Walter Bosley | Esoteric Napoleon, Malta’s Hypogeum, & The Great Pyramid

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01:27 These are the higher side chats. Alright people, another day another deep dive into this weird world from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and we are no strangers to the subject of the ruling elite's secret agendas whether it be their not as advertised esoteric and occult practices Their allegiances to secret societies and think tanks you don't hear about in the news or their empire expanding ever-present pursuit of complete globalization Yes, it seems that at nearly every time depth there's what the history books say and then there's the subtext and side stories that end up on the cutting room floor as to not expose the masses to the very subjects they work so hard to quarantine.

02:09 The lost history of advanced civilizations, more developed and accurate models for understanding reality and man's place in it. Advanced technology, ether physics exotic energy sources alchemical sciences entheogens and the kitchen sink of secrets we learn a little more about each day These themes seem to be the undercurrent of so much activity throughout the human story, no matter where you look. So why wouldn't it be present in the life and times of Napoleon Bonaparte as well? One of the most successful military men in history Well that's the premise of Walter Bosley's latest book The Esoteric Napoleon A fourth book in his secret mission series And a title that seems to be kicking off a multi-volume mini series of its own

02:53 You might remember Walter from several previous shows covering his books Latitude 33, Keys to the Kingdom which explores arcane science and engineering in the making and location of Disneyland. And his Empire of The Wheel series which covers the Sonora Aero Club, secret flying crafts, the drawings of Charles Delchao Tesla Tech a secret group of Prussian nationalists known as NIMSA and so much more He also has an interesting history, serving as a counterintelligence specialist during the final years of the Cold War. A special agent with the Air Force Office for Special Investigations and as a personal security and counterterrorism consultant for various clients around the world It's going to be a wild ride that I am very excited to take The deep state decoder and esoteric agenda exposer Walter Bosley Welcome back to The Higher Side

03:46 Hey, it's great to be here Greg. Thanks for having me Yeah thanks for being here I think this is going to be a lot of fun you've written about some pretty amazing material over the years and you're really good at finding new places to look when i saw the esoteric Napoleon I knew it was going to be a great read I was not very knowledgeable about Napoleon in general honestly I'd of course heard that Provocative rumor about him spending the night in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid and coming out all flustered, something we'll definitely get into. But to get the mental wheels turning out there tell us a bit about how Napoleon became the subject of a new book in The Secret Mission series and this kind of thematic thread that weaves between these books

04:28 Well, it does have an interesting background for some years now dating back to 2014 as I would call it. Joseph Farrell and have discussed our personal curiosities about the Louisiana Purchase. Of course, many may not know that Napoleon Bonaparte was the one that sold the Louisiana Territory to the United States and is the one who made the deal with Thomas Jefferson which Congress wasn't too thrilled about at the time they felt he exceeded his powers but

05:06 When they saw that it doubled the size of the then United States, they went along with it. With our curiosities about the whys and wherefores of the sale—there is a known history in the more expedient reasons why Napoleon sold it—we always wondered what did the French find there? Did they find something before the sale? Just There's all sorts of interesting things, not the least of which is the very curious death of Meriwether Lewis who was very likely murdered. He was of the Lewis and Clark expedition that went and explored Louisiana territory right after the purchase so with all these interesting mysteries Napoleon was kind of on my plate of curiosities

05:55 And early last year, I think it was February of 2018. I went to visit Joseph with another friend and we went to his favorite used book emporium this huge...it was even bigger before but the downsize a big book emporium where he lives And I happened to find an edition of a book that I'd heard of, but had never seen titled Bone Apart in Egypt by Christopher Harold. There was only one copy so I scooped that up and I just got it as extra reading curiosity because what I was actually intending to work on last year was the follow-up to Secret Missions 1 about Juan Cabrillo. And I had also found a book about California history on the same day

06:44 And purchase that as well and actually read that one first before I picked up the Bonaparte in Egypt book. Well, as I read Bonaparte in Egypt I realized how much i did not know previously about Napoleon Bonaparte. All I knew was what we're all taught in school, and movies and TV and popular culture that he was this glum fat bald megalomaniac And that's really all there was to him. And of course in some extreme cases the antichrist of the 19th century in all this Well as I read The Herald book

07:21 As I said, I learned things about Napoleon that i did not know. When he went to Egypt he wasn't yet 30 years old and I'm reading that he's a long-haired slim great looking guy the women adored him men just idolized him. That'd get in this complete different picture of Napoleon but also in this one book I'm learning about his fascination his primary love for science and ancient history and you know those kind of world explorer type mysteries that are popular today. And again this I didn't know about Napoleon so as i'm reading this book, I'm realizing wait a minute there's a big story here and oh my gosh! This looks like secret mission series material here and sure enough the more read the more I became convinced that Napoleon Bonaparte definitely deserved to get what I call the secret missions treatment from my series of books

