Topic: Goetia

White references Aleister Crowley's early experiences with the Goetia to illustrate how magical forces can interact with practitioners regardless of formal rules. He cites Terence McKenna's view that the purpose of life is to familiarize oneself with the after-death state. The segment contrasts the "safe" path of guided shamanic Ayahuasca ceremonies with the more chaotic, self-directed path of the modern magician.

The Goetic demon Buer, often depicted as a lion's head surrounded by five legs, has reportedly appeared as a background character in the Disney series "The Owl House." One guest shares personal experiences of this entity manifesting through random media encounters, such as YouTube videos. The segment concludes by comparing ancient sigils to modern circuit boards, suggesting a link between occultism and Silicon Valley technology.

The discussion contrasts the modern approach of Chaos Magic with traditional Grimoire systems. While Chaos Magic involves generating or interacting with random spirits, Dr. Skinner prefers working with extant "registers of spirits," such as the 72 entities listed in the Goetia. He recalls early conversations with Chaos Magic pioneer Pete Carroll at the Illuminist Club in London regarding the objectivity of spirits versus subjective generation.

Dr. Skinner recounts a striking physical manifestation that occurred during an evocation of the Goetic spirit Agares in the English countryside. Although the spirit did not appear in human form, a massive flight of birds suddenly descended a chimney at 1:00 AM and flew in a continuous stream around the outside of the ritual circle. The event was confirmed as physical the following morning when the practitioners found and photographed bird droppings strictly limited to the area outside the consecrated circle.

Dr. Stephen Skinner concludes the interview by highlighting several of his 46 published books for listeners interested in deeper study. Key titles include "Techniques of Greco-Egyptian Magic," "Techniques of Solomonic Magic," and "The Goetia of Dr. Rudd," which features commentary on 17th-century practitioner Dr. Rudd. His works are primarily available through Amazon and specialized bookshops in the US and UK.

Lon Milo Duquette recounts a detailed story of being hired by a Catholic archdiocese to perform an exorcism at a girls' high school plagued by misfortune. He describes the process of treating the school's issues as a single spirit and performing a Goetia evocation in his office before arriving. The narrative includes his interactions with the Mother Superior and the eerie atmosphere of the 100-year-old institution at night.

Dr. Stephen Skinner contrasts the "chaos magic" approach of Peter Carroll with the traditional grimoire system. While chaos magic involves generating or hitting upon random spirits, Skinner advocates for using extant registers like the Goetia, which lists 72 spirits with their specific names and sigils. He argues that spirits are objective entities rather than internal psychological constructs.

Dr. Stephen Skinner concludes the interview by directing listeners to his extensive bibliography of 46 books. He highlights specific titles including "Techniques of Greco-Egyptian Magic," "Techniques of Solomonic Magic," and "The Goetia of Dr. Rudd." He notes that his work is most easily found on Amazon and covers both Western ceremonial magic and Flying Star Feng Shui.

Robert W. Sullivan IV warns against the casual practice of Enochian or Goetic magic, citing the potential for psychological or spiritual harm. He explains that in traditional occultism, archangels are often viewed as more dangerous and less tolerant of humanity than demonic entities. The discussion covers the history of magicians seeking universal wisdom through evocation and the "license to depart" required to conclude such rituals safely.