Jeff Harman | The Energies in 2023, The 4 Worlds, & The Multidimensional Matrix Of The Soul

00:04 Alright people, I'm gonna make this quick but for the next six weeks or so starting February 1st. I'm putting all my show outlines up for auction I've mentioned before that i have a very strict routine for preparing for and recording THC episodes, and part of that process 95% of the time going back many years has been waking up early on the days i record and compiling my notes into a roughly 4-6 page outline that i print out and conduct interviews from as a template. I write in the margins, cross stuff out as we go along and jot things down that I don't want to forget. And usually have a good deal of material in these outlines that never even makes it to air. When a show is done, put a little staple up in the corner and throw them into filing cabinets. Well its no secret im trying to move and what better time than try collect some extra cash and offload a box of stuff I've been storing...that I dont need!

01:01 So, I'm signing, listing and auctioning off all the outlines I have to any listeners who might be interested in that kind of thing. Each one is totally unique with its own markings, coffee stains, beer spills, printing imperfections, typos and maybe even doodles in some cases...that were never really supposed to be seen by anyone else but…I guess that's no big deal I know, personally, I've bought signed scripts before and some of my most prized possessions are band set lists I nabbed at the end of concerts. So maybe this is something like that for podcasts? If you're into it they will be listed on eBay.com Yeah, I know! ebay.com slash USR slash higher side chats

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02:37 Alright, and that said in more ways than one let's get this show on the road. Enjoy! Here we go, Hireside Chatters from sunny San Diego. I'm Greg Carlwood and it looks like my world's on fire How about yours? Because instead of a government that's working on a single thing to lift people up they're preoccupied with manifesting every element and deepest desire of the technocratic control freak class

03:38 Converting companies to subscriptions and product rentals over any actual ownership, continuing to attack high-quality animal foods and offer you lab made processed garbage. Silently suppressing critics memory holing journalists in locking out academics over voicing the slightest resistance phasing out energetic optionality in your life in exchange for highly metered and controllable electric everything, foaming at the mouth over the prospect of another great war. Throwing more of your income into a big piggy bank to be enthusiastically snatched up by the fistful like kids rushing a busted piñata to fund all these various nightmares and a news media whose only stories seem to be about justifying all these objectives

04:22 But in times like these, it's important to get insight from anywhere that still offers it. And for me that means going to those who read between the lines and see the deeper structures of our reality and few do it like today's returning guest astrological and spiritual consultant Jeff Harmon. Jeff was first here about six months ago. And because I liked to inquire about the energies and astrological signposts on the road ahead at least somewhere near the start of a new year for 2023, Jeff is our guy He's been putting out a lot of great stuff on his YouTube channel and is still doing personal readings, relocation astrology, Vedic planetary gemology and casting charts for those interested at jeffharman.com And let's see what he sees the esoteric energy reader ancient knowledge extractor and space weather meteorologist extraordinaire Jeff my man welcome back Hey thanks for having me Greg

05:16 Yes, it is an honor man. As I said in that intro there, I like to do an astrology of the coming year show as we turn a new page but some of the ones i've talked to before seem like they wanted to keep their distance from me since the COVID years and others whose work I really like in other areas, seem like they had some pretty big misses in their previous forecasts. But I think you're right in the Goldilocks zone for us accurate and not afraid to get raw and bold with the truth so I appreciate you coming back let's start with a little reminder for people as to the systems you use and what they can offer us

05:55 Yeah, I mean again, I got into this in the mid-70s and I was a skeptic. You know? I really started out in a whole different world than astrology and when I first got exposed to it, I thought come on did this stuff even work well! It became apparent to me that this truly is an ancient science. See, modern astrology really got off track from the 1700s forward—not that all of it doesn't have some value—but it's really love light and cluelessness, all this sun sign stuff. When you look at our founding fathers particularly Thomas Jefferson Benjamin Franklin and so many others they were really in and aware of the esoteric energies that come on the world

06:41 And this stuff goes back to antiquity. And most of your astronomers that we heard about in the Middle Ages were really astrologers. In fact, that's what they call it was astronomy and that's what attracted me because it's a geometric science and when you get back into India and the Vedantic and the Tibetan stuff and Egyptian and Chaldean this was truly astronomy this isn't a bunch of sun sign stuff This was looking at the heavens and extrapolating to events on the earth And, you know, kings and queens and generals use this stuff throughout history—and still do. The New One World Order right now… I've been saying when we saw 9-11 come in—I'll never forget it! I was on the phone with a friend of mine, a Wall Street astrologer, and I said to

07:31 We're going to see something happen here anytime." We had a Saturn-Pluto opposition. Sure enough, the next day the towers came down like sparklers from jet fuel and so did Building 7. And then the banks crashed in 2008-'09 and everyone was saying to me for years, Chef what do you think of the Mayan calendar in Nibiru? I said not too much right. I said I'm really seeing more 2020 is the one we want to watch it forward from man look what's happened Yeah, as you said then last time the Jupiter Saturn conjunction on the winter solstice of 2020 that pretty much opened the window for the COVID up and the ball just keeps rolling. And to put a finer point on the systems you use I believe you've said ancient Nadi astrology is one of the main systems you lean on? I know you do some like casting of charts that is kind

08:27 almost divinatory and a certain type of... There's no question about it. Yeah, it's called interrogation in India they call it prashna Interrogations the word I was looking for Yeah, it's literally—that was probably one of the oldest types of astrology. Clearly India and the entire Egyptian, Chaldean and medieval worlds use that still use today. And it literally proves the universe is an interactive consciousness where you can ask a chart anything from Where's my cat? to Will I win this lawsuit? You know so it's pretty wild stuff! Even in medical analysis, It's quite interesting because I can't practice medicine