08:18 So I decided after finishing the Herald book, I got my hands on another biography. And before I was done with that biography, I decided my gosh! I need to really dig into this man's story because as you said that curious tale about the night he spent in the pyramid Was one of those things Farrell and I would talk about, and you know. I had wondered about over the years And it was looking like that that was something that at least he actually did spend time in the pyramid and I realized, okay. I've got to dig into this and it ended up being just reading over almost 6,000 pages of biographical material on Napoleon just the bio material alone and I'll tell you by halfway through it. I had become call me a Bonapartist. I am a fan of Napoleon Bonaparte he is I considered to be one of the most slandered and lied about historical figures

09:20 In known history and that's kind of how it happened. Yes, I wanted to get into that perception of the man a little bit more because i did have it written down right here you referred to him as one of the most slandered men in history and like you had mentioned conventional view i think most people have is to consider him an aggressive egomaniac or tyrannical conqueror hell-bent on expanding the empire, but you consider him a philosopher and an esoteric scientist at heart. What would you tell people to expand on that? And maybe countering the conventional view of him in making the case that he was more than meets the eye. Well first of all that image, that erroneous image we have all been fed

10:07 That is a direct product of 19th century British propaganda and lies. And when I say, from now on in this conversation, from here out in this conversation and when you read it in the book, when I refer to the Brits or the British, I am referring to the aristocracy. I'm referring to their government at that time. The British people actually I've admired Napoleon just like the people of the countries that he invaded, you know and defeated their armies. He would go and do these civic improvements in the peoples of these countries. The actual people themselves would end up liking or loving him but it was the aristocracy

10:52 And between the British aristocracy and the House of Esty, which was the major overarching dynasty that had their members in pretty much all the thrones of Europe. They were the ones they in England were the ones and primarily the British when it comes to the worst slander at all there are the ones responsible for this image of the megalomaniac. It was all because At the time that Napoleon emerged, the British Empire was still rising and they had just been embarrassed in front of the whole world by the American Revolution. And they weren't about now to let this French upstart as they saw him come in and steal their thunder and prevent their vision, their determination for their empire. That's really what the British were all about

11:45 I had never looked at the British aristocracy and their government as being as shameful, shameless I should say in how they handled the whole Napoleonic issue. As they did during the 19th century it's obvious when you look closely Yeah, well I mean i'm not surprised that the British Empire would be capable of pumping out some pretty potent propaganda about somebody. Right! And as you mentioned that when he conquered a place... Can i laid out his vision and it would make things better for the people as opposed to the elites almost like a general robin hood and this is not. The perception i had me we use these terms like invader or conquer but apparently he only started one of the nine napoleonic wars anyway so i mean how can we say invade if most of them are started from the other side that right,

12:42 Oh yeah, that's crazy. They called this the Napoleonic Wars, this era there were nine of them and he only started one and that was with Spain and that was over a legitimate violation by the Spanish of a treaty they had signed with him with France And the other eight wars were started by England and the House of Estes and their allies in Europe It really should have been called The Wars British and European dynastic aggression is what it should have been called. Because that's what they were, and they got to the point where they openly were just stating that they were declaring war on the man himself, on Napoleon Bonaparte himself so we see the beginnings of the philosophical collectivist assaults on the idea of a strongman leader okay?

13:32 we see that the beginnings of, we must always demonize the strong charismatic leader because a strong charismatic leader can do great evil and destructive things but in the flip side to that point is a strong charismatic leader doing good things on the side of good can't be beat by any dynasty or collectivist body. And so with Napoleon in the Napoleonic era we see the beginnings philosophical selectiveness kind of sharpening their teeth on you know how to tear down a great leader and it just. It's kind of astonishing to some degree, I mean they would tell stories to their children that Napoleon Bonaparte will take away and boil up in a kettle and eat you and that kinda... Just the most ridiculous, they just wanted to turn him into a boogeyman really

14:29 Yes, that is a good breakdown and blaming the opposition is a common tactic for empires especially the British one. But to play devil's advocate a little bit here I wonder if we are romanticizing him a little bit because there are probably lots of conquerors in history who think they made improvements to the places they invaded and I know you're a military guy more than myself and a lot of these characters in history are also more complex than we give them credit for But I've heard some critics give pretty insane numbers for the deaths in Napoleon's wake and we're not just talking about soldiers. Some people have even used the word exterminate when it comes to how Napoleon felt about different cultures he encountered, especially non-European ones and I'm no...I know nothing you know that i was just trying to prepare for this interview And I guess I'd ask do you consider that stuff part of the propaganda or is truth somewhere in the middle?

15:25 Well, it's a little bit of both in a way. What you got is a bunch of propaganda exaggerating what did happen what you have are. A couple of instances now we have to remember when i say hey on the phone and bonaparte by no means with the man perfect he didn't make mistakes like any other human leader we've ever had even the best of them and he would admit, when you realize oh my gosh that was wrong thing in he would try too fix that and make reparations. So the truth is that, you know yeah there were some things you can point to absolutely but when you read the biographical material it's nowhere near like the propaganda

16:13 Play that out to be when you look at the circumstances in the details you find out that it wasn't as much as exaggerated, you find out that a lot of it he was not personally responsible for and he did not approve of what was done in certain cases. So it's kind of like you say, the truth is somewhere between the adoring fans and his greatest critics. Yes as is often the case And that was a pretty good response it's just something i wanted to at least address pretty early on here, i respect that you're a fan. I really have no dog in the fight on a lot of people we talk about and if they were. A good or bad person at heart like john dee or sir francis bacon. Or even when we talk about aspects of the top brass of the nazi organization usually i'm looking past morality stuff anyway.

