Chris Knowles | Song To The Siren, Invoked Entities, & Rebuilding Babylon

00:05 Puppet masters almost surely have clearly made me something there. And until you've thoroughly tested every last close just to think, you know the less you really do! That's true Dr. Seuss. LTHC, cause lying to us just don't work with LTCH The Higher Side Chat Show, a world in company

00:43 Here we go, Hireside Chatters. Drinking a little drink, smoking a little smoke and ready to get weird with you from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and today is a hell of an episode! I've been holding on to it for way too long but the live show took a whole lot of preparation and it took a lot of time to actually get it done and put it out And my talk with Chris didn't follow the typical interview timeline because we ran into a couple of different issues along the way that caused us to have to stop or even go back and retread some of the same ground. But it was a fun day getting really deep in this Siren saga and all the areas that is spirals out into, I think you end up with almost an extra hour of show when its all said and done and who doesn't like that?

01:24 But really, the reason I'm jumping the gun to talk to you here is to say that we recorded this just days before the Vegas shooting which is something that Chris and me too really have just been obsessed over since it happened. And what's really crazy is so many symbolic elements show up in both cases. I think the first thing Chris said after the shooting was didn't we spend a lot of time talking about black pyramids and Las Vegas? And its true! I say it in the show, but we had to leave some threads alone because we didn't want to overcomplicate the story. But Vegas and Black Pyramids are a big part of it and Chris has been throwing out warnings related to bad omens in Vegas and symbolic pressure mounting since May

02:05 But we also know from Austin Coppock and Preston Gibbs, our astrology guests that Regulus is the star of the show this year. The brightest star in the constellation of Leo. Leo is the lion and who was at the very heart of the whole Vegas thing? MGM! What's their logo? Their classic symbol they've used forever? The Lion So this is the sort of connection making that conspiracy folks get mocked for with token characters in movies and TV, but this is how a synchromystic sees the world. Connections matter, symbols matter and the gods are more involved than materialists would have you believe And many guests are seeing the current agenda as blending the worlds or opening portals for the elite's arconic overlords to spill in through, and I'm starting to concur. It is what our oldest texts seem to describe and Chris also mentioned to me the other day that he thinks that's why twinning has been such a theme lately and comes up in this case too The whole As Above So Below thing like mirroring much like the date 10-1 itself

03:05 But I should just play the thing. I only wanted you to keep some of the Vegas symbolism in mind with this show and say that, I'm actually very glad we recorded it before the shooting happened or Vegas would have just dominated the whole show and now you actually get a lot of context backfilled but you can see just how epically this story spirals out by the time the episode's over. And the Vegas situation also kind of helped Chris make so many new connections that weren't there at the time either, So do read The Secret Son when you're done and go through his recent posts it's a great follow-up to an already wild story! With that let's dive in... The Song To The Siren Music Magic Rebuilding Babylon with the man himself Chris Nolce

03:50 Pack it and park it, tune in and spark it Cause Greg's about to open up your mind Armed with information about the secret manipulation And the wisest officianados he can find And he's pulling back and carrying on what we thought We knew for certain so that we could see the world With a brand new set of eyes You're listening to The Higher Sessions Alright, Hiresight Chatters. We've been around long enough to see the strange synchronicities that seem to run in the background of reality sometimes so elaborate as to suggest a web of otherworldly influence that makes one wonder if the entire earthly plane is nothing more than a stage for multidimensional actors regularly rerunning the old scripts of Babylon

04:41 Add in the conspiratorial call signs of secret orders and mystery cults, and life seems even more like a backstage battle for influence, initiation, and indoctrination that only those outside the box really have eyes to see. Is there some dark alliance between the upper crust and underworld? Some partnership between political players, pop culture creators, and the paranormal? Or maybe the nexus of deep state scientists and sorcerers of social engineering have just come to realize that if they chum the waters of reality, some strange things come into play… However you try to explain it, it always seems to get weirder and that's why we need a guy like todays returning guest Chris Knowles. Of course Chris runs the ever potent Secret Sun blog and is the author of great books like Our Gods Wear Spandex The Secret History of Comic Book Heroes And The Secret History of Rock & Roll The Mysterious Roots of Modern Music One of my favorite sages of synchromysticism, the connector of dots, the untangler of webs...Chris my man how are ya?

05:35 I am awesome. Anytime talking to Greg Colwood is a good time as far as I'm concerned, always. I appreciate that man yeah you too great to talk to you again last time we did this was January the new president was just taking office and we talked about a lot of the eerie tone that was going on in Washington and you know you could kind of sense the uneasiness now that were entering the last couple months of the year i guess i'd ask how do you feel about things now has anything changed I think things have changed. What we saw, what very strongly believe we saw is the after effects of a five war, you know, intramural wrangling Washington between power structures and power players. I think that the DNC hack which I absolutely believe was an inside job—I don't believe they're Russia thing for a moment—and

06:27 you know, what I call the Podesta issue which mutated into Pizzagate and sort of took on a life of its own. But I think that the demons let out of the box with all that skullduggery and cloak-and-dagger really seemed to create this post election fugue state because everyone was just sorta scrambling around trying to figure out how they're gonna respond to this, what they are going to do, what their strategy is gonna be And it's interesting, we saw sort of like a gladiator style strategy of tension unveiled which is seems to be dying down a bit now. You know, we saw these massive rallies and the, you know, the wars which all seem to be part of the same strategy just different octopus limbs so to speak different tentacles but I think things have what we see now it's interesting what I was looking for in the wake of the election

07:28 since I didn't vote and had no dog in the fight, is that was looking for the theme. What's the theme? With Obama we saw this... And this is even before the election all these Egyptian King Tut all this weird kind of crypto-masonic. Right, rising sun? Yeah all that kind of thing you know and I talked about the stairway to Sirius how Obama and McCain seem to split up the component parts of the Sirius hieroglyphs and incorporate them into their election campaign logos and I thought, this is really odd. What's this about? And that really unleashed this whole epic series of posts on the stairway to serious and what that means in the second degree Masonic tracing board in The World Financial Center now you know the world trade one or whatever it's called alignment with the monolith hotel and all its kind of stuff was just one thing after another but we're also getting hit a lot of things like

08:25 the spectacle at Dubai, at the Atlantis Hotel which you're just watching going wait this is in a very conservative Muslim country and this is like literally the most pagan thing I've ever seen in my life. What the hell's going on here? You know there are all these sort of themes like seeing from space...I mean there was a whole bunch of things that I was still trying to sort through what I saw with the Trump thing was just These Roman themes, you know people who don't live in New Jersey haven't been Atlantic City Don't realize that the Trump casino was sort of cheek by jowl with the old Caesars Palace You know these two casinos are like almost in the same block and so I sort of started thinking about these Roman themes and

09:05 And I was thinking about, you know he started interviewing all these generals and all these generals were being absorbed into his administration. And it's like this is the Praetorian Guard! This is literally what we're seeing... you know, in the old days when there was some sort of chaos in Rome. The Praetorian Guard would take over and a puppet in the emperor's seat and this happened throughout what they called the crisis of the third century so I'm like wow this is kind of what...and Trump has always really played up this whole Caesar Roman Emperor kind of motif You see this in his apartment, his home

09:45 He's really kind of gravitated towards these themes and archetypes. So I was kinda like seizing on that, and then this whole thing with Mithras which is literally we could do an epic series of shows on Mithras and how this archetype just seems to be rising everywhere you look but a lot people from New Jersey don't realize this when Trump goes on vacation he goes to Bedminster which is literally right down the street from me At one point across the street from him was AT&T World's headquarters and there was a statue called The Spirit of Electricity or The Genius of Electricity, something like that. And it was basically a 20th century Mithras statue. I mean it's based exactly on old icons of Mithras so I'm thinking okay he is right across the street from Mithras! This is like a weird conjunction

10:37 And now what we see in Washington is that there's this triumvirate. We literally rule like just like, you know the early imperial era were ruled by a triumvirate. You have Kelly chief of staff you know I mean Donald Trump can't even answer his phone without getting permission from Kelly now and you have McMaster who's completely taken over the foreign policy apparatus and you have Mattis who's in charge of you know the Imperial war machine. These three Bone crushers like yeah, very frightening men who are running the country right now and it literally is Back to Imperial Rome. I mean people have always made those comparisons those metaphors No, this is the Roman imperial LARP there You know, this is guys were really into like Roman Empire role-playing games, you know Let's do this for real Right so yeah So I think we're really to sum it up I mean what we really saw is I think we just saw

11:35 there was a real bomb dropped in the middle of Washington, so to speak with the DNC hacks and the Podesta emails. And everyone was just scrambling around now first of all trying to protect themselves they're probably all lawyering up but I think that they were really trying to figure out like how do we respond to this? This is really bad this is serious what do we do here and I think I don't want to offend any of Pizzagate people per se, but I think the whole Pizzagate thing kind of gave them air cover. It sort of steered attention away from what was really going on and what was really being said in those emails." Yeah, that's fair because the pedophile thing has been a part of conspiracy culture forever that the elite abused children. It really isn't a secret at this point it doesn't seem.

