Sylvie Ivanova | New Chronology, Ayahuasca Insights, Atlantian Survivors, & The Reformation Conspiracy

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00:43 Here we go, Hireside Chatters. Happy New Year! Drinking a little drink, smoking a little smoke... here's to living the dream in 2016 guys from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and i'm pumped for this show. I've said many times that it is almost impossible to separate the truth from The Power Pyramid's manipulations in almost all aspects of life Our religions have been altered and used as vehicles for war and division, our sciences have been carefully crafted to leave out powerful forces alternative scientists have stumbled upon. And lightning entheogens have been quarantined away in the land of the free where we don't even have control over our own state of consciousness."

01:19 And that's not even the half of it. We get almost everything we know from authorities that have been vetted by gatekeepers and worked to reinforce their established consensus reality, this is a problem! And unraveling these deceptions... That's where we get our kicks on THC and of course history is going to be one of these manipulated areas Sure, we've corrected little things like the heavily circulated lie that Columbus discovered America but what if the historical deceptions are wilder than most of us ever imagined? That is what today's show is about. And my guest, Sylvia Ivanova, is someone I'm lucky to have found and hopefully you guys will love but on her YouTube channel she has a series called When the Atlantis and Hyperborea Survivors Wake Up? And she details a history that is radically different than our own and she does a lot to back it up In this show we talk about Russian researcher Anatoly Fomenko's work in his book series You know how like my Russian researchers

02:13 But his work also plays a huge role in Sylvie's series. And she really was one of the first to grasp the work and incorporate it into something for an English audience I guess they've translated his books now, but even still in Russian there are seven and in English four. But Sylvie and Fomenko point out a lot of the same flaws but come to pretty radically different conclusions Sometimes it was hard to separate the two because I didn't have a lot to go on when setting this up, but really as difficult as it can make my job. This is what I like! I've been looking into alternative stuff for a long time and its awesome just to hear from someone pulling mostly from non-English sources just to help us peer behind the language barrier and see what alternative researchers outside of our own bubble are finding And so much of the evidence is visual that I highly suggest you check out the series

03:01 But this THC is a great primer, I think. And even when talking about ayahuasca which she has quite a bit of experience with it comes from a different perspective than the other voices i hear talking about it and even that is interesting to me so let's just dive into it one of my new favorite researchers Sylvie A. Ivanova tell them Charlie It's the Higher Side Jets podcast but you can call it THC Always talking fringe ideas, digging up conspiracies Stuff they don't want you to know is the stuff we wanna see That's life here on The Higher Side It's the place for me. It's my favorite show where the guests are great And my mind gets blown The Higher Side Love The Higher Side

03:53 Raise your glass and toast to Carl Wood, the host on The Higher Side Chat Show! That's life here on The Higher Side Chat Show! Alright people, we've long entertained the idea that much of what we know is probably heavily manipulated by the shadowy elite. From science and history to current events and the environment itself. And many of us gather here because we feel something is off. We hear whispers of a world far different than ours today, and see many sights and artifacts that just don't fit with mainstream stories shoveled into our heads through school systems handed down from on high and upheld under threat of incarceration with a smile

04:43 Well today we're going to examine the idea that our entire timeline of history and civilization's development is a fabrication cooked up by those nefarious few only a couple hundred years ago, and in the words of today's guest Silvie Ivenoa was forced upon all corners of the earth through military might and reinforced ever since with constant propaganda. So a lot of this information is coming out of a conspiratorial section of research people are calling the New Chronology Movement, where guys like Russian researcher Anatoly Fomenko have been outlining these errors and in his case trying to correct large chunks of the narrative that seem out of place in his huge four book series History, Fiction or Science which for the longest time wasn't even available to an English speaking audience.

05:25 Well lucky for us, Sylvie A had been one of the first to do something about that and included much of Fomenko's work in the videos found on her YouTube channel New Earth. And a more impressive series on this topic I gotta say...I have not seen! She really is one-of-a kind and is uniquely qualified to speak on the topic. She spent a lot of time with indigenous cultures who have relayed to her their remnants of the true history, she's heavily researched the academics PhDs and scholars who also realize something is wrong with the official narrative and she's gained even deeper insight from our over 200 tangos with ayahuasca it's truly honor and pleasure Sylvie welcome to THC

06:02 It's a pleasure to be on your show. Thank you! Oh, no problem thank you there are very few guests I could have on even talk about this stuff so i feel very lucky to have you because I find this so interesting and anytime we're talking about manipulation that reworks things we've taken as a given or maybe hadn't considered to this extreme it can be hard to wrap our heads around So what should we say about this new chronology movement just start off? What exactly is being suggested here It is being suggested that the entire historical paradigm that is taught in schools needs a very serious revision. Probably, the history as we know it has been correct for more or less the last 200 years and before that it was heavily edited

06:58 Dive into antiquity, the further we go into the bygone ages the more manipulated it gets. Well, actually Natalia Fomenko discovered it absolutely by chance. He is an academic mathematician but he was not in the field of history at all and he was researching a physics topic why the moon was behaving very oddly in the past