17:10 I don't think highly of a lot of people in positions of power, but i'm more interested at this point and just using these figures as a gateway to understanding and opening up more that secret history. And esoteric knowledge that you tend to do such a great job digging out here's the way to look or to describe Napoleon he was imperfect there were some missteps He was by no means an Adolf Hitler, nor was he an Antichrist. And that's really a way you can put it Fair, fair. And to get more into the esoteric side of things just as we've speculated with previous guests about treasures and artifacts in the Baghdad Museum being more a priority to the invasion of Iraq than was advertised you suggest that secret codes mysteries and treasures might have fueled Napoleon's conquest particularly places in Italy to start what might those have been? What could he had been seeking

18:10 I think in general he was seeking any information that he could get on how i like to phrase it the lost technology of the forgotten civilization. call it atlantis call the empire whatever you want but what ever that lost. Age of golden age some college of human history is left, traces behind in for instance the megalithic structures or the out-of-place artifacts that are these more technologically advanced objects that shouldn't exist in the era where they were found

18:51 The clues are all over the world i think these mysteries fascinated him and. The biographer say that his first love intellectual love with science and history he was much more interested in that than politics, All the politics seem to be just an expedient measure, you know part of what he was thrust into and don't mistake what I'm saying. He excelled at that it's not that he didn't like that once he got into it But he excelled at it. He was a civics genius, Napoleonic law still is the foundation for French law to this day. The way cities are laid out all sorts of interesting things even our own street address system here in the United States and other places in the world where its even numbers on one side of the street not on the other that's Napoleon. That was Napoleon designs that came up with that

19:49 So he left a lasting impression and you could say to some degree, he's one of those few who helped create our modern world up there with Tesla in the civics way. Here was a guy who was interested in science and ancient history primarily more than anything else. He was a math whiz This is why they say he went into artillery, because math is important in artillery. And he was an artillery genius. He has still studied in war colleges all over. So this was a great passion for him and one of the things he started doing early when he you know, was part of the military machine of France, was he would target places that yeah had interest to him

20:41 in this regard. So one of the things he was keenly interested in was getting his hands on any documents that had been in possession of the Vatican, that he thought maybe he could glean something from on you know this ancient secret, this ancient world that was lost but he was also I think very interested in his own personal history. I think he suspected Early on that he might have been of a very important dynastic line and this was also part of why he was looking at some of these sites and pursuing Some of the places and things that he pursued. Yes, well said and definitely there is this element of Da Vinci code type of encoding of

21:31 arts that relates to nobility and bloodlines and secret lovers, and all that kind of stuff. That's definitely a big part of Part 2 of this book And you also note that when he took over a place He did demand a list of any art uncovered paintings and sculptures That kinda helps to make the case that was of heightened interest and you mentioned things from the Vatican I thought it was really interesting when he finally forged a peace treaty with Venice He demanded several Navy ships, 15 million francs 20 paintings and 500 Vatican manuscripts. And it's like man that sounds like the real prize of course you got to throw in some ships and some cash just to hide the fact that you really want these manuscripts

22:16 or to keep your employer happy right? You're doing this for your country and the government back home expects you to get resources so the money in the ships legitimately cover that need but yeah, the stuff regarding the manuscripts and art that was his own. Now even the art he would forward to France That was to go for the National Museum for France's cultural tastes and interests and all this stuff but you're right That was primarily an all him and what's interesting is there that little episode where they gave him 300 manuscripts. Okay, and he contacted them back in inform them no the agreement with 500 i expect the remaining 200 and you know he got them and what's interesting is what he was looking for in them

23:06 that can only be guessed at. Now, I'll be going into the details in pursuing the unanswered questions from this book regarding the art and the manuscripts in the second volume of this particular chapter of The Secret Missions figures but when you look at it even from the outside its obvious okay he was looking for something arcane clearly And the challenge will be of course, you know in the next volume is for me to dig into those details. Yes and Vatican archives are definitely provocative to me and speaking of employers as you mentioned I'm also always interested in secret allegiances and hidden financial backers and you mention this too to quote the book

23:55 There remains in the material about Napoleon a hint of suggestion that he represented an interest that represented him from offstage, where it so often counts. Was an unseen backer a factor in Napoleon's victory over Italy? And I would ask the same question! We've all seen the paintings of Napoleon with his hand on his shirt and what people suspect is a hidden hand, Freemasonic hand gesture of some type... What are your thoughts on this secret backer question?" Well, that's definitely a main thread that is one of the purposes for Volume 2. What I think about it is we have no record that Napoleon