12:26 Oh right, it's systemic. Yeah and the pizza gate thing it really did just take all of that wrap it in a little package and put it over on the side and then they send in that guy with the gun and then that's the story and now everybody is like really hush-hush about pedophilia because you don't know if he set somebody off some crazy guy might go in and start shooting and not so irresponsible to even be talking about I agree with you they definitely took it and spun it off And kind of wash their hands of it and put it over there. That's how they get out all this stuff whenever people start to see the breadcrumbs. Yeah, that is a massive you know everyone is afraid that some guy with an IMDB page was going to storm into their restaurant or whatever I mean for people are gonna inspire that

13:14 That's a topic for another discussion. It's all craziness, but again it's guys who are like really into the Pizzagate thing you know don't realize who they're playing with they don't realize the playing field they're on They're not playing with rival bloggers or rival YouTube producers You're dealing with the people who bomb countries so you better get all your information squared away before you start fucking with those guys right Man and you also made an interesting point about the recent NFL dust up that it too seems like it's in that nexus of a blatant military recruitment campaign, patriotism play seems to fit right with the whole Trump motif. Yeah its interesting because

13:59 The whole idea of the NFL players standing for the national anthem started back in 2009 and it was basically an initiative taken by the Department of Defense, and the National Guard. as basically a recruitment tool to get people who go to football games, particularly younger people obviously younger people sign up for the military. You know it's really part of our recruitment drive now the interesting thing to me about all this is there are couple things that are interesting first of all we have a government which is run by generals or we have a White House that is run by generals and they use this time too

14:39 poke at that hornet's nest. And it's the usual Trump thing, provocation and reaction. But there is another thing that again this is a topic for an entire program. Do you remember starting I guess really came to fruition in 2012 when Madonna puts on the Egyptian Roman pagan militaristic androgynous Display, you know it's just like this ritual and yeah, everyone just like lights up You know all the conspiracy channels is light up like a Christmas tree over this that starts

15:16 you see it ramping up around the same time that the initiative to have the NFL players stand for the national anthem. So, it's very curious and very interesting to me that these really ostentatious Roman imperial pagan ritual displays start ramping up and getting really in your face at the same time this military involvement in the NFL takes off. So I don't think that's a coincidence, and again this is topic for entirely different program but look how these things particularly with the halftime shows have really taken off

16:00 And you see the manufactured controversies about them, controversy about the symbolism with Beyoncé and Black Lives Matter. But really what she was doing was military drills with her dancers! I mean it's all this militarism and regimentation that we're seeing in conjunction with this like really bizarre and flagrant ritual paganism It is strange man and you're right that could be a whole show on its own. And I do want to get into the big thing we're going to talk about because it is lengthy, and it's this siren saga

16:41 I've been reading it, this epic synchromystic web revolving around the song to The Siren that you've been writing about. It weaves through several musical artists from Jeff Buckley and the Cocktoo Twins all the way up to Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington. And it is a hell of a ride with a web of connections and sinks involving The Siren and water and drowning. And it's just mind-blowing! And it's a pretty big story And you refer to it as a great case study. And I guess, what would you say this is a great case study of? Because sometimes it's really hard to get a clear picture of what we're seeing even when we notice the connections like What sort of perspective or worldview does a story like this work to validate

17:22 So in other words what the hell is christian ranting on about five months well to be honest with you it's been something that i've been trying to wrap my head around because i didn't expect to be working on this i didn't expect these symbols to show up and i did expecting the shop the way they did. Basically, you know what I would sum it up as the elevator pitch here is that this is the apocalypse. The siren is the whore of Babylon and the song to the siren is a prophecy of death. That's pretty much in a nutshell. You know, it's a lot more complicated than that but that's basically what we're looking at right? As strange as that sounds It's taken me five months to sort

18:04 summate all this because when you're in the middle of it, it's hard to get perspective on it. But that's pretty much what we're looking at." Right on. Yeah, I'm you know as a guy who gets kind of icky feelings around religion it is kind of frustrating but interesting to see that basically everything seems to be coming to that like all the roads lead to the elite have some type of hidden religion i don't even know if you can really put a name on exactly what it is it seems to be pieced together from several different things but they've got some religion and they're very obsessed with making it manifest or running cycles and programs

18:41 Speak to it. I guess yeah, and the siren is just it's an incarnation of one of the oldest gods that we have in history And that's a Nana the Sumerian goddess of sex and love and war Who was very central? In the formation of what is called the Akkadian Empire under a guy We've talked about before which is Sargon the great so this goes all the way back This goes all the way back to What a lot of people see is the dawn of civilization and culminates with Ishtar and the Babylonian Empire. And I really see so many footprints of

19:27 this Babylon worship out there. I mean, there's no other way I can really put it! You showed me that Citadel shopping center which is basically a Sumerian temple designed for an outlet mall which is just incredibly bizarre and strange. And of course we have the Babylon gate in the backyard of the old Masonic Temple where they have the Oscars every year It's kind of thing where these things just pop up over and over again, and your natural inclination towards skepticism And disbelief just kind of has to crumble away because we see the same motifs being hit on the head over and over again. You just have to think at some point well this means something to somebody they're not going through all this trouble as A joke that trying to play on us This is real and The Siren which is now the most ubiquitous

20:21 Corporate symbol in the world or one of them. It's becoming one of them through its association with stark Stargate It doesn't have an association with target, but it's association with Starbucks I mean you know we're seeing this everywhere and this is how these things happen you are a methodically indoctrinated or initiated into these symbols and icons. And of course, we have mermaid mania where mermaids are just everywhere all the time. There are actually four Little Mermaid movies in production right now. There's a Little Mermaid ballet. There's a series coming up called Siren on Disney. It's just everywhere you look all the time. There's a mermaid parade in Brooklyn. I mean...

21:09 Unbelievable. It's like nothing I've ever seen, but this is how these things become dominance, how they come archetypal dominance and what we are seeing now is the rise of an archetypal dominant in the siren which despite what you might see in the media with Little Mermaid stuff it's actually a very dangerous and unpleasant motif. Mermaids were not Ariel. They were creatures who lured sailors to their deaths and then ate them, I mean that's what they were! That's what we're talking about. And the consort of this ties into the whole idea of the shepherd boy consort that has accompanied all the various permutations of this god

21:54 S is this evil clown dominant that we're also seeing rising concurrently. You know, we're also seeing rising with the runaway success of this movie It which is just drenched in water and water symbolism so obviously a tie-in here And what I would point to as the origin of that is that the Shepard boy consort who died, went to hell and was reborn was the source of April Fool's Day. There was a Roman holiday called the Hilaria where these women would celebrate his resurrection and that is

22:30 Really the source where you see the fool and the tarot all this full clown. Symbolism really kind of ties back to that yeah that is such an interesting angle too and of course, do we talk about this particular story of jeff and tim buckley and cocktail twins we really have to cut it down to just a core story because it has so many tangents but one of those tangences Heath Ledger, who played the Joker based off The Killing Joke. Killing Joke was also a band and there's connections there as well and it does seem like in this core story we're talking about some kind of entity the Song of the Siren being some type of spell or having some type of power but as you put it in your blogs it seems to have over the course of this story claimed a few trophies yeah it seems to be running around collecting them which is really kind of upsetting

23:25 This all started for me when Chris Cornell died. And my first post on it, I was just kind of talking about depression and opioid withdrawal and things like that. I wasn't really looking at this at all. I was just looking at his death. My feelings on that have evolved. I mean, I don't think he was murdered by the Illuminati but you know, my feelings on his death have evolved from the post that I originally did, that I wrote on this. But that's the beauty of a blog is that it's charting sort of an evolution of thought but the Chris Cornell stuff i wasn't really processing until I found out that he was really really close to Jeff Buckley so much so that he had become his executor almost. He was producing and managing all of Jeff Buckley's reissues and I thought okay

24:15 That's the signal. That's what really kind of started it off and just to show you how this all evolved, I found that out and then i did some digging and I found out that exactly where he died was the setting for an old Indian Native American legend about a siren-like figure who lures this mythical figure called The Keeper to his death Chris Cornell had a single called The Keeper where he sings, I am the keeper. And it's just like whoa stop wait a minute what is this? And then you find out that right across the street practically from where he died at the MGM Grand Hotel it should be opening right about now they're opening what's called The Siren Hotel and you just go okay here we are

25:08 Let it rip. I mean and it just goes on from there so finding out that he had died around You know at that time It was getting close to the 20th anniversary of Jeff Buckley's drowning death in Memphis And of course we have the Memphis. I mean, he literally died in Right beneath the Memphis pyramid is that big giant? Pyramid reproduction on the Wolf River in Memphis. That's now owned by Bass Pro Shops I mean, that's literally where Jeff Buckley died And it just goes on from there and it goes on in such a way that I could never encapsulate it all in a podcast It's so huge

25:46 and tendrils just seem to run everywhere. And then, you know I mean we're talking about Chris Cornell's death which was a huge news story! Everywhere all across the mainstream and then Chester Bennington stepped on top of that? This was huge so this is how these archetypal dominants choose to reinsert themselves into the mainstream culture through these kind of events. And of course, Chris Cornell's death coincided with the premiere of Twin Peaks which also has a huge tie into the song to The Siren and Elizabeth Frazier and the Cocteau Twins and on and on and on so it's literally something we could just do like a week of podcasts on but basically what we're talking about here is

26:32 a spell, a magical spell that starts off with this song. But there's a huge presence of mind control! You're not only suggestive and implied but explicit. Mind control MKUltra all that kind of stuff but this ties into my personal views on MKUltra that things that we associate maybe more with Artichoke and Bluebird and mkSearch and on You know, they were basically spent 25 years and a whole ton of the government's money pretending that they were looking for technology that they already knew. I mean 1000 years ago the assassins had perfected mind control and mind control assassin. This is not a secret! They didn't need to do this And then as far as the interrogation aspect of this people have talked about

27:27 Yeah, I mean this was all stuff that the Nazis were doing all the time during World War two so MK ultra is something else and I'll tell you where I'm going with this because I'm going to be posting on this and The post will go up probably before this podcast goes up. But Mk Ultra really starts with Alan Dulles in Switzerland in Bern Switzerland spending every single day talking to Carl Jung And Carl Jung was also treating Alan Dulles' mistress. And then we also, of course have Sandoz and Albert Hoffman and the bicycle ride blah blah blah blah blah. See I don't think that

28:08 These people were just worried about mind control and mind control assassins and interrogation. I think that their ambitions were far grander, more disturbing, and more all-encompassing than that. And i've always thought that because we have the tie ins to Stargate and remote viewing and on and on and on...I really think this was about the recreation of the world Literally, and starting from the ground up. Starting with the mind And maybe a lot of people might think that's a little over the top, but that's what I honestly believe. Well, I'm with you man and we will get to how that happens basically starting with that Millennium Dome show and the way it connects to the larger Song Of The Siren story But if we are going to have the song itself be the core, be the connective tissue this song perhaps as a spell or a totem or a vessel for some entity to extract some influence