09:06 But I tell you, I actually consulted and worked with a lot of different people. Particularly even some surgeons and doctors who have said this is interesting stuff because we follow procedure all the time but we find certain days it just doesn't go too good. And I'm going well yeah look at the energy you went in on! Yeah. And iIm getting a lot of feedback from different sources that they agree with it So, you know there's more than just linear logic and procedure. Not that linear logic and procedures isn't important because you have to use both common sense—and look at this more for what it is energy

09:43 Right, right. And even just the yearly Llewellyn astrological calendar that I pick up every year it even has planting and fishing It's like the whole system does have various cycles. I like the way you put it The universe is an interactive consciousness. It does seem to be that succinct really but the further you go back It's so surprising that the more detailed and specific their concepts for really complex and unseen aspects of reality seem to be, they really were. But in terms of the modern world today with so many things being thrown at us right now, balloons being shot out of the sky, demonic rituals center stage at the Grammys crisis in Ukraine and all that. What are some of the big things on your radar that you actually do see reflected in these celestial energies now and a few steps more down the road this year? Yeah well

10:38 I want to refine something. COVID came in really on the Saturn-Pluto conjunction, which was right in January of 2020 That confluence with the 240-year Saturn Jupiter conjunction, which was at the end of 2020 on the winter solstice—because remember COVID came in at the beginning of 220 and this other aspect, the very powerful Jupiter Saturn conjunction came in at the end of 2020. Really ushered in a new era and it's interesting talking about the country

11:16 I've become quite enamored lately with the Constitution. In fact, they actually have a copy of it here and i encourage everyone to get the Constitution of the United States you know A lot of religions have said all the nations are evil well if you read The Constitution You don't need an IQ above room temperature To come up with real quick that was for the betterment Of all humanity And they can say what they want about the Masons. I'm not here defending anyone or the Masons, but I am saying that document is quite profound and I don't think there's ever been another document that we know of in modern history at least that equals it. It's really quite interesting because George Washington was actually fighting for the British in 1762

12:01 And there was a lot of mystery around this. And that was another great fire conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn. Now, if anybody's listening they're all gonna say well wait a minute he's wrong! Jupiter and Saturn conjunct every 20 years. Well you'd be right about that they do conjunct approximately every 20 years but we're not talking about that if you go back to the flood of Noah these were called The Great Conjunctions and approximately every thousand because years don't equal planetary alignments in astronomy. There is what we call the Great Conjunctions, and it's believed—and I've certainly seen it in history—that great changes happen. Well that's exactly what was happening when the Revolutionary War started and the Declaration of Independence was signed right around that time…not exactly but very close to it.

12:54 A lot of people don't know this, but George Washington was fighting and every officer with him—and many of the men were all killed. And he had bullet holes in his coat and his hat, and he had two horses shot out from underneath them, and he didn't have a bullet hole in them. Now that's very mysterious because later an Indian chief ran into Washington many years later about 15-20 years later and said you know we saw great spirit above And we tried to shoot you, and we know we were putting bullets right into you. You didn't go down." There was all kinds of mysticism surrounding the Founding Fathers—people may have heard of Thomas Paine. Thomas Paine wrote articles called Common Sense. He came over and he really awakened the colonists to the shafting that they were getting from the crown with all the taxes and everything.

13:49 Fast forward to today, why am I telling everybody all this? Well in a way—I'm not defending Elon Musk but in a way—I really look at him as kind of a modern-day Thomas Paine because he's been exposing the lies that we all knew were true. And now we actually have proof of it with the Twitter dumps and the coercion and manipulation that's been going on. So in 2020, we had these two powerful, powerful energies, and that was the COVID ruse—and I'm not saying COVID wasn't real. What I am saying is they used it. These new One World Orderers know when these energies happen. They're very aware of it.

14:31 I had a teacher once that used to do astrology for one of the Rothschilds, and he told me—he said they do not make major moves unless they know the timing is right. And I can tell you they knew the timing was right in 2020! Then at the winter solstice of 2020 which was right at the end we know what happened. We saw the fiascos going on in the political scene with the elections and all the coercion and the tearing up of every executive order, and then bringing in this whole new fascist regime that has been pretty much destroying the country.

15:07 So, we had on the winter solstice a new what they call mutation conjunction. That's a fancy word that just simply means a new era has started and they knew this and this is why we're seeing the smoke being blown up our rear ends about you know you got to get rid of your gas stove and everything is destroying the planet When you look back through history, the Grand Solar Minimum people might be right. I think we're actually heading into a colder phase right now with erratic weather and it's largely due to the sun but yet we see articles every day with some genius with a bunch of letters behind their names telling us that it's you causing it with the farting cows in the SUVs and I really think they're utilizing this when you analyze what's happening to this country

15:57 It's really kind of sad. I mean, they're not only flooding the borders with a lot of very questionable people and terrorists, they're also strategically funding and planting people all over this country in places of power that are causing major dissension uprooting the structures of this country in more ways than we'll ever know. And then George Washington might have said it best, he says if you want to really destroy a country loot the treasury and that's exactly what they're doing and this fits the astrology not only of The Times because people say well yeah but COVID is over now see we entered in area of fascism combined with high-tech

16:43 You could say revolution coming in all into 20. So the effects of this could last decades, it may be indelible—may last forever! So we're in a really new era and the other thing is the United States birth chart most astrologers take the birth of the United States from the signing of the Declaration of Independence The date, obviously is July 4th 1776. Most astrologers use one time or another I used something called the Sibley chart it was recorded by a man named Ebenezer Sibley that's why we call it the Sibley chart he claimed that somewhere around 5 10 p.m the boys were dipping their quill pens into the ink wells and signing the declaration That's when it commenced so using that chart

17:37 I can tell you the United States right now is under the most powerful destructive energies it has ever been under. That's called a Pluto return, plus it has progression. See in astrology your eyeballs cross—it's kind of complex but... It's all just geometric aspects and there are what we call progressions and transits right now that are stuff I've never seen on this country. This country won't be here as we know it in two years by the end of 24, or it's going to be the phoenix rising out of the ashes and it fits reality. Look what's happening!