24:37 himself was a Mason. However, he was surrounded by several Masons and Freemasonry back then was pretty open about their support of him. Okay? Masons loved him even though he would make little jokes about them. He would still dine with them and socialize them. And of course as I said, he was surrounded by Freemason But what I'm thinking, what I'm seeing and exploring and researching right now is that what I see in all this is more of the implication of a more secret society than Freemasonry or at least one that's not so out there on the stage of history. This is the kind of organization that certainly Freemasons would have also been a member of

25:25 And we're looking at something a little more like the stories we hear about Jules Verne. So this would have been an organization you know, pretty dedicated similarly to the ideas of Freemasonry but a little more dedicated to the mission of digging into and finding and retrieving the evidence in knowledge of the past. The lost past and how it could shape the future. And as I said these ideas are going really the main impetus for volume two and I think definitely that Napoleon

26:07 Was being guided by the hand of whatever it is, whatever it was whoever this was whatever the organization was and I think that's clear in his actions and in his association. I also suspect The Knights Templar or whatever form they were in at the time you know Of course to be deeply involved in the life of Napoleon. I even suggest that maybe they were involved in The matchmaking that resulted in he and his older brothers birth. So you have the night camp where in the mix as well yes and with on the idea that, oftentimes we have groups within groups are so much counter espionage infiltration you really can't use these labels another conspiracy culture tends to pay with a broad brush so it's good break that down and be more accurate and

27:03 The first section of the three in your book for me is the real sweet spot. You start off with a bang and get straight into his expedition of Egypt, where he made a pit stop in Malta first but tell us about some other preparation for this trip and this stop over in Malta. The clues that point to it being more about lost secrets of Esoterica as opposed to a general goal of just expanding the French Empire and its territories? Well, here's what's interesting. And I think this is evidence that Napoleon was indeed using the military and political aspects of this as an expedient

27:42 to really pursue his personal interests as regards ancient history and the mysteries of our past. And that is, that the idea of France invading with the idea of colonizing Egypt had been around for at least a couple hundred years in France now there had been several plans over the course of the years and decades leading up to his life, his own lifetime that had been presented to the French government, the French king what have you. In his day there was this... There emerged this thing called the Directory and he simply piggybacked on a plan that existed that was virtually the same as his plan that he presented except that original plan had the invasion of France staged from Crete

28:42 What Napoleon did was he entered the idea of using Malta as the launching platform to Egypt. Now, to us these days, the flag goes up and we go oh isn't that interesting? He wants to use Malta instead of Crete well this would be for the obvious reasons there were The Knights of Malta, of course were there and very much like the Knights Templar and other orders of the day. These were guys who are historians they were scholars of the arcane in the very same things that you know we're talking about Napoleon was interested in Masons are interested in such And of course We know that there are some pretty curious megalithic structures and other arcane historical mysteries

29:34 connected with Malta and I argue that he was quite aware of this, and that this was a primary reason that he chose Malta. Now it so happens that Malta was also a very good strategic move So it was perfect Everything just fell into place for this guy the stars were right his interests is personal interest where the primary motive for personal motive Going to egypt and it just so happened that the perfect place that he needed to go see that you wanted to stage from was also an excellent.

30:13 strategic choice so it made the circumstances made it so easy for him to convince France, the French government to back him on this given the resources and let him go to Egypt. Now lets not be naive at that time there were people in the French government Maurice how we ran the mong on who like nothing better than the idea of getting this young upstart whose popularity was growing rapidly. they love the idea of getting him as far away from France as possible. So, they loved the idea and supported it and said yes give him all the ships he needs, give them the army, give them all the supplies let him go to Egypt, he'll probably die there or get killed or languished then we don't have competition for anyone to block our political goals and aims

31:08 So it did serve some of their more cynical desires to see him go. So for all these reasons that it was good for France strategically and they wanted Napoleon out of the way, they backed him now he just used that because he wasn't naive. He knew what was going on with that. He said great you know I'm in command this army and they're gonna give me what I need so what he did was something that hadn't really been done on this scale since the time of Alexander the Great. I think a previous French king had done this a little bit, and the various knightly orders during the Crusades had kind of double-dutied in this regard but what Napoleon did was he took over five what are called savantes which were philosophers scientists engineers science technicians He took over 500 of these guys

31:59 on this expedition of conquest with him even the officers in his own army were just be fuddled because they didn't understand it at first and the scientists or all treated like on the same level as officers like vip, that was the other thing some of these officers and soldiers relate huh you know what this is interesting so. That right there speak loudly to his intent of what he had planned to do in Egypt. And sure enough, once he got there and deployed these guys this was the birth of modern Egyptology. Napoleon's savants as he called them his scientists many of which were philosopher-scientists okay Freemason type guys and such these guys essentially you know they were the first Europeans who really pour through Egypt