29:08 Where does the song story start a fairly weird place, right? Yeah extremely weird place it starts with the final episode of The Monkees television show and in case some of your listeners might be too young to remember this The Monkeys was a knockoff for the Beatles created for network television wildly popular insanely popular I mean it was a point where every single they were putting out went right into the top ten Big big deal. This was of course at the end of their run, you know When only maybe like 20 million people watching it rather than 40 final episode and what is it about? Oh hey It's about MK ultra what a surprise Literally what it's about. It's about this mad scientist

29:55 who is using television to control the minds and put people in trances. But he's doing so using alien technology, he actually kidnaps an alien who has crashed into his flying saucer! Of course. I mean this is like at least 10 years before anybody was talking about Roswell they're talking about this okay gee what's that all about? So mind control Kidnapped alien reverse engineered alien technology it's like. Are you kidding me? And then, you know the monkeys defeat all this and they feed the mad scientist in his MK Ultra program with a all-encompassing power of marijuana. Cheers! Yeah which they call Frodus that was their code name when they're on set doing the show their code name for marijuana was Frodus huh so the episode is called The Frodus Caper The Frodus Caper and interestingly enough you know you have the letters for Frazier in there oh just a coincidence

30:56 So anyway, at the end of this episode, this bizarre episode which is like something out of Cosmic Trigger or something. Tim Buckley who was a popular folk singer in Los Angeles never really made it big but Mickey Dolenz of The Monkees thought this would be a great place for him to make his debut and he makes his debut With the song song to the siren which actually no one had ever heard before except for that he and the people in his band so he premieres this on at the end of this whole extravaganza and it's just dirt which is based on. The classical greek myth of the siren which we read about me out of sea

31:39 And it's basically a love story between him and the siren, but she's luring him to his death. And he knows that he's being lured to his death but he doesn't care I mean that's basically what the song is about It's about him going through all these stages of confusion about you know...I know this siren is going to kill me do I fall under this spell? He does. And, you know a few years later he dies of heroin overdose so it's like oh god okay well that's interesting but that's like how it all starts you know that's the birth So it goes on from there I mean these are these are the themes that we're looking at and it goes on from there

32:19 Right and it is kind of a lot to take in like you've been saying when I first started reading it. I was kind of like Well, where's he going with this? I don't know any of these bands. I don't know who the hell Tim or Jeff Buckley are I'm just unfamiliar with all the characters but Once you really get into it It is so amazing really so we have Tim Buckley this folk singer He sings the song to The Siren on TV and then The next stage would be at being covered by elizabeth fraser of the cocktail twins right that's kind of a she is really one of the most central figures in the whole story yet she seems to be.

32:57 I always say, hope the gods never notice you. Hope the spirits never notice you. Hope they never choose you to express themselves through it never ends well. You know if you read the Bible, the prophets really don't have very happy lives. It's just...you don't want the gods to notice you. I mean hide from them like just don't let them notice you noticing them. Just to back it up she is a woman with a very troubled Upbringing very troubled past she had several nervous breakdowns later on in her career. She had come to believe that she had been sexually molested by her father and by her brother-in-law. And she was eventually, I mean, she's part of a large Catholic family in a very grim industrial suburb in Scotland. She gets into the punk scene and she's thrown out of the house at 16. And she's very, very reticent to reveal much about herself

33:56 background, there's very little known about her. I mean we just have no information except for these snippets from interviews so she is a troubled girl sexually abused into drugs apparently is quite violent which is all very funny when you see her videos because you get no sense of that but this shows you that were looking at the case study in dissociation Had been seen as sort of a bully and school just falls off the map falls off the radar for awhile until she appears in this.

34:31 post-punk band called the Cocteau Twins, kind of like a post punk goth noise. I mean they're very their early material is very abrasive it's very dark and they're instantly signed up by a record label in London and they instantly become the toast to town now that BBC is having them do concerts on Sunday night and Saturday night. Like no other show this story you've ever heard of where they make a demo in their bedroom literally and all the sudden there, the toast to the town so it's very strange story but here is the thing and let's get back to mk ultra again not a lot of people realize that mkl didn't really stop.

35:14 In scotland the UK there's a lot of information that it went on. Probably into the eighties at least into the early eighties particularly in scotland you and cameron who also studied under young at the burgosy and switzerland yes we have that mk ultra allen dollars connection again, You and cameron basically live right up the street from elizabeth frasier i mean they lived in the same county there with twenty minutes away from each other but you and cameron was no he died nineteen sixty nine but you is also known to have used garden able royal hospital lennox castle hospital for

35:56 He is particularly brutal form of repatterning as he called it which was basically instilling a dissociative state in very vulnerable people, particularly women. He seemed to be particularly interested in women, particularly interested in young women There is a lot of anecdotal and otherwise information that the young girls at the Montreal operation were being sexually abused at the same time they were being tortured But he was after something. He was not after mind control. I mean how do I put this?

36:36 What I believe personally, what you and Cameron is actually after is he's after breaking through to the other side. Like I honestly believe that and if you look this was not something just popped up. Go back to the Victorian era we have all these stories about traumatized children particularly traumatized girls finding themselves wandering into another dimension. You know Alice in Wonderland Peter Pan You know, later we have Wizard of Oz Chronicles and Narnia Stranger Things. Oh hey I mean this you know fringe i mean this just pops up over and over again and if you really read the information about Ewan Cameron's operation you go This is not mind control! This is not...I mean this is like this is crazy but let me tell you what it also reminded me of and would really put me on this Is that reminds me of Rites Of Passage

37:35 of shamanic initiation. See, I have a little saying that goes, shamanic initiation is just a fancy way of saying torturing children because that's how shamans throughout history and throughout various cultures have been initiated by being tortured, poisoned, raped all sorts of horrible things happening and you know of course for our purposes the most troubling example of this, not necessarily shamanic but certainly transformative initiation is of course Sparta where young boys were just

38:17 not only were they just sex toys for these huge monster soldiers, they were also tortured. I mean literally tortured all the time and it's just horrific when you read about... You see a movie like 300 and you go oh look at those heroic Greek warriors! No that's not what Sparta was really about it was horrible. It was like Pizzagate times a billion. I mean this is crazy so yeah I have no definitive evidence that Elizabeth Frazier fell into one of these still-operating MKUltra programs that were going on in her neighborhood at that time, but you know, I also know that she exhibited signs of extreme dissociation and kind of made dissociation her art.

39:08 Which we see a lot with people who are survivors of this kind of abuse. Right, so many pop stars have done the split personality thing Yeah but she did it for real I mean that's like they're going oh i want to do Bowie and Ziggy Stardust you know? Like Lady Gaga Beyonce blah blah blah blah blah I mean you know It doesn't interest me because its not real Its a pose Pre fab it's almost like one of the boxes you have to tick off to be a pop star these days. Right it's like the commercialization of what for some people was very real trauma and very real torture yes absolutely so we know that elizabeth ratio spent

39:53 Three at least three stints in the trauma ward and i don't need to laugh about it just goes to show you that this is real but this isn't like. What are publicist told she should be doing and she also underwent like a series of very radical and extreme kind of transformations, Particularly early on a career where she's got like sides of her head is shaved it's almost like a mohawk and she's wearing like fishnet stockings and leather minis, and you know she's acting very provocatively. And then she sort of becomes almost overnight this victorian fantasy this victorian china doll

40:31 And she's presented it, you know. I mean she but the thing is that okay so you go oh that stylist its designers? I mean this is how the music industry works and we saw the same thing with Nicki Minaj where she sort of starts off as this very androgynous kind of street rapper and then they get to work and they reinvent her but in this case It wasn't just at her style and her You know persona. Yeah, the look was well let me get back to that I mean it's not just like her look which you know Her hair and makeup was done differently and she was wearing different clothes She literally just looks like an entirely different person And there are several stages a little like she looks entirely different when you see her on television performing live

41:16 And then when you see her in the song to the siren video it looks like an entirely different person and she just goes through these stages where. Not only is there a hair and makeup changing but it's almost seems like the structure of your face is changing and the other bizarre thing this isn't really kicked at all for me is that her eyes, Are just insane. I mean not like you know, you see people with crazy eyes Maybe starry eyes people would maybe schizophrenia sort of develop this? I mean it literally looked like she is not human She's not human You kind of catch glimpses of this and she's obviously very self-conscious about it But you'll just see these freeze frames in these videos and you go Okay, that's not a human being that's alien. I've never seen anything like this in my life where somebody just looks like

42:01 If you sort of broke it down and you weren't thought about, okay. Well that looks human. And then you look at these eyes and you go, that's not a human being Jesus man. And you can see this. I mean, you can go on YouTube and see this thing. You know, I've taken screenshots of its and it just like what the hell are those things in the middle of her face? They're not eyes they're like, I don't know what the hell they are. This was one video. One of their better known songs have been Las Vegas which also plays symbiotically and thematically into this whole storyline Her eyes just look like they're incandescent. It's really weird and this is before indie music videos were being made with heavy CGI and stuff, you just look at these eyes and go why do they seem to be giving off light? This is weird! So again I mean this is all interpretation and maybe personal opinion or whatever but it's just like...I just looked in her eye and went what the hell is going on that's not

43:00 That's an a- You know what it looks like? I'll tell you what it looks like. Anybody who has watched the show Supernatural, when one of the characters is possessed by an angel their eyes start to glow and they're weird in there kind of white light. And that's what they look like except for its real so it just like maybe this is based...you know that whole trope is based on something real. Right yeah Extremely rare but real Well, right. And so to get to the story of Frasier as some type of vessel for a siren-type entity and this song being some type of spell or totem... Yeah anyone who hasn't heard of The Cocteau Twins or Frasier do go listen to some stuff because her voice is very eerily siren like there's a lot of howling a lot of wailing and in times she didn't even sing in English but you know I guess

43:57 other aspect we should talk about that's very relevant is the death. Yeah, Frazier covered Tim Buckley song of the siren because that very song prompted his son Jeff Buckley another artist to discover Elizabeth Frazier and become attracted to her they had a very intense romance and then the icing on the siren cake given the punchline well the punch line is that he drowns I mean he drowned not only does he drowned but he drowns underneath the pyramid in Memphis. Memphis, which is of course named after the ancient city strongly associated with Osiris and he also died on the eve of this weird secret society festival that they have in Memphis where they all name themselves you know with a crew of Osiris with a crew of Ra I mean all this like heavy Egyptian symbolism He died on the eve of that