18:18 Right, right. I heard you on Quite Frankly with my buddy Frank there talking about January 17th—obviously we've passed that—but Saturn was going over the U.S. moon if I remember correctly and that's... No no no! That's actually March 11 is when it happens in the Sidereal Zodiac Oh okay well i don't remember what might have was going on on January 17 but It seemed like there was some kind of shift that signified an economic slowdown. And I was going to say that, yeah it seems like the first month of the year has been about mass layoffs across tech across banking and media companies sectors. I don't mind seeing getting a little smaller but it sucks for the individuals involved but you did say, I guess to broaden it out that the U S moon signifies the populace well what else do you see going on this year with the US moon? A lot

19:12 Well, first off there's—oh and by the way you're right. I did say the 17th and i'll tell you what that is that's actually a positive aspect in Nadi astrology there are things called progressions and we entered a 12-year progression of a little bit of a blessing I don't think they're going to be able to completely take over as they were. And of course, we know the midterm elections anyone who doesn't think there's manipulation going on in these elections needs to maybe shine up their glasses because iIdon't know that we've ever had an honest election for a long long time

19:53 There's a lot of coercion and manipulation that goes on, even though I'll be called the conspiracy theorist for it. But the charts certainly showed that so there was a positive and that actually exists for 12 years over the United States. So we've got the next year just focusing on 2020. I really hope I'm wrong about what I'm going to say. And that is we could see a lot more violence For instance, we have Saturn commencing its transit over the moon of the United States. It's almost exact the first pass

20:33 right on March 11th. And that also lines up very closely to the completion of the sidereal transit of Neptune squaring Mars, now people listening might go okay great what does all that mean? That's what I'd say and it's really a very It's a very tricky energy. It's subterfuge, it's lying, it's deceit—all the stuff we've been seeing and this has been going on really strongly for the last two years just to give you an idea in the Civil War right before it

21:11 The Civil War broke out in April of 1861, and it basically happened right before that. In other words the Neptune Square Mars happened right before the Civil War. We've got that same energy again now I don't think we're going to see a civil war or anything like that but i do think we're going to see a lot of planned unrest Later in this year, we have what we call a primary directed Mars conjuncting the Moon. and people may say, well what does that mean? Well primary directions are each rotation of the earth after a person's birth or the commencement of the forming of a country equals a year. So the United States is 246 years old in some odd months—and you know July 4th—so it is now 246 and about a half degrees from its

22:10 primary directed Mars going right over the top of the United States moon. So not only do we have Saturn, the planet of karma transiting the moon, but we also have Mars by primary direction. These have never happened before—not in the primary direction And I can tell you it'll never happen again for another 360 years. So what does it mean? Well, the moon in the United States using this birth chart is in the third house that's daily routines and activities and transit And I think we're going to see something that's very strong, that affects our daily lives. We're already hearing what they're doing to the petrochemical industry—I call it that because I don't believe its fossil fuel. Rockefeller got that changed back in the 1800s but we're seeing again fuel prices

23:06 are exponentially causing every other cost to go up because you can't get anything anywhere without a truck or train or plane. So when they increase all these costs of petrochemical products, you're really choking off the country and then you've got the Fed On the other end of the fulcrum, tightening up the availability of money. Now granted they're claiming they're doing that to you know thwart inflation but the quantitative easing might have been the better way to go. Not that I'm an economist telling anybody what to do, but it certainly seems like a cocktail here where you've got the politicians shoveling money into the furnace in foreign wars and looting the treasury to save the planet—which is not a bad thing if it's really saving it—and then you've got this insanity where they're trying to turn off all of the available low-cost energy

24:08 Now, if you had the dilithium crystals from Star Trek or the free energy then great. Let's have it but solar is not that reliable and I know for a fact they had hydrogen. Hydrogen is used in military submarines all the time for an oxygen dissemination I think it was back in the late 80s, early 90s. I rode in a truck that was powered by hydrogen. It's very easy to do you simply apply a copper and an aluminum rod and you will get oxygen off one, you'll get hydrogen off the other. It's so flammable you have to water it down or you'll burn up the motor

24:51 I know the military has been using, they call it cracked water which is hydrogen and they're running drones off of it. And why they don't make this available to the public? So not to sound conspiratorial but somebody's urinating down our back and telling us it's raining because if you're going to choke off the economy without a replacement that's at least as good, if not better and lower in cost then you must be trying to destroy the economy. And I think that's where we're going. We're seeing the new one world order doesn't want borders they don't want this country for sure. I think the one of the crosshairs is the most is United States because the constitution stands directly in the way a fascism it specifically designed for it

25:43 Man, a lot of great stuff there. We could go many different directions but I wanted to make sure we had the time to fit in some talk about the makeup of reality as you see it to put astrology in that context on shows that have a visual component. I've seen you show this slide that looks like four different Kabbalistic trees of life stacked on top of each other in a hierarchy of four worlds, each being 49 dimensions with 49 sub-dimensions. Can you talk to us about that model where it comes from and why this seems to be the map that you gravitate towards as most accurate as a description of our reality?

