Topic: V For Vendetta

The discussion shifts to Donald Trump, linking the November 5th election date to the Gunpowder Plot in V for Vendetta. Carlwood connects Trump's assassination attempts to the JFK "back and to the left" phrase, which Trump coincidentally uttered in his Home Alone 2 cameo. Further connections are made between shooter Ryan Routh, a Beavis and Butt-head parody by Ryan Gosling, and the Lebanon pager attacks involving the "Gold Apollo" brand.

Moeller and Carlwood discuss how certain comics, like Grant Morrison’s The Invisibles or Alan Moore’s Promethea, function as magical sigils or spells. They examine V for Vendetta as a case study in manifestation, noting how the Guy Fawkes mask became a global cultural phenomenon. Moeller suggests that Alan Moore’s Promethea is the best introductory text for those wishing to learn about Kabbalah and magic.

Jay Dyer offers a critical perspective on V for Vendetta, arguing that anarchism is often used as a tool by the elite to destroy existing social structures. He suggests that the commercialization of rebellion, such as selling Guy Fawkes masks at Hot Topic, proves the movement is establishment-approved. The discussion references Dave McGowan’s work on Laurel Canyon to suggest that even sincere anti-war movements can be co-opted if they lack a solid philosophical foundation.

Writer Alan Moore is described as a neo-Gnostic and occultist whose disdain for Abrahamic faiths influences his work, including V for Vendetta and From Hell. The Guy Fawkes mask, now a symbol for Anonymous, is identified as having roots in a Jesuit conspiracy to topple the English government during the Counter-Reformation. The film is analyzed as a Gnostic rebellion against an oppressive right-wing government.

The discussion touches on the archetype of the warrior who fights best when facing certain death, using a scene from the film "V for Vendetta" as an illustration. Rupert suggests that realizing the certainty of the current systemic collapse can be a "gift" that allows individuals to live more authentically and cleanly.