Topic: Gordon White

Host Greg Carlwood reflects on the influence of the late Gordon White and the coincidental timing of high-profile guest bookings. He discusses Dr. Bush's perspective on the human virome, noting that the body contains 380 trillion viruses that are essential to health. The segment also touches on the dark side of epigenetic stacking, referencing Project Monarch and the weaponization of multi-generational trauma.

The host reviews the high listener ratings for the Mark Booth interview and announces a search for a new alternate audio editor. He also discusses the positive reception to his five-hour tribute show for Gordon White, which compiled evergreen wisdom from the late "wizard" of Rune Soup. Carlwood notes that the tribute was released for free to ensure White's insights reach the widest possible audience.

Host Greg Carlwood introduces a special tribute episode dedicated to the late Gordon White, creator of RuneSoup. Carlwood reflects on his dislike for traditional clip shows but argues that his collection of Gordon White interviews represents a uniquely dense and witty archive worth revisiting. He mentions a previous livestream tribute with Miguel Connor and Chris Knowles before detailing his personal transition from being White's interviewer to becoming a genuine friend.

Greg Carlwood addresses a recent Twitter controversy following the death of his friend Gordon White. He expresses frustration with "anonymous Christian" accounts that posted hateful comments about White's lifestyle and occult interests. Carlwood defends White as a "shamanic healer" who built a positive community, contrasting his behavior with the "moral superiority" of his online critics.

Host Greg Carlwood introduces guests Lance Baker and Matt Dragonstone to discuss the art of petitioning spirits and the subconscious. Lance Baker is a hypnotherapist and Reiki healer, while Matt Dragonstone is an astrological magician and jeweler. They introduce their collaborative project, a Pleiadian pendulum set designed for spiritual communication, which was inspired by the passing of their mutual friend and frequent guest, Gordon White.

The discussion addresses the perceived dangers of magic, citing the premature deaths of occult researchers Tracy Twyman and Gordon White. Lance Baker distinguishes between "faith" (belief without evidence) and "trust" (built through consistent, safe interactions). He recommends beginners start by communicating with ancestors or trusted friends rather than high-risk entities like Goetic demons to avoid psychological or spiritual "burns."

Matt Dragonstone introduces the concept of risk management in magical operations, suggesting that "big rewards" like extreme wealth require "big risks." He reflects on Gordon White's death at age 44, attributing it to physical health issues rather than magical blowback, while acknowledging the stress of being an outspoken magician in a materialist society. The segment emphasizes White's heart-centered approach to his work and his rejection of the "one shot at life" worldview.

The host defends the practice of magic against critics, highlighting that both guests use their skills for the service of others through healing and personal insight. He notes that Gordon White's "Rune Soup" community was built on this principle of service. The segment argues that those who see through the "veil" often develop modalities to help people solve real-world problems rather than just satisfying their own egos.

In the post-interview wrap-up, the host reflects on the validity of Reiki and the craftsmanship of Matt Dragonstone's talismans. He emphasizes that while the tools are expensive, they offer a "superpower" compared to standard jewelry. He clarifies that the guests gifted him the pendulum set without expecting an interview, but he chose to share the experience to be reciprocal and transparent about his personal magical experiments.

Using the consecrated pendulum, the host attempts to contact the spirit of Gordon White. He provides context on White's death, noting that his partner James requested a wellness check after White missed a call at his Airbnb. The host confirms that the medical examination found the cause of death to be a heart attack. Through the pendulum, the host asks if White was in pain or had a premonition of his death, receiving "no" as an answer to both.

The host outlines the topics covered in the second hour of the interview, including energy work, trauma, and the cyclical view of history. He encourages listeners to join THC Plus for the full two-hour experience, explaining the various ways to access the private RSS feed. Carlwood also addresses the hiatus of his "In The Weeds" and solo shows, citing personal challenges such as the death of Gordon White and the demands of the summer season.