44:53 And you're just like, okay. But the other interesting thing is that he died on Garland's day in the UK which was a day that offerings were made to Poseidon and the implication here is that nearly days this human sacrifices were made to Poseidon especially when you see how Garland's Day plays out The interesting thing of course here Is that the first Cocteau Twins album which has all kinds stuff about human sacrifice and people drowning in rivers is named Garland's. So, okay like what's this all about? And of course we have Garland Briggs in Twin Peaks which also plays into this it's just like this can't be real! This can't be happening

45:37 It's just too weird. And it's like, well people say okay well this happens all the time you know you're just cherry picking things and then you go well show me when else it happened like this I mean show me how else it plays out like this methodically Step by step like this and then they go okay well maybe it doesn't. Right it's like a real world version of the siren motif, the structure is right there man sings song woman covers song man son falls in love with woman and ultimately drowns and in fact his drowning story Is that he was pulled under they say by the wake of a boat but the motif is he was literally pulled under the water and that's like. The same kind of thing it's just very creepy story when you tie in the way she sings and then she possibly could have been channeling something actually wrote that,

46:32 In a 1984 interview, Frazier herself says that she believes she was channeling another force or entity and she claimed her music quote wrote itself. And so this is like where I wonder what was her awareness in the situation? Like what do you think? A lot of her lyrics were about witchcraft weren't they? Yeah, a lot of the early songs are at witchcraft and another early song on an EP which is all about drowning and rivers is called The Last Dies Laughing And the last dies laughing, you know I sort of spell out how the symbolism in the lyrics basically point to exactly where Jeff Buckley died. You know? This isn't the only song that does this. The lyrics in this song show you exactly where he's going to die in 16 years from when the song was recorded and the chorus to the song which she repeats

47:22 I don't know, a hundred times is wake takes. Wake takes a lonely one. Wake takes the lonely one. Wake takes the lonely one over and over again." And when you listen to recording this she almost sounds like she's in trance! She does not sound like she does on these other records where it's just Kind of Eddie Van Halen of the vocal cords is spraying things all over the place. I mean, it sounds like she's in trance and she saying wait takes a lonely one meaning somebody is going to die when they get caught up in awake because you know lyrics before she lurches into the course go tides touching walls. So the water is overtaking this person and it's so scary I mean, it scares me like people go you know whatever who cares let's go see it no this scares me because this is real and The other thing when you talk about the lyrics in the song titles, we have sea swallow me she will destroy you

48:21 One of the best songs which is kind of like if you were listening to ABBA doing Dancing Queen But you are on ecstasy like a lot of ecstasy. That's what this song kind of sounds like I mean, it's just like oh my god It's an orgasm but it's called Lorelei and Lorelei is the German incarnation of siren? I believe this isn't the ring cycle in Wagner's Ring Cycle but it gets even creepier it gets even weirder because So what had happened is that she had this relationship with Jeff Buckley. And this name doesn't mean anything to people nowadays, but he was a really big deal in the mid-90's like the post grunge era. A lot of celebrities Brad Pitt Jimmy Page

49:07 Johnny Depp a lot of like these kind of Hollywood in type guys who think they're rockers were really Really seriously into this guy and the first time I heard him I go Jesus guy sounds like he listened to what shit on a cocktail to his records But anyway, so what happened is that she fell in love with him? And I mean she really fell in love with them. I mean she fell in love with him Like you read an old fairy tales She's just Crazy crazy crazy fell in love with this guy and he was kind of in love with her but he's a rock star and his. He's doing the notches in the bedpost deal. I mean, you know he's a rock star Who's that young hip thing and like chicks have just thrown themselves at him? So he's like okay You know this really weird girl Woman at this point time there's really weird women She's really interesting but she's really intense and she's kind of crazy And I think she's possessed so I'm gonna go have sex with this other singer named Joan Wasser Wasser which means water in German hmm, so he breaks up with her and

50:10 And the first thing she does is record a batch of songs, sort of my least favorite song she ever sang. But they're all about why don't you love me? Please take me back. She's actually singing in English now and she's like why don't you love me anymore I still love you. You know I hate you I love you. Just all these kind of songs that you would imagine somebody singing after really intense breakup but the creepy thing about it there's nothing in this story that isn't creepy She makes a long form video to go along with this and the opening image is of a river. I mean, it's like digitally messed up with sparkles and all this kind of stuff but it's a river And then you know this sort of the credit sequence for this long form video and ends with a sunset so it starts at the river ends in the sunset Jeff Buckley dies in a river at sunset

51:03 So I mean, that's how creepy this is. Two years later by the way and also throw in that heaven or Las Vegas album element because that also is about the river and where he died Yeah road river and rail which The title there Describes exactly I mean exactly where he died He died in the wolf river In between an overpass for a road and an overpass for monorail. What are those things called? Monorails, like a rail. So you know, you get to see this visually because I show it on the blog. It's road literally like checking off boxes wrote okay there is a road there is the river there is a rail one two three bum bum bum and your going like oh okay but the song before that was called Wolf in the Breast wolf in the breast he dies in the wolf river in a river

51:53 Underneath the road and a rail. Okay So that's kind of weird and those are the eighth and ninth songs on the album, right? Well That's the other thing is that they're the eighth and ninth songs in the album And this is back in the day when people were still buying cassettes and it's the third and the fourth Song on the cassette and you know 34 North 89 West is the source of the Wolf River where this guy died So it's just like it never like a lot of ants. Yeah, no I'm serious But it gets worse or better. I mean depending on your point of view so The last song so we have wolf in the breast You know the Wolf River in the breasts in your chest and your lungs Road River and rail where it happens

52:35 But the song after that is called Fru-Fru Foxes and Midsummer Fires. And you think, well Jesus, I mean that sounds ridiculous but does that have to do with anything? Well i'll tell you exactly what it has to do with! It has to do with Chris Cornell's death and you're like wait what?! Okay Chris Cornell dies at the MGM Grand Hotel after performing at The Fox Theater okay so there are foxes this our foxes element And across the street from the Fox Theater is St. John's Church and you go, what does that have to do anything? Well the midsummer fires isn't just people lighting fires in the middle of July. I mean, it's a day it's St John's Day so it's like oh wait a minute so the Fox Theater is across three from Saint John's Church so you have foxes midsummer fires you know very specific and you go okay well could be random chance what about this frou-frou thing what the hell is that? Well

53:32 Well, frou-frou is a terminology from French fashion. You know something's frou-frou it's got a lot of ribbons and bows and rhinestones or whatever I mean it's very fancy yeah now what does that have to do with Chris Cornell? Well Chris Cornell used to own a restaurant in Paris where was the restaurant he was in the Fashion District so you go wait a minute... So its who it is and where it happens You know, the probability quotient here is really starting to dissolve. You know what I'm saying? So you think well so that's Chris Cornell what does it have to do anything? Well like i said Chris Cornell was really super close to Jeff Buckley! So close to Jeff Buckley that when he went on tour in 2011 He actually took this phone with him and it was Jeff Buckley's phone. He had this red kind of old school phone

54:29 that Chris Cornell had on stage with him throughout this entire tour, because he said he kept it because he was always expecting Jeff to call him. How creepy and weird is that? You know what I'm saying? So this is how intense their relationship was. He's taking Jeff Buckley's telephone and putting it on a stool next to him while he's performing his acoustic tour so it's just like Oh, okay. And believe me this is just the tip of the iceberg it just goes up and down the line and really what this all culminates in I'll just sort of back end this a little for you is that we're talking about this on my Facebook group and people are like freaking out as these things just piled up one on top of the other and I said This is leading to something bad Something very big and something very bad is going to happen and it's gonna have something to do with the siren

55:18 you're going to know this has something to do with a siren. And it's going to be big and it's going to be bad." Sure enough, right after Twin Peaks ends — I think even while it was ending — we had these hurricanes starting with Harvey, Jose, Maria and Katia all of which have pretty direct... You break down the names in the origins they sort of all tie into this constellation of goddesses that have incarnated themselves as a siren now and incarnated themselves as the Sirens back in ancient Rome, as well. And it's all tying in but the thing is that people go okay well that's

55:56 Open to interpretation. Well, what does this have to do with you know hurricanes and siren? Well the siren mermaids on and on and on were responsible Said to be responsible for storms storms at sea Hurricanes Yeah I mean This is sailors believe not only did these mermaid sirens lure you to your death And then eat you they also created these horrible storms which which sank your boat and then you drowned, and then they ate you. And of course, there's that new Netflix show The Santa Clarita Diet about a woman who must eat human flesh. And it's all set in a quirky suburban type of dark comedy landscape but again it's the woman who is leading people to their death and then eating them. It was just so crazy! Yeah, it goes on from there though because this Polish movie called The Lure which is about these two sirens

56:54 Gee, become 80s pop stars. You know, 80s new wave pop stars who would ever make that association? No, I mean who doesn't think of 80s pop stars when you think of the siren right so That's weird. We have a TV show called The Siren, which is going to be on the new Disney Channel I think early next year. This stuff is everywhere! It's so pervasive that you don't think about it because it's all packaged in this like, oh mermaids are happy and better buy a tail and go to the pool. No, mermaids are like...you die and get eaten. This is dark. This is the apocalypse I love this case study man because conspiracy folks are always trying to pick apart the symbols in music, in particular and they'll look at you know like pyramids around the eye or Rockefeller rather records or a do what thou wilt chain or something. And that's interesting it shows they clearly have knowledge of this stuff

57:49 but you're talking about the case study of a specific spell and ritual, like a full closed loop. I love the term that this entity is collecting trophies because we're seeing deaths associated spiraling out from the creation of this song and this is what those music analysts should be looking at if they really are all into magic in the occult and rituals well where is the evidence of that? This is that evidence it's right here That's my entire point right because I've always seen that stuff over the years and this is where it really started It really started with a guy who I had some contact with named Ben Singleton He was a high school student from Britain and he had this blog called pseudo occult media And he sort of lapsed onto this whole thing with monarch and MK ultra and the pop stars and all the symbolism