32:53 and the ruins, and document all of this. And modern Egyptology is a direct product of Napoleon's expedition. Hmm... Provocative! Let's get into hypergeums or hypergeums a little bit in this sacred resonance of 111 Hertz This comes into play with malta little bit cuz apparently there are two in france and then the oldest one might be in malta maybe napoleon had access their you know he was an experienced meditator who. Thought that it helped him for see what might happen and that's really interesting and what is these hypergium so important,

33:39 Well it's because first of all the period in which they're made, I mean these things are ancient and the fact that there carved out of rock the way they are. And not only have they carved out a rock the way they are Just imagine one big gigantic huge you know mountain size stone and that's how these things are. Call it out into rooms in the kitchen doorways and passage ways and all this but the fact that they do in such a way that the acoustics the sonics of the thing or so,

34:16 accurate, you know that You have to wonder what knowledge what scientific and technical knowledge did these ancients have and who were they? build these hypotheons What's interesting is they were also known to exist in Egypt and certainly when you look at the men around Napoleon Bonaparte and his own personal interests, but his main mentor was Gaspar Monge who was known as the father of descriptive geometry. And who himself was very much a philosopher scientist and would talk with and school Napoleon in these things so

34:55 Napoleon, before he even went to Malta. I argue that even though the... and I always mispronounce it, I apologize, the Hypogeum was not we are told was not discovered until after Napoleon's time. I suggest that maybe the secret societies interested in these ancient structures already knew it was there because you had already for a long time, you have the Knights of Malta on the island of Malta and you had philosopher scientists in technicians among them, I argue that they likely found the hypogonium on Malta and just kept it secret for years. So the modern discovery that we're aware of is on the books in our time

35:41 I think that was really just either a rediscovery or it was time to go ahead and reveal this publicly, but it's there for whatever reason. So I argue that...I suggest, I should say, that Napoleon before he went to Malta, he was aware of the Hypogeum's existence and it was one of the things he was curious about. And therefore my suggestion further implies that someone among the Knights of Malta showed it to him, gave him a little tour of it. Remember he took several members, Knight and their support staff with him to Egypt so you know that further suggests the possibility who were these guys we don't know I argue that it was again the philosopher-scientist among the Knights of Malta I think were the ones he took with him to Egypt

36:34 I would say that because of what we can legitimately suspect about his association with secret societies and other groups interested in the arcane mysteries of the past, that Napoleon probably knew quite a bit more about Malta than standard history offers us. Mm-hmm and I'm right there with you if you have an ancient site especially if it's some type of technology. I'm not surprised that groups of people privileged people know about it, and keep it a secret Like I said, especially if it is some type of technology. It has this sacred resonance of 111 hertz and as you note modern MRI machines have shown that 111 hertz can turn off the prefrontal cortex and deactivate the language centers

37:21 And this really starts to tie in nicely with Joseph Farrell's recent Microcosm and Medium, which we covered with him a few weeks back. But this idea of a frequency that plugs the person right into the collective unconscious—this cosmic quantum internet kind of thing— might these structures unlock this type of gateway? Oh I think so! I definitely think so and i think we do find this further into the story here when Napoleon goes into the Great Pyramid and spends the time in the King's Chamber, I think that one of the reasons if not the really main personal reason Napoleon wanted to stage from Malta was because he thought there would be some type of technological thematic likeness between

38:16 what was in the Hypogeum in Malta and what he would find in the Great Pyramid. And going back to, you know, what she pointed out before that yes, he was an enthusiastic meditator believer of meditation. This was I think his primary motive as regards this particular subject we're talking about—the acoustics of these ancient structures—I I think he fully intended to do what I say he ultimately did and that was tap in. To that deeper level or higher level of conscious reality or consciousness without their available.

38:58 It's still so much over my head but i am learning more and more that frequency is such a huge element of our reality it seems like really. Dialing in and mapping out these frequencies can have all sorts of effects on the human body on potentially levitating stones on, consciousness projection, all sorts of things and it really is fascinating. I mean even Tesla's famously quoted as saying if you want to understand the universe think in terms of frequency and electricity a couple other things but frequencies definitely in there and let's get into the great pyramid so to speak and that big diddy or didn't he question because it's definitely relevant to this tapping into the collective unconscious memory bank idea

39:44 A person thinks that's the sort of thing the pyramids were for. But what do the available sources say about Napoleon and The Great Pyramid, and that legendary rumor? Well, the story as we know has been out there presented usually as one of those apocryphal tales. In other words it is said or someone once rumored that Napoleon Bonaparte spent a night in the Great Pyramid specifically in the King's Chamber and he came out pale and just mortified you know at a loss for words And when asked what happened

40:25 he said you wouldn't believe me if i told you and that's the tale that has been making the rounds for years. You know I wondered okay is there anything to this? And what you find when you do the research, yes there's indeed something to this now the claims otherwise that it did not happen originated with a gentleman named Very very last name he was a schoolmate of napoleon's who in their adult years went on to work for napoleon as one of his personal secretary now unfortunately berrien had some ethics issues.