26:24 Well, you know I'm not here to convince anybody that my viewpoints are the best or anything like that. But that's actually not my viewpoint—that actually comes out of a hierarchical text called the Shaarei HaGilgum or Shaar-Ar HaGilgum which is a Hebrew Aramaic text that is…Shaarei or Shaar means gate or gates and HaGilgum is a strange word that just mean cycling of the souls And you'll see the same general concepts in many other ancient texts. Not quite like that, but similar. The Vedantic stuff is eerily parallel to the Judeo-Christian structures of creation and it says it a different way. So why I like that one is because... In fact, I would encourage people to go to my YouTube channel and you can see on there

27:19 a really good video about the soul, and it really gets into I think real basic principle of how this structure that you're referring to works. And no matter what your religion or spiritual belief is we all believe in some higher power God right hopefully unless you're Satanist and Beneath that, they say our soul is created in this upper-upper world called Absolute. And absolute just means where the divine emanation of souls come from and that's an Aramaic Hebrew word. And they claim there are 49 dimensions—49 subdimensions—in each one of these four worlds. In Bria, the worlds

28:02 Underneath that is where the waters of creation in many worlds are believed to become more dense. And it's the yet-seratic world, it really is where the rubber hits the road. This is where physicists are looking at all the molecular creation of everything—the amino acids, the rotating galaxies, and the whole concept of physical matter. the Yetziratic world is where you could say astronomy and astrology start happening. And they claim there could be 49 parallel universes, and 49 sub-dimensions in each one. I don't know about you Greg but that's way past my comprehension when you really sit and think about it. Yes. Our Milky Way and our little solar system on the speck edge of all of it

28:56 is really where the final worlds happen, and that's called the astral planes which is the worlds of Asaia. But I think what's important about this—and again there are 49 dimensions, 49 sub-dimensions there—and then there's Earth where spirit is believed to manifest. And you know when we talk about all this stuff in the world where we see wars and injustices and we also see beautiful things like creation birth of all different living things, which is stunning. I'm still amazed that you can throw a seed on the shelf and 30 years from now or whenever you can walk up take it out and throw it in the ground put some water on it and it'll grow! It's astonishing. You look at children and just all the magic of creation in life...it's stunning. And that's something that I think the lower world here on earth always tries to take us away from

29:57 And this text that I mentioned called the Shareh HaGilgum breaks something down that i think is very, very fascinating and that is the structure of the human psyche, the spirit and the upper layers of the soul. And that has a lot to do with this whole matrix of the universes and the astrology, because a lot of astrologers spend I think too much time on astrology and not enough on what is astrology and what isn't it. I always say, forget Trinity, Neo and Morpheus. We might be looking at truly the matrix of the soul when you look at the heavens and the astrological energies that go on in this planet—and particularly the Vedic and the Nadi astrology shed lights on that in a way

30:53 potentially much more healthy, because it's not saying you are your astrology. It's actually saying the opposite—that your astrology may be you! And now we see where the religions may have fallen short and quite a bit short instead of us all being sinners and going to hell there may be a lot more to life than they're letting us really know...and not that they're keeping it but I think these doctrines were thrown out and politicized and all that over the millennia. And what's fascinating about where I'm going with all this is the world we're currently in, because a lot of people have really become very disheartened with the world and the lies and the politics and all this stuff that went on with COVID as well as if you go back through history nothing's new folks it's...you know they've been pulling this crap forever

31:50 It's just getting more sophisticated now. And we're now entering into this new high-tech world where artificial intelligence, genetic manipulation, manipulation of the mind is going to become much, much more prevalent than I think ever before and the mechanistic society lends itself to us everyone's on the internet just the other day went into Whole Foods and look, you can pay with your palm. Well there's digital currency see? So the future is hitting us like a freight train and it really has started since 2020 even though it just didn't happen then I mean come on we've had computers and high-tech genetic manipulation going on for many many years

32:44 Ever since World War II, we've been on a high-tech escalation that's quite stunning. But I think it's really becoming manifest now because the astrology opened the gate so to speak and AI Again I'm not here promoting or demoting Elon Musk or anybody else, but he made a statement that i thought was very accurate and that is AI is going to replace most of the human functionary jobs that require manual labor Probably within the next 20 to 30 years. Yeah, and it may come sooner in some areas and later in others but is here an artificial intelligence Is a scary thing because if it's used for the betterment to serve humanity It's a wonderful thing if it's used to manipulate or control which you know We've always seen our learned leaders try and do that

33:42 And as long as it's kept in checks and balances, and back to the Constitution I'm actually stunned when you read the Constitution. It actually works even in today's high-tech society. The principles, yeah. It does it does and to go a little deeper on these four worlds I've also heard you talk about the many legions of angels in each of these worlds and I'm interested in that because I've also heard you kind of say that these astrological energies or these energies that we call astrological they could be considered angelic as well as planetary from a certain perspective. And I guess another thing you said last time was that these angels, these fallen angels that might be imprisoned in the earth which we hear all the time imprisoned in the earth usually that's thought to be like the core of the earth or something but you phrased it as if almost they could be imprisoned in the actual molecular structure of the physical world and I think that's really interesting help us get a better concept of how these

34:45 angels of the other worlds interact with us? Do they all have access to the physical plane or just some of them, what are your thoughts on that interaction?" That's deep stuff. You know I mean... The hierarchical structure seems to work correctly. They you know- The upper worlds of absolute I mentioned before again watch that video on the soul gets into a little bit of this exceedingly vast topic and What I loved about the Sharia Gilgam and some of the models that i'm using in that video is it at least allows us to wrap our minds around something that's so abstract. When you talk about angels, you know angels—and many of the religions will use metaphorical stories to explain exceedingly detailed things that are cryptographic in the scriptures—we lost so much

35:39 when you came out of the Aramaic and the Hebrew, and the Coptic into the Vulgate translations because you can't take those secret cryptographic codes that are embedded in the Psalms and in these scriptures. And put it into Latin or English and maintain it quite the same way I mean you still can but not the same way I mean, it's stunning the stuff that's in there. You take the Psalms—there are certain verses you pass them through coded ciphers called Temera and Gamatria and Akbiker and all these different very complex codes and you'll get names of angels. So we are clearly dealing with a matrix here, and when you look at the upper heavens in upper dimensions these angels seem to be very specific and very powerful. And as we get down into the Yetziratic world you get the co-mixture—see many of your medieval and ancient

36:37 societies, particularly Egypt, Chaldea and India are some of the ones that have—their documents are intact to prove it. Though I think it was fairly ubiquitous a long time ago. It sure seems to have been. Anyways, the point is that there appears to be a war in heaven that is spoke about in almost all your religions, particularly the East and the West, I'll say that, and that the spirits were cast down Well, in that model that we were looking at and you're speaking about Greg. You'll notice there's something referred to as the fourth hierarchy. The fourth hierarchy is not just the devil—you know usually we get the guy with a suit tying microphone telling us about the devil—but it's just a little bit more than that. You have those four Lucifer Satan Belial Leviathan beneath that you have eight and beneath that there is just a plethora of lesions