58:41 And then, you know, Vigilant Citizen comes along and sort of strip mines the entire synchromystic community. Stole a bunch of stuff from me. Stole pretty much his entire thesis from Ben Singleton and then it's off to the races because what happens is that It becomes viral on the internet and then all these producers, designers and promoters go, oh well let's start doing this intentionally. I think a lot of it was intentional from the beginning but they started doing it and then it just becomes all pervasive but you can trace

59:18 You can trace the steps of that. It's out there, it's just people doing things... nothing really terribly unusual about that. It's how culture is formed. What comes up from the counterculture and works its way into the mainstream? Of course what came out from the counterculture was incredibly toxic and evil and horrible but here we are! But it's interesting the thing with Monarch because I've always been like, not really down with a monarch thing. Not that I don't believe that something like that could happen and I'm just talking about the particular presentation that we saw in Kathy O'Brien book just stretch my credulity to the breaking point. And it's not just me, I mean it's Jim Keefe. Jim Keefe is of course dead now because that's what happens with people who really know what's going on. Jim Keefe died at Burning Man by the way or his cause of death came from Burning Man and of course we saw the human sacrifice at Burning Man this year. Right guy ran into a fire? Yeah from McAllister Oklahoma. McAllister! I mean gee thats interesting Possessed to run into a fire

1:00:19 Yeah, that's creepy as hell. But this is 2017! Of course that had to happen because this is where we are but no I was gonna say about Monarch you know I've always been kind of skeptical about it and I've always kind of felt like Mark Phillips was just kinda like...I mean rest his soul he just recently passed away but I always think that he didn't really exactly take the stuff seriously and he's having a laugh People disagree with me fine, but you monarch butterfly symbolism which we see all over fringe of course Which is all about mind control abused girl who can cross dimensions? Of course because that's what it has to be cuz what story isn't about that right But the whole idea of Monarch and butterflies Elizabeth Frazier

1:00:59 pretty much wrote an entire album with butterfly symbolism in it. And one of these songs is called Plain Tiger, and plain tiger is a type of monarch butterfly so you know circumstantial kind of symbolic maybe a little bit more but maybe it's kind of pointing to something a little right heck you know like It wouldn't surprise me if monarch symbolism was really heavily used in MKUltra, MKOffin whatever sort of grew out of that But I'm not really buying at least that version of the monarch story that you know, they're worth in there with just because You know like Jim Keith said she has this photographic memory about everything and can remember every Detail of everything that ever happened her but she can never describe where it happens She could never describe when an army base looks like. I mean all these kind of things we just kind of go No, no, you know what? Right

1:01:52 It's like kinda over the top and dramatic in a little commercialized but at its core there is some real truth some real threads running through it just kind of like another analogy could be the pizza gate thing we know they are abusing children but that got spun off into a weird area and. It culminated of course in that shooter going in there which then makes it a hush-hush thing and scary to talk about. And we should have some responsibility for the claims we're making because we might set off some crazy person, that becomes the story but the core there is as old as time elite people abusing children

1:02:29 Yeah, and not only abusing children but often abuse like I said with this whole shamanic thing with certain Buddhist monasteries certainly monasteries of all types. You know with a purpose they believe that children are kind of the gateway to this alternate reality right break the kids and break open the construct Exactly. Not only break open the contract, but they think that it can open stargates. It can open portals somehow I mean that's literally how Extreme the thinking is how just completely like okay? You know That's how crazy you can get yeah But you know in this case we have this woman and let me just back this up people Think well who is this woman who cares about this woman? You know she's nobody whatever um She sang the what is used for the theme song for house MD which

1:03:20 Which was one of the I think it was the most watched show in the world at a certain point in time and its run The theme song to that she sings and if you go to YouTube And look up that video that she sings on. I think it's had over 50 million views by now, so This isn't just completely obscure indie nonsense I'm ranting on about here. Right, and so we went through that core story Tim Buckley writes the song Elizabeth Frazier covers it his son falls in love with her and eventually is drowned in a river And now this little saga It also ties into maybe what we could call the big picture when you add in that chapter about The Millennium Dome show right?

1:04:04 Yeah, well I'm gonna get to that in just a second. Sure thing I want to back this up Is that like so what he drowns in a river that happens? Well, that's how these shepherd boy Consorts of these goddesses in the siren lineage usually die classic example is Osiris But the other thing here and this is how creepy it gets Buckley first of all Jeff Buckley as a stage name his real name was Scott Moorhead and And, you know it's a whole other way where she seems to have anticipated that. But Scott Moorhead becomes Jeff Buckley and takes on his father's name and his middle name. The thing is is that Buckley means shepherd boy so he's not only, you know, a shepherd boy symbolically in this whole drama we're unveiling here. That's literally what his surname means in Gaelic. It means shepherd boy now

1:04:54 The other interesting thing with Frasier, and we have Elizabeth where we have the Virgin Queen of Shakespearean Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth I. And then we have this Queen Elizabeth now who just doesn't seem to ever die. I don't know what she is. She's like a Cylon or something. She just continues on forever. So it ties into that whole Elizabethan motif But the surname here, Frazier comes from the French word for strawberry. It's actually a French Norman name for strawberry and strawberries you know so what? Strawberries whatever. Strawberries were sacred to Venus in Roman times and of course Venus has Adonis who is her shepherd boy lover who dies literally I mean this all probably sounds completely insane to a lot of your listeners but just take my word for it every single detail in this story just lines up exactly in ways that

1:05:46 Your head starts to spin. It's crazy, and I could go on and on about all the songs that presage all this. Well to give just one more example can you tell them about the Kissed Out Red Float Boat because that is a great one? Oh Kissed out red float boat is crazy so Jeff Buckley dies in the Wolf River underneath the pyramid which is now on by bass pro shops so he dies and his body is discovered a few days later first of all this is like there's like a police operation like you've never seen, huge search for this. I mean helicopters divers boats everything because they couldn't find this guy five days later he washes up at the foot of Beale Street and if anybody's familiar with Memphis and Beale Street in the blues and all that kind of thing it just goes on and on but he's discovered by

1:06:37 somebody aboard the American Queen riverboat, which is a very famous river boat on the Mississippi River. It's well known for its water wheel, The Red Water Wheel." Now you think what's the significance of that? Well she had written this song in 1988 for an album called Bluebell Knoll And Bluebell Noel also ties into the hurricanes, but that might be a story for another day. Bluebell Noel is another death omen and it's a Scottish death omen. But the point is, the song Kiss That Red Float Boat is a weird song because the music is like oh my God this is my best day ever soundtrack you know? Oh hey things are great look at the sunset! You know that kind of thing but the lyrics which are very obscured basically her singing about how her husband and songwriting partner cheating on her

1:07:22 and she's really upset about it. She's singing in this same cadence that she sings Song to the Siren, so it's almost a sequel to Song for the Siren in a way. She's kind of singing about he loves you and he doesn't love me—it's really sad! But the significance of Float Boat is that those paddles on the boat They're called floats. That's the technical term for the paddles on a river wheel, so... And it's red right? Yeah and it's red! It's red. It's a red boat with red floats I mean oh you know and kissed out means like something that you're done with So it's kind of like this cumulative effect but just the fact that it's got that title that points to where exactly where his body found on top of the 10 million other details that tell you everything is about to happen in this story

1:08:15 And then the way it ends, you know It's like a kissed out red float boat and he's kissed out. He's dead. He's drowned it's horrible But he's discovered by you know The Red Float Boat and then when you read the lyrics it's all about You don't love me? You love her and this is at a time when he was having a relationship with Joan Wasser after he broke up with Elizabeth Frazier So I mean the whole thing the cumulative effect of it is just it almost kind of instills disbelief just through cognitive dissonance because It just piles up. Just as a quick aside, she sang another song where she's absolutely channeling the siren I will go to the mat on this it's creepy as hell and you read the lyrics and the chorus is come feel the deep

1:08:57 Come feel the deep come die. Come around, you know I am this iron and i'm calling you to your death That's literally what the lyrics are it's really creepy and disturbing And then the ep that the song is released The song was recorded for is released and a couple days later jeff buckley and joan wasser almost drowned off gold coast beach in australia So it's like she's saying, you know die. It's time to die now! And he almost dies, I mean this is the first time he almost drowns and then the second time was when it actually happened but again it's this whole cumulative effect The other song on that EP aside from the single

1:09:38 the song that's specifically about him. And there are all sorts of lyrical cues that you know, this is specifically about Jeff Buckley and like last thing she sings as you know the song fades out if she singing stay Stay, stay with me don't go with her it's so incredibly sad and tragic in a human level. And then the next song is like I am the siren. It's time for you to die! It is, it's so layered and i do want to get to the millennium dome thing but one more layer is that after Buckley died she only released two songs under her name singles called underwater and Moses yeah

1:10:17 Yes, I wonder if she like might have maybe in hindsight realized what had happened or maybe once the spirit left her she realized oh my god there was something going on. I was possessed i don't know how she's put these pieces together because I feel like you know this with some type of magic I don't think she's happy with the result cuz she lost a great love to yeah no she definitely not just one thing pray that God never notice you especially prayer that they never choose to use us about salt because Nothing good ever comes of it. And you know, all our myths and religions tell us this right? All the way back yeah It's horribly sad not only did this happen these horrible things happen But it also just seemed to have taken away her musical gifts Her voice was just kind of gone but oh the other thing I should mention as I talked about that theme song for house MD She recorded that it's a song You know yet another song about Jeff Buckley that she recorded with massive attack literally as he was drowning

1:11:16 Like, that's literally when she recorded it. So she talks about this on the Jeff Buckley documentary so it's like she singing a song and its one of these songs you know You Didn't Really Love Me The Way You Should Have and this kind of thing. This song is called Teardrops pretty well known song in some circles and she's recording as he's actually drowning It's just, it never ends man. And- No! It literally never ends and that's the thing that people like I said people will hear this and go this guy is nuts! This guys off his rocker what the hell is he talking about? An then you just see objective facts pile up and you go alright he's not nuts

1:11:56 And another one that just popped in my head because I've just read so many from the blog. There was a time where the Cocteau Twins added a new member, which obviously doesn't happen a whole lot in a lot of bands and this one in particular it doesn't happen a whole lot but the guy's previous band was Drowning Craze Yeah and oh by the way they added him right after they recorded Song to The Siren I mean shit literally never ends it never ends and it's scary and creepy you think why did they choose her she's not beyond say she is not which for most of recreation had horrible stage fright you start to sing.

