Matthew LaCroix | Suppressed History, Anunnaki Engineering, & The Eagle/Serpent Divide

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00:51 Which means you'll unfortunately never hear my voice again. 1930s President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed the nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the fireside chats His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times. I'm Greg Carlwood These are the higher side chats. It's a strange world after all, people! Thanks for tuning in from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and i have long wondered just how tightly controlled our reality could be We know that more exotic and advantageous energy sources have been suppressed by oil men for their own profits And profits themselves are a fictitious illusion of wealth generated by the green paper they print

01:52 Our media definitely keeps us fearful, anxious and pacified when we're not on the hamster wheel of life to the point that even if we were in some sort of Truman Show simulation I'm not sure the masses would even be inquisitive enough to uncover it. But a conversation about the degree of control definitely needs to include questions about the nature of consciousness, the suppressed power of the individual and the true history of humanity that they don't want us to know And if you truly, deeply digest the material left by the ancient world it seems that they have at least tried to preserve the answers to these questions and many more. In fact maybe the highly advanced energy abundant altruistic global utopia of oneness we sometimes dream of our engineered origins and the cycles of catastrophe we may be vulnerable too are several of the big secrets our ancestors tried to tell us about and what this system worked so hard to make sure we never discover

02:46 Well, these are some of the things I've learned from the work of today's guest Matthew LaCroix an impressive guy who has dedicated himself to an expertise in reconstructing the stories left on the ancient clay tablets we do still have and connecting the fractured dots of the human story. He's best known for his books The Illusion of Us and The Stage of Time, as well as his reconstructed 200 000 year timeline of human civilization. All which can be learned about at thestageoftime.com .He is also the man behind the Great Mastermind Discussions podcast and I know this is going to be a good time! The Lost History Reconstructor Cuneiform Tablet Teacher and Anunnaki Educator Matthew LaCroix welcome to the higher side

03:30 Greg it's great to be here i just wanna say i truly appreciate that wonderful intro and you certainly have a very extensive amount of knowledge i'm impressed i try i try i mean so much material so many guests sometimes i feel like i've only retained a fraction of it but I'm hanging in there but i am super excited for this one. I've heard your interviews with both the conspiracy farm and tinfoil hat, read both of your books and just very impressed with what you decided to make your expertise And one of the things that like most is how even though the stories we have of things like Anunnaki engineering Enki & Enlil The Sumerian king list

04:11 these more well-known fragments of what's been found. They sound very fantastical, but you reiterate often how you want to make the case for these things using the best evidence you can and we probably have more evidence than people realize. To kick this off with a quote from The Stage Of Time, you say Cultures across the world have left behind extensive evidence in ancient texts, monuments and megalithic structures explaining that long ago advanced civilizations once existed on the earth that were eventually destroyed by devastating global cataclysms These lost civilizations understood the secrets of energy, consciousness, mathematics and even the nature of reality. As I began studying ancient history in the universe, I came to discover that so much of what I was learning about was being deliberately hidden and suppressed from the public. This prompted me to ask the question of why all this information is being kept secret? That answer has fundamentally changed my life forever and sent me down a long road of discovering what the truth is."

05:11 And that is a great place to start if we focus on the tablets and writings tell the people about how much we actually have and where we see it intentionally being suppressed. Okay that's a great quote i appreciate that certainly covers a wide umbrella of different areas to talk about so like you just mentioned will start with talking about these uniform tablets in extensive, the evidence is for what this story is this lost story of our past and one of things I wanna start by bringing up yes is that a couple years ago when a lot of those individuals like myself better trying to uncover what this loss history is by reading these tablets, reading other ancient text from around the world and then looking at these megalithic structures left behind from these last civilizations in trying

06:08 put that into a narrative in the timeline to understand both our past as well as how sophisticated we were and the influences that led to our rise and subsequently fall and then, rise again over and over again in these cycles. And one of things that really startled me When i was studying these tablets just reading them going through anything like the after he says send me to adopt a new genesis and many many others. Was that there's this misconception that had developed rampant i guess you can say online where the terms on and not key and basically talking about ancient kings in genetic creation of

06:52 Neanderthals and denis olivians to create a homo sapiens that we see today all those things there is this rumor going around that none of it was in any of these tablets and that. Researchers like zechariah session had made up all those terms in the end of it was real, can i remember what's going on at the time but i was studying these tablets and if you came apparent to me that if we didn't Really bring the facts back into light this incredible story our story could be lost forever and so i was. Going online and trying to create posts in doing videos and telling as many people i could listen these. Ancient tablets have been translated since the late eighteen hundreds by some of the greatest a serial just experts in the world that learn how to read what is your notice summary and uniform tablets is it is a dead language even dead for thousands of years we had these really incredible

07:52 Serial just researchers the best in the world that came along starting with george smith and later verified by stephanie daley from university of oxford. And what are the startling things that came out when i actually study those tablets that they translated, wait before zechariah sitchin not to say that he got it all right or anything like that but what is one thing did come up was i would read things like the after his and you mentioned all these incredible terms that We're going around the internet is rumors saying that were true talking in great detail about these sky gods on a knocky and the conversations that they had over. The creation of man and how it became unbalanced in the one destroyer at all these stories about great kings and kingdoms rising empire,

08:41 and all of these things they were all in those tablets and as i started to dig into them quickly realize that there was this incredible lost story, really needed to be known guess that's how we got to the point where today. That is a good summary and I've had guests who maybe are on the more extreme side who have claimed that our primary sources for history are quite sparse. That Vatican monks and archivists have made up a lot of that history out of whole cloth, and i know you're vocal about the manipulation of history but not in this same way

09:19 What can we say about that manipulation and the fact that we probably do have a good amount of seemingly untainted material right. Yeah absolutely so i guess to back up just a little bit from where i was just discussing with you second ago this really all began in eighteen forty nine this entire understanding of, yes early story that was i guess you could say I'm all turd for the most part that is least as old as we could possibly get really when you wanna know the truth of something you have to go to the oldest source someone argue and say well man how can you claim that just because i think it doesn't mean it wasn't altered well there is some clues to that, what we actually study different versions of these tablets so let's go back and start from beginning for those who don't know.