41:08 was caught violating various rules and ethics, and was fired I believe twice by Napoleon for these issues in shortcomings. And basically it kind of pissed him off so Burien is the source of a lot of the negative untruth about Napoleon you know among his contemporaries and Burien is Widely recognized and has been for a while by modern historians as an undependable source So burian is the source of the story that no Napoleon didn't want to go inside the pyramid because he would have had to crawl through a tunnel And that was beneath him. And then this gets perpetuated By early historians

41:56 among them by the time you get in the 20th century, Christopher Harold, the author of Bonaparte and Egypt. The book I had mentioned earlier. And since Harold wrote his book really Burien as a source has been mostly discredited on a lot of things about Napoleon because when you look at the other sources, all the other biographers. The contemporary sources in the journals of these guys who were there with him and all the scholarship repeatedly talks about specific dates that he spent this day or these many days or weeks at Giza where the pyramids are and literally at the pyramid. And it talks about him getting a tour of the pyramid inside, and it talks about even the history more than one source talked about how on a particular date one of the journals of his contemporaries on a particular date as Napoleon was emerging from inside the Great Pyramid he was informed

42:56 of a coming military conflict at Abu Qarabay. We have all these other sources that were there, that talk about Napoleon spending hours inside these pyramids and in the Great Pyramid in particular he was very fascinated with it even said it was the thing that fascinated him and scared him most anything in the world than you ever saw. He was quoted as saying that so what we have are all these historical reports. We have the fact that he spent so much time in and around, you know, in Cairo and he spent so much time in and around Giza So with his fascination with these reports of...you know on other dates He was seen to emerge from being inside the pyramid and crawling all over the pyramids and such That this specific

43:52 time that is associated with this apocryphal tale about the night he spent in the pyramid for seven hours specifically, the circumstances of all the other historical reports support that Napoleon was indeed there at the time of the Apocryphal Tale and did indeed with his personal interest and think about all the effort that he had made to get to Egypt. Okay, and all the military fighting that all the stuff they had to do all the obstacles And he's not going to go inside the pyramids It's a ridiculous assertion that none of the you know The vast majority is the historians don't agree with that assertion either so the circumstances and the known facts in the legitimate Reliable sources also port the idea that Napoleon did indeed among other times spend for that particular night on

44:44 from the story that we hear inside the pyramid, inside the King's Chamber. And when you look closer at the influence of Gaspar Mange it makes even more sense that he spent a night in the king's chamber Hmm. Yes, I think that's awesome to point out all those sources and it definitely seems like we have more To go on that says he was there than wasn't and I guess one of the big questions is what the pyramids were for without That it's kind of hard to extrapolate anything else really The ideas range from them being weapons or energy sources Or like we said out-of-body journey machines all that's on the table. I've also heard

45:27 stories that they found monoatomic gold in the king's chamber and we've talked about alchemy before as well. Where do you land on the pyramids? Oh, I think it's an all of it kind of answer almost. I think it was built with an understanding of high science. It was built as some type of machine This structure is capable of serving as a kind of a huge psychotronic processor device, so to speak. It can be weaponized and I think at one time it probably was

46:11 It could also have been used to power a city of an advanced civilization. It could've been all these things. I don't think, of course Napoleon didn't answer that question of what it actually was and i dont think that was his primary intention Because that's such a big question right i mean that's a big question in our day and we're coming closer to try to answer that but i think. For him he was keenly interested in it's psychotronic qualities and possibilities, and i think that was his main focus and i think gas bar marge

46:50 i think gaspar monge had suspected something based on whatever he knew about the pyramid and i think munch was the one that nailed it and that's what allowed napoleon to do whatever it was he did, it resulted in his experience that you wouldn't talk about. Yeah, Monge is an interesting guy. He does seem to kind of fit that wise wizard advisor archetype for Napoleon and you mentioned the Monge point some geographical proof that relates specifically to seeing layers or depth or underpinnings of a tetrahedron or a pyramidal shape and that's a curious connection as well

47:36 Yes, the Manj point is a point in a tetrahedral object or pyramidal object. A pyramid falls within the category of when you dig into the Manj Point it's that point at which multiple dimensions intersect now Manj of course came to this mathematically And I think he wanted to test his idea in the Great Pyramid because his knowledge of the pyramid at that time and certainly what he built upon between the time they first arrived at Giza, and could actually get their hands on it so to speak

48:18 and the time that Napoleon actually had his episode, this was almost a year. This was several months so Manges had a bunch of time to look at the King's Chamber, look at the dimensions of everything do his calculations and apply this concept we call the Manges point to human consciousness human being inside the pyramid and of course he used his protege Napoleon Bonaparte who was a serious practitioner in meditation as the test subject. Now I have to say it in the book, im gonna admit right here Im not a math guy okay

48:58 Those technical aspects of this book were the most difficult for me to write and I paid the most close attention as i wrote those parts because I knew that, okay. I got to get this right because this is some deep stuff here now someone like Joseph Farrell or someone who's more adept at math you know will more easily pick up The concepts but essentially that's what we're talking about was gas bar mosh had some ideas about the pyramid and he used his protege is getting paid as it were his willing. I love it man i think you're absolutely right there are some kind of connection between geometry and mathematics on paper, add how they relate to the real reality its why i think

