids nearby therefore there's better files but, i think the corporation has all the way back to wall has strong foundations in some pretty sick stuff

18:05 They use disney characters with the kids and wizard of oz triggers and stuff like that so what i imagine some kid decides to tell a teacher something, what's good can do it gets gonna talk about how prince charming did such as such right. Right away they're gonna be dismissable because you using their using fictional characters to try to tell story is not fictional Right and so it provides great cover now the other thing is true as the networks i think the pervs were soloist. They're not at all there are elaborate networks big networks yeah that's what shocks me how powerful the network are you kidding a diner that looks abused like its sad there's abuse all over the place every level but,

18:53 When you talk about a network that is so powerful that it can place people as governors and put erica kirk on the main stage maybe even charlie kirk was somewhat of a i've ever heard about charlie caballeros says one woman who's, A woman who is head of time magazine european division name elizabeth nixon, study that for a couple years when she found out her mother had been sent to mcgill university for the brainwashing up there done by you and cameron in these guys were sick bastards. She quit her job and studied it and she said come on harris says all the trades i think was playful possibly find hang around with although possibly annoying

19:38 And she might have been personality jumping she might have been going from different different. You know search shuttling like a randomly playing cd i was gonna ask you about this is erica kirk is it good example, you realize that a few years ago in the seventies there was a different erica kirk yeah one that looks like her to marry to the governor of florida. It seemed like he was kind of handed her because he got elected As a single guy and then he brought her to the governor's ball never like oh he got a girl now in any marries there. And it just seems like i mean you can get really weird i know you talked about, then swan on danny jones will he mentions cloning and i wonder like does it get to this level of human cloning like if u wanna program people do you just generate them from the ground up it gets bizarre

20:32 The strange thing about that story that makes no sense there's another one that makes even less sense what makes it so confounding is the name kirk was there. And erica married into the curfew names so you go what what plot line get you their right both times, write and sell so it requires a plot this way more elaborate than then makes immediate sentences the problem So i think it goes back to childhood right now is not just some chicken came along who became a cia general agent or whatever. She tries all the way back when she is seventeen supposedly arrested for trafficking and kids in romania using a romanian orphanage. Interestingly, the connections are not strong but various members of her family seem to connect back to you romania also on there's like a car no one there and there some strange connections that are not well fit together

21:32 What is your point wait a minute there's something very strange and. If you talk to someone like that i know about a number of conversations with east says it eastern europe was huge source of kids traffic women as trafficked young women stuff like that so bad air because i mean she cares, i don't see how you can look at her not seen authentic it's not imaginable to me that she looks like a grieving widow Now, you get attacked by people who say it's just appalling that but I don't trust the people who attack you because she is just a fake. She is just a total fake now gets to the question of whose Charlie as you hinted and I have watched Candace so much and just the other day Candice said Charlie was just so gullible and I'm having trouble with that one. Agreed

22:27 And there was a time and i where they were doing answering questions from the internet charlie said oh here's an easy one any sad to erica so wants to know what year you got married she has it. I saw that and then charlie jumped in a started sort of covering for her. And they said oh you know we have kids everything so busy in this and that any got no, the woman doesn't forget the year they have this weird story they met in line at the wailing wall initially and then she forgot about it men madam and meeting was like yeah you're the guy who is i was looking at and the wailing wall line it's like this is the most fabricated story

23:08 Talk about being placed in a person's life and she's been caught shipping to i mean it's not just that doesn't quite fit together but she has been there are some here is her saying one thing here's your sand the other thing there's enough to say that. There something very wrong with the story you have courses the famous deep state cia video about the risk of emps electromagnetic pulses, Did she did you got what is that all about you know that certainly seems very strange. Winning miss arizona beauty pageant is a strange one and you go well, no i can see where she get when u c pictures of her bikini and she wears it well let's put it that way

23:55 I can't look at her now and find a red track but that's it that's a learned problem i think. But i've talked to beauty pageant winners as i suspected they say lucky don't just walk into a beauty patch in wind because you look hot bikini what i can tell you is the state of arizona has a lot of women who look like a nice spend a lifetime training, when those beauty patches that's why can someone buy a line saying playing concerto So that story falls apart, that stories tied to trump and so you start getting home a lot of us spend time trying to understand his role in all this stuff i've never seen the smoking gun but proximity is starting to get overwhelming. I agree it's like what adult man

24:42 What's their money and attention energy into teenage beauty pageants and then is also in a dozen or so photos with abstain it just seems weird it seems like there's a pipeline that goes from the pad to the modeling to the traffic. And then the snake eyes movie how about that oh my gosh yes i'm so glad you said some charles kirkland shot in the neck on the same day and a public arena where the guy in ring the boxer is tyler. Tyler provides the distraction called tyler the executioner I think I have some of the facts from someone corrected me on this i could be having it wrong but somehow there's a guy named tyler, the executioner i think that his name