1:12:33 on stage, you know they hated making videos. I mean this is not a group that is going to become like a mainstream group first of all the core their career their best records are all really really strange and weird and You know, they just did not rock stars there, you know The studio rats but like I said This is how it happens, you know, you don't plant a redwood. You know what? I'm saying? Yeah plants Redwood seed and then sort of grows and and roots go down, and the branches go up. And then all of a sudden it's 200 feet tall but you don't plant redwood! It's exact same thing because I really believe we are dealing with entities that have a different sense of time than we do. And i know that just sounds completely insane to some people but I really...I really just believe that

1:13:18 Yeah, it is crazy. And even though people don't know the name Elizabeth Frazier I mean like you said her song was chosen for house one of the most popular shows ever like there's points in the timeline where her music does peak to that highest level it's just we don't know her name and maybe that's because uh you know we're really supposed to know the name of the vest of the spirit not the host or spell yeah well she does Peter Jackson, of course the director of Lord Of The Rings and Hobbit is a ridiculous acolyte of Elizabeth Fraser. He used her music too! Well he had her sing in the first two Lord Of The Rings films and also use some of her music for The Lovely Bones that movie that he did after he was done with King Kong and rest of it. And of course what we're really talking about here is

1:14:07 is this connection to David Lynch. I read somewhere that at some point in the 80s, he was obsessed with Elizabeth Frazier and said it was his favorite living singer. That's how obsessed he was with her. And of course you watch Twin Peaks and you watch Blue Velvet. He wanted to use Song To The Siren in Blue Velvet. Not only that but he wanted Elizabeth Frazier to perform lip sync to Song To The Siren. There was going to be a scene set at the prom, you know with Jeffrey and the Laura Dern character. And they were going to be slow dancing to the song To The Siren. I mean, you can't dance a song to The Siren but he was gonna do that. Yeah it's too weird! Yeah i mean this really is where the whole... You know people have watched Twin Peaks The Return This really is where the whole Bang Bing Room concept comes from because people like Nine Inch Nails and Eddie Vedder who are all sort of tangentially

1:14:56 Connected to this whole thing as well. He has them perform to the local bar and he got the original idea from that because you're so obsessed with onto the siren that he wanted to have it, you know be the centerpiece of blue velvet which is really saying something. He couldn't get the rights to it, he later used it for Lost Highway with Bill Pullman and Patricia Arquette this very climactic love scene that he used that for but you know... This is how intense his obsession with Elizabeth Frazier and the Cocteau twins are hired a singer named Julie Cruz. I mean, she sang his Cocteau Twins Elizabeth Frazier sort of analog on Blue Velvet, Mysteries of Love which is used in Blue Velvet but then he has her do like an entire album where it's like his take on the Cocteau Twins and that's what the entire album is. And he's been very explicit about this very upfront about this. He was so obsessed with Elizabeth Frazier and The Cocteau Twins that he basically created the genre out of it

1:15:58 What this all leads to ultimately is Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks has Elizabeth Fraser in Song to the Siren and it's very DNA, and one thing that I would argue is that his interpretation of this trauma that he was hearing in her voice—and this is very important, one thing that I really want people to understand here—is that this a story about trauma. This is a story about childhood trauma, about abuse, metastasizes and what it leads to, and how people express their trauma through creativity. And on and on and on but I really believe that Laura Palmer is like his interpretation of this you know when you talked about this howling, this wailing that on these early records its so intense

1:16:43 It's this, you know she's not screaming but it's a whale. And I really believe when we see... Not only do we see Laura Palmer screaming and wailing in another dimension by the way! In the red room, in the black lodge, another dimension but she also has those crazy ice blue eyes. But they're contacts. She has these contacts on that are supposed to show that she is demonically possessed. They still don't look as weird or scary as Elizabeth Frazier's real eyes did at that point in time. Yeah man, it's just it is so hard to kind of wrap your head around the whole thing but it seems like powerful people might have recognized something special about Elizabeth Frazier and tried to incorporate into what they do whether its Peter Jackson or David Lynch and then that also does get us to the Millennium Dome. Yes! The Millennium Dome

1:17:33 Yeah, well first of all let me just say this. Elizabeth Frazier has been basically in seclusion for the past 20 years since Jeff Buckley died and she's done a couple things here and there you know she did some film soundtracks usually film soundtracks that are very heavily connected to The Siren and Drowning and all the rest of it but just out of completely nowhere, completely just out of the clear blue sky. She appeared at Royal Albert Hall in the heart of London named after Prince Albert the Prince, who had died young. The husband of Queen Victoria. So she comes out of nowhere for basically like a talk about an album that wasn't having an anniversary is not considered a milestone in the discography and it just basically had nothing to do with anything so they're renting out Prince Albert Hall very legendary celebrated

1:18:29 venue in the heart of London to have Elizabeth Frazier appear for absolutely no reason at all that anyone can tell. I mean, just for nothing! To talk about an album that nobody else talks about but the thing is that she appeared on July 23rd now July 23rd you know for people who are Robin Anton Wilson fans he associates that with Sirius he associates it with The Rising Of Sirius what is The Rising Of Sirius? The Rising Of Sirius is how the Egyptians marked the floods of the Nile. Okay, this is what I'm talking about here so July 23rd is a day that has significance to some people in a certain I think OTO people and things like that recognize this day as the rising Assyrius which is associated with arising with floods A few weeks later what's the big story in the news? Floods! I mean this is like... What?! Do you understand what I am saying

1:19:24 This is a venue run by the British Crown, not just the British government but the British Crown decides to have Elizabeth Frazier show up for absolutely no reason on this very weird and symbolically significant day that has to do with floods. A few weeks later, oh gee what's going on? Floods! I mean this is how crazy it is. Yeah, It's deep Yeah, so you want to be talking about the Millennium Dome. No it's cool man I mean it's all great but that's how you get into the bigger picture you know? The worldwide geopolitical picture and outside of just the musical genre we're talking about

1:20:03 Let's go back to Britain. Let's go back to the heart of London I don't know how many people realize that the Thames River is also called the Isis Are you familiar with that? I heard that from you Yeah, okay So the Thames River, I mean this isn't me just finding this out on some weird conspiracy websites and then You can look this up on Wikipedia It's on Wikipedia so The Thames River everyone remembers the millennium, Y2K all these kind of things. All this stuff was going to go on you know all the computers are gonna shut down we're gonna be reduced to barbarism blah blah blah up and down the line

1:20:39 I mean, I never believed the Y2K thing because you know when I stopped believing in Y2K? When I got my credit cards that had the year 2000 printed on them. Oh maybe the computers can handle the year 2000! So anyway this was a big deal so Tony Blair, New Labour, New Britain... I mean it was Britpop it was a big exciting time Harry Potter James Bond It was like swinging London all over again. His project actually started under John Major before him but his project was going to be The Millennium Dome And the Millennium Dome turned out to be a friggin boondoggle, but it was going to be this center. This multimedia installation shaped like a dome right on the heart of the river I mean...I don't need to explain the symbolism there

1:21:23 So it's crypto-masonic up and down the line, and what the Millennium Dome was going to be—the way it was going to be introduced to the public. You know, this destination for everybody that was going to become the new center of cultural London with the Millennium Dome didn't work out that way but whatever. They hired Peter Gabriel arch Bond villain globalist Peter Gabriel to produce the soundtrack for what they were calling the Millennium Dome show. And the Millennium Dome show was going to be produced by this guy who's since passed away called Mark Fisher, and Mark Fisher became really well known in

1:22:03 The first thing he did was that he did the wall show for Pink Floyd in 1980, which is very big multimedia production. That's where he made his bones and then U2 hired him and the Rolling Stones hired them and then Madonna hired him. Then I think Lady Gaga hired him. He became the go-to guy for big football stadium spectacle for rock groups and stuff. For a big public rituals? Yeah, essentially like rituals. So he was hired to produce this Millennium Dome show. So what is the Millennium Dome show about? You would think it would be about the history of Britain as an empire and its evolving into a commonwealth of nations, all the diversity in economics, London being the new world capital, blah blah blah... That's what you'd think it would be about right? Nationalism! Patriotism! Yeah that's not what it was about.

1:23:01 That's not what it was about. You know, what is about is about the Earth people and the sky people who are basically demons of the air having a war and then the war between the Earth people and the sky people these flying beings that you know look like demons flying around in the air you know an earth girl and a Sky boy comes together and they create this new hybrid being of humanity and demon Literally, it's like the Neville. It's Genesis six right? Yeah. So this is how crazy Gabriel yeah so Gabriel Peter Gabriel what where did he get his start in Genesis? It gets even crazy that because Elizabeth Frazier she's only done one concert in the past 20 years and she did it and It was kind of sad to see because she's not the same person anymore But she had the original guitars from Genesis so

1:23:57 This is how it always seems like this is being put together by people who have really, really bad OCD and everything has to line up exactly. So this Millennium Show is basically every Christian conspiracy theory you've ever heard about Nephilim played out literally every day for the entirety of the year 2000 in the heart of London on the Temps on the Isis but it gets even better or worse depending on your point of view The character that elizabeth fraser sings is this character named sofia oh gee what do we hear that in the forces of fear must be a coincidence she plays his character name sophia she becomes the mother of the new horse. New men every now and then.