10:13 1849 the greatest library that ever been a mast in the world even greater than the later library of alexandria and egypt. Was known as the ashurbanipal library which was found in the ancient city of nine iraq which is today known as iraq during that time period great empires had emerged in this case, that nina van ashurbanipal library in king ashurbanipal was part of the syrian empire And ashley bonnaparte was an absolutely incredible individual throughout history and i hope that someday these true heroes of our time are recognized. Not just become these footnotes in a very antiquated and largely incorrect timeline the word told where,

11:00 Everything in human civilization emerged roughly six thousand years ago the fertile crescent and then the pyramids of giza were built by the pharaohs of egypt and that whole story we've been given is very antiquated and has a lot holes in it and thats where these tablets come because. When this library is ashley bonnapart libraries found in eighteen forty nine by austin henry layered. They had come down from the university of oxford england and they were at these archaeological digs on covering what they thought we're gonna be clay pots and bricks sand just basic building blocks of a civilization and they found something very different

11:41 They found this massive library of uniform tablets and for those who don't know can afford tablets are stories. Into clay that event baked to preserve them for thousands of thousands of years and those stories because they're actually into play have the ability to not be as weathered Is a brilliant form of writing a brilliant former writing style and so ashley bonnaparte was king of minneapolis who had realized the importance of what was in these tablets. This is the most mind blowing thing he states in his writings when you discuss these that, he wasn't high priest not just a king that had become a king because bloodlines and use ruling because it just was allowed to use actually a high priest that had a lot of knowledge

12:29 And he realized the significance of these tablets and he states that during his time of accumulating this great library. These tablets were already ancient and lost in all these sites around mesopotamia and so he sent his army out Every corner of mesopotamia to all these ancient sites in what is today you know i ran and iraq and syria, all the way through this region any amass this incredible library which became known as the actual library. In that library austin henry layered had uncovered thirty thousand uniform tablets they were then brought up to university oxford and then as a mention later

13:11 Several years later george smith was the first person actually translate them and the epic of gilgamesh with the first one ever translated. What's important about that is so we're gonna say what does it prove that they are genuine well, when you look at the versions in the ashley bundle paul library can you study them you find out that all this version that we have there were known as the samarian versions but there are also babylonian virgins And you see that when you look at stories like the new mail ish the babylonian version of the email ish verses, the syrian what was in a series it was originally sumerian but the syrians found and then kept in their library.

13:53 But essentially that version greatly different from the babylonian version and when you do a little studying in the babylon you find out that the patron god of the babylonian was this god name martin. Or also known as bell and in that version where he's the patron god, he is the one who gets credit for the creation mankind not his father n key from the older versions so what i'm trying to say is There are different versions even of these uniforms tablets where they state different things in them cuz really if you wanted. Your legacy to be preserved and you want me remember you wanna be the great hero bar story right so you would create your own version of it too much the waters so really what this gets down to is,

14:38 We have to find the earliest version of these ancient writings and then cross reference them to later versions to find out what was changed to try to understand this whole thing and that's the same with gnostic writings egyptian writings hindu writings it doesn't really matter as long as you get the most early version have the best translations, do like a cross reference you can separate out what might be no manipulation later on like a lot of modern religion took. many of these stories and woven them into things like the Bible. And we have a very clouded, very deceptive view of a lot of our past because of what later happened.

15:20 Great points you have a real clarity to this pretty complex stuff and these ancient tablets and this ancient story. There certainly on the minds of the elite even recently during the war in iraq the baghdad museum was one of the first things hit, any actions of isis have been pretty devastating to the ancient sites that would be most important to reconstructing the past and of course people are a lot of questions about who controls isis but regardless when you understand the material to the degree that you do why is suppressing it so important to the power structure of today so we had an ancient society before a series of cataclysms destroyed everything so what, why is this information say a threat to the power structures up today.

16:08 Will really that entire story that narrative we can trace back to where began and then i can essentially explain what the purpose of it was. Sure when the roman the roman empire is collapsing, the eastern roman empire eventually turned into a became known as holy roman empire and that occurred around three thirteen ad by this individual name constantine and constantin with. Is your column his handlers realize that The smartest way to control society would be to control the narrative and control the past there's a lot of famous quotes that talk about that is you know those who don't learn from the pastor destined repeated in various other variations of that basically. Like you said what does it matter if u control the pass how does that change anything well it changes everything,

17:01 Because when you start to look into these tablets in your try to put a timeline for when the civilization existed. Can you get into a lot more details you start studying structures they left behind you starting studying the technology knowledge they had, instead of finding this very linear version like we been told by mainstream experts that knowledge was slowly disseminated and then here we are at the peak of it all It's actually the complete opposite we have actually fallen from a time of great height of knowledge back to this point being i would even call it almost got primitive mindset, being very unbalanced compared to what a lot of the ancient cultures understood and so constantine realized hey we really need to do something about.

17:54 This ancient history aspect of humanity or we're not gonna be able to control the narrative and control religion which is what they eventually did is the roman empire in adopting christianity, which had previously been illegal may work killing people over being christians they adopted christianity and that point you saw these religious text become greatly rewritten entire narrative. became you can even say perverted it wasn't just that it was inverted but it was actually. It took the certain terms are gonna get into them things like the serpent things like,

18:29 The caduceus symbol and things like the swastika in a lot of these later symbols by these romans and then the nazis and a lot of other leader cultures, took this ancient symbols in these ancient terms that it once meant very important things and inverted them to their opposite meeting so we exist in this reality today where. It's very difficult for people to accept a lot of this information because we've been so conditioned around having a certain value that's been given to us for everything in life how we feel about the certain thing is essentially told to us, how we should feel you know when i think of something like eagle or the serpent which were gonna get into these famous symbols people automatically have this.