25:22 And supposedly the shooting occurred on the same date in the movie that it occurred in real life and but the movie was made a nineteen ninety six ninety eight somewhere there with nicolas cage and you go how could that possibly occur i'm with you just like in the matrix neos passport expires on september eleven two thousand one specific day yeah his is passport to the matrix which is like symbolically Symbolically, that is when a lot of us woke up from the Matrix. So it's the exact day There are all kinds of weird things there is a book written called Futility about The Titan

26:01 This unsinkable ship that did sink and then it's basically the same length as described as the titanic in its sank in the same way this book was written before hand, and then wait for it to the big difference in never heard that i've never had one either yeah it's called futility and it was written by a navy guy so here is here's the kicker so in the fictional novel the ship is called the titan. Well fast forward to that submersible that went down do check out the titanic at the bottom of the ocean, they had the explosion or whatever and i died what was that called the titan. So you have a book that mirrors real world events with a different name and then years later a vessel with that name also sinks checking out the initial vessel so your almost getting a supernatural your almost get into

26:54 Do you know they're trying to sell us on your phone and things like that and then after lunch land a flying saucer in the front yard of the white house before i can, before i buy that story but i can't roll out the possibility that you know million years from now if we keep evolving which i doubt. We want to send things that then we can't even our brains are not capable of understanding now it's conceivable there is stuff out there but the analogy is maybe where they and looking for signs of higher life while crossing a highway. Yeah not recognizing that the high way is assigned

27:37 Yes, you know when it comes to the satanic stuff I definitely had this on the outline because i read your year end review and you talked about your interview on Tucker Carlson and that's when that interview was over. You guys talked about way darker things than what was recorded And it did get in the child trafficking and satanic calls of course you know the details of something off the record should stay off the record but then he actually interviewed some people inside said okay so i can now, i can say some of that don't think he knows more about that stuff any plays a little bit ignorant on air.

28:13 There are different tucker's not mean to say that negatively but there is there stalker who can pretend did not know something that someone just told him and i'm being an interviewer. Trying not to take the steam out of his guest yes and then all the sudden he'll say something you go oh he knew more about that than he was letting on didn't write a do a buckley interview, buckley carlson interview cuz i watch that one very carefully Buckley through a couple of hints at tucker that tucker didn't buy down and i couldn't tell if he was letting them pass which she can do cuz i threw a couple hands out to any just did by nine we could have if you wanted to go there.

28:59 Or he didn't seem to know that is twice buckley made reference to thirty three and one was you know i said cash but tell thirty three hours. So i wanna ask what clay okay now tell me about thirty three because it's the masonic connection so badly obvious, and talk or look like she wasn't He didn't look like he's waving it off because you got certain mannerisms that what i thought was an authentic looking not quite sure what buckley is driving at, they must have interesting conversations all day now yes a trucker is aware of the satanic also said to me said i know these people. I know them and there are out there and then three times while we were talking about it

29:48 And his staff was sitting there kind of gobsmacked. You got the feeling maybe they had not heard any of this and they were a little shocked that the two of us try to see mostly went right into it three times he said we're not recording, right? So I didn't mention it to anyone until he started interviewing people who are studying satanic cults but if you watch the interviews, they're very shallow And i believe that they were designed to be shallow i believe they were designed just become a shot across the bow he would have asked deeper questions. He had like the grandson of famous hollywood actor or something who lives in hollywood need you wrote about, hey even tracking your satanic shit and hollywood which i think is prevalent but it didn't go anywhere

30:41 Who is really excited to nine eleven video right it didn't really go anywhere i get the feeling no he likes a circle issue and, like when you interviewed sam altman said that's suspicious the way your car died. Yeah and sam said to him sad sounds like you're accusing me And talk or said oh no i'm just blah blah blah blah and sam said sounds like you're accusing me and now i know no no no so he's got this play dumb. Yeah then hillary be some guy like ted cruz and it'll be laser guided attack dog yeah you know how could the interview, head crews interview people criticize him for his putin interview.

31:25 And what i saw was two guys who did not know what the other one was going to do and putin made it very clear he wanted to take control of the interview in target various student lisa okay, no food i think was worried that talker would do a non serious interview. Can you can understand how food might think that but my faith and talker to do a serious interviews too good Will you mentioned all the ones i've seen like a basically don't watch it on a talker but i watched all those ones you mentioned and. Yeah so i have other questions about the weird dark crazy stuff up,

32:02 Time is just ticking away and in this first hour you know something i have figured out after doing conspiracy for fifteen years like yes it's curious a lot of these questions and these backgrounds and how deep is the satanic network but so little of it is actually actionable. And sometimes it does start to feel like almost tabloid reality tv show stuff, we might mock a lot of people for watching reality TV because that's all trash But sometimes this gets to have a similar vibe to it and you can't use it in your life so. I know you also speak very well about economics and i wanna fold in a little of that for people where something that might be actually actionable for them. You did a recent show that had michael yawn on it as well and it was titled me your titles are always to get you click on it but it was tired or what the title is horrible, i will let you know they say column calls a crash never call a crash i actually called a crash the other day i tell you when i did no one crashed i'm calling this any

