Topic: Electroshock Therapy

The hosts examine the role of mental hospitals in the early 20th century, suggesting they functioned as prisons for political dissidents and those who questioned the new historical narrative. Alex and Greg share personal family anecdotes regarding relatives who were institutionalized and subjected to brain-scrambling treatments like electroshock therapy. They argue these facilities were essentially re-education centers designed to remove "distempered" individuals from society.

The conversation shifts to the highly individual nature of human desire, which Habib claims is the most unique aspect of a person and therefore a threat to centralized power. Greg Carlwood shares a personal family story regarding an uncle who was entrapped by police, charged under archaic sodomy laws, and subjected to electroshock therapy in a mental institution. This trauma, which eventually led to the uncle's suicide, serves as a concrete example of how state-enforced sexual legislation can destroy lives.

The segment tells the story of Val Orlikow, a victim of Donald Ewan Cameron who was dosed with high levels of LSD and subjected to intense electroshock therapy. Despite her abuse, Orlikow reportedly viewed Cameron as a god-like figure, an example of Stockholm Syndrome or "capture bonding." The goal of such treatment was to regress the adult mind to a toddler-like state for easier manipulation.