19:14 picture that just comes in their mind and this definition that comes up for what those symbols represent and it was very clever thing they ended up rewriting the entire narrative but i wasn't just rewrite. What did you do will get into this is we go along with that actually went around crusade through these, Ancient civilizations in the found any example that was a pre christian writing and they essentially burned it destroyed or like the vatican archives which is in italy. The beginning of rome they confiscated a lot of those ancient text from around the world, various conquering and they kept them the ones that didn't go along with this narrative just put him in a vault underground and

20:00 For those who don't believe that, I highly recommend they look into the Vatican archives. It's so obvious when you look at this stuff that it's a conspiracy that its almost screaming at you but the first step to take Greg is to be able to accept that we've been lied about a lot of these things and we have to go back and start over again in many cases and try to understand what was being said all along Yes, yes man. It seems like from year one they were pretty efficient at controlling and distorting the story but more material surfaced like in the 1840s as you mentioned and of course today with the internet it's a bit too out there to really keep a lid on if people were only interested enough to explore it and that's kind of

20:46 the weird irony is like how much suppression do they need when people are really not that concerned with this kind of stuff sadly but. But this is a bit of a tangent. Let me also just ask you about energy real quick, we've talked to many guests who think the pyramids were part of an electromagnetic energy grid or even a consciousness elevator of some kind using the ley lines of the earth to draw up energy for global civilization – maybe both? It feels highly speculative and a bit like romanticizing of the ancient past We know from megalithic sites that they were clearly more technologically advanced than the mainstream would suggest but i struggle with the idea. That there was ever really a world not built on top down abusive power and i wanted to be true but what do you see is the best evidence that this was actually the case at some point it wasn't always,

21:43 about manipulation of the masses and top-down control in this caste system that we're so used to, at least in this round of human history. Well the first term I guess we can bring up is... The ancients called these lost civilizations the time period that they existed which is well beyond 10 000 years ago and we can get into that They called that age The Golden Age Because it represented this time period that was very very different than it is now where corruption wasn't nearly as rampant and civilizations were actually built on completely different morals in the are now you brought up the fact that here we are open internet time for people can go and search for whatever they want. But there more interested reality shows in most cases and looking at something violent rather then learning about something that could completely change their lives,

22:39 That has to do with the conditioning mentality of how society has been pushed a certain direction to view things and in most cases people don't even know that this information even exists because. The trick is that you need to do so much suppression on this information before most people get into their minds that it's not real me why is that well today, We think that information in the historically we think that information should come from these mainstream experts is individuals are very top of. Academia who were supposed to tell us what's real and where just the masses and we should just listen well, that aspect of academia in those experts became very corrupted later on

23:27 You can say after this violent period of the younger dry ass where human civilizations had to reemerge and restart themselves again you saw a lot of. Really corrupted elements come into our societies were certain powerful individuals in secret societies realize that hey we can completely control society and entire message through these different means and Basically when we try to go back to a time period that didn't exist that's where we find all of these writings. That's one pieces the evidence behind how we know those civilizations were like that because they left behind extensive records, will they discuss the moral values that existed in their society and how weird just a very corrupted version of those now another great piece of evidence that really proves it if that doesn't do enough is that

24:26 When you look at what is civilization based itself on the values it based on you look at what was left behind from them right so if we were to get wiped out today write massive comment slammed into. North america and cause a dust cloud around the world volcanoes when often we are white out, what would be remembered by well they would find a ton of plastic they'd find all kinds of Things that sort of distract us and take us away from the earth understanding consciousness the universe it seems like we have all these technological things to just distract us. Just keep us occupied with these different little games that are fun on a little tablets in all these things to just,

25:11 keep our time occupied rather than us sitting there and scratch your head to be like i'm sort of bored i wanna pick up a book or i want to go on some internet journey down the rabbit hole to uncover these facts what you find is that he says it's in civilizations didn't have that structure, how we know that will instead of finding those things like i mentioned we find. They build incredibly sophisticated structures that were perfectly tuned to different energies of the earth in certain harmonic frequencies i had to do with. Connecting to higher states of human consciousness and the energy of your we also find that

25:51 Those structures were so sophisticated in their building style that in some ways we can even build them today and that tells you that. They had certain values that are very different than what we share today another good example is most of the civilizations around the world that weekend, identify as being part of these lost civilizations ancient civilizations they had the knowledge that was eventually lost Most of them had these astronomical temples where they were basically. Representations of the heavens the different constellations and some cases even planets of our solar system and these cultures were obsessed with mapping the difference zodiac ages in a procession of equinoxes all these aspects

26:35 That was the focus they understood the importance of these devastating cycles that come through and the significance that they had to play with their time. Here what's the create structures that would maybe allow them to continue in survive and continue the next epic instead of getting destroyed having to start over again so we find, evidence for those civilizations having different morals based on what they built the writings left behind with a set in those writings, along with the types of structures that they wanted to make and we can get into the great pyramid energy as well but i just want to get essential your take on that. Yeah i love it man i think you're making a lot of great points if we had at once maybe we can have again now would be a big reason to suppress it and i think many of us feel

27:27 Quite overdue for a new golden age but i guess yes tell us a little bit more about the pyramids or you know that network of pyramids there far beyond just egypt and your thoughts on them before we dive into the eagle and serpent threads are quite interesting. Okay absolutely now the first thing to get across for those who don't know what i'm sure most people listening notice but for those who dont it's a good place to start, When you're in school and you pick up the rockefeller history book of our past this rewritten version of telling us what's real and what's not we find that. In this is shared by most the mainstream which starting to finally road now they tell us that the pyramids of the world anywhere doesn't matter where it is but especially in egypt, they tell us that pyramid were built so that when a great king or pharaoh dies

28:21 You can be buried there sort of like if you go to a cemetery and you see those large stone. Almost like a bunker structure for someone who is really wealthy and wants to be very that's what we're told people except that very quickly they think okay these are powerful individuals they had unlimited, Resources they could do whatever they wanted right except for the fact that there's never been a pharaoh found in any of the pyramids of giza. History and that's very shocking thing though because it proves that they were built for that reason will some people listening to be like what is that, prove anything if i haven't found just me seven yet well no actually we know all the fair was egypt

29:09 The pre dynastic girls in the dynastic girls and we can get into that what that means they were all buried at the same place they had this designated burial zone place location called. The value of the kings and it was over four hundred miles south of the great pyramids visa so this location these sarcophagi that are all found in these different locations in the valley of the king's We have all of the pharaohs were looking for their there they're accounted for kufu in yet great pyramid gizas called kufu's pyramid he's never been found in there, there's no writings inside kufus this pyramid that state the kufu built it none of that exists except.