49:52 Mason's are so tied up in is it knowledge because there is a correlation there between the techniques they used to build and. Unlocking reality and multiple dimensions in consciousness and that whole pandora's box of paranormal stuff that we talk about on shows like this. Yeah, and i didn't mean to gloss over by any means you know people are wondering well what did happen with Napoleon in there? And what did this monge point have to do with it? What I think were talking about here Here is what I suggest here my speculation Is that Napoleon Bonaparte

50:31 the master at meditation already, he goes into the king's chamber. He lays down inside what is popularly called the sarcophagus but there was never anything to indicate that this pyramid was a tomb or the King's Chamber was ever a tomb and he lays down inside this thing and begins to meditate at the Manju point it is my argument that these sarcophagus That is where you find the money point of the great pyramid and i think gaspard marge new this calculated it. And that's why you know he had napoleon do that i think napoleon laid in that sarcophagus during those seven hours, he was able to connect his consciousness through meditation

51:23 Who is the cool not you know much calculated mathematically but you know the idea. What's that there was a physical actual money point it's kind of a port like a computer or on the back your computer that should plug in the usb cord to write and napoleon plugged his consciousness, into that launch point inside the so-called sarcophagus the granite box and took just a wild ride of his life through time and space. Yes i would say that's a solid hypothesis is definitely provocative and it's definitely in the wheelhouse things that are entertained as possibilities,

52:07 And as we close this thing out, is there anything else we should tell the people about? New books in the works. Your website or maybe TV adaptations of your books. Anything we should throw in? Well the dramatic series development of the empire of the wheel books is getting really close to the next stage and that would be the association with a network. And such it's getting its looking great though the producer has shared with me the concept of the series the historical figures and the fictional characters that are interwoven into it. So, that's going really well. I'm working on some other publishing projects and some work on a little bit of fiction. I'm doing of course some non-fiction research at the same time on a book about AIDS

52:56 Asian mythology and black magic in dark things a book about that might emerge here soon, and of course my books are available at lulu dot com lulu dot com and. I think i have the walter bosley channel youtube but yeah thats all i can think of off the top of my head right now Nice. Well, you're a busy man good luck with everything You wrote a great book here raised a lot of interesting questions And I look forward to more until then take care out there and thanks again for your time Thank you It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood A beautiful day for a neighbor Thanks for tuning in again today people Walter Bosley the esoteric Napoleon

53:49 Just a nice off the radar episode that I've been looking forward to getting out to you guys for a few weeks now. Of course, a big part of my job is scouring the internet for good topics and often times that means going back to some of my favorite guests and seeing if they have anything new out And I contacted Walter right away when i saw this book and said hey man... ...I've already ordered it give me a little time to read but you'll come back and talk about this right? And luckily he was willing and able because this is a subject matter that no one else is researching, and kudos to him for digging these things out of history and holding them up to the light. I definitely learn a lot every time I talk to Walter from that first conversation about Latitude 33 all the way right up to today! The stuff about hypergeums or hypergeums today was really awesome

54:44 Everything from Malta to Egypt, up and down. The whole thing intrigues me And fortunately it's a pretty natural place to start an interview about a book with part one of the book and praise be wouldn't you know? It was also my favorite section Merovingian bloodlines are provocative as is dodging your sentencing to exile and moving to the New Atlantis instead But part 1 really really did it for me Though Walter does make a really great case that Napoleon lived out his days in America not exiled on an island. And not only is it a pretty compelling argument on its own, it fits my general view of things that the upper echelons never really face any punishment

55:32 Sure, in a war we'll let a couple thousand soldiers die per side but the top brass or when it comes to assassinations anyone who's acting on behalf of the cabal is generally captured alive or they escape and just don't face a lot of consequences in most cases. Even Hitler of all people lived out his days peacefully in Argentina They tested the skull that was supposed to be his and it wasn't even a man's skull. Plus there are so many witnesses who knew him or saw him there, there are photographs... That is probably the biggest example but then there is also Bin Laden! Does anyone really believe he was killed in the Seal Team 6 raid and buried at sea? Yeah sure

56:20 Most of the alternative accounts would say that he died a few years before that, but he was living well until he wasn't. I mean we don't even really have to go down the list of American presidents but Bush, Cheney both Clintons never held accountable Of course whoever really killed JFK also in that club and even John Wilkes Booth is said to have gotten away scot-free by some alternative accounts that we've talked about before I mean, we know this. It's just example after example Sure everyone is talking about the Epstein thing now but let's see who actually goes down for anything and what secrets really get revealed? I'm skeptical but i'm watching this show everyday But...I mean it's on MSNBC! It's on CNN Clearly there's a want to talk about it