33:04 I said i never call crashes they don't do any good but if i were to call a crash i would say, i would say that the top of this market might have been the space xipo. Well there we go that's basically this this title was why global famine is coming in twenty twenty seven is not high part per believe you think thats legit. That's michael john strongest belief my god i've been on several zoom calls together Michael himself is a fascinating character he's prolific reader. He really has a pretty global experiences of former special ops guy and he went down to the dairy in gap during the flood of immigrants and he goes too far away places to explore things. He thinks that the, did this trade up or moves is about generating global famine i could imagine there being places where it's going to generate family now here's the end here will be interesting thing so let's say the straighter her moves eventually opens up

34:04 And nothing bad happens that is almost as instructive as if something did happen cuz i would tell you the whole, is this trade or more shuts down were screwed narrative was just a narrative. If it's really as bad as they say we've already committed ourselves to some pain and suffering in the future if that doesn't show up then that'll be like oh covered two point no right now Yeah that's the other thing you can never tell what is hype and just causing stress and fear and then what is a legitimate concern but in terms of our stock market. Regardless of the straight issue i've heard you say that we're due for like a seventy percent correction it does seem weird that stock prices are so high yet, the average person is feeling quite a pension it seems like wall street and main street or completely decoupled well the median person

34:55 rather than the average is bill gates brings up the average, the median person has no stocks to speak of so they're not feeling the love of a space x i p o or anything like that. The space xipos far sickly problematic. And the reason i think it might have been the top is not only absurdity of it but actually has a potential sucking liquidity on the market is when the dot com bubble burst one of the potential causes was that all the other dot com's, will you share store and locked up mode the lockout period was they are ended somewhere in the middle of two thousand

35:34 And is the shares appear there simply wasn't enough demand to swallow them and so the prices went down very quickly in that really triggered the dot com bus which drag market and the dot com stand pretty far. The space xipo open ai and what's the other one at traffic they're multi trillions of dollars worth of, where are the shares that for which they will be competing against other shares of other companies for ownership Can you get watch the system trying to find figure out ways to generate liquidity necessary swallow these shares like one point yet have some like five hundred thousand. Net worth or whatever send me a divide at least five hundred dollars worth there was some very high cap to keep just my networth investors buying when they drop that basically zero so don't forget that we need your six pack to buy this crap, no they're trying to get it into the index which would suck up active flows

36:33 Which is good for space x but those active flows now bidding for space x are not getting for this five hundred other stocks in the s&p, the past of flow excuse me it's fast and close. Go to the highest market cap and these guys would just jump right in behind market cap from the get go so almost by definition they pull demand away from all the other shares in the index And there's never been an ipo entering and index like this you can see a heroically trying to figure out how to deal with the lockout period. So instead of having it hundred eighty days so they release my seventy five billion dollars worth shares i have one point, five trillion dollar company some shares are still basically private hands that couldn't trade them

37:24 Yeah normally after hundred eighty days become tradeable and you can bet there's a lot of people space x is the one i get the hell out because it's training some like five hundred times sales. Scott mcnealy testified to congress absurdity that i can't bubble, Sales and revenue are pretty much the same any said sun microsystem was trading at ten times revenues what were investors thinking right and if ten times revenues is what we're investors thinking moment, then five hundred times revenue slash sales is complete insanity. And so that venture capital guys are looking at the banks and various players of the top or looking for suckers to pawn these shares off to try to get there

38:06 as much as i could have the one point five trillion dollar ipo off their balance sheet and i don't know if banks are exposed to it or not i dont know if there's risk here in that sense will find out but i think soon though the ipo will start. Having a deleterious effect on the markets yeah that's a great breakdown really just seems like outside of ai handful of like five companies all pretty much involved in tech there is no movement, Add all and everything seems quite overpriced not that i'm the best analyst for that but it seems difficult got two young kids to inform my how are you gonna navigate the next thirty years. And end up okay because its it seems hard to do at forty like i can't imagine, the road through the next thirty years is gonna be smooth sailing well

39:01 Yeah i just said a diner up in the adirondacks it's just this greasy spoon diner and aside of white toast which was two slices with three dollars and fifty cents. That's a lot of money for couple slices of wonder bread yes my wife has trouble when we go out because she doesn't do all the grocery shopping and stuff and she looks at prices and she suffers terrible price shock Add a principal just wait how can you how can i cost as much to go to buy a peach and it'll be about fifty and sugar i cant pay about fifty for a pizza get the sweet potato yeah this is the new reality no. I worked hard to get us to the point where u could eat all the peaches you wanted yes so inflation is rampant,