29:55 That it was a way where if you have the timeline that only goes out six thousand years for sophisticated human civilization you try to fit in there somewhere don't you so you go ok when did the dynastic egyptians live and they did live during that time period of around four thousand. So then okay we'll just label kufu is the one who built this and then that way we can put into this little model that everybody will just accept well, Once people learned that kufu was never found in there and there's no evidence of kufu ever even built it, and more importantly we know that he didn't build it because of the type of technology that was done in The Great Pyramid. In The Great Pyramid at Giza there are different shafts that point towards different constellations such as Sirius and Orion And above those chambers well above the desert over a hundred feet up are these megalithic blocks that are more than 50 tons per

30:51 perfect granite blocks above the king's chamber that have been built in situated in there by an ancient culture and. Who is time period of the dynastic pharaohs had none of the technology that would even allow building even small parents let alone these magnificent structures now okay so getting past that, We know the ancient older so what's the purpose right when we travel around the world and look at any of these sites that have this mega with advanced technology used to make them seeing drill hole marks, seeing saw cuts on some of these blocks that were so hard they would be impossible during the time period that were told to be carved.

31:38 They are found in the certain locations around the world but they're very specific locations for instance take in south america that you were not who area. The area round like kitty kaka okay that region is very inhospitable to live it's founded over twelve thousand feet elevation There's no trees winds just whip across the landscape it's a very difficult place to live and yet some of the most advanced structures we know about were built there why, well if you look at each one of these ancient areas where was built around the world can you compare to these energetic vortex convergent zones which are part of the earth see the earth is not really the way that we been

32:30 Give me this perception of it being life was rock is sort of close to space and revolves around the sun there's a lot of other things going on there for instance, the earth has its own energetic field that created through basically magnetism. Has a magnetic north and magnetic south pole in the entire earth is balanced through these energy centers And those energy convergent areas are known as ley lines and they represented the places where energy. The ability to harness energy and manipulated is it is greatest in so we find that these structures all around the world are built very close to them not on them, add that evidence for what happened to them though

33:19 That's one of my favorite things when i look at this cuz when you take a lay line map and you plot all these locations around the world you see they're all off by the certain degree all around the world are off in you find that, will you go to these astronomical temples like go back we can't be or menorca. You look at the weather align and you find that there are all off buy about twenty three degrees from magnetic north magnetic north south are awful on it Same thing is true if you try to line those were told this air shafts in the great pyramid of giza like constellations such as canis major and orion, they don't line up anymore there all off by a certain degree what that tells us is. Those structures originally intended to be built on those lines

34:10 Because of disastrous events in the past that shifted those polls and shifted where does lay lines line up now. And those lost civilizations were completely wiped out and we have evidence of their structures being melted in burned and strewn all over the place. We know that there are very very violent cataclysms that basically destroyed these civilization's and even had a potentially like a whole shift in our past, let us having to start over again understand all the things that they already know Yeah man i love this the earth grid shifted and maybe it all powered down. And possibly relates to inevitable cycles of rise and fall that people always talk about it seems to be some kind of,

35:00 Spiritual thing that's baked into our reality and effects are consciousness in the levels of consciousness in which we can achieve and the ease or difficulty, end cultivating those higher levels it is all fascinating stuff. To dive into the eagle and serpent thread this is one of the most fascinating things to me i love the implications of the anunnaki material the enki and endless story, this idea that we were engineered to do the work of the gods give the a gg break. Maybe all that ancient stuff is still a big part of where we are now in this context might be a missing piece so much of what's going on history. That's a setup to maybe get into these symbols of the eagle and the serpent

35:48 Let me read another quote from the book where you say. On a somewhat linear level, the eagle and serpent can be equated to masculine strength and control over the physical world versus following a path of spiritual growth and obtaining higher knowledge. However these symbols have much deeper meanings that can be traced back some in the earliest texts ever written In many ways the eagle and serpent represent the divide that exists between material third-dimensional worlds and nonphysical spiritual realms I love it man we are deep in and now can you tell the people a bit more about these two symbols and what that bigger story might be. Yeah sure everybody always loves this is the most i think the story of n key and lil and eagle serpent, is one of the most profound because it connects to so many things in our lives even today so i guess we had go back a little bit for those who don't know or expand on this area little bit

36:49 There are extensive tablets that tell us the human origin story whether or not you wanna read it in the after he says in the new mail ish or the myth of a dog. And countless other uniform tablets this story, that comes up is basically a story about power struggle here that essentially boils down There's a group of being sky gods they call them that came here they stay the game here and i wanted to create it. Infrastructure for civilization in like you mentioned any gg were considered this lower status being but still godlike them and eventually revolted and they decided that they would create this

37:34 human race based on the compatibility that the hominids on the planet already had with them and so what's actually like the myth of a dog states. Played around and eventually created this being that we are disseminated from now but it originally was almost perfect being originally, is being that some biblical references to call adam or adopt in ancient text This being was perfect in the beginning but it wasn't supposed to be the idea in the tablets with that and lillian key which are brothers got dual ownership over this round here they were both in charge of maintaining a and they took different roles within that.