37:34 And this is what many people would term the angry spirits that are evil, and they sure seem to be. And this gets into a whole matrix of astrology because really when we look at the zodiacs—astronomers will say well wait a minute they don't even line up with the constellations I don't think they were ever meant to and the sidereal Vedic astrology is a little closer, but even then it doesn't. So we clearly have something that's hidden that is of a spiritual very dynamic nature and it seems to involve the good in the evil spirits. And I think the evil spirits—I think what you mentioned before they appear to be not just in the earth though some might be—but they appear to be forced

38:24 to be participants right down to the very structures of not only molecular, but other things we can't measure which is spirit. And you could say the etheric energy is one word to use of the soul and the fabric of mysterious forces that science has just now beginning to acknowledge even exist a good friend of mine Dr. Claude Swanson who just passed away I was hoping to have him on the show He wrote some interesting things where he's starting to come up with models, where hard science can begin to at least consider this stuff. And the ancients I think were way past where modern science in its kind of slow stodgy analytical put-everything-in-a-box method is—not that that isn't good too! But yeah, the evil spirits really seem to be embedded here and they may be forced by

39:20 I believe they are forced, but they're held in abeyance. This is why we always see the wars and the good and evil at all points in between. But what's fascinating when you get into the really ancient rabbinical texts—and some of the Egyptian and Vedantic—they all talk about how do we get out of the matrix of astrology? And that's what I'm most interested in because if we can all escape from Alcatraz and rise above this word we hear a lot thrown around called karma, isn't that interesting? Because karma can be good or ill. But many of the ancient societies said the game was to dissipate that lower

40:09 There's a series of texts called the Puranas, and it's one of many in the ancient Vedantic texts. And the Hebrew has them too where it's basically speaking that we keep incarnating here until the elementals—they call them samskaras in India—bind the soul to the physical plane of reincarnation. Now, in plain English There is some very fascinating stories about people who will die with hatred and anger, and they will come right back and replay that stuff out again. And there even seems to be celestial courts that are referred to

40:49 specifically that have to do with reincarnation. You know, Rome threw the doctrines of reincarnation out the window somewhere between the second and fifth century—maybe even the first—and it clearly was there in ancient Christianity and it certainly is there in many other doctrines. And Nadi astrology I think proves it! When we were doing a reading with you remember when we were talking about your dad? So many different things...you can totally see the kind of patterns that that soul has come in with. When I started studying Nadia astrology, it really helped me to understand some of the insane stuff that went on in my childhood and you become instead of so reactive It's like being in the world but not of it You're of it but not in it is another way to say that And this is what I think all the religions have tried to do

41:46 Some have done it well, but many haven't. And that is you know you're all sinners and y'all going to hell whereas if we look at it more from... We're engaged here in a dissipation of etheric energy that the East called karma and You know course the West it's all your sins right? Which also may have attributes that are really good because the astrology literally is a matrix You know, we look at planets as gravity and you know masses floating around the sun. And if you're a flat earther it's still a celestial model so the bottom line is the ancients said no there are angels intelligences spirits in each planet and there's hierarchies and if you focus your telescope you're not going to see them

42:38 And that's the wrong channel. You can't see them, just like you can't see the spirits and all the other mysterious forces that are going on." I really believe when you look at Nadi astrology, you're looking at that matrix and I'm actually stunned at how powerful these planetary switches are. They're literally multi-dimensional portals So Earth, in my opinion is a very sacred very special place that souls come to experience purify rectify and create. And it seems to be that complex everything's going on here I mean look around us yeah the busy place and it does seem like the

43:28 Capstone Cabal wants to keep us rooted in the physical because they control the physical to an extent and that's why I think we've been taken into this materialist worldview. And knowledge of these other worlds has been wiped away when we think of astrology, we tend to think of the planets because we have this materialist mindset, but of course that's why the gods and the planets have the same names when you go back a little ways. And they kind of understood that these energies maybe they aren't anthropomorphized completely but they have stories and personalities in many different aspects to them. This is another thing so I have been drifting more

44:13 More away from the idea that modern ufology is this sci-fi alien thing when really it should be thought of as a relationship with forces or angels from a higher plane. That has always kind of been occasional in life. And I didn't know this last time we talked, but you were actually contracted by MUFON to do some work into correlation between astrology and UFO experience to some degree right? What do you think about the idea of ufology kind of getting it wrong? It's not about sci-fi aliens it's more about this eternal presence of energies from these more ethereal worlds. And maybe both

44:56 It's interesting, the other groups that I've had a blessing to get involved with and do work for was remote viewing groups. And some of these guys are military, some are ex-military—it is very interesting stuff because you're in the same genre. They're trying to find energies or see into various different things they call them targets. What we found was the celestial influences really do have a profound effect even on each individual And yet, I also see that there's definitely extraterrestrial stuff going on. It always impressed me that there was a number of events that I got to study like the Maelstrom Air Force Base and various different places you know and we were looking for was there any possibility there was a astrological connection or an astronomical connection might be a more specific way to say it

45:50 between those events, and there was. It's very interesting especially on individuals who have said things like I was abducted, I had missing time etc., Travis Walton and so many other famous cases were really quite interesting. And we found the same thing in the remote viewing that targets by certain teams or individuals working were much more accurate at certain positions of the heavens and fixed stars and lunar aspects. You know, when you look at the moon, look at the enigmas surrounding the moon I mean that thing is a very interesting...I know myself i have taken very long lenses