39:49 It's of course way higher than the official numbers i know at least one really prominent player who thinks that's been a not saying that but every other person in prominence agrees. And the question is what is inflation and it's different for different people so i don't have a mortgage for example so so inflation gonna be different. Different effect me than someone who rents or has a mortgage your whatever we are on personal inflation but most, did you talk about that straight up our moves probably not problem at the park right when you go to pop it five dollars a gallon actually where u killed. Where ya killed us in the store

40:29 The grocery store when you go to buy your groceries and those oranges cost no two dollars a piece things like that so. The k shaped economy the people without assets to hedge against these abruptly upward moves in prices are just seeing it increasing bills, add the credit card credit card dad has grown not dead credit card expenditures have grown nine percent a year for the last three years and according to step on boy those nine percent are not an increase sales is increased items sold it's actually just increase price. Updates so that people would i buy more cars like red cars anything like that they're just, what costs of what day always by credit cards just going up so that gives you inflation had measure

41:23 Yeah it every year i hear crazier and crazier stats that sound completely unsustainable. Credit card delinquencies being five x all this stuff and its like okay well student debts coming do now right when is there gonna be a consequence cuz i hear all these terrible stats in this just like all seems to be smoking mirrors or running on fumes but everything everybody's seems to be, no grumbling about it but There doesn't seem to be a historic crash or correction or anything like that i guess what's coming eventually but we keep kicking the can down the road. What's miss about this one is every other what's in overpriced market valuations of is the price of the market relative to something at all to track which means it devaluation can go up and down but shouldn't trend,

42:14 Sell that's why is price to earnings both inflation sensitive and sell the question is not. The value of the dollar we know that's going down but what percent return are you getting on your investment. P10 tells you who is speaking a price to get a ten percent return and for one hundred twenty years i went up and down like yo yo depending on mood nature the economy stuff like that but it just channel didn't go anywhere in, the case shiller p which is this time average p Which is good as any i like it because its clean and easy to get but i found out twenty five of them can you be. Average fifteen for hundred twenty years and then in nineteen nineteen nineties at last the channel never look back when i say never look back people think the markets were dirt cheap and oh nine they were not, hey had regressed to the main

43:13 They had a short pf fifteen other valuation metrics agree they were not dirt cheap and nine is just that we found from fifty thousand feet so it felt like a problem. And the markets weren't even profoundly overpriced in two thousand six or seven i mean you are high, should have been correcting but now the case your fees forty to search just get back to the average Fifteen we're talking about rounded a little bit and call it sixty five percent correction which means if you have, yeah if you have three million dollars in the bank your boomer and your feeling pretty cocky and then you retire and if that gets corrected that. Three million is gonna become one million and you're gonna be taking a sixty five percent deduction in your retirement income

44:09 From your savings because i correction and by the way corrections are corrections if they bounce right back that's the best thing people, i hate the term correction when it goes down twenty percent then a year later. hitting a new high you corrected nothing right correction implies that you fix something. I'm positive you put something back on course and you haven't for forty five years that's been the case we even be bouncing every major correction there are some painful ones in there but investors have been taught to always Stay invested even talk to buy the depths of the top and that has created a massively overvalued market. Yeah i mean what were the four one k basically have a gun your head because if you don't invest in the end the market with your phone okay then the government just takes it,

45:03 So it's just like kind of a big old ponzi scheme where everybody is putting their money whether they really have a passion for that investment or not, yes so that the government doesn't take it because well i could get something back from this isn't investment as opposed to just burning at. on the government but what would so given this situation would your advice be to young people if they do have any savings set aside wait on the sidelines until there's a economic bloodbath and then invest because you don't want to invest in a market that's way over inflated Everything is overpriced at this point if you look at farmland i saw some about two hundred thousand acre for farmland somewhere in the house to be two thousand acre and housing's overpriced so that the thirty somethings can't buy a house i miss quoted something on tucker. I said that the average,

45:57 First time home buyer was thirty and now it's fifty six that turned out to be wrong. It's not forty or forty two but the average home by first time but i have a home right now is fifty six which are second home buyers whatever, insults of the number but did you ever age of the first time homebuyers gonna buy more than a decade which means they're not able to buy houses Some clown went out there and said that the problem is that i don't say cloud can remember who set it but its a cloners thing to say, yeah they're hoarding their houses they should downsize nice as always you got this right so your town the boomer's that they should flood the market with their mcmansions. And buy smaller cheaper houses that younger generation can afford yet

46:52 Which will drive up the price of the cheaper ones and flood the market with mcmansions which younger generation. Not only can't buy but they can afford to own a house cost money in my house i got a figure put fifty grand in our house every year just on it, Wild so what would you tell someone in the thirties first of all learn to save most importantly so that before one k is it's teaching and say so get that process start i was telling i tell our grass when they leave when you sit with the HR person your new job. They say what do u wanna do i tell my son forget about the fact you feel like he likes some money because i haven't had time for a while,