07:37 He decided that this was strange. He could not believe that a few hundred years ago the moon was rotating in completely different manner and while researching why it could be so, he discovered that it wasn't the case! The moon was always rotating in the same fashion but physics were taking for granted certain data for the lunar eclipses must be correct because they come from old Chinese books. So he discovered that the books were interpreted in a wrong fashion and then he noticed that this suggests, that the entire timeline should be different if

08:27 That means that the historical events, which are also placed in time according to similar assumptions must be wrong as well. When he started researching the matter in more detail He was surprised for himself! He could not believe the results at first himself Then he went more and more into history and embarked on this huge project of compiling a new timeline. In the beginning, as he says himself, he could not believe it himself how different was the reality from what we are told in school! But my series about these survivors of Hyperborea and Atlantis is only partially based on his work there are some

09:25 major differences and to start with he doesn't even mention Hipperborea in Atlantis. He says everything started 1000 years ago, which is one of the very few points where I don't agree with him but i still believe that he's the most reliable source for what we call ancient history and medieval history, and recent history. But as far as the history of extreme antiquity he does not touch this point at all

10:05 Okay, yeah I thought that was really interesting too but it is important to note this thing with the moon eclipses. I think that's really compelling because apparently when you look back at the historical record of the recording of the eclipses The Sky Robert Newton said the moon was behaving very strange in the past and That's because he didn't think to change the calendar He just assumed oh well the calendars right and these Moon eclipses are way off, so that must mean the moon was behaving differently. But instead what Fomenko did is actually say well no no no the calendar is man-made So let's look at the calendar and try to straighten that out in accordance with the information about the eclipse and that's where a lot of this manipulation comes from I think that's a fascinating thing because it gives some evidence as to why this could be true

10:57 Well, this was just the starting point. Later on he found even more evidences and he compiled many volumes with such evidences He and his colleague Nosovsky also did travel to various places and found lots of confirmations for what they couldn't even believe themselves in the beginning. So talk to us about a little bit of the evidence it seems like a lot of the original documents that are supposed to support a lot of old history, it seems like they might be fabricated? Yes partially or completely and it mainly happened during the time of the Reformation

11:45 Certain monks were given a task to correct the old books and they did their work. They corrected them, corrected the books to suit the new paradigm into which humanity was channelled and made to walk in. The new paradigm in which humanity was artificially placed Right, the Reformation and I guess we know about this period in history but it's... It itself is manipulated right? The suggestion for this new chronology is that it was a lot more bloody and a lot more aggressive with spreading this new narrative. That's the idea! Yes, the reformation nowadays if you ask someone on the street he will tell you some sort of religious movement

12:44 They didn't want church bells or organ singing. They wanted to translate the Bible into a more understandable language but in reality, it was an extremely bloody war! Many nations in Europe had large percentages of their population simply wiped out and apparently, it was extremely turbulent even Till date, the mainstream historians cannot even provide sensible reasons why people were killing each other. But yet they're assuring us that it was like that with such confidence as if they saw it with their own eyes!

13:34 Yeah, and I was also surprised to learn about a long history of intelligent scholars who have noticed these flaws. Even Isaac Newton had doubts right? Yes he was still closer to the time when the true history was more or less known He had access to much more genuine documents than we do because the cleanup of the genuine old books were ongoing tasks through the centuries Now, most of them are gone missing but at Newton's time this was not the case. Till now and then you could get hold of real old books!

14:15 They've done a better job over time, gotten more refined at locking down that old information and making sure there's no holes in the story. I wrote down a couple of descriptions from your video of the scholars who have noticed this and have been discredited just so people can get An idea that this isn't just one or two fringe researchers, there's this guy Gunnar Heinzahn. Lived in Germany, studied philosophy economics and sociology in Berlin obtained his PhD in 1973 since then he has taught at the University of Bermen in Germany He was one of the first German critics of chronology and in 1982 co-founded together with three others The Society for the Reconstruction of the History of Humankind and Nature

14:58 His first book, The Sumerians Never Existed is based on clear historical and above all stratigraphical facts that shows the history of Mesopotamia in Egypt is 2,000 years too long. The mistakes being due to dates in the Bible." I mean that's impressive a lot of people are hearing this kind of thing for the first time and never really considered there could be this big of a manipulation and it could be this recent in our history but outside the English-speaking world, in the American bubble there's a lot of people that seem to be challenging us. Yes and its not new thing, the new chronology is not new idea before it was known maybe under the name of the artificial thousand years that was keyword

15:50 Many years ago, many people started noticing that the thousand years are very strange. They couldn't find any buildings that were surely built during these 1000 years also for a thousand years All progress of humanity kind of stopped even on continents that supposedly developed in complete isolation. Even in the fabricated American history, there are dodgy thousand years.

