Robert David Steele | Open Source Everything, Upgrading Society, & Building The World Brain

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats How's it going Hireside Chatters? Drinking a little drink, smoking a little smoke. From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and i am really excited about todays show Robert David Steele was brought to my attention by listener request and as soon as I touched base with Robert and he told me his latest book was called Open Source Everything I knew that is was gonna be right up my alley just the kind of topic I was looking for

00:54 It's largely an approach that shoots for all the technological improvements and efficiency of something like The Venus Project without the totalitarian aspects that people seem to get all worried about. I actually feel more hopeful when i hear about some of these ideas. It's just that we have to get through to people about what the possibilities are because without that they don't see the difference between where we are and where we could be, they don't realize how angry they should be and how progress is actually being halted by The Old Guard but it's a really great positive topic for one of the last shows in the year so let's get down to it open source everything building-the-world brain and concepts for

01:32 full spectrum optimization to replace our corrupt, wasteful and decaying top-down structure that we've yet to wiggle out from underneath of with Robert David Steele. Boom! Alright folks, most of us recognize that nearly every aspect of modern society is in shambles decaying right before our eyes. Whether it be the education system which is ironically one of the biggest obstacles to a free thinking enlightened youth or our thinly veiled economy which funnels our good fortunes to powerful puppet masters and leaves us with an ice green shackle of debt clasped firmly around our collective necks like a helpless Princess Leia in the clutches of Jabba The Bangster

02:13 Well, today's guest Robert David Steele might just turn out to be our own personal Han Solo. He grew up all over the world as a son of an oil engineer witnessing colonialism and predatory capitalism up close and personal he has been a Marine Corps Infantry Officer, CIA spy even had brief presidential campaign in 2012 with the Reform Party. He also holds prestigious accomplishment being THE most published intelligence reformer in English language with 9 books and many more writings on subject A man who's been an insider and served the system, yet has emerged like a white knight from the deep dark belly of the beast to become CEO of Open Source Solutions and voice for what could be the next evolution in human society. The blueprint is largely laid out in his book, The Open Source Everything Manifesto Transparency Truth & Trust

03:02 And as much as I like holding a magnifying glass to the broken system and the crimes of the power pyramid, I like exciting new possibilities even more. So let's get this party started! Robert David Steele welcome to THC! Great introduction i'm glad to be here Thanks man, I try to get the people jazzed up and today with good cause. I'm very happy that you are willing to come on the show thanks so much for that there is a lot we could talk about and i really did love your book! I think you are right on with the open source idea and I'm pretty sure a lot of people have probably heard the term Open Source or might be familiar with it in the context of software

03:39 But how would you introduce this to someone who might not have a totally clear understanding of this idea right out of the gate? Well, I'm glad you give me that opportunity because most people understand open source is having to do with software and there are giants out there like RMS and Linux Torvalds. Richard Stallman is RMS but I like to talk about an Open Source ecology And what that really means is it open sources of mindset its a culture it's the way of doing business and so it doesn't just apply to software although if you take the information arena i just wrote something that seems to be popular in some circles on the next day to revolution.

04:21 Open source in relation to data includes open bts or open base transceiver station which is code for free cell phones, open cloud. Open data open government open hardware and software of course but then open standards and open spectrum and so across the board If you don't have all of the opens then your one single open is going to suffocate it won't scale it will be affordable and won't be inoperable and i want scale so people who talk about open government or open data without actually.

04:56 respecting the need for all the other opens are in fact running a scam because those are not real open government without all the other opens is not really open. Open data without open software and open hardware is simply a handout to proprietary vendors like ESRI beyond that you have open technologies and farming in business You have open money. You have something that's near and dear to my heart, Open Carry which is a Second Amendment constitutional right of every citizen so across the board open can apply to anything and it's really a conflict between or not a conflict but a contrast

05:39 between rule by secrecy which Jim Mars has written a very good book about and open source everything. We are the antidote to everything that's gone wrong in the last 50 years I love it, i think that's a great introduction It seems like a very efficient way to do things but you're right it does have to be kind of multifaceted all or nothing approach Or won't work and thats one of hardest thing to implement wouldn't say Well yes and no. One of the things that I've noticed these last few years, I've been mentored by people like Tom Atley who lives in a commune he wrote The Towel of Democracy and he's written several other books including Evolutionary Activism and a new book on public wisdom

06:22 In fact what we're doing is redefining prosperity back to the original natural condition. There's a wonderful book 1491 which points out that the average mayan male only had to work 60 days a year in order to comfortably support a family of five, And what has happened in the industrial era is we've essentially enclosed to the commons, we've criminalized private behavior in relation to the natural world and we have made it possible to concentrate wealth for the few at the expense of the many. When you really look at how humanity can interact with nature and what is a proper definition of prosperity