46:34 optically and looked with very high quality digital cameras. There's stuff coming in and out of that moon that is pretty mysterious, and it ain't birds I can tell you that. Yes! It's birds of a different kind, that's for sure And the US military has documented so much stuff. I mean, I was talking to one guy who's on a team with the Marines off the coast of Malibu out here in California and you're here too. So there is this huge cavern that they've been studying vessels coming in and out of there. The speeds are almost immeasurable. It's really it's almost like their warping time

47:14 and space. And now we get into maybe what astrology is, astrology might be multi-dimensional portals and you know any astrologer if you get around anybody doing astrology the first thing you're gonna hear out of their mouth well you've got a exalted this or debilitated that in other words as planets move around the earth they end up in different positions. It's almost like taking a stator and electricity, and if you move it around it contacts different... You could say circuits. It's very similar to that analogy but I think much more complex. And every single geometric aspect plus you have all these fixed stars that are documented in the ancient Egyptian and Greek

48:05 Vedantic. That's stunning! I mean, one of the things that struck me in Vedic astrology is particularly Nadi and for anyone listening that's not naughty, it's n-a-d-i. It's very ancient. It may be some of the older stuff in India and I love the concept because it's really looking at spirit manifest Now think about that. Instead of you being a Pisces or an Aries, they're saying well when did your spirit manifest? And then they look at the astrology to see what's unfolding with the soul's path

48:44 Now that's a whole different way of looking at astrology. That's more putting the emphasis on you, your free will and your individuality. And now we go back to the evil spirits and the good spirits and the angels in all points in between this literally seems to be a matrix that plays out in an interactive consciousness with this free will of the soul. Because think about that, every one of us has been ticked off by somebody now what are you going to do get a gun and shoot them or are you going to take them to court? Or are you gonna say that was a mistake please don't do it again so we have freewill to do any of those points at any point in between

49:26 Astrology is not predicting the future. It's more showing maybe where the soul is at this point in time, in our quote-unquote reality and you were mentioning something before I really like and that model that I talk about on my video on my YouTube channel about the soul—and it's certainly not conclusive but it touches on the fact that when we're born The angel ties the spirit, psyche and soul to the body at first breath permanently. It's actually attached when we're conceived by silver cord and then whatever our gestation period is usually about nine months we come out of mom's womb right? And at that point in time they say the angel attaches the spirit, psyche and soul at first breath

50:16 Breath is synonymous with spirit. Try not taking one for a while, see how good you do? So breath is really sacred and what's I think important about that as they say the angel Not only...think about when you know for any women out there who've had a child That's a pretty dramatic experience You know and I can tell you I've been to that barbecue, and you know you've got a child too don't you? Yeah i do. Yeah it's wonderful! I mean...I was in the delivery room and I had always heard that legend that soul is tied to the body at first breath, and I'll never forget it

50:56 My son had to go C-section, and my wife she's shaking Camille right? She from the epidural. And I actually got to see them open her up. I was looking around the tent and I literally saw two lights joined the second he cried night didn't expect it. I did not see any wings or shapes. I just saw illuminations that's all I could say but oh my God was so profound It was like literally the hair on my arms just went up and I said my god The legend is true You could just feel the light in the room, and anybody who's been in a delivery room has probably felt something like that because it's quite stunning. And this is why the astrology of The Ancients was much more correct—particularly Nadi—in that it views it I think in a more correct light. It's where spirit becomes manifest so the place and time you're born, the longitude latitude, in the exact second really comes into play

51:52 Most birth charts or birth certificates don't record the time to the second. I was kind of rectified, but there's an angel that rules that is really stunning and I find it so accurate to the individual's expression of their inner drive, their inner aspirations. And some of them aren't too nice and some of them are wonderful. you get this kaleidoscope of reality, literally. Yeah I tend to think of astrology as not something that is going to dictate your life but it is your tendencies and some people have a tendency towards anger that takes them years to get into check some people have other tendencies towards humor or whatever your coping mechanism is take-your-pick these are kind of the things that I would say

52:51 You have some free will, as you put it within them. But they're kind of like the forces that push and pull on you. I've heard you say astrology doesn't predict the future. It shows the divine forces at play in the dense lower worlds of spiritual manifestation into the physical plane and I like that. And just And just to get a little deeper into the move on work you did, or even the remote viewing work you did. When you find people who either have a high degree of high strangeness experience or have a knack for remote viewing I mean do you see similarities in the charts of people who have a bunch of this activity? Or people who consider themselves seers is there a quality we can look at in a chart and be like oh this is gonna be one of those people

53:38 Absolutely. You bet! It really shows up quite prevalently in a number of different ways. Yeah, they're called yogas and combinations which are infinite! You know I mean once you get past the Sun sign astrology... When i do readings I spend a lot of time preparing because I really take responsibility that's a person's life and you know I'm not God—I'm never going to be but I want to be as accurate as I can to understand the incredibly complex energies that are imbued in that soul's time of birth, because it really is a reflection of us in my opinion. And I find like people who've had paranormal phenomena will tend to have it more frequently during certain cycles of their life like Saturn

54:28 is definitely a real timekeeper in a person's life. Just like we were mentioning earlier, Saturn is transiting over the United States moon—that happens every 28 and half years! It's referred to as Sadi Sathe. It's extremely powerful. See if you look at the glyphs of the planets Every icon or glyph is a combination of the circle, the crescent and the cross. Well what is the circle? The sun! If you look at the stars in the heavens they may be portals to the upper dimensions hence why they're so bright and many scientists are scratching their heads going maybe it isn't nuclear fission maybe its plasma maybe it's electric there's all kinds of theories floating around out

55:16 as time moves on. But I believe that they're portals to the upper light and the dimensions of the upper heavens, and the planets seem to be modulators of that so the moon is the crucible. And you could look at it like this dad puts seed in mom's womb farmer puts the seed in the ground—that's the sun into the womb—and then spirit becomes manifest on the physical plane, which the cross is the four elements also equal sunrise noon sunset midnight. So Saturn is the cross over the crescent of the moon and it seems to show previously concretized energies that now become manifest. Well how could that happen if reincarnation wasn't a possibility? Yeah What could be previous? Now I'm not saying some souls don't come in here new