16:28 There were other librarians and scholars who have been noticing through the centuries that The books of supposedly ancient authors, ancient Greek and Roman authors were not at all ancient. They were just books written by their contemporary fellows and this has been going on! And this is extremely important because these sources are nowadays quoted as something absolutely indisputable

17:06 For example, on history channels and so on. That's where people gather their impressions about their history. It is. And can you explain to us how we get our mainstream story of history? I think most people think of it as an ever-changing culmination of human knowledge, but you talk about this official chronology which was just established in the 16th and 17th century as really almost entirely based on the work of this guy Joseph Scalinger and a couple of his students Is that right? Yes they compiled these

17:46 Semi-truthful history. There are many grains of truth in it, but it is difficult to find out what exactly is truthful and what isn't. After that it was imposed as an official history with the power of the authority of governments This is what most people nowadays do not understand. When they see historic documentaries on the famous channels, they think that this is the opinion held by the majority of scientists

18:33 But this is not the case. This is the opinion of scientists that are allowed to appear on such channels. There are many even mainstream scientists that hold completely radical opinions, most people don't even know that many scientist think that actually monkeys evolved from humans. People rarely hear about that, well I'm not saying i support this theory but there are scientists who have serious reasons to suggest such a hypothesis and it exists but people don't hear about it yeah

19:14 So, what's the justification for this? I guess at the time this fake history was created to justify the ruling families that were taking over Europe at the time. Well maybe that is from the point of view of the ruling families and maybe that is how they saw it but if we have to see it from a higher perspective who organized all these and who made this master plan and implemented it, holding authority over all these royal families who did the hard work on the ground so to say. These are different entities that I call parasites in my...I had to coin a new term! Right! And I think they're of

20:10 how to say, an origin that is not indigenous to our planet. Right yeah it sounds a little bit like the archons of Gnosticism there seems to be a lot of parallels there Yes to some extent. Okay so in the series you do call these perpetrators the parasites and you start this story with the ancient advanced civilization of Atlanta saying these parasites came and destroyed the culture from within leading to the survivors of Atlantis going out to the indigenous cultures and teaching them knowledge and trying to rebuild what can you tell us about these parasites who are they? And do you know where they come from

20:51 Well, that is one topic I have decided on purpose not to get into in my documentary. Because when people ask me about aliens and other races it's best if you see them for yourself! There are too many sources online but I think it is different when one experiences the things first hand. There are methods for those who are really keen to do it, my path was Ayahuasca and others may take a different path but I am not gonna give out details as everybody should discover for himself or herself!

21:40 Okay, yeah. Ayahuasca I'm fairly familiar with. I haven't got a chance to do it myself but i have smoked DMT. I know ayahuasca is far different but can you tell us a little bit about how it ties into this? How it might have helped to flesh out the story for you Well, Vaska first of all gave me the clarity of mind that is required for this research that I have embarked on recently. It happened this year that I started doing it on such a scale

22:18 I am not doing it alone, but mostly compiling the work of many other researchers. Now I will try to organize something of my own again with the help from viewers on YouTube But that requires clarity of mind and I am a completely different person after spending one or two years in the jungle. My software was upgraded so much because I drank almost every day for a long period and then stopped drinking!

23:00 The difference was indescribable! First of all, I had a clear mind and second of all, I didn't have an official degree in history. And this is very good in my case, because I think the most important qualification now is to be able to rise above all the preloaded information that one gets from school and education. The less one knows about it

23:35 The better. Because we all do it, all alternative history researchers take so many things for granted! For example if you open YouTube you will find thousands of videos telling you that you see Saksu Hermann and all these amazing megaliths in Peru they have nothing to do with the Incas because the Incas were primitive They couldn't do all this and the conclusion they reached was that there was a civilization, we don't know anything about it. Now it has disappeared and thats where the story ends but I question even more

24:16 I asked, do we really know how the Incas were? How did we know that they believed those mainstream scholars who have just seen lying to them that there was no ancient civilization. Although it's obvious that there was an advanced civilization with so many megaliths other amazing artifacts. So, first of all these researchers plainly say the official history is no good but then they believe it in terms of the stories that it tells them about the Incas! But if we continue pursuing this example... The full history of the kingdom of the Incas was extremely strange. They were

25:05 always at war on all fronts. Nowadays we are supposedly more advanced, a nation nowadays wouldn't be able to finance and support so much war on so many fronts with such numbers of population. They were not many according to this very same mainstream history, so they were all the time at war they were building at an amazing rate that we cannot replicate with our our so-called advanced technology, the full thing is basically a joke. So what I'm saying it's time to question even more! I don't say the Incas built all these megaliths, we don't know at all there is a chance that the Incas were in connection with people who built older megaliths

26:00 Yes, we can see that they are older because often on their ruins the Incas built their stuff on top in their typical Inca style. But there are some sites where the level of technology is kind of in between the level of the Incas and good old megaliths So I'm pursuing that line of thinking, that it is possible that the Incas were in touch with the builders of the old megaliths. Right and that is an important point! That a lot of alternative researchers make this case... ...that we apparently were more smart than we are now and we've devolved ever since then And the evidence does support that because with these megalithic sites The older layers underneath the structures

26:51 they seem more detailed and advanced, and the newer layers seem more primitive. And that backs up that idea that we've been slowly going downhill maybe ever since this point that manipulation took place? Oh I think it started much earlier This manipulation that i'm talking about in The Survivor Series is during the last few thousand years. I think it started much earlier during the time of Atlantis Both parasites and some good people from Atlantis survived that terrible destruction of the island.