07:07 It turns out that not only is peace vastly more profitable for everybody but it's more prosperous to be open. Alvin told first brought this concept up in power shift he talked about how information shared acquires additional value with every sharing, That's not the attitude of governments and corporations. They want a stovepipe, they're living by a Germanic, Weberian cubbyhole hoarding mentality and what that really means is they're depriving everybody by trying to hoard stuff for profit The real profit is being a good steward of the earth and having a good life with minimal labor

07:51 Yeah, it sounds so great. It's a shame that we haven't had a chance to really make those kind of strides towards that kind of system Well, I would say that we did in fact prior to 1491 when Columbus brought disease and gunpowder to the Americas. He also brought a European mindset there's an excellent book called Voltaire's Bastards by John Salston Rowell There's another one by Lionel Tiger called The Manufacturer of Evil There's a third one by I think it's Peter Thiel called Stop Thief Essentially the West triumphed over the nature and the tribes by force of arms, not by force of thought. And one of the things that I really admire about an emergent literature is there's an excellent book called Health Of Nations Society & Law Beyond The State. What it points out is that most of the borders today that are being fought over are borders that were imposed at the point of a gun. They're artificial colonial borders

08:55 And as a result what the colonies did was they created this massive western industrial era that created great wealth for the few, but it essentially cut everybody off from subsistence living. It cut them off from the ability to get by without having to be a wage slave. It cut them off from their villages and their families. It cut them off from respect for nature True cost economics is one of my pet rocks these days. And the reality is people have no idea the larger price that's not only being paid today but will be paid by future generations, in fact I was just looking at a study on McDonald's hamburger

09:37 Actually cost two hundred and fifty dollars when you add up all of the water the fuels that toxins the child labor and health costs of obesity. If you allow super size me to take over your life, McDonald's is a failing corporation as it should be coca cola nestle should be failing corporations monsanto should have been put to death years ago, so once you want to start reconnecting to nature and you start reconnecting the common sense in your start reconnecting to the actual true cost of many of these offerings all of a sudden life gets much better and add no additional costs in fact you end up saving huge amounts of money.

10:19 Well said. Those are great points, there are just so many costs other than financial and we're just kind of bred to all we really think about is that financial cost and it's But as far as the open source idea, one area I wanted to ask you about where it would apply to the current news cycle is this whole debacle over this Sony hack in the movie The Interview. They're afraid to release it into theaters for the threat of an attack on the crowd but if you just released the movie open on the internet and allowed it to spread instead of having the tightly controlled distribution channel that the corporation wants upsetting duck targets then there wouldn't be much anyone could do to stop it, is there?

10:55 I completely agree with you and in fact, I completely agree with Obama for the first time in eight years. He has said that Sony has made a mistake and I agree with that. I believe that all voices must be heard and I think it's a serious mistake to try and repress information particularly if you think that the information is offensive or incorrect If it's offensive or incorrect, it should be put out there to be destroyed by the truth. Yeah well said and I know you do know a lot about hacking in computer technology Do you think we're getting the real story on this situation of the hack with Sony? I honestly don't know. I haven't paid attention to it but I will point out to you that all of the alarms that are being sounded today

11:44 are identical to the alarms that were sounded by Wynn Schwartal and myself, and several others when Wynn published his books Terminal Compromise and Information Warfare Chaos on the Electronic Superhighway. All of this stuff we warned about in 1988 through 1992 there were Air War College papers on the vulnerabilities of our financial communications and energy systems all of the information was out there And the US government very irresponsibly refused to listen. Corporations, very irresponsibly refuse to put their SCADA systems or supervisory control and administration systems they refused to put them off the internet in secure isolated form so everything that's happening today

12:33 is after ignoring 25 years of warning. So in my view, to hell with everybody that refused to listen. Yeah yeah it's gotta be frustrating too have been sounding the alarm for so long and just gotten no response Well you know it is frustrating In fact I've recently called for the firing of Jim Clapper and Mike Vickers and John Brennan For those who don't know Clapper was a director of national intelligence who was the undersecretary of defense for intelligence Vickers is the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and John Brennan, who was a fine case officer in his time as the director of CIA. They've all lost their moral compass. They have wasted $1.25 trillion in the 25 years since I published the ghostwritten paper for General Al Gray and then my own paper on The Six Things That Needed to be Done In Order To Make National Intelligence Useful

13:26 to decision-making not just for national security but for agriculture, water and so forth. We would not be dealing with fracking today if the National Intelligence Community of the United States of America were an honest competent national intelligence community This community is so dishonest at top they actually recommend fracking as a solution for our national energy shortfall in a report called Global Trends 2030 They recommend fracking, which causes earthquakes and contaminates aquifers. At the same time that Governor Cuomo in New York has just forbidden fracking for the best of reasons

