Topic: Neo Paganism

The discussion explores the idea that after the failure of the technocracy, the world will swing toward neo-paganism and the worship of the "divine feminine." Referencing Alice Bailey, the theory suggests there are "two New World Orders," with the first serving only to prepare for the second. Hinton reflects on his past promotion of Saturnian theories, now viewing them as part of a larger Theosophical psychological operation.

The decline of the neo-pagan and New Age movements since their peak in 2007 is compared to the "selling out" of the 1960s hippie counterculture. As these movements became mass-marketed and aligned with the status quo, they lost their potency, leading to the eventual failure of pop-culture magic like the Magic Resistance.

Naturalist and neo-pagan author Lupa Greenwolf joins the program to discuss the intersection of magic and the animal kingdom. The conversation introduces her background as a ritual toolmaking artist and the creator of The Tarot of Bones. The discussion aims to explore how indigenous and pagan traditions maintain connections to nature that modern Western society has largely abandoned.

Lupa Greenwolf describes her spiritual trajectory starting with 1990s Wicca and the works of Scott Cunningham before moving into chaos magic and neo-shamanism. She eventually stripped away formal dogma to focus on a naturalist pagan approach rooted in physical ecosystems rather than abstract symbolism. She defines totems as archetypal beings representing entire species and clarifies that her practice exists within the terrain of consciousness rather than the supernatural.

Eric Dollard asserts that the primary source of funding for the suppression of advanced science comes from the Rockefeller family. He claims they direct the course of invention and establish educational curricula designed to limit mental development. He describes the underlying ideology of these powerful groups as a form of neo-paganism with specific spiritual and racial agendas.