27:29 So the two parties were there since that time, but in the beginning the survivors they knew their history and this active erasing of history started only in the recent century when people became dumb enough to buy it. And so in this paradigm we're We're putting Atlantis at about 7 to 10,000 years ago. Is that right? No no no! At this time I have no dating for Atlantis. I'm working hard on it. I want to achieve some really scientific results with the combined data from remote viewing past life regressions and reliable old texts

28:20 No, I wouldn't place Atlantis 7000 years ago. Maybe 20 or 30. I think 7 is the date. Probably you are getting the date of 7000 years ago, that still is the starting point for some very old calendars and that was an important battle that the survivors had with I don't know even whom somewhere probably in the area nowadays China I'm not saying... The Chinese people lived there at that time. God knows what race lived there but it was an important battle somewhere in Asia.

29:06 in their saga of being chased by their enemies for many thousands of years. Gotcha, okay and that is another interesting point in the videos you talk about Caucasians living in Japan it seems before the Japanese and there's some strange things going on there You talk about waves of survivors coming through how does this work with the races and these waves and some of this kind of stuff that Caucasians seem to be older or even that indigenous tribes and peoples seem to have memories, oral traditions of meeting Caucasians earlier than they're supposed to. Yes! That seems to be a very common pattern all around the world we see it in Japan

29:50 There are some Caucasian mummies in Australia, of course so many in Peru. In Africa at least they have the legends but since you asked about Japan... Yeah initially there were people that were well known and not disputed but what is not well known is that these samurais were actually belonging to the Caucasian race. That's why Fomenko and Nosovsky visited Japan a number of times, and they were very impressed with their own eyes' confirmation of their newly discovered history!

30:38 Right, you show a picture in the documentary of one of the last remaining samurais and it's so crazy that he doesn't look anything like what were shown in the movies about samurai. Yes yeah that's in the museum, the local museum where the last group of Samurai committed suicide So can you explain to us about the waves of survivors coming? Well, I don't know much about it but a team of anthropologists and absolutely mainstream anthropologists did very hard work. They noticed that all world cultures had kind of seven waves of art

31:26 passing through them or how to say it with better words. There were seven waves that started somewhere from Europe or Asia and engulfed the world! That is why we see matching designs in Asia and America for example The designs are definitely connected but officially these cultures developed in a complete isolation. So, this group of anthropologists reached the conclusion that these waves exist but at the end they had to say that we have no clue how it happened because these cultures had nothing

32:19 either geographically or in terms of time. They were continents apart and they were thousands of years apart! So, it looks like that but it shouldn't be like that and that's the dead end they reached. But now from the point of view of survivors this has a lot of value. It is the only research I don't know how correct it is, but this is the only one we have so far. You asked me specifically about the waves and there are supposed to be seven of them! When and how exactly? Details...I hope that one day I can discover more about that yet.

33:07 Sure, yeah. I mean this is a huge undertaking to kind of try to piece all this together in spite of the elite trying very hard to cover it up You also have talked about talking to indigenous tribes Is there any kind of insight you've gotten from them first hand about their oral traditions or stories that don't fit in with the official narrative? To be honest, I have done a lot of trouble. I was lucky that most of my adult life I spent traveling and now I am resting for two years finally! I never had this opportunity before

33:44 But when I did my travel, I didn't record legends or anything like this. I was not actively doing historical research. I gathered other types of wisdom from them I mostly saw how they relate to the world a bit differently and that enriched me in many ways. But, I have to be honest, I have not recorded any legends as such Sometimes, now and then for example from the Peruvian jungle on the topic why Ayahuasca survived. It is such an amazing thing! It is such a deep programmer from this matrix that we are put in by force by being born into society and Ayahuasca just deprogramms you

34:43 How could the parasitic forces allow such a thing? It happened like this. These tribes, I saw myself because I was there, they live in such an inhospitable environment and the floods are so bad Every year, their houses are just covered with water. In many villages that is 2-3 meters high! It's just a normal thing and not some unusual flooding.

35:20 They would take their possessions, which were usually two or three pieces of clothing and one cooking pot per 20 people. They would go to a hill and make some sort of shed and wait for the floods to finish and get back to their simple homes. So this is a kind of difficult life, there is no infrastructure and with advanced ones it was just too uncomfortable for us and we couldn't reach there! That's why...

35:57 Those people could keep the tradition. I was asking them about legends and about Ayahuasca, and they told me no! We are actually wild people we didn't have any That's what they told me, I'm not offending them. This was told to me by Shipibo people! They said that we didn't have any culture and we never had any writing or anything at all It was the Incas who had all that, but they sent us to these bad places to live with flooding because we eat people and are not eligible for civilization like them. Oh man! What we know is actually very little. Only the Incas had this knowledge that you're asking about.