1:24:41 who incidentally flies off in a flying saucer, but she falls in love with the Sky Boy and she becomes very sympathetic to the Sky Boys' plight because these sky boys or sky people or demons of the air wherever you want to look at it. You know they're imprisoned and their technology is stolen... where did we hear this all before? I mean, this is how crazy it gets. So the sky people are in prison—they're taken prisoner and their technology is stolen—and then the earth people build this horrible tower, this giant tower that's literally depicted as a Tower of Babel in the production, you know, the stage production in The Millennium Dome? And what does Sophia do? She blows up the tower

1:25:26 What? The tower is blown up through controlled demolition that Sophia, the new ISIS, the mother of the new Horus and a mother you know of the race of the men are renowned. The giants on the earth in those days on Genesis 6 I mean it just never literally never ends You know, she blows up the tower. But it isn't just a tower see because what it is that there's a tower but inside of this another tower so which he really does she blows up to two towers and then you watch this you can walk on YouTube look at Millennium Dome and you can see this and you go Jesus that looks awful like 9-11

1:26:09 Dude, it really looks a lot like North Tower South tower building seven the way they fell. It really just like huh? Right the year before it actually happens they do this play every day of the year 2000 and then 2001 it's like that was almost like a calling or some type of ritual to usher in Yeah, and of course 9-11 is New Year's Day. And the Coptic calendar... What's the Coptic calendar? The Coptic calendar is the calendar of the Egyptians who see themselves as the true descendants of the pharaohs—you know, the true descendants of Pharaonic Egypt. They see all these other Egyptians as invaders from Arab countries and whatnot. They see themselves as the real Egyptians so that would be the start of the most

1:26:59 Millennium. Okay, that's I don't feel like this is so important to 9-11 and i don't feel like anybody nails all these parts and we just seriously connected this whole frazier saga nobody even remembers the millennium dome show right? And anybody who remembers it like people who saw it at the time they don't make the connection to 911 but Oh, that's 9-11. That's what they were channeling or trying to invoke! Another point about the Coptic calendars, you said it was the year 1717. And I guess what's the importance of that date in particular? Is there any is there some kind of numerology there? Well, this two important since here, I mean, 17 is a very important number because it's the day of the death, either the date of the death of Osiris. So 17 has an

1:27:54 And the Romans came to see 17. It's very unlucky, it had these negative connotations and I've talked about this a lot on the blog Obama seemed to be fixated on 17 he always made these 17-minute speeches up and down the line but 1717 is the official start of Freemasonry Midsummer fires St John's Day 1717 so it just like Nice little anniversary ritual for him. Oh, yeah it's just like you see this stuff and you just go... First of all if people will go oh well you know this is what they do in certain extent I think that's right i think that this isn't what they do I mean this is how things work we can talk about how this plays into the whole NFL thing and the Grammy Awards and all the rest of it a moment but yeah I mean this is what they did put on these rituals but it's usually

1:28:48 It's not like really this well rendered. I mean, it just literally seems like somebody with all the time in the world and really bad OCD said alright i'm going to plan this thing out now. I'm gonna start in 1981 or no, I'm gonna start 1969 and then nothing is going to happen until 1981 and then 1983 and 1994 This is not how they work. Right? Quote unquote, day yet they put on spectacles and rituals like go start tunnel and all the rest of it. Yeah absolutely no argument here but yeah I think there are elements to that in here to be sure but at the same time its like nobody works like this. It seems too precise for human hands. Yeah literally its too precise and theres so many things like she meets Jeff Buckley well first she meets him

1:29:47 Or he meets the band, I don't know if he meets her in particular. In 1990 after she sings yet another song where she's channeling the Siren Where...I gotta tell you these lyrics because it is so friggin creepy So there is a song The title is ridiculous, it doesn't have anything to do with the song like most of their songs do. It's a song where she sang I saw her mermaid in the Lagoon Klesova and the Lagoon Klesova is in Greece and it's where Lord Byron died on the shore of the Lagoon Klesova he was injured in battle and he was helping the Greeks over you know it was part of the Greek revolution

1:30:25 at the time. So this is how smart this woman is, and she's pointing to Byron. She knows Byron. She knows where he died. She's very literate but then the chorus is like gray water hoist me down under the water gray water hoist me down under the waterfall that's the chorus after she sings that first verse and then the next verse is so until the hour My shari paya coy arse, what she's saying is that you know until I meet you my dear heart boy because like it sort of this patois mixing French and Hindi. She's saying you know until the hour my dear sweet boy and then you know the rest of it is about drowning in the gray water which is what Jeff Buckley literally downed in a you know the water as well known for being grey

1:31:11 And it's just like, oh this is really really really scary. And it doesn't sound scary until you understand that not only is this explicitly talking about his death but it's also saying, until the hour when we meet my dear sweet boy... It's like that's not her talking! That sounds crazy people just think are these guys nuts? This guy's off his rocker?! I don't think so. I don't think that's her talking, you know? She said the songs right themselves and she said she was channeling some Disincarnate being I just take her out of work. Yeah, exactly Exactly man So anyway people go like whatever I don't care about this woman. I've never heard of her blah blah You know indie haircut rock. I don't care about this 80's crap Well the thing is is that this woman is almost like she's almost like the beta test for? This whole

1:32:08 generation of pop stars that we're seeing now, you know, your Miley Cyrus, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj. I mean Lady Gaga, you know? So like the whole thing where they're playing with all this occult symbolism and they're also playing with all this dissociation and a lot of them really hark back to the 80's kind of sounds. You know, they use that 80 sound, you know, it's very all over the radio these days. So she's kind of like the beta test of it, except for like she singing songs about things that are going to happen 15 years from when they are recorded and not only do we have Jeff Buckley which is kind of a gimme she had a relationship with, but also Chris Carnell and then we have Heath Ledger! Direct tie-in he did a movie called

1:33:00 I forget the title right now, but it was about drug addiction and candy. Right? Yeah. And it features song to the siren, but it also features this very weird scene with honey in it And Honey, if you go to the blog, Honey really plays into this other crazy song that she's singing about exactly where and exactly how Jeff Buckley is going to die in this weird sort of a cult code that's recorded 14 years before it happens. So he gets sucked into it. I show exactly where he lived He literally lives on the other end of a block where there's a Starbucks and then, you know, there's something else that ties into The Siren. And then I show like within walking distance of his old apartment he lived on Broom Street before he passed away You know There were these weird landmarks that all tie directly into a particular Cocteau Twins album The album that has Lorelei on it and you just go This just doesn't

1:33:57 It's like I'm really starting to wonder if what people like Elon Musk talk that we're just living in this simulation. This is just some weird sim that we're living in, this is like some weird video game somebody's playing when you see this stuff pile up on top of each other endlessly and go, I think he might be maybe onto something there. Right You know what I mean? Because the stuff is not supposed to happen in a causal reality Yeah Right on man, I love the work you do and it's really exciting for me when i know we're gonna record a show and release the show because you are really on that shortlist of people. I like to talk to and really highlight their work in like i get excited about pressing the publish button when the episode goes out because i know it's gonna blow minds and no i can't have a guest from the shortlist every week

1:34:49 because there's just obviously the nature of a shortlist is that it's short. But I love it, man! It really is awesome we've spent so much time talking today. I think the first time I hit you up was close to 9am and it's now almost 4pm and we've been talking back and forth about doing this all day and I think we're going to release a really awesome show. And I hope people go to the blog to really digest not only the details we couldn't talk about, but also the pictures you show which adds the visual aid that's kind of necessary for this. And check out some of Fraser's music! It is pretty eerie and man I guess... You know? We are wrapping this up Is there anything else that can be said in summary in regards to the times were in and what people should maybe be most aware or look for What's the Chris Noll survival plan these days

1:35:41 Ah, geez. I don't even know if I have one. It's like... No one is going to survive? Enjoy every day. Touche. You know enjoy every day as best you can and love the people around you be kind of strangers. Yeah. And never know what is going to happen keep your mind free and clear do not get caught up in other peoples crusades Yes! Just don't become cannon fodder for somebody else game Just keep it all clear and keep your mind straight. And that's really the only benefit of any of this, really. The only benefit of any of this is keeping out of other people's traps." Yes! So well said. To me that's like... What is the benefit of knowing any of this? Well you don't watch CNN and think that you're watching reality

1:36:36 Or fox news or info wars are a bc r nbc or cbs whatever you just not watching reality because of what we know people who watch that stuff. Always end up getting upset getting angry getting angry at other people and i mean people who watch, Young Turks or Alex Jones. They just all they always pissed off They're always angry, you know, I've noticed that especially these days they're always like and you know it's like and there so easily set off and this is so You know just cause I mean I'm having this problem when my on my comment section, you know i'm just kind of getting bombarded by like people are just like oh

1:37:21 so angry and like blaming things on me, like I had anything to do with it. It's just like people are just becoming extremists and becoming really ultra sensitive and really easy to piss off. And I'm just like, I can't deal with that anymore. It's just annoying." I'm so glad you said something, man. I feel the exact same way and the only thing i can remind myself of is that 90% of people even more than that 98% of people listening or reading your blog they read it they enjoy it and say nothing and come back next week and thats kinda the way i gotta think about because you do see these comments sure might be a dozen two-dozen comments but you're like wow

1:38:08 They're the ones you really remember and you're just like, I didn't think I was going to get that reaction at all. And it makes you kind of second guess do I know my own audience? What's going on here are they changing am i not changing but yeah the sensitivity is at an all time high. Yeah I it's not going anywhere good but you know we've got to have the ko before we have the order like yes you know i just that's the way its gonna play out and that's really what i see if you ask me what i see in that new star trek it's like. Yeah, everybody gets along as long as they're wearing the Star Trek uniform. You know the Starfleet uniform and even then they kind of don't get along but you know if they don't we'll put them in their place and if not they'll die. I mean that's literally what the entire thing is saying it's like

1:38:59 If you're wearing the blue and gold, baby. You know the royal that this specifically Masonic Royal Blue and Gold I mean the same exact tones same exact Pantone colors your okay if not we're going to kill you Yeah man well i guess i should let you go before We fully complete The nine-to-five circuit that we've worked so hard To get out of Well it's been a intense pleasure for me amazing It's like any day talking to Greg Carwood is A good day as far Two kind and I agree with you. Ditto, man! I'm right there with you. I enjoy talking to you and of course people should make Secret Sun they should put Secret Sun in their sphere of influence but what is there anything else you're working on that you want to tell people about before we get out here? We can give them the link but is Lucifer Technology becoming a book? Yeah well here's the thing...I have a rough draft of a book A novel that I've been working on this that deals with a lot of these themes uh.. I have the rough draft or the first draft I should say