56:09 And there's yogas in the Nadi astrology that seem to indicate when we're getting closer to that conscious escape from Alcatraz kind of energy, they call it moksha and ancient Vedantic stuff where moksha is a term that means enlightenment. And there are other, I mean just look at all the people you see. Some people are really advanced and kind and knowledgeable and wise some aren't. You know some you know you see them on the road they'll chase you down and shoot you So we're dealing with every level of consciousness here and the world i really think is a soul cauldron it's almost like a grounding rod

56:56 individual egoic senses of self, and that's really quite phenomenal when you think about it. And going back to AI this is what I wanted to drive at before and I failed to make the point, and that is the demonic spirits know full well that the lower conscious mind... in that video I talk about something referred to as the nefesh now They talk about this in other, they call it the Keistra and Vedantic. So it's all just a fancy bunch of nomenclature once you get familiar with it is pretty simple Our lower conscious minds are like silly putty. When we're born, they say you know we can't walk, we can't talk if it wasn't for the parents that little being wouldn't live same thing with the animals just like the seed in the ground if it wasn't nurtured or if it gets trampled its done so that's the most vulnerable phase and they say our lower conscious mind is forming constantly throughout life

57:57 And obviously, look at the changes we all go through from youth until where we're at now. So that's called the lower nefesh or the conscious mind. This is where mind control is very effective. If you beat someone and tell them don't do that or I'll hurt you they will probably stop doing it even though it's not a very good thing to do So it's the carrot and the stick. If you reward someone for doing something that they're supposed to do, well then everybody is happy right? You get pleasure and rewards so these carrot-stick methods have been used throughout history to form the lower conscious mind look at you know you take military in all these different

58:41 civilizations back to the beginning of time. If the Pope says, you go take every man and woman and child no prisoners that's what they did because they weren't told to question orders or were told to follow them. And we see these same things today so there is nothing wrong with hierarchy and people having respect for structure but when you look at the manipulation that can happen That's where wisdom in the spirit in a soul come in where you start seeing certain souls, they see past the lower programming. They start getting what is referred to as just simply wisdom and this is a very interesting topic because now you start getting into the Rosh which is the spirit and the lower portions of the soul which the religions have always called like your conscience and all that stuff but when you look at it from the standpoint we begin to really maybe

59:38 look at our beliefs with more objectivity. And that is where it all starts, because we see the manipulation that's going on even in modern society. And, you know people's internet is being turned off or their accounts are being stopped so this is the course of efforts that are nothing new it's just new tools to do with. You know? It was just like if you pissed off The King he would send in a brigade And in Rome, they actually would not only kill you. They'd kill your family and then they would salt the ground so nothing you owned whatever grow food anymore." I mean, yeah, Romans were... Do know that Romans used to do a ritual outside of a city to chase the angel of this city away? So that the people would not have as much resolve to fight. Yeah, I think you taught me that. Yeah it's pretty stunning.

1:00:34 Wow, yeah they used to have so much more knowledge about this interplay between the various worlds even if they had a basic concept of just a spirit world and ours. Even that is just so much more developed than our own little difference there yes Well, it seems like the road ahead is going to be pretty bumpy but hopefully people will resist some of this stuff finally and wake up from the trance. And it seems like we have some windows of opportunity to do that just as they have windows of opportunity to turn up the dial on us and until

1:01:10 Unfortunately, they have a little more knowledge of these cycles than the masses. But hey that's what we're here to correct right? That's what we're trying to do so I appreciate the insights it's been a pleasure talking to you again You certainly know a lot about the spiritual energetic and political sides of things I guess We have a lot to watch out for but I also appreciate the reading you did for me So if people wanted to get their own reading or follow up on the things you're doing where should they go Oh yeah, go to jeffharmon.com that's always the best at jeffharmon.com and then also check out the YouTube channel because there is a lot of cool stuff on there and you know we got to realize I'm very humbled because i can tell you none of us will ever figure this out in the more we start from their and keep the eagle out of it just be observers the better off we are because every one of us

1:02:04 are going to exit the body. I call it taking the pipe, we're all going to exit the body sooner or later and you know really what's it all about? You know and the only thing we take with us is the conscious awareness that we've amassed in this incarnation and you see some people pass away not too high of conscious states they're angry they're bitter they're hateful you know look at some of these people who die in violent situations and the stuff that they do. You tell me there isn't karma? I see it in the charts, it comes back and then you see other people that are just the most precious souls on the planet And everybody's marching to their own level of consciousness We're all like little buoys floating in this ocean of conscious existence It is really interesting

1:02:57 Boat ride, I'll say that. Indeed we all got a role to play in the theater of life! Yeah you're gonna hit this progression remember i told you you've got a progression coming up In just a couple years yeah...I was just looking at your chart just now Yep. Lots to consider and I remember the relocation breakdown and we talked about the Pacific Northwest, Texas... You mentioned there is some good energy in Central Florida which i think is going to be the landing point so hopefully I can ride that wave I gotta tell you, location astrology is just stunning. It really is! I include that in my personal readings and it's absolutely uncanny how accurate it is. And you have cycles that come through the transits and the progressions, like you had that nasty Pluto descending which you can wave bye-bye now to—that thing will never come back here again unless you live to be another 240 years old

1:03:57 So, well I'm glad uh, I'm glad the storm is over. But man awesome! Well food for thought from the land of fruits and nuts thanks again i appreciate everything you do and take care all right my friend you bet thank you so much all right guys whew man i take an extended weekend off to go do this gramerica event and the big machine threw everything at us didn't it Clearly at the meeting they thought they better do an all systems go while THC is not available to cover it. But yes, of course I recorded this with Jeff just before i left for that trip maybe six days ago which almost sounds like an eternity now but I like Jeff he's got a good radio voice and he's really knowledgeable about the things in his wheelhouse

