Topic: Green Berets

Andrija Puharich's background is revealed to be deeply embedded in the U.S. Army’s psychological warfare components and the early Special Operations Command. Puharich was involved in Project Artichoke and a brutal behavioral modification program known as Project Pelican, which utilized Clockwork Orange-style conditioning on prisoners. These military ties cast doubt on whether his later paranormal research was genuine or a cover for state-sponsored psychological testing.

Stephen Snyder details a nexus of criminal activity and occultism involving the Sovereign Order of St. John and special operations forces during the Iran-Contra era. He links these quasi-cult networks to the FBI's PatCon investigation and mentions members like Philip Corso, suggesting these groups have remained active for decades.

The conversation covers the case of Orion Krauss, a musician who murdered his family in 2017 near Fort Devens, Massachusetts. Chris Knowles connects this to his own fictional character, Kevin, and the real-world history of Fort Devens as a site of CIA intelligence schools and notorious murders. He describes the base as a "real-life Arkham Asylum" that housed figures like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Bernie Madoff, noting its connection to his own life traumas.

Brad Steiger shares a personal story of a violent haunting he investigated alongside psychic Irene Hughes and a former Green Beret. After insulting an entity in a basement closet, the team witnessed a door being ripped off its hinges and felt an invisible force lift all six people into the air. The experience changed Steiger's view on ghosts, proving some possess intelligent, vengeful intent.

The search for Dennis Martin involved 1,400 searchers and the unexplained arrival of Green Beret Special Forces, who conducted their own isolated search. Paulides details how the FBI and Park Service allegedly lied to the Martin family about the Key family's sighting. Lead tracker Dwight McCarter later confirmed that the timeline of the sighting was plausible, leading Dennis's father to believe the National Park Service was being manipulated by higher authorities.