38:22 Governing structure okay so i need this master mastermind basically greatest of the in terms of understanding the cosmos and. Everything he decided to create this worker that will head asked to be created an auto, but instead of like i said just being a primitive worker you create this perfect being well this is where this great divide began When you read the secret book of john in the not commodity scriptures which is a nasty text that came out of a cave on the nile river and nineteen forty five nineteen forty four nineteen forty five it states. That essentially some of these beings these are not became greatly threatened by this perfect being that i can create their image

39:14 And that was us and because of jealousy over the fact that we could become potentially greater than them someday since we are in many ways down. Is that how our genetics were eventually created through sacrificing this god can you who is basically head of the gg to create mankind, These two brothers had dual ownership became greatly divided over how they wanted humanity run and how they wanted our future to be. And these two symbols really get down to a lot of different levels okay picture if you will complete polarity of, two beings one of them loves us cuz he created us fell in love with his creation and wants us too

40:06 advance and become our true potential in life and the way to do that is you not conquer the physical world but you understand what a culture of told us all along this trip tech doorway. Do you see around the world these ancient sites those doors you see three doors representing three things that religion later corrupted it's the idea of this connection in this Crossing of mind body and soul the three aspects that can turn us into our highest potential okay but the body to be this vessel that were in house consciousness it has to be balanced with each other. The mine body and soul must be in balance to build a reach higher states what because that blueprint is known the idea was that and others who are jealous

41:04 Like i mentioned in the secret book of john this figure who's really jealous over this early man he even states in that. I encourage people to read that she stays in there because of jealousy mankind was thrown into lowest form of matter possible so you have this being that has all these divine properties that are connected to the on and off key instead of existing in a state where we can, Alchemically change our environment and create things out of our own imagination were thrown in this world of chaos of war and division and. Constant distraction deception the keep us in these lower states and so basically what these symbols really represent

41:49 Is this divide that emerged between n key and l in how human civilizations and the collective of humanity would turn out how they be covered how the values that would make up their society will be covered okay, what you find it completely blew my mind when i was able to connect these things instead of them really is one of those moments where you sit outside and go oh my god makes so much sense. When you look around the world at empires throughout history any civilization that was based on conquering doesn't matter if you wanna go from the romans to. The nazis to the soviets in eventually united states this, conquering mentality always followed with a flag request of an eagle always ok every time

42:44 What yet were told in its thrust down our throats subconsciously seems like a daily basis that the eagle is this symbol of freedom and balance being, i state society where you have all the values of a perfect system right. And then were told that the serpent the symbol of the. The serpent dragon or this evil evil symbols and they represent basically deception in evil all these things and quickly you realize that those symbols have been completely turned on their head, did they completely inverted and a story of the civilizations and empires tells that story so well and so what it gets down to for those who haven't connected yet

43:29 any symbol all the way back from the beginning they actually had multiple symbols but one of the main symbols that he was reference with what is the serpent and also the dragon. Meanwhile and lil had this symbol of eagle now what did that what does it mean right people come up to me like mad i really love you because i mean i have to stop enjoying watching them fly over my head tell them no course not, these symbols have nothing to do with these creatures has to do with representing certain things for instance an eagle is the highest flying bird of all. Okay and the eagles known to swoop down in attack its prey so those types of symbols, became what was used to represent the different mentalities for instance in egypt it was an ancient god there notice both he had a head of an ibis

44:25 But that wasn't a literal thing you didn't really have the head of an ibis, that was just a symbol to show him being this patient teacher. I've been kind and thats how a lot of these symbols became woven into a lot of these ancient murals in cylinder seals with a show, please representations of his on and off individuals some of them have eagle heads Some of them have regular human heads some other kinds of heads as well and they all represent the symbols now and will his sons like ninurta and others,

45:01 There develop this great rift is great divide between these beings over how we would be covered like i said some are jealous of us reaching higher states in some of them wanted to retire state so what you find. Is it ancient cultures all around the world from north and south america for instance in the maya The god of the maya that gave them wisdom and knowledge of the heavens not blood sacrifice in war which we get into, but one that gave them knowledge of the heavens and balance of the earth that god was known as coco con and he was a great serpent dragon got. Down to the south in the aztec their great wisdom god that brought them knowledge of heavens was known as quetzalcoatl and it was another serpent dragon god same thing okay, and then we get down in the south america and we find that there's another serpent dragon got down there called amaruka or amaru. And then you go across

45:58 Egypt you see the pre dynastic pharaohs and even some of the dinastic girls with a serpent on their forehead. Representing knowledge and then we get over in india we see this worship of, this kundalini serpent and then in japan and china we see an ancient worship of the dragon But then later on all those cultures get either corrupted or conquered and then we see this other symbol start to emerge it's the symbol of eagle and one of the things that it was most. Telling to me and i encourage people if they're ever able to travel to see this but a very popular site known as chichi needs in the mayan area

46:45 You walk around you see kukakons temple which with the serpents that represent the knowledge of the bottom in a staircase link at the top and everyone staring at that and thats amazing right but there's other things there, most people never see and i remember being there and having studying this information looking for clues about if it remained in these cultures in other places as well And i didn't really expect what i was gonna find snooping around and a day was almost hundred degrees in this all kinds of tourists snapping pictures. There's this area called the temple of jaguars that's off to the side and people just walk by it they don't care walk right by it, and i remember saying there being like amazing looking at it and none of this army of tourist were looking at nobody care

47:33 What i saw on it that really blew my mind knowing what i had known and looking for these symbols was that here you had kooka the symbols of coco con with such a look like god human. With snakes all emanating from him in he was there and it was this basically this representation of the story, will win into the rock they'd carved the story out of the symbols and coco con is there with other serpents in it but then later Down in this progression of the stories and the symbol there's a eagle. And he got a human heart or also known as the seed of knowledge is well it depends on how you want to interpret that simple he's eating it, he's eating this either the seat of knowledge or human hardest some of called it in his mouth now what we find with the my and cultures they were eventually corrupted

48:30 And they turned into warring empires that were sacrificing thousands of people to these dark arts and people quickly jump all over the fact that kookaburra conical with the ones that then corrupted them. But doesn't make any sense because when you read my codex is in your go into ancient as tech writings, you find it no these quetzalcoatl and cuckoo con gods firmly state in those writings that they're very much against practices and that they actually had left these cultures, there was other influences the came later so quickly what i found around the world was that.