57:14 A lot of the alternative threads I'm seeing are generally saying that Epstein seemed to be a Mossad agent and he not only held the blackmail file but filled it on their behalf, and that this pressure is going to mount because they're trying to force America to attack Iran. And that kind of makes sense to me but we're gonna see I have a show on the books about this scheduled for next month because i want to make sure we have the full story to talk about. I'd rather have a show that's deep and complete on this subject rather than just having the one that's first so, We will get into it don't you worry about that

58:02 But anyway, so the idea that Napoleon's punishment would just be a story we tell kids in school doesn't surprise me either. When very few people on that top rung ever really fall! But as I said, I really needed my memory refreshed when it came to Napoleon's bio in general and his conflicts...I know Walter considers himself a fan of the man And it is possible that he really did make things better for the citizens of the places he conquered. Maybe he was the original breaker of chains, but a lot of conquerors tell themselves that they've made things better for people who survived their invasion and that's easy to say right? I mean if your friends or family died fighting him off you probably wouldn't be swayed with a better tax rate

58:56 And as I said in the interview, you can read a lot of nasty stuff about him. And Walter isn't denying that he's just saying that it's propaganda cooked up by his political enemies and that's where it's gonna get really fuzzy because how do you sit in 2019 and make a conclusion that you can feel comfortable about when such a thing as British Imperial Propaganda is on the table? Because I'm definitely not putting anything past them either So like Walter said, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle. And you definitely don't have to be a fan of the guy... ...to be interested in his esoteric interests That's the point here and it was a fun show I know we're pretty deeply behind schedule this month This is only the third show to come out and its the 23rd

59:46 But our editor moved on to other things, so my lovely wife has been doing it again. And it's just not efficient for us because if we have plans together then no work is getting done as opposed to having an editor who would be working during that time So I'm in the market again. It's nice to save money, but I'll be scouting for editors for the next few weeks so we can free up her time again and get back to being more consistent! We had it there for awhile... But it has been a very crazy and unusual month putting the finishing touches on the website getting ready for that launch on 5th of August

1:00:30 Comic-Con was also this past weekend and for the first time in the 10 years that I've lived in San Diego, I had a badge with my name on it. So that was fun! It was a nice little staycation and a nice little distraction Obviously other things have factored into this month as well But what can I say? We're hustling...I promise you that Also in THC news, this month's joint session is coming up super soon the 25th at 7pm Pacific Time. That is THIS Thursday! So feel free to join me live or join THC Plus to see it on your own time if you're interested And of course the main attraction to being a Higher Side Chats Plus member Is treating yourself to the full two hour episodes of THC rather than just the first hour that you get for free

1:01:25 and still devoid of sponsorships I would add. I've had a few sponsor requests this year saying that i'm leaving a lot of money on the table by not putting ads at least in the free show, and not only that but then that would push people to plus because they'd want to avoid the ads... And I get it plenty of shows do that! I don't like it. The Plus Memberships are enough for me to get buy-on and the corporations can't buy me You will never see that happen as long as we stay listener supported and I don't see any reason why we wouldn't. Thanks to all you guys who take the plunge, it is the best feeling in the world really to know that this is my job

1:02:09 And so like every episode you can listen to twice as much show today with Walter where we get into stuff like the 1000 year conspiracy, an expose on an old Prussian group that loves to infiltrate their enemies and then play them against each other known as the Society of Lizards. Definitely something you don't hear about every day and also very fascinating And as i kinda mentioned in this wrap up we got into that question of if the real napoleon was the one that was actually exiled and i'll tell ya i am not so sure.

1:02:49 Then towards the end of the show we had to save some time for Ufology because it's been such a staple of Walter's previous appearances. He has this military and counterintelligence background, and of course it's so hot right now! But we got into how Walter's background actually affects his thoughts and analysis of the current ufology news and I appreciate his analysis there as well. All interesting stuff, I try to make it worth your while in fact i tried to build THC to be a triple win we focus solely on the guests and promoting their work in a professional fashion to a decent sized audience so they win and we have the plus system so I can afford to do this for a living instead of just asking you for donations and you getting nothing or making you listen to ads

1:03:41 You can make the choice to say, hey I like THC and the way this guy interviews people. I gotta hear those full shows! And right there i'm counting two more wins so come over to The Plus Side you'll love it all of it and we'll be best friends but I guess i'm getting out of here big thanks again to The Boz Walter Bosley never one to disappoint and i'll see ya next time your move secret mission takers bloodline makers and island exile punishment fakers Your fucking move. No one knows what it's like to be the bad man, to be the sad man behind blue eyes And no one knows what it's like To be hated, be faded, to telling only lies But my dreams is empty as my conscience

1:04:56 Seems to be I have been lonely, lonely Since they exposed me on THC No one knows what it's like To feel this feeling Like i do And I blame you! No one bites back as hard On their anger

1:05:43 None of my pain can show through But my dreams aren't as empty As my conscience seems I have a sense they exposed me from THC But my dreams aren't as empty As my conscience

1:07:09 I have outworked weight only since they exposed me on THC. No one knows what it's like to be the bad man, to be the sad man behind