36:57 So, if the uncivilized people who call themselves uncivilized had Ayahuasca and how to educate themselves with the power of Ayahuasca then I'm asking what did the Incas have? The educated ones. We can't even imagine! Right... Man so A big shocker in this theory is that it seems like our history of different cultures has been stretched out a lot longer than we're told, especially when it comes to a culture like the Egyptians or something. And I think skeptics might have a little trouble with this how do we throw out

37:40 things like carbon dating and the fossil record and other methods that we have, that give us the story we have today. How can we distrust that kind of science? Well, we can distrust it by educating ourselves and reading about it. If we spend a few days researching all the materials on carbon dating, we will find what the mainstream scientists themselves say about its reliability and accuracy! It has accuracy with a range of few thousand years. That's what they say, but this is not told in the documentaries shown for example on The History Channel Over there they give you simplified version

38:34 With carbon dating it has been established that this happened during the reign of this and this king. So you are given a conclusion but you're not given details on how the experiment, how the actual test was conducted and usually these tests are not conducted in the way they should be, right? manner in which you do a proper carbon dating test is, you send the sample absolutely anonymously. Not the way they do it that they attach tag with expected result and surprise surprise! You're always right no there should be no tag attached It should be completely anonymous and also samples should be sent to few laboratories

39:23 that should test it independently because the nature of the tests performed is like this, that they give random results very often. One test cannot be trusted if you want reliable results you must have it tested in four or five laboratories and people working in these laboratories should have no clue what are they testing and then they will give you a range for let's say 2 000 years And that is the actual result. But these details, especially the accuracy range is not explained in the history textbooks. It is not explained in the documentaries that form most people's view on history. Just some ear is given and people get the wrong impression that there is a test

40:23 such an exact dating but that is not the case. That is just one side of everything which is the good side I mean there is definitely some truth to carbon dating it's not a complete farce, but the sad part is that it depends upon the speed of certain reactions chemical reactions of the carbon So, what is exactly this speed? The speed with which the carbon changes over time. Well, this isn't known actually but they have to use some sort of value for this speed to get results for their tests otherwise the equation will be incomplete you cannot solve an equation when all parameters are unknown

41:22 So how to make it known? They take historic events, the date of which is known for sure and then they calculate from the test results connected with these events like the eruption of Vesuvius. They test organic materials that were buried under this eruption All that is with the assumption that Vesuvius erupted this and this year during Roman times. Now, the problem comes that this is taken as indisputable truth which is not at all the case! In reality, this volcano erupted probably 300 or 400 years ago. Even if it's just a hypothesis

42:15 that it erupted 300 or 400 years ago. Still, it is highly questionable that it really erupted in Roman times but this was one of the main events, the eruption of Vesuvius which was taken into consideration when the values for carbon were calculated The other events that were taken as certain in terms of time when they occurred, maybe not all. I don't know them all but at least many of them are highly questionable so if the events are with questionable times then the result will be also highly questionable

42:53 Right, I mean that does make sense. It's like the elite or these parasites they establish tools that reinforce what they want us to believe and then any scientists or academics or PhDs who are really trying to do the work They're dealing with faulty tools so they come to faulty conclusions is that about right? Yes, and also I am asking what is the problem to just lie about the results. They have been caught lying so many times... Yeah they have been caught lying quite a bit And you mentioned the Roman Empire A part of this paradigm suggests that there really was no great Roman Empire right? There was something very similar to it

43:41 The Roman Empire and many other empires are just reflections of the empire of the survivors, what I call. At some point the survivors had to withdraw to only certain areas of the planet. In the beginning, they were spreading their culture all over the earth but when the parasitic influence got stronger, the need for boundaries appeared and then this country... I don't know how this country called itself

44:22 But nowadays we call it with many names and many of the ancient empires are only reflections or as Fomenko calls them phantoms of this great empire. Right, this is one of the big areas of deception here. Apparently the story that we're given is just really the story of human warfare and religious warfare and were told that we were always fighting and warring and royalty was just conquering indigenous people everywhere And it seems like at this time with the Reformation or maybe slightly beforehand due to this parasitic influence

45:04 The land used to be a lot more communal I guess, we used to be a lot more of a united people is what is being suggested here and that the institution countries and borders is kind of what created this division and creating this division was all part of setting up this new control grid. Is that kinda accurate? Yes, most definitely! If you have an enemy... This is the most elegant way to finish the enemy off from make people that are fighting fight themselves.

45:41 Genius! That's what they have done. We are now killing ourselves, there is no need for external force and we organize ourselves into wars and all kinds of not very nice activities... What kind of evidence is there to suggest that we were a more united, more peaceful species before this parasite got in and really did a number on us and really worked to divide us only a couple hundred years ago? My guess for now is that it got really bad some 1,000 years ago. Before that I believe

46:24 The land was common, more communal as you say. I don't think it's only the last few hundred years but probably the worst started 1000 years ago! Okay... I can't prove it for now but this is the general feeling that I'm getting and only now am I starting to research older times Until now, this first season of the Survivors was concentrated on recent history. Now I am turning my attention to the really ancient one but it seems that the worst started 1000 years ago and Christ came 1000 years ago

47:13 diminish a bit the evil that will be upon humanity to some extent. Yeah, another...to quote another one of these doubters of the official story that you have in one of your videos this guy his name was Edwin Johnson he died in 1901 but he was a professor of classic literature and New College in South Hampstead England He ended up writing a book stating that the Christian church was created in the monasteries of France around 1500, the classical works of the fathers of the church were written by poorly skilled monks. The New Testament followed later and there are no older texts and it points to this historic invention of printing Martin Luther's reform was the first attempt to block the expanding French Catholic Church and before that there was no church at all." And that is super interesting to think

48:05 We're told the year zero with the Gregorian calendar is kind of where the Roman Catholic Church was established and to think that from year zero to 1500 is an invention, they kind of created their own back history. In general yes I don't think the full Christianity was created at that time but at that time it was twisted that's my perspective that earlier the Christianity was much purer It was based more on the teachings of Christ and around the time you mentioned, they corrupted the books. They mixed them with things that are profoundly not Christian like encouraging violence and other things in the name of God!