49:09 It wasn't just that the symbols were representing just knowledge versus conquering but they were even getting as deep as some of the influences of what i believe worthy on anarchy. Influencing these cultures in certain ways and i just wanna bring up one more quick thing greg, When i was studying who was this blood sacrifice god of the maya in the stage of time extensively talk about this i found that there is just god damn god l. In the miami who was the one that they were talking all about and connecting with these symbols of war and blood sacrifice, end this god l

49:49 You didn't have the symbol of a serpent of the dragon it had the symbol of the eagle and jaguar that's why the area mentioned was called the temple the jaguars because, the story that was most echoed later what is this corrupted story of this eagle that. Corrupted all these cultures and woven its way in and i then said okay well then god l has a symbol of the eagle and. The jaguar and it's got a death war what kind of samarian god had those symbols can you find that there is a god known as your call which was one of the sons of who became a god of underworld, of death though not acknowledging reincarnation but of death

50:33 And it starts to all connect with this story about how there are so many influences and so many things going on behind the scenes that we don't fully understand that. It became the framework for why i called my second book stage of time because its like where on this stage here, the stage of expression role playing different roles What were like actors on the stage there all being puppeteered to have a certain type of outcome based on these two different sides and i just wanna mention one more thing. It can get is deep into as talking about bloodlines as well, i know people want me to mention that because n key in l ended up

51:18 Having sexual relations with human women because they were supposedly so incredibly beautiful and those bloodlines became known as the serpent bloodline in the eagle blood lines and that's, the other reason why these civilizations were fighting so much over what blood line and what mentality would rule them. Because these symbols in what they represent they cover so many different levels of understanding that ultimately became Do you already in our reality okay either the serpent which is knowledge and spiritual connection to the feminine energy of creation. Or this masculine energy of conquering our world destroying everything that's what these two things really represent and these gods essentially on a god

52:11 Because they were so divided these two symbols came to basically represent nearly every ancient civilization up until our present. Wow man yes this really resonated with me i do love trying to unpack the sections and in versions, and just add some layers to this real quick first thing i was thinking about is how we have the weird story in evolution that the dinosaurs reptiles became birds it's just a weird thing but we also as you mentioned earlier with demon eyes, delete as reptilians and maybe even as distortion because they seem way more aligned with the eagle

52:52 I copied this down from your book, but you say even in Greek mythology the god Poseidon with his three-pronged trident is frequently connected to the symbol of the serpent while his counterpart Zeus is connected with a symbol of the eagle. Both of these Greek gods were likely incarnations or personas of the earlier Mesopotamian gods played by Enki and Enlil Evidence for this can be seen in the various depictions and statues of Enki which clearly portray him holding a trident, one of his most cherished symbols. That's why it is so fascinating to discover that the religious entity known as Satan or The Devil is almost always shown as an evil being from hell who was wielding a pitchfork

53:33 But was he really evil or is there more to the story? An objective analysis of the evidence reveals that the pitchfork is clearly the inversion of Enki and his trident, representing the role he eventually took on in The Underworld. And that's amazing! In the book you also go on to tie it into Saint Patrick driving the quote-unquote snakes out of Ireland aka the Druids and we can look at certain entities by their fruits whatever the vatican is worshiping his a dark dark thing so even today it's like if you get confused by who's aligned with which symbol just look at, there are actions and i definitely don't wanna be associated with whatever the vatican worshipping and.

54:19 It also manifests in a strange way. Even today, obviously the American empire utilizes the eagle but then we have that sort of libertarian rebel flag that's barely in use anymore that's basically just a poorly drawn snake and saying don't tread on me I mean BAM it's right there again so...I'm not sure how much this is conscious even though people tend to drift towards using these symbols even after centuries What would you say about that interplay between the conscious and subconscious when it comes to the use of this imagery? Is there an aspect of how the influences of higher realms manifest into the physical, like what are your thoughts on that interplay in the mechanics of how these things end up still being a big part of life. Yeah That was well said Greg I appreciate that let me expand on a couple of those things

55:18 evidence for connecting this so people understand what are the oldest pieces we have is a uniform tablet called the legend of a ton ok. Now what time was considered the first king this is what it states in the tablets he was considered the first came after the deluge. After this new civilization would emerge out of ashes of its former self he was chosen which is what he stays in the tablet to be there shepherd or architect of the new world, Which is mind blowing to think about it wasn't just that he was the shepherd of just his kingdom no actually states that the city that you would rule over known as kish which some of those rooms are still around today. Would be the very first city that was built and created after these events destroyed everything now what's important about that i connected all legal in the serpent

56:19 In the later part of the tablet he goes on to explain in this very well i guess this parable this symbolic metaphorical type of way he goes on describe how. The system we have here in terms of duality was created in states that there is this eagle who had this half brother who is the serpent and the eagle basically comes along in it ask him if they can be friends if they could work together. And this serpent reluctantly agrees states that would work with them as long as it didn't betray him and was always true and as you go on its dates that the eagle ended up completely betraying the serpent end,

57:10 When to reside up in heaven and the serpent was forced it says intricate to reside down in the underworld or below taking on these certain roles in reality really mind blowing for us even wrap our heads around how something like that could happen but. It makes a lot of sense if you think about the idea of if there are higher and lower dimensions in different realms to our reality we only perceive largely one dimension the third dimension physical world. That's what is most of representation of what reality is but they're all these different rounds and dimensions aspects of our reality that we can't receive, any have to do with energy cycles and things like reincarnation and

57:58 Ascension all of these different aspects of what the ancients told us. Well in that tablet and other places it states that not only were these beings in charge of them. But they literally were sent to rule over the different rounds so and lil, was given the physical world and higher dimensions thats why he became known as the symbol with eagle because she was flying high above and essentially observing everything higher dimension higher awareness perception of everything whereas

58:33 Enki the serpent was tricked into ruling in the underworld this is how we can unfold these layers to understand them so if i think he's tricking the rolling on the world but he's been a villain being. And then and will is my neverland, Adds above so below states that everything has to be balanced. That's the rule of their obsessed with this balance so therefore and will became a control of the higher dimensions in the physical world, and will was assigned to rule essentially in the underworld hence say hell so hell is essentially underworld where death and reincarnation occurs and heaven or higher dimension is essentially

59:22 That's how those religious terms came to come about so and keep in his teachings related demon eyes and that's why i saw many of the symbols became inverted these cultures were corrupted later on. The eagle essentially through its cleverness and others realize that based on the different, zodiac ages in the types of energies that were allowed in the types of polarities that they could basically rule over and conquer entire reality And that's how we became where we are today is that after these cataclysms occurred some of these beings cleverly took over and we essentially became trapped in the state where spirituality understanding higher knowledge was pushed off and almost destroyed stamped out by these, emissaries like the roman empire that went around just found all these ancient texts and rewrote the entire story