47:36 Max out your voluntary 401k contributions specially if there's matching money but that goes on saying i'd max just to learn to live on the smallest footprint you can sell. So during good times i try this save i don't know if i tried a succeeded in saving probably twenty five or thirty percent of my gross salary year and that serves two purposes one is it puts away an accumulates wealth in the second is it teaches you how to live on a smaller footprint Yeah the other generation is already been trained to indoctrination having to do with climate change and crap like that to try to live in a small footprint anyway so i don't think they're even gonna want them expansions. I agree with that. And then the question what you doing those mcmansion's what happens to that market could be multi generational but how many families are gonna live where to mobile society now it was like its an agrarian society were multigenerational living makes sense,

48:36 So what do you do i don't know it seems like a tough thing to navigate and i'm very lucky that i have made this job and i'm kind of outside of the market but if i had what did you before this what did you do before. I was a store manager game stop really interesting fifteen years ago yeah you run a million dollar store they pay thirty five thousand year to do so right mr meme stock The podcasting world is a dog eat dog i'm sympathetic because you're the battle for the eyeballs as brutal and then have douche bags like me fuck up on. I'm monday by not showing up because he forgot who's gonna be in the car all day but it happens what bothers me i think about podcasting is that the attention economy has made so its not really about trying to find the truth of a thing anymore it's about saying the most outrageous claim which,

49:32 Is a totally different ballgame but if you look at people's short videos or their twitters or there are. You know the threads they make or the tech talks they might come up with a premise like what's the conspiracy behind trees that you had it's like right why i carry springer, Yeah it's gone that direction so that stuff gets more attention but its not the truth so to actually try to do a truth seeking exploration that's you know routed in some kind of reality. Becomes little more difficult although the reality of things like people being groom from the ground up and satanic cults,

50:11 That's shocking and truthful say that's the sweet sound is telling the truth about the markets is also. That's true, i don't think that for example thirty percent correction of markets is remotely adequate to be called a correction And if you wanna say why does it just stay up here forever then the answer is well because it will be. I can't show me a forty two your price to get about it to turn out percent return on your investment, yeah have to think of this as ownership of a company had asked to be ownership of revenue flow and if you're paying forty times earnings

50:50 You're you're basically price to get two and a half percent return. And so if you want to say why can't market state three x overvalued which is what two hundred percentage some people look into that map then u have to also accept basically one third the return of cash flow, i'm not investment if you own a pile up brand new toyota's you could say in good shape if your paid a hundred fifty thousand for me or not And two and a half percent doesn't even keep up with inflation that's right and inflation being pretty bad i'm still a believer that wars is gonna put about to the market i seem to stand alone but i think worse. People say new boss same as your boss ago well they said trump was gonna hire printer in war.

51:38 Maybe come a printer but i think he was anything but a printer and his outward. Speeches to the public for last fifteen years is better hawk even the most hot if you said name them all talk this person you can name it would be worse so this is, One of the last things i was gonna ask you about cuz i was looking at your book list. From the year end review and one stuck out to me that has been on my list that i haven't got to yet but, the fort bragg cartel drug trafficking murder in this special forces by dan john miller because a couple these guys who have pop their corks have links back to for brag it makes me feel like a lot of dark stuff goes on there

52:19 Well the military is involved in the trafficking scene cathie o'brien goes deeply into that. The fort brad cartel is more of a story of what happens when you when you create special ops guys and you create trained killers, No i'm right and then they come back to society in the red not ready for prime time write that you don't know what picket fence. And so the first break i told about them what happens when these guys end up in dark places like drug trafficking is not bad and whacking people because for them it means nothing,

52:57 And you can't be a delta force guy and have a serious conscious about killing people but when they had society that i hit pretty raw, add that's why like there is this event where sean ryan got in with dan crenshaw and then crash said my boys at six. Spotted you saying such and such and ryan made a big deal said that's the death threat. Yeah but first ago what do you mean that's a death threat well is boys are six or seven six and their train killers right so i totally understood what john ryan was saying when he said thats a death threat, show himself as special ops so he knows the language to end he called out cringe up big time crunch i was supposed to be seal on sale sort of

53:47 Podcast with a belt at the last minute and which clearly was because he didn't want to do this. The discussion, but he didn't expect Sean Ryan to call him out as. You can throw a fastball past the chin shut him up and you're not trying to try to spook a navy seal strikes me as a stupid thing that do they don't strike me is doesn't seem to be the day with power from from the assault. It seems weird that they even have podcast to be honest that's supposed to be my shot johnson very honest to me i'm I'm kinda connected with them i've had a few very very terse exchanges with him i could be talking to staff member you don't know grades not too sure, how great is that shirt ask gray about i will i will i will.