49:00 I think this is fundamentally not Christian. I don't think that this is part of the original teachings of Christ and at some point even the very God of Jesus Christ was substituted with another entity! Even mainstream accepted texts, records from that time and scholars were complaining about There is such an addition of the Bible, why are they adding so many things? Why are they even adding a new God? This is major development! We don't want that. Moreover this God seems to be very cruel. This doesn't look like the God of Jesus Christ!" So there were protests and they were recorded in history but it's...

49:56 Nowadays we protest against GMO and so many other things. It is recorded but little happens. And to go back to trying to back up this idea that there was a lot more cross-contamination between the cultures and it was a lot friendlier than we're led to believe, apparently there's a lot of Russian artifacts that have religious symbols on them that they shouldn't have and also Egyptians apparently had some references to interacting with Christians which is also way

50:32 different than our official history. What can we gain from those kind of insights? What can you tell us about those anomalous artifacts?" Well, maybe we should stop calling them anomalous I think they are the normal actually Fair! What can i say full passages of the bible are written on the ancient supposedly ancient walls of the egyptian temples I don't mean that all of the wonders in Egypt, including the Great Pyramid were created a few hundred years ago. No! Probably there was something even before that...

51:10 But the end, the demise of the culture happened much later than we are told. That's the main point! It was still thriving during the time of Christ that is why they suppressed the real dictionary and translations of Egyptian texts There is such a dictionary but they said it wasn't right Why it is wrong? Because they say it's wrong and then they started to look for some other type of translation.

51:49 They made somebody famous, that is Champollion. He deciphered the hieroglyphs and they made a big noise about it! After the whole world was convinced by the mass media that Champollion finally deciphered everything then they started silently admitting that all their translations were correct and now we understand the truth Actually, the older translations are the same as the newly discovered translations. Everything is the same but you're not allowed to have Christian stuff on the

52:30 walls of the Egyptian temples. And many others! In this episode about the fabricated history of religion, supposedly Christian Russian kings wear quotes from the Quran on their forehead inscriptions At the same time, Islamic and Muslim kings minted coins depicting themselves with Christian crosses and other Christian symbols. I think this shows that things were radically different than we are told they were!

53:19 Yeah, and when you talk about Egyptian culture having artifacts where they interact with these Christian groups another part I thought was really interesting was Because it's very, it's a very shocking idea that the Egyptian culture is much more recent than thought. But you show a book in the documentary where It is basically the translation and it is the alphabet and people used to go in through Egypt And do the translations themselves they'd have little translator book with them just like any other culture if you were to go to Japan before the internet You have a book for translation and people used to kind of do this themselves

53:56 And then that was all stripped away and Egypt was thrust into the past but apparently, according to some people who are in this new chronology movement it was Napoleon who really did the wiping out of the Egyptians. Is that true? Mm-hmm together with Champollion yeah they were Players in the same team yes. So to get the timeline right would we say that Napoleon going to Egypt and destroying that culture was kind of in line with Columbus coming to America and destroying the culture here? Yes, this was a wave of destruction. We usually call it colonialism! I am not sure how much the people who were executing the plan on the ground were aware what they are doing. Probably they had completely different understanding maybe some of them considered it patriotic or religious

54:54 whatever explanation they had in their minds, but the overall master plan was to eradicate as much as possible from the artifacts and historic sites that show connection with the survivors of Hippoborean Atlantis. Man, it is so interesting and it's weird because its a common thing for alternative researchers who are looking at sites like Gobekli Tepe in ancient Egypt. They look at these sites and they push them back further in history. They admit there was manipulation but they push these things back way further than the official record of humanity but it seems like some of these cultures we should really be moving up a little bit

55:46 I don't know about Gebekli Tepe. I think we should not trust any dating at all for now because even this 10-12 thousand years that is also mainstream dating, it has no meaning for me at all. I see two distinctly different periods, an older one with the bigger megaliths and then those walls that connect the older megaliths they resemble remarkably the inkwork! They are so much more primitive than the bigger stones

56:29 So, I think that we don't even know how many periods or eras of civilization it was used in. I wouldn't be surprised if the bigger T-shaped megaliths are thousands of years old and then the rough stonework is hundreds of years old! Okay, and then like maybe there's a similar parallel with the Egyptians where who knows when it started It could go back well long long long time But what we're disputing here is the fact that it actually lasted a lot longer than were told. It did right?

