Topic: Flavians

Host Greg Carlwood introduces author Joe Atwell for his third appearance on the program. Atwell is recognized for his books Caesar's Messiah and Shakespeare's Secret Messiah, which argue that the New Testament and Shakespearean works were crafted as state propaganda. The discussion is framed around the idea that cultural and political shifts are often engineered by the CIA or billionaire funders rather than being organic movements.

Greg Carlwood addresses listener criticism regarding his views on Christianity, clarifying that while he isn't a believer, he doesn't hate Christians. He discusses Joe Atwell’s "Caesar’s Messiah" theory and the potential for religious narratives to be used as tools of empire. The conversation also touches on Rudolf Steiner’s views on the spiritual energy of food, contrasting living bread and fruit with the "dead substance" of factory-processed foods.

Independent scholar Joe Atwill returns to discuss his research regarding the Roman conspiracy to invent Christianity. Atwill is the author of Caesar's Messiah, which posits that the Flavian family constructed the New Testament to pacify Jewish sects. The conversation introduces Atwill's broader work on historical psyops and his frequent appearances on the Powers and Principalities podcast.

Joseph Atwell explains his hypothesis that the Flavian imperial family constructed the New Testament to pacify Jewish messianic rebels against the Roman Empire. He details the use of typology, a literary genre where the life of Jesus parallels the military campaigns of Titus Flavius in sequence and geography. Atwell asserts that the "Son of Man" predicted by Jesus was actually a reference to the Roman Caesar, intended as a hidden legacy for the Flavian dynasty.

The origins of Gnosticism are traced to Jewish dissatisfaction with the temple elite in Alexandria during the Second Temple period. Sects like the Sethians viewed the creator god, Yaldabaoth, as an evil demiurge and distanced themselves from the Davidic elite. White suggests that Gnosticism definitively predates the traditional dates of Christianity, emerging from a "mangrove swamp" of Egyptian and Hellenistic ideas.

Gordon White references Joseph Atwill’s "Caesar’s Messiah" to explain how the Flavian dynasty used the Jesus narrative as imperial propaganda to pacify the rebellious Jewish province. He notes that early Catholic saints were often members of the Flavian family and that the historian Josephus was a state propagandist. This theory suggests the New Testament was designed to foreshadow the military campaigns of Emperor Titus.