54:38 It's such a complicated world that we're in now and I don't know if it's always been this complicated probably alan dollars was no. Loveable character david rockefeller with the policy anika lucas is handler who's one of what, anakin kathy o'brien apply the two most famous survivors yeah and kathy o'brien owner you have to turn on owner when person can i ask charge review and hers was senator robert bernie he was at totally sadistic You know she's getting raped in her daughter getting her family was all traffic into the network and they're all still in there. And anika lucas her owner was david rockefeller and why not just wack kathy o'brien i mean she has so interesting question long, well one can argue that that cheese i think it was brad weinstein talked about the upstate files reset they gave us enough where we think we got the answer but really didn't force change

55:39 Yeah so rather than having a lurk out there if you give the person answer my zoom group had an NSA guy and it we didn't know each other inside no reason to say someone made this guy start talking about higalian philosophy is name of steven kaufland, he's on twitter anything about higalian philosophy in someone find her up since steven are you professor of philosophy or something i'm trying as a lawyer but i work for the nsa middle eastern specialist. And then i'm reading another book i think it might have been american betrayal by diana west which he mentioned stephen coughlin. As the pentagon's expert on radical islam hmm i got out wow that plot just taken even more so then i asked steve and i said okay diana west wrote american betrayal, and they're pretty bold statements about an alternative history of world war two

56:35 Like we left fifteen to twenty thousand us soldiers and soviet occupied territory that we never got back and reports of these guys were bleeding out of the soviet union for decades. And we pretended like we got a mall back and we didn't. And so that you go okay i gotta think about that one right so i asked steve and i said stephen are the redder book is she credible he said yeah books brilliant she's totally credible, and she kinda had to go into hiding because they're really didn't like your book and saw i did a podcast with diana west

57:15 And the oddity, the odd thing there was is that at one point I made sort of the same Hitler statement saying well i said i don't think you're a jew you would agree with this but one could make the argument that we sided with wrong guys. This is before my talker interview and diana says well ima june i would make that argument now when the tucker thing blew up she turned on me And so i ended up quoting her i went to going back and digging out our podcast and recording a verbatim as to what i said what she said just. Victor davis hans was gonna be nonstop which is really troubling to me but victor was lying in my opinion vector was not being truthful at all and boy might be a victor has changed so much, he's an elec on the problem child these can't country by that you know i will find boy thing is no longer working for me

58:11 And so i really bear down and victor and fortunately i had the goods because he made various claims what i said was preposterous and i back them, i mean i said ok here's the reference years that you know here is where i got that from. So it's a complicated world you get into the big leagues there's a kid at cornell yet fallen this cornell story was a kid who got a job interview offer something any responded back saying i do not want to work for a joe. I'm gonna go on any emails me says i know use support free speech and i said yeah but theres that being stupid,

58:58 But i didn't say that to him and i said what is cornell doing anything for example me said well i got this following email from a dean of something or other cornell. i read the email was actually an unbelievably rational email where the woman says we see you're having trouble social media that's gonna be a really traumatic time of their sending and do to help me i'm not here to reprimand you are not here right because. Cornell for example does need a suicide ride they don't need so she can help him get out of out of the limelight that would be good for cornell size said well i would stay in touch with her because she sounds like she's trying to help ya

59:35 Can i send otherwise i would lay low and hope the storm blows over now i don't think he's doing that i think it is i think you do not need for anti-seizure right. How can i monetize my troubles why don't know but the other thing is, i learned when love in and ted cruise enhance these guys are hammering me i learn that i wasn't necessarily big fan of being in the big leagues And then i watch dave smith and greenwald and john mir shimer just battle away just fearlessly talker carlson megan kelly does bad boy. I'm going you know maybe it's been a posse right baby maybe your to thin skin maybe add a girl parent, not worry about it so i have not read much about it but i've talked about on podcast which is

1:00:31 It feels less consequential but the irony is that when you write about it you can control your speech better what is a podcast you're likely to say something spontaneously stupid. Story of my life i take a kid a cordell says something spontaneously stupid but he's in trouble now because she's now, globally toxic and I don't, he's gonna he's going to have a little trouble moving forward. I agree. I agree well Godspeed to him, you know best of luck but man this was wild and fun we covered a lot good stuff do you have anything to plug should people take your class or follow you on Twitter? Do you just do this for the love of the game? Well, don't take my class unless you want to study how to do kinetics reaction mechanism and stuff like that

1:01:17 I can be found at David B. Column, i can be found all over YouTube as a guest. I've never organized some podcasts myself may God have mercy on your souls again I write an annual review which the reason why do it once a year is because it buys me time to ponder the meaning of stuff before I have to write about it whereas if I wrote a weekly or daily blog it would be just garbage in my opinion because I'd be changing my mind every day So i get a little bug my ass that i let it buzz around there for awhile and ponder it like i can read about charlie kirk last year but i think this year, i'm hoping you'll be a media analysis.