57:15 Everything is possible! I don't really try to date the beginning of ancient Egypt. I can only say that at this point, the end was much closer. When was the pyramid built? I have no clue... The Mamelukes, the last keepers of Egyptian knowledge. This is a topic that deserves much more attention than it gets! I think this is one of the most interesting episodes for the survivors. Elaborate on that a little bit for us, if you could. Well, Mamluks many of them were actually blonde people coming from the north and they were still the ruling class in Egypt few hundred years ago actually They were respected by the local population and I think they were connected with

58:20 mummies, the Caucasian mummies of pharaohs and other unidentified Caucasian mummies that have been found in Egypt. The red-haired quite tall people so probably the Mamelukes were their last descendants there are records that they were Christian the Mameluke usually People just hear their names and they automatically assume that they were Muslims. They were Muslim towards the end but they kept their Christian roots for quite a long time! I think the Coptic Christians kept them much longer, but the Mamluks were probably the descendants of those

59:11 a blonde, tall people whose mummies were found in Egypt. That's why they were tolerated as ruling class although they were a minority. Obviously the people must have respected them for some reason! It is an unusual situation that the majority of one country will support ruling class that belongs to a different race. Usually, there is good reason for that and usually the rulers treat their subjects very well! To even remain alive in this situation with few hundred people ruling few million

59:59 I think the way they are portrayed nowadays as some sort of evil tyrants is absolutely wrong. They were caring, they cared for their subjects and that's why Egypt did so well before the colonial forces came in. For critics who might think this is too wild of an idea that the Reformation could have really been this effective and it's maybe too big of a cover-up with too many people involved. What can we say to those skeptics, to kind of help the case that it is reasonable to believe that the European expansion could really have done all this so effectively?

1:00:50 The only cure for such doubts is to get a hold of volumes of Fomenko's work. Many of them are available in English and they have perfect annotations, every quotation The source is given all these quotes about the Mamluks, that they were blonde and didn't even speak the local language. This is supported by a number of quotes from books that are considered authentic even by mainstream

1:01:26 I think this is the only cure for such skeptics. Reading Fomenko's books, this is just an interview and I cannot provide all quotes or sources. This is just to give you an idea. Those who want to see the actual material on which these claims are based the places, the seven volumes of the New Chronology. Right, there is no lack of evidence. I mean like you said the new chronology of Fomenko is seven volumes Your documentary series is I think 40? You know it's not like there's no information to go through you know There's a ton of evidence It seems and I guess if people are wondering you know why move these cultures around through history I guess the reason would be

1:02:22 to wipe out the idea of the survivors and to separate these cultures by time so that people don't get the idea that they were actually a peaceful united planet of civilizations. Yes, and if people actually become aware how Recently we lost our freedom and they will be shocked. That's the main thing! Now, we think that we have been always some sort of feudal slaves for thousands of years but this is not the case. The freedom was lost in recent times

1:03:04 Right on. Man, so I know we're wrapping up here as far as the new chronology movement's concerned How can English-speaking people follow up on this? Of course there is your series but is there any further research or any other names you could recommend to people who want to dig in deeper but don't speak Russian Well, they're publishing. I don't know where they have reached but they even started publishing the main seven volumes for free on their website in a PDF format Oh that's very awesome! I was curious about even trying to get Fomenko on the show but does he speak English do you know?

1:03:47 He does speak some English. Well, I've been thinking about asking him for an interview You should definitely you should there is a contact form on his website Please this will be very interesting Yeah, I'd really want to help further this study and expose it to English-speaking people This is right up our alley in what we do on the show Maybe if I can contact him and get in touch maybe you could translate for us or help facilitate the conversation I will definitely do my best, although i'm neither a native Russian speaker nor an English native speaker. But I'll do my best! What other languages do you speak? What's your native language? I speak... well now I learned a bit of Spanish as well after the jungle some German

1:04:41 Hindi i used to know fluent hindi also i speak bulgarian what else well six of them now. Wow yeah we're gonna have to stay in touch i'm sure this episode will be well received and And hopefully you can help bridge that gap and expose us to some interesting information in other languages, and possibly facilitate a conversation. I think that would be great! But really amazing work you do it is shocking but you point out so many artifacts that support this case very incredible if people have questions or things they can't work out after watching your series is there a way they can perhaps contact you? Or do you want to avoid that

1:05:26 Yes, most definitely! I am making a website megaliths.org now It will be a huge database of all the amazing ancient sites because there is no way to find them all together for example there will be sections for all the pyramids in the world with interactive maps Many other things and how people can get involved in this research, and of course my contact details. Very awesome. Well, I hope this draws new attention to your work and maybe some people will have their paradigm completely changed by this There's so much we didn't get to touch on I'd love if we could do it again sometime But until then very cool take care of yourself and keep doing the good work well Thank you very much for having me on tonight And I wish all your viewers enlightenment

1:06:28 Wow guys, I hope you dug that. And I liked hearing from a new voice too! And I asked Sylvie about a lot of things she probably can't know, and she was totally willing to admit that which i think is a great thing for her journalistic integrity. But you guys know as we point out the flaws and identify the holes We usually become more open-minded at the possibilities The truth could entail and with something like this it hinges on a few things Of course I think a lot of us are opened to the rough idea that there was an ancient advanced culture Atlantis and Hyperborea perhaps

1:07:12 And maybe the Cedars of Knowledge we've heard about were Caucasian looking people from these civilizations. Maybe they were escaping the destruction of their own culture from these parasites or maybe natural disasters as well, and maybe they spread out and integrated into less civilized cultures to pass on their knowledge and rebuild their world... a struggle they've been having ever since! Maybe this was a back and forth that was finally laid to rest with the Reformation, and the European expansion, and the Inquisition, and colonialism, and Spanish conquest. Is it possible? Could these have all been aspects of one campaign? Could it be that something more epic and not so distant was hidden away over that period in time? Could The Genie have been put back into the bottle just a few hundred years ago? Is a campaign of this magnitude feasible?