1:39:57 so many things, it's just a question of finding time to do it. Because every time I really start to pick up steam, I have to stop and work on something else. It's the story in my life but you know, I've gotta pay the bills and mortgage and everything like that. You know, I've got like a lot of things, a lot of irons in the fire. I just need to find the time to really get them done. Right on, man. Yeah well best of luck I guess we're racing against the clock but you are one of the greats and take care yourself out there man! Oh yeah you and your lovely wife as well and everyone listening out there too right on thanks man appreciate it

1:40:34 Then the knee people, Christopher Knowles dropping knowledge like no other. A show I really enjoyed and the whole Elizabeth Fraser thing is just so weird. I'd never heard of her yet she's everywhere Lord of The Rings movies, The Millennium Dome performance These are like major things and maybe some media folks who have the eyes to see realized that there was some power there And just wanted to incorporate it into their own projects I still struggle to know exactly what i'm looking at with some of this stuff but, I love tying in Starbucks. To me that is something I've been thinking about for a long time but nobody really talks about Just think about the addiction people have to Starbucks and the way they are summoned by the siren every damn day. Born from Seattle, a city on the water... And if you look at the four versions of the logo used since 1971 The theme is zoom in on the siren remove all the other elements Now they've completely removed the wording because I'm convinced They just know the power of the siren

1:41:31 But there is so much about this show I liked. Another great point Chris made is that the value of this type of study, being into conspiracy culture, is avoiding the traps they lay. Yeah it can be depressing and stressful sometimes but those are just normal reactions to seeing the real world. Sorry! Sure ignorance and denial are bliss but its because you're in a artificial bubble. People should be depressed and stressed when they see the world stage as it really is It should be jarring when you're presented with data that just doesn't fit into the worldview that's been rolled out for you, and you actually have to think about things for yourself. That type of thing is the only real catalyst for change if a real change ever even comes because in college I was really bright-eyed and bushy tailed and thought if just enough people saw these zeitgeist movies we'd all wake up to the ills of the system and probably work to refine it but...I lost a lot of that awhile back

1:42:27 If you're waiting on the world to change, you're going to be waiting a long time. And it is such a lame thing to say, Be the change you want to see in the world." But it's also so true! Our fight is an individual fight and by winning it—to the extent that we can which really just means escaping the 9-5 or something you are passionate about reclaiming your life and doing just well enough financially to distance yourself from this system It's the only way to make a difference If you don't follow RuneSoup, let me just say Gordon dropped on the blog that he just bought a 5 acre farm in Tasmania to start his permaculture paradise. He's not protesting on the streets or blocking an unrelated highway

1:43:05 He's just manifesting the life he wants to live. Sure, he advocates that everyone should live that way but it's not like he is going sit and wait for the entire culture to flip it on like a light switch you just have to do it! And then more people do it and then industries pop up to support people living a sustainable permaculture life... ...and then that world gets bigger So if you DO want change, YOU HAVE TO GET IT, YOU HAVE TO BE IT and not just talk about at the water cooler My life, for example is pretty far off from Gordon level mastery but the enjoyment of life is definitely at an all-time high. Distancing myself from anything I don't want to do or care about that's in an all time high But I still have a ton of work to do overall or magic to do

1:43:47 Which, if you've really tried to get deep into is almost a full-time job in itself. It takes a lot of discipline and dedication But like Gordon Chris is one of those guys I consider a bit of a mentor Both of them are members of that inner circle that I tend to use to recalibrate when I start to get a little lost in the conspiratorial weeds I hope I can actually get Chris back before the end of the year to add in his latest revelations and all the Vegas connections. And, I think this might be in The Plus Show but Chris also made a good point about being careful not to normalize pedophilia. I do get so cynical about it since it doesn't surprise me anymore but we don't want to become numb to what pedophilia really is and how fucked up it actually is

1:44:28 One last thing I did want to mention about this overall show and the idea of an entity or some type of prophecy coming through this type of musical channeling. It might sound really weird and far out, but as Chris mentions in the blog and Preston Gibbs mentioned in our show about prediction magic, Oracles in Greece... This is kind of how they used to deliver prophecy usually in some type of prose And I know it's Hollywood stuff, but you do see examples of witches talking and Dr. Seuss-style rhymes a whole lot and i think there is a basis for that So considering that aspect, if that is a magical mechanism of channeling or whatever in our world in modern times that mechanism would probably come through a musical artist. And remember this was someone who did sing about witchcraft and magic she did say her songs tended to write themselves and that she felt like a vessel for something so it's pretty big fucking open thing but just nobody pays any attention

1:45:29 I guess if i had to describe my worldview at this point it would be a soup of synchromystic notions, Gnosticism mild anarchism in the sense that the smallest workable decentralized governments would probably work best and then of course throw in an animist attitude towards consciousness, and clearly you can see the influences there. But if you think about your general ideas as part of a formula, and you think well here's some odd data about the world how do I explain it? Or maybe here's a reoccurring problem for society and the control structure what's the fix for that? And you find yourself inserting

1:46:05 the same worldviews into the equation and finding that things check out, well then you've found a pretty good philosophy. And it's great to have philosophies that don't require everyone to think the way you do—they don't seem to work out too well! But for example when we get deep into consciousness studies and near-death experience plants & animals and our connection to the world there is no part of what I've seen that can't be folded into the animist perspective in some way so I think I can check that box And it might sound condescending, but a big problem is that number one the general population doesn't have good ideas about life anymore. And number two without good ideas there are no good arenas to test them out in I wish the nation was tuned in nightly as philosophers debated their outlooks on consciousness and material reality

1:46:53 rather than them just trying to sell you cars and pills in between broad comedy and whatever stupid stories an actor can get through just to promote that new movie. We've been dumbed down so much that I can't even talk about Gnosticism, and Synchromysticism or even Decentralization with very many people It's a very short list! I've seen a lot of people that surprise me wake up to the idea of manipulated manufactured events or false flags in the wake of Vegas because it is so sloppy But still, a lot of my friendships are based on who wants to go paddleboarding or grab a few beers. Or of course the shared trauma of working in retail

1:47:32 And I love everybody I hang out with, but you can't easily go years without anyone getting deeper than an analysis of various Black Mirror episodes or an appreciation for the new Overwatch skins. Oh yeah and I have that Cthulhu skin for Zenyatta so I'm no better But my only point is that the campaigns of dumbing us down controlling our education and bombarding us with bright lights and flashing colors of the digital era have definitely had an effect a very very deep one It's funny because I do have lifelong friends that sometimes feel the need to apologize and say, oh i'm glad you're doing well with the show. I'm sorry I haven't gotten around to listening to it." And I'm just like dude don't even bother yourself because if you're not interested in this type of stuff don't try and force it just to do me a favor! I'm totally cool just smoking a couple joints and going to see Kingsman 2

1:48:20 Fuck it. I've spent too many years trying to change the world, now i just want to have a good time and kind of compartmentalize my conspiratorial side like we do here." And I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way! You listen to this show, you get deep into these ideas but how often do you bring them up in general conversation? It's kind of a privileged club and like Chris said all we can do right now is be good to people take care of the ones you love The game is bigger than any of us so what are you going to do Just keep in mind which way the general wind is blowing, what gods are whispering in the ears of man right now and navigate accordingly. Also sign up for THC Plus and all your wildest dreams will come true! In this Plus show with Chris we switched gears to talk about Braintree Massachusetts and surrounding area weirdness

1:49:10 It is where Chris grew up, he knows a lot of strange things about it. And we got into the Orion Kraus murder case how mind control might fit into that picture How that whole area is a hotbed of military intelligence and human experimentation and I would say trafficking too but that seems to be everywhere unfortunately We did get into the influence of The Nine, which is one of my favorite subjects. And also Chris pointed out that the date of 10-01... 1-0-0-1 I mean that's binary for nine and this is the type of event that shapes culture and that's what The Nine said they wanted to do is influence culture so it's a weird string of events but we also talked about the Netflix shows OA and Stranger Things and the Babylonian cult Behind the Curtain

1:49:57 All great stuff, sign up at thehiresidechatsplus.com $5 for 5 extra hours a month you know the drill treat yourself I'm sure you get a lot more out of it than five dollars spent most other places. But i'm getting out of here big thanks again to Chris go listen to some cocktoo twins, Go read the next chapters in the story on the newly redesigned secret sun site watch The first THC and tinfoil hat live show on our youtube channel tide yourself over for a few days And i'll see you soon your move invoked entities sorcerers of symbolism and ethereal overlords of the earthly plane Your fucking move

1:50:35 Oh no, you see The world isn't random it's attached to puppet strings Control over everything The 9-to-5 has tried to steal ya Now don't that job seem silly? Hello, can you hear me Or should I play back recordings from some spying agency? Wish we were younger and free. I'll be thankful when it's all exposed, the vast conspiracy There is such a difference between us And the Denver child

1:51:39 Hollow from the higher side They're calling out a thousand crimes They'll tell you the story Of everything that's been done And they'll call out deception Of the web that's been spawned Hollow from the higher side The earth is hollow inside They'll tell you about something that no one else will Have you heard about Saturn? Have you heard about the real since the wrong? Oh, no. They're cartoons

1:52:39 It's so typical of me to talk about the stuff I'm sorry that's good and well Did you ever hear the argument That nothing really happens, it's no secret And that the best is plugged? It's doubling your time Hello from the higher side They're calling out a thousand cries They'll tell you something the elite have done And they'll call out deception on the web that's been spawned

1:53:34 Hello from the higher side Challenging your paradigm And I'll tell you someday That the battle's begun But we can't fight it with violence The mind's where it's won At the war, at the war That's the world. That's the world. Hello from the highest high, they're calling out a thousand crimes They'll tell you something the elite have done And they'll call out deception of the web that's been spun

1:54:47 From the higher side Challenging your paradigm And I'll tell you someday That the battle's begun But we can't fight it with violence The mind's where it's won, that's the rule