1:00:19 Think about how did the roman empire control its population through things like fear and violence with gladiator games in distractions to keep people focused on a certain type of conditioning, a certain type of mentality. And that's essentially how those individuals became reference to who they are and i want to point out strongly that these beings seem to have played different roles throughout different times but i had a hard time finding any time period where and low has played a positive role it seems as though because of his jealousy in through some of the means which we came to be that things became very unbalanced eventually even though they were obsessed with balance. Somehow they found a way to make it on balanced in order to keep humanities consciousness,

1:01:17 Essentially trapped in a certain state and will get into that when we get the suppression of consciousness those two symbols came to truly represent this great divide that emerged within humanity over these two different paths and the different bloodlines associated with them. Can you find that with tablets like the other cases how. What is this letter also known as a sutra in other tablets was just great flood hero king of shrew pack and he was warned of the great catastrophe coming because she was a bloodline event key, it's ok brookley old that and i had forced him to make did not tell me any humanity about this coming cyclical disaster

1:02:01 But he did you want him and that's one of the reasons why that entire family tree lived in survived so what you find is that these layers just expand out to so many different things i'm understanding. The influences of eagle serpent that it really represents the duality of our reality, how we ended up in a place today where like you mentioned the eagle has largely corrupted our world when we exist in this state of Mostly obsessiveness over the physical world and conquering in materialism war division. And less about understanding balance with our world understanding balance with the universe what we really are this spiritual being that's having a physical experience in his body not the other way around and thats great divide emerged

1:02:49 Yes man and it is wild that when we see the symbols together it's usually the eagle dominating the serpent and we certainly have imbalance today and maybe thats why today's elite are talking so much about a great reset could play into that. And man i just can't believe it is been a full hour already you know, i will get comments that will say that with everything going on in twenty twenty why would i choose a topic like this yet so many people are looking at the landscape today and seeing this as a crucial time maybe thats always kinda true

1:03:29 But we can see the scaffolding being built right now for a technocratic dystopia, the same thing we've been cautious of for years. And this idea of a fork in the road for humanity is very potent right now and I like when you say in the stage of time each person must decide what role they wanna play hero villain or where most people actually are has just extras in the background. Mainly because there just unaware of their place in the world and how fitting we talked about the truman show a little bit but,

1:04:04 What would you say to try to inspire people out of being just extras and make them see that they do have more influence and power than they might have been conditioned to believe. Yeah i think that really gets down to the heart of all this too, mislead people to think their actions in their contributions mean nothing Rather than realizing that we're all creators here. We really are we are all here and we have the ability to think of an idea concept whatever it is in turn into reality that's how were creators here okay so therefore,

1:04:47 If we're made to believe and we actually are i couldn't believe once i started to dig into ancient studies and understanding her medic text what we are in how we contribute to everything this collective here where that ship of collectiveness goes. I couldn't believe when i realized that everything that we do has impact your everything even the smallest thing i started to realize that concept of quantum mechanics where the butterfly effect the idea in chaos theory how we can have some action take place, where you can ripple out and affect so many more things than we realize because were not able to perceive all the different ways that are actions ripple out. You know that little stone is thrown into the pond

1:05:41 That maybe makes a small impact first but the ripples afterwards extend far beyond what those initial impacts were. What we often don't stick around or have the ability to receive how those impacts ripple out in effect of those around us, if we were to realize that then all the sudden that stage. That's stage of time reach playing a role here like shakespeare says i would be realized Can you imagine if people truly understood how their actions can contribute to this entire story in someone like you was to never do this podcast. You ever started it you never talk to anybody you never get just took a different path in life,

1:06:23 How many different people would never be impacted by some of the topics you discuss on here some of the individuals that you bring on to. Expand our awareness of things and ask those important questions i need to be asked to try to ponder those answers we, Have difficulty seeing the magnitude of our actions but in reality. Where is your playing certain roles in this collective story and in many cases we don't even realize which role were playing because we have it identified the fact that, we are that important enough and we are not a legal to single things saying like humans you know where they most important thing in the entire universe that's not really what i'm saying

1:07:10 What i am saying is that ancient text state that we are very important in terms of the grand scheme of where this story of our planet and free will and consciousness goes, we are experiment they stay when experimenting consciousness and having. The divinity of a god be in a physical mortal body that dies and then we have This grand stage being played out here that's been puppeteered by certain individuals and the game is to make us unaware that our actions really matter at all. But really like i stayed in the book and like you mentioned a second ago,

1:07:46 The whole story revolves around the extras because that's the collective story of humanity but in between that there are these heroes and villains they're playing really important roles. And once we can identify that our actions really matter or contributing in some important way we can assume one of those archetypes you know what are we gonna be how we get remembered if greg carlwood dies in the future, How will he be remembered is gonna remember in a positive way in a negative away and how are those contributions that he made how was going to ripple out an effect this entire story. Because really it doesn't come down to celebrities have millions of twitter followers who just discussed what kind of outfits they wanna wear and who their vote for,

1:08:35 That's not who is really making the difference here it's the ones on the front lines like you, who are pushing this paradigm forward and asking these difficult questions in identifying all of these different things. I just don't make any sense without reality what were told really makes me sad when i see the way that humanity has been governed and has been shepherd. In this way where we matter not at all and watch Some movie like me at the gates when the soviet are just charging stalling grad and getting mode down like they matter nothing there just a little. Extra little animal that can be sacrifice for no reason at all but really when you look it on grand scheme of things we are these incredible beings that are being used for all these terrible ways in were, being manipulated to really not understand what we really are and how important we are to this entire story

1:09:31 Cheers to that man i definitely thought that would be a good capstone of this whole thing a good way to end and i personally. Oscillate between feeling like i could do more and then sometimes being satisfied with my role now when compared to the, beast serving mall store retail management hell scape that i grew out so Yeah it's a tricky stuff but i did really love this so much information and you are great example to people that they really can just pick anything that they are interested in and dive in until their next bird, make that there bread and butter should definitely be proud is very impressive yes and before i cut loose tell the people where they can follow up get in touch and anything else she might have coming down the pike.