1:08:00 I think it is. I think it could have been done and maybe cultures we think just died out or disappeared were slaughtered and then moved further into the past It sounds weird, but we're faced with so many things that don't make sense What happened to that true psychedelic basis for religions in ancient times? What happened to all those megalithic sites? What's the deal with all the artifacts and clay pots and kids toys from the past that have dinosaurs on them. We talked about a few of them in The Plus Show, but they're there! And maybe something happened just a few thousand years ago that destroyed these advanced cultures... radically altered the planet killed off the larger reptiles that may have been normal at one time and caused the catalysts

1:08:41 to build all these underground tunnels and cities around the planet. I mean, hell just realizing that humans could have walked with dinosaurs and i'm not talking about creationist stuff in fact a lot of these guys and the flat earth guys are going in this direction that dinosaurs never existed that it's all a fabrication but i've seen artifacts that depict dinosaurs and places like the smithsonian won't display them and i think there's a reason for that and it's not because they were made up But even this notion that dinosaurs and mega mammals lived with man in the moderate past is enough to justify the huge tunnel systems. And we've even heard of giants too! How would you hide from man-eating giants in the ancient Americas? Most likely underground, I don't know... and I'm no expert clearly but when Sylvie was talking about the Arctic regions and the Sahara Desert in The Plus Show

1:09:32 it really struck a chord with me. I'm becoming more open to a radically recent cataclysm, and with that it's easier to understand how a parasitic elite could dominate humanity into such a position of servitude and ignorance as we're in today Maybe this manipulation hasn't lasted throughout humanity's timeline but humanity's timeline has been altered to reflect that it has And with it the psychological acceptance that this is how its always been and probably always will be is just the icing on the cake. Ask yourself if you think this is possible, before the time of internet or telephone or car or plane could a powerful group amass enough resources to pull this off? Well we talked about the Roman Empire being a fabrication and how interesting that it lasted from like 700 BC to 1453 64 years before the reformation

1:10:23 So if you have a period of time where you want to rewrite history and establish a certain dominance, You pretty much have to leave the last 60 years alone because people are still alive. But 64 years is about the time you could start making history up! but in the meantime 1478 we have the Spanish Inquisition 1492 We have Columbus in America a few short years later, 1518. Cortez in Mexico Could this be all part of the same elite and the same campaign? The same parasite making sure that their way is the only way Their history is the only history I think it's possible. Just 200 years from then we have World War 1 which really was just a conflict between ruling elite who were in the same family They were cousins So how did that happen How was that established

1:11:10 Honestly guys, I'm just a stoner out of my depth here. I am not an historian and I'd like to talk to historians open-minded enough to consider these ideas but usually when someone studies something for a long time they put more stock in it except those radical few who are then marginalized by the system Either way, I think it's amazing stuff. A global coup of humanity meant to wipe out knowledge of our peaceful past the enlightened leaders of Atlantis and the knowledge of this parasitic invasion that still rules us from the shadows? That speaks to my core! Of course it parallels with other ideas that are well known to conspiracy enthusiasts but with a sour fruity twist

1:11:48 Of course, we get into so much more in the second hour. The origins of humanity, money as a control tool, secret societies, the underground cities and tunnels, ancient maps, the hollow earth... ...the recent winterization of the polar regions? The idea that the Sahara Desert might not be as natural as we think? These kind of geographical oddities to me are the most fascinating We also talked about dinosaurs and mammoths, the power of manifestation, prophetic dreams and a good chunk about ayahuasca. All good stuff! And you know this... You've been listening to this show long enough to know it's a good one and that I'm fairly consistent so just sign up already What better time than the beginning of a new year? Go ahead and treat yourself

1:12:28 You know, I will say Sylvie's work is something that i was looking into and even brought up Fomenko's work with Crow the last time we talked to him. But on the plus forums she was suggested a couple of times And I really have to give a shout out to one of the plus people specifically Old Chuck Fort for helping me out with this one clearly he was familiar with her work And I asked for his input and he really did help me flesh out some of the things that i was going to ask her. Much appreciated man, let me know if you want your dollar back for this one? I'll be happy to oblige It's also been a couple weeks since I've heard from the app developer but it is coming! I did not forget about it But either way...I'm gonna keep doing what I do Hopefully this show will open up some avenues of similar nature that we can get deeper into

1:13:11 Be sure to reach out to Sylvie, let her know she didn't waste her time here. New Earth is her YouTube channel, Megaliths.org is her website And that's gonna be it for me today. Your move, Architects of the Great History Heist! Your fucking move... Sweet dreams to the elite We're calling them out on THC Uncovering secrets and conspiracies Everybody is looking for something Some of them want to use you

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