1:01:59 Some of it will be old news but i got a bill the case but i can do it efficiently and next time and then the question is what's the story all about. Who's charlie kirk one of the most interesting questions who's charlie kirk i've even heard rumor that erica was promised to be the vp candidate twenty eight ticket with jd vance, Now that's a bad idea because she is not working well see she thinks of what she does so she should be moved off stage. She got some honorific position in the defense department. It's just a strange story." She said in an interview about her mom getting a job with intelligence and I was like, well... Well her mom works deep state. Her dad she talks about being raised by single mother then you find out some other interview that she spent all sorts of time with their dad. She'd been caught fibbing so many times that alone is enough it's troublesome

1:02:58 Because someone who lies to you they're minimally sociopathic. There's something so strange about her and her her demeanor is so strange she looks traffic to me. Yeah and that is the big unanswered question as how does this stuff start where are these people picked up are they even, bavaria real like are they clones they come from some nights of malta secret order It gets quite crazy but i guess we'll say that for next time when you crack the case please come back and tell me if these your bed clones are there born into this satanic colder. How it all get started but it has been a pleasure and i gotta let you go eventually so keep speaking boldly and take care of kato audio sir. All right then there we go very fun one today, i tried to turn around quickly send some much of it was about the ever shifting sands have the present

1:04:02 And it was a nice little weave back into practical matters with the economy and geopolitics. I expected us to go way deeper into the geopolitics actually that is a huge value of having Dave here, anything that we only occasionally do updates on and even felt like the timing was right with so many things to comment on definitely not acquired era that were in But he wanted to talk a little bit more about his most recent rabbit hole of satanic trafficking and that is super interesting especially coming from him. It's not really a topic that some short supply around here even still it's unclear if there's a deal with iran so i don't know what there was to say so many mixed messages another sixty day countdown to do a deal with a capital D I guess salsa silly

1:04:57 Either way with booking i try to use a guy like dave to round out some of the lesser nailed down subjects but. He's got something is there on pretty much everything so it's tough not just let him read, what the supply shock thing does seem to be very real and it's like a wave you can see coming eight to ten months in advance. I personally never want to overhype or get into fear porn territory you know that but also think that Part of our value is a more level headed assessment of various situations in a raw truth way when i love other people might be in denial. I listen to dave and michael young talk about these things together they're very convincing that supply shock is coming it seems mainly for asia and europe and maybe not so much for the us but if china makes all of our shit and then i think its gonna affect our prices too

1:05:56 It's hard to say these things are very complicated and even people who consider themselves experts are constantly wrong. And completely blindsided and mystified by things that happen in the market so we do what we can i suppose but, i just want you a calm rational way saying stay awake be ready you do not know the hour when supply shock is coming And i also agree with dave when he talks about the economy and the general market being vastly overpriced, i mean just by the logic of historical trends and typical. Valuations of profits times earnings in all that stuff you need to come down seventy percent that's insane

1:06:47 So i don't know if you have extra money i guess the advice would be to hold off until then, no i don't give financial advice yada yada blah blah blah. The counter argument is that things just keep going up again even the experts can really explain why regular people do not have more money to spend it just all seems like its Running on fumes or a lot of it is games with numbers one example you probably heard about was the video thing, no video if i remember correctly wanted to sell a bunch of chips to one of the companies and they ran this weird game where they paid. No video in stock and then made the announcement that there are buying the chips and so both stocks went up and then may

1:07:41 Counted that added value as payment for the chips and it's like nothing really exchanged there you can claim like a fifty billion dollar deal but no real money, change hands its all just perceived value. We know this is smoking mirrors and the whole idea of main street being connected to wall street fell apart along time ago We all or most of us do have four one case or some kind of investments are parents do and we don't wanna see anyone get financially rekt but be prepared for. Some kind of correction or just keeps going up i dont know but watch it what can i say,

1:08:32 But as he brought up somewhere in there we did have this book on a specific day and then he goes to me come to find out you forgot it was a travel day who is going up to his cabin. And his wife is going through the last stages of getting off srs and that was another factor that i think my came into play, he's got these three damn dogs are so loud with their snorting and snoring and nails on the floor Kenny's in his cabin not in a real not is normal environment i guess i would say so it was a logistical challenge with audio hurdles what we are season pros me and justin at this point so i think he did a good job.