1:10:26 Absolutely thank you so much i really appreciate everyone that supports my work i still have a full time job i do this because i know how important it is. And like you mentioned earlier on people can find my work through the stage of time dot com as well as my youtube page and matthew lecroy, end the two books i've written illusion of us in stage of time which i do have some pretty exciting announcements coming out for those as of today i actually have gone through the entire overhaul all of the illusion of us, First time in quite a long time several years and i released as of today the third edition of the illusion of us with a lot of updates. And then it's well about to release second edition of this stage of time and including with that announcement will come the full audio, other stages time for all those individuals done professionally for all those individuals who don't really read that often without have time and they really prefer audio

1:11:28 i wanted to help a lot of those individuals out by doing that so those are just a couple announcements as well the last thing i just want to stay is that. I'm really excited for those who don't know i am in the middle of writing a new book with co-writing with billy carson it's called the epic humanity and it is an attempt by us, you preserve these ancient text in what they state about our entire story so that he can be Hopefully protected into the future so we don't keep losing so much of this important information so i thank you so much greg i really appreciate sitting down having this conversation with you. Beautiful yes it was a blast and i really have enough questions left on my outline to get there whole nother show maybe we run it back when the new book hits the shelves but until then great stuff keep doing what you do and take care out there thanks bud appreciated

1:12:22 Yes, people! Talk about a guy who knows what he's talking about. Matt LaCroix A highly recommended guest and I'm happy that I was finally able to get him on His work is pretty impressive and it is such a simple formula too Just learn something you're curious about Digest until you are a buff Write some books Do some podcasts Bada bing bada boom And have a nice little life carved out for yourself Not that it's easy and its obviously similar to what a lot of our guests have decided to do with their lives but i guess im just so impressed that he decided hey i'm actually gonna go and read all these old tablets people talk about, multiple translations see how it all fits together and then i'll know for sure what i think about this.

1:13:12 In fact i've been doing a few rounds of interviews myself on other podcasts in like ten days time i did america quite frankly freeman isaac wise pops podcast those conspiracy guys and the cult of nick. I appreciate them all for allowing me to come on and talk about terrain theory and all that stuff but the point is i run into a few people and having these conversations that will come at me with, I hear what you're saying but i just don't know and it's like well you can know if you want to, if your not sure about something and your curious and think it might have merit keep learning until you either throw away cuz it wasn't what you thought or realize that has value. And you know like the back of your hand clearly doesn't happen overnight but anyone can do that with any subject or follow any particular passion

1:14:08 I just appreciate Matt cuz he does that at a high level his books are well written in his site is well designed. Any makes me excited about material that i'd kinda put back on the shelf for a few years and i didn't expect to be actively interested in the anarchy story again so soon like i was for this, eagle and the serpent stuff was pretty killer too. And i think after the heavy hand of the last show we did around here, we could all use something else but the energy around a major fork in the road for humanity is pretty potent. It seems like when we have these cosmic windows of opportunity is when were hit with so much fear and distraction that we don't act and we lose it

1:14:58 many great sources are saying that this is a big one and i think looking at these sorts of perspectives on the past, can push us towards the idea that maybe something better is possible. And just because we would appreciate a great reset doesn't mean we have to sign onto there's you know if you like the first hour in the plus show we talked about How a person could use the more positive potent symbols once they're identified bloodlines are h negative blood and the hidden story there. Planet x no beer and separating out the disinformation he does actually have a great image from the nineteen eighty seven science and invention encyclopedia on his website that shows planet x and binary star which just adds to the whole angle,

1:15:51 We also got into mysteries of the cosmos and life in the universe, The Truman Show and The Dog Star. i had a real sophie's choice as we're going to this interview do. I ask him about the eagle and the serpent stuff or do i asked him about the rh negative bloodline stuff cuz like it tell us that time was taken we rolling in a slide one of those things into the first hour, we have done a show about the rh negative bloodline before he was so long ago and so popular and provocative it was very tempting to try to throw it back in the mix but We went eagle and serpent because obviously that was quite interesting and also new. I try to make a complete show for both the free and plus listeners but at the end of day, full 2 hour interview is where it's at. But either way this was just a good show for digging into awe and wonder of the mysterious cosmos and what life is even about You didn't manifest here to hate 5 days a week posing as insurance salesman

1:16:55 Be an expert or an advocate, or an artist for whatever you're driven towards. Yes it's easy for me now to say oh find your thing and abundance will follow but I can only draw off my own experience And anyone who has followed the Hireside Chats from the early days would have a hard time finding some advantage that I had that makes my situation unique. I just fear not to get into it the cost to participate in traditional american society is getting quite high and i would like to see more people be independent or move in that direction so even on a show like today i would like to. Take a minute to at least put that out there because the more control an independence you have over your own life the more choice you have as to what level are you willing to participate but thats for another time,

1:17:53 I'm just hoping Matt as an example and the material of the day itself inspires some of you to go for it. It's a process, but maybe this will give you a little fuel. Sign up for The Higher Side Chats Plus on my website if you like what i do get the two hour episodes five each month plus the joint session bonus show the forums A very long and robust catalog, $8.00, cancel anytime but help me help you I think we've been on a roll lately and doing a decent job of covering the spread of topics. We like around here you also get a decent list of things on the bonus content page including all the parody songs that i end episodes with, and we got a fresh one today again done in collaboration with the one and only Lauren Silva aka Monty The Artist! I'm a big fan of The Mysterious Greys when we did a couple episodes back

1:18:52 And this one is just more simple and fun i remember seeing reruns of the greatest american hero come on tv and always like the theme song more than the actual show, and i liked it even more when it was george kastanza's answering machine but its also a new song for me to end the show with. Some I like to be pretty specific on, lyrically. But it's also good to have a few broad ones that i can fit into any episode that isn't about weather weapons or hiding out in the bunker or magic etc etc So Lauren Silva thanks again big thanks to Matthew LaCroix TheStageofTime.com is his website and a big thanks to all of you guys who keep the faith in me and what im doing around here

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