1:04:50 I knew it had only been about six months since he was here the first time, but i thought if we focused on the star map forecast ahead we would be keeping it pretty fresh. But I do think we got some of the same anecdotes and segues as last time... It happens! Nobody can be expected to remember what they said in every previous interview but I kind of felt that happening and so we switched gears to the four worlds stuff And I like that a lot too I've definitely got a renewed interest in models for reality that outline a hierarchy of various layers of increasing density. Call it Schwab residue, maybe... But Jeff seems to operate from a similar perspective This is kind of a strange personal story but about a week ago i was picking up some food and i was walking back to the higher side mobile with the big crazy wrap on it for people who know

1:05:46 And sometimes the rap prompts people to start a conversation, so I'm strapping Theory into the car seat and a guy says hey man. I like the car You know I've seen a UFO and I say oh yeah? I do hear that quite a bit, and he says but it wasn't a ufo really It was more like an angel like a real biblical Angel like Ezekiel's wheel and now I'm intrigued I said damn I hear that more and more too what else can you tell me And he says, well it was like a bunch of spinning rings and it had four wings. And I say very cool! Did it interact with you or give you some psychedelic vision? He says yeah actually it told me it was fixing my fourth chakra and it did. I had some stuff going on that it fixed and then it took off into the sky just... and that was about it but probably my favorite interaction in awhile

1:06:39 and something I can fit into the four worlds model a lot easier than something that came from a distant planet. But man, it is chaos out there in the world right now isn't it? The giant disaster in Ohio is insane! This is the sort of thing thats going to happen when you don't let underpaid and overworked workers strike And run everything on a skeleton crew and neglect to do proper inspections That's probably why they don't want to cover it because it would look really bad for the Democrats who blocked that strike legally. Didn't even know you could do that! And it seems like all our systems are just breaking down, but this event also seems intentional Like why did the CDC update the page for vinyl chloride just a few days before the crash? Why did like three other trains carrying hazardous material also crash

1:07:36 Why is there a new Netflix movie called White Noise about a toxic train derailment in Ohio? Dicey dicey. And there's a new train derailment of hazardous material in Detroit that I think happened today, and a five-acre plastic warehouse in Kissimmee Florida on fire and all the media cares about is a few unidentified objects that they say have been shot down but they can't recover It is a wild fucking week Crazy earthquake in Turkey too Where I also read that apparently many in-the club officials had advanced warning to evacuate, so they say. I always throw these caveats out there because i just don't really trust anything! But Ohio is such important farmland and the river there is tainted now all the way down to Tennessee they're saying... If we were under attack with unconventional warfare would we even know?

1:08:33 It does feel like some of this is a big enough deal that the objects, much like the balloon could just be distraction stories. I'm still interested it's possible for two things to be going on at once but i'm really worried about the fallout from these industrial disasters more than I am the objects apparently Senator John Kennedy got a briefing of some kind and then came out and said Americans better lock their doors tonight are you kidding me The story for decades has been that we can't tell people about the strange stuff flying around in the sky because it might cause a panic. And then you say something ominous like that? Clearly they want us to be afraid! But that aside, the Mount Shasta event was a lot of fun I got to hang out and light up with a lot of really cool people We did a podcaster panel Q&A one night which will go up to Plus Members eventually

1:09:25 We did a little hiking, but the road we really wanted to go up was closed and then our trek to Ferry Falls was impeded by some rushing water. And it was cold and when you got close to 40 people you can't really press on if everyone isn't willing to do so But I still enjoyed a nice hike in the fresh air and there was a lot of fun to be had at The Cabin! We did some breath work and i definitely got to a light-headed spacey place Brandon Powell is a great coach But it was a lot of hanging at the cabin. Again, transporting 40 people isn't the easiest thing but I loved it! The cabin was really awesome and cheers to all the guys I met out there And I'm actually quite pressed for time because when I was in the mountains we actually put an offer on a house in Florida and it was accepted So I'm getting on a plane in just a couple hours so I can be present for the inspection at least

1:10:21 And as long as nothing crazy comes out of that, we will be one step closer to the big move. Yes! But with all this craziness going on and me being already absent for almost a week I wanted to scramble this thing together and get it out to you quickly so the gap didn't have to be larger than necessary. I'm trying here ya know? I also got the first round of outlines sent out And thanks to everyone who picked up one or two or three, there's a new round of show outlines up there now. So if you're hoping for a specific one take another look and keep your eyes peeled because more will be going up every five days or so whenever I can but before we go We gotta mention meetup events and here are the next few

1:11:13 Today actually, February 16th. It looks like the Los Angeles Truthers are getting together again at the Flame International Restaurant tomorrow February 17th. Sinspiracy Monthly 2 in Blue Ash Ohio man I hope you guys are alright but it'd probably be nice to talk about what's going on with other Ohioans February 18th we got one in London Also, February 18th. We got one in Harrisburg Oregon and February 26 Asheville North Carolina looks like a couple more got added but that will Fill out the calendar for the month of February and there you have it fun show today I thank Jeff for his time and his talent if you liked the first hour the second hour got into our

1:12:05 The soul cycle trap hypothesis, cymatics frequency vibration and Tartarian architecture. Jeff's take on the most prolific healer of the last century. Strangeness on Jeff's grandmother's property. The demonic suppression of life old world tech and etheric energy. The question if there is some window in the stars that just might help end humanity's trance We also talked about insights from the charts of the CCP and the Russian Empire. And Jeff talked to us about eclipses, omens and the road ahead so no shortage of stuff! Sign up for THC Plus and start getting the full show with a free 7-day trial to kick it off. Of course if you want a personal reading go to Jeff he is very thorough and I enjoyed mine quite a bit

1:12:57 Big thanks to you for listening. I'm getting out of here your move astral energies, reality map readers and angels of the four worlds. Your fucking moon. And I can't stand to see your mind The high sights that are on you You're not afraid to do the time Yeah, yeah, oh, hey