1:09:14 And it was kinda hard to hit all the good stuff i had prepared but it was just one of those interviews where very early on the outline gets thrown out the window. And that is not a problem as long as i think we're still being interesting and covering good stuff i have no problem being flexible, although in the second hour i did kind of wrangling back and we got much more focused on the kinda things i thought would get into you And some of that stuff included his twenty year consulting gig at five there, of course that sort of fell apart during coven and he's been very critical about how many people they killed and damaged with that backs. We talked about the quote that he mentioned in this talker interview that got him in hot water all it was doing is quoting general patent general patents said

1:10:08 That there's a good case to be made that we should have sided with hitler to fight against stalin in world war two pretty bold thing to bring up but. Dave is the old guy and then eventually we also did return to those satanic networks and we got into him looking into erica kirk and her background just how fabricated it all seems to me, Become a Plus Member, get twice as much of this show and get that free trial to check it out. In higher side news... Well we launched with the new frame and I like it alot! It's not fancy or overly busy. I tried to make it look kinda like a newspaper and not some over-the-top

1:10:51 Big bright colorful a i think it'll also allows for that wider shot you know the side by side which i think is a good thing a lot of communication is non verbal so you get those nods and confirming looks from the nonspeaker when something has been said. And what is the point of even having video if I'm going to just cut everything down to just the faces when it's nice to see people's backgrounds and where they choose to record. If you're curious at all, it's something to look at but let me know if you think its better. I personally also love that I don't have to plug plus as much It is in frame and I know it's part of the job

1:11:35 In your mind but there's just as weird then that happens where. A lot of times people do right me or they comment something on twitter like i didn't even know you had a extended membership thing and i don't know how that's possible but it is why always insane but regardless if i can outsource a little bit of that to a few words on the screen i will take that deal What is not just the promo actually think it looks better objectively than the two floating heads that we were doing which is common in most other shows. And other than that what is there to say i'm just riding a wave of various opportunities that keep coming up and saying yes wherever i can, you'll see some of these things happen one as a pilot that you might never see but its free trip to la and i can drive down to my san diego people get that little social charge so far gonna do it

1:12:29 But something happened recently i don't know what it is maybe just the nature of having a powerful wizard as the new captain of my spirit team with the wind really seems to be at my back. Who cares about that let's do the review thing for the last episode and that would be the cunning farmer todd elliot would you believe it he's got a four point eight on this one that's great we are rocking and rolling moving in a groove barbara And it feels good to see that topic rank high i think its way more about magic than is about farming by far. Much of the conversation applies to just a spiritual look at land in general and the natural environment, it's not like we talked about soil amendments or anything so

1:13:21 It just seems as if we've lost the language of the natural world and we had our understanding of cosmic timing taken away so much that was about time in astrology even. Who is more about that than anything so big fan of his and i love when myself in the audience are on the same page cuz it's not always a hundred percent true but its great when it is. I wonder about today show actually but david is a fun character and i think people who have listened for a long time, no me can understand why i saw the appeal I wasn't sure about the israel commentary thing with that's why i just try to move on but either way i can see dave being a semi regular guest to talk about economics and geopolitics, wherever this satanic trafficking research road leads them if you guys approve so yeah then we do is meet up calendar let's go.

1:14:19 All right june twenty seventh tomorrow gilbert arizona desert monks brewing sunday june twenty eight los angeles at the trails cafe, july six north coat point in new zealand and north cote tavern and sunday. July nineteen saint paul minnesota black stack brewing oaks pennsylvania july twentieth arnold's family fun center and pullman washington on august eighth there is one at ricos public house, add that is the thing. Gotta love it higher side meetup dot com anyone can make an event go there to find out more details the point me reading about is just so you hear. There's one near you and say oh great i'm gonna check out what's up with that you got a higher side meetups urs vp cuz its just good manners let the host know what to expect in terms of turn out but it usually, gatherings maybe ten or so people

1:15:22 It doesn't take much planning at all you don't have to coordinate with the venue or anything like that just go to a place where ten people can gather. Have a good time that's why there so many breweries on the list because they usually have standing room tasting room spaces and it's really easy to put the higher side logo on a table say hey how are you doing talk about your favorite subjects and gas and take that conversation into local issues in network, I don't have to spell out exactly how you make friends i think we've all done it before but. It is nice to have icebreakers like this crazy show so go forth and multiply with your network

1:16:05 Alright, well that is it. Thanks for listening! Hit Dave up on Twitter if you liked this episode and I'll see you in July Your move satanic psychopaths trafficking tyrants and engineers of the big everything your fucking move I blew another first date Where i told myself, I'd keep it light She may not be as awake as me But we can have a good time staying up tonight She was giving look Things were starting to cook but then she ruined the fun And I just couldn't bite my tongue How could you think they handled COVID well? It was a sight

1:16:54 Thought those masks were just for compliance Had nothing to do How many tests did you take? Yikes! You know that was all fake, right If you got the jab Where I told myself She may not think as me But we can have a good time So it started to curve Then she ruined the fuck A gender driven engineered fuck Sandy Hook It's us when you look into it

1:18:02 Where I told myself, I'd keep She may not be but we can have a good time Because you ruined the fun and I just couldn't bite. Beings ain't real Is that because you realize There's a disclosure game being played By shady intelligence guys Cause beings have been here for Not just since 1947 And anyway

1:18:49 Another first date where I told myself I'd keep we can have a good time in the cup, but then she ruined the fun