14:05 Yeah, fracking is one of those cases where it's pretty easy to see through the lies there but there is just so many different areas of manipulation and propaganda and getting in the way of corporate profits. And it's so hazy to really get down to the truth that it's hard even imagine what an open information society could even do for us. It's like the ramifications would just be completely mind-boggling Well, you know it's funny because I remember this Crocodile Dundee movie where there was some discussion about a guy having a problem and Crocodile Dundee has some line about how hey this is no problem. You just tell everybody about it and the problem goes away In fact what open source does is it makes everybody part of the solution? I love the line that the Linux guys use put enough eyeballs on it No bug is invisible

14:58 I would say that 90% of our problems in the world today are caused by secrecy and corruption that is enabled by secrecy. Every problem that Wall Street has caused has been a problem caused by secrecy and corruption, by legalized crime. It's an utter outrage that Iceland was the only country with the balls and the brains To renounce the illegal debt to put its bankers in jail to punish it's politicians that sold out the public interest and today iceland has just paid off the international monetary fund years ahead of time and it's got a better economic rating than united states of america.

15:39 You're so right man, and that was another huge no-brainer where I really don't even think they did a good job of fooling average people. I think it was pretty obvious theft but there's just such a disconnect between the citizens and this rogue government that we really just don't get much of say in the matter Well, that's why I recently published the Electoral Reform Act of 2015. When when I ran briefly for president it was mostly to get all the good ideas on the table and to reach out to the other presidential candidates all of whom I found were not serious there wasn't a single presidential candidate among the small parties that was willing to commit to an electoral reform summit

16:19 Every single one of them was focused on me, me, me. Okay? Very selfish narrow interests I believe that we are paying the price for turning democracy over to the most corrupt legislature in modern history The US Congress doesn't even read the laws that it passes These are laws written by lobbyists It doesn't even read them The Patriot Act, for example. It passes laws written by lobbyists without reading them and our citizens let them get away with it so we have the democracy that we deserve." I mean that's true! I do think we have a responsibility to take back our government especially if its killing people overseas in our name on top of all the other reasons but you mentioned your presidential campaign and I did want to ask you about that because it had to be pretty insightful into the process

17:13 You know, they still have a lot of people fooling into thinking it's Republican vs. Democrat but in reality it is Republican and Democrat vs everyone else because there are multiple other parties that have real solid organizations and plenty of support but get boxed out and the Republicans and Democrats very much act united encircling those wagons and eliminating other voices from being heard I'm sure you experienced that to some degree didn't you? I'm really thrilled that you bring that up because although i am a very educated person with two graduate degrees in the naval war college behind me, i had to run for president in order to learn that there are eight accredited political parties in the united states and that basically means. The party has won five percent of the vote at some point time and therefore is considered a national party

18:00 party. Those parties – and I'll list them because I'm stunned that I did not know this and then I hope others will learn from this, those parties are the Constitution Party which is a Christian whitish kind of party which goes back to the roots of the founders, the Green Party, the Libertarian Party, the Natural Law Party which is more about the Reform Party for which I was a candidate for the nomination and the Socialist Party, which is also Maribund. There are also two really important excellent parties that are rising in the wings one of them is The Working Families Party that Bill de Blasio in New York represents and the other is The Justice Party that Rocky Anderson tried to raise up in the West with some limited success None of these parties have ballot access And this is where I part ways with Lawrence Lessig whom I admire very much for what he's done

18:50 With creative commons and many other of his works it doesn't matter if you take the money out of politics if you still don't have access to the ballot. So I have published today, and it's easy to find if you look up Electoral Reform Act of 2015. You'll find a graphic that lists eight very specific things that we need to do in order to restore integrity to the electoral process in the United States. And I like to say there is nothing wrong with America The Beautiful that cannot be fixed and fixed fairly quickly if we simply restore integrity to the electoral process and therefore to the government. Everything else falls into place.

19:29 I'm with you on that man and maybe we can talk about a couple of those principles i'm sure that. One of them would be not letting a private company being charged of our national voting machines well people does it very corrupt company and its very it's a very long, Unprofessional company, its machines are easily hackable. This president has boasted publicly about being able to deliver whatever vote you want I mean these people are the epitome of dishonesty and the fact that they're hired by governors is a reflection on the dishonesty of the governor's hiring them

20:06 Among the eight provisions for the Electoral Reform Act of 2015 are paper ballots counted on the spot, and publicly of course. No electronic machine should be allowed to count votes Yeah, I do agree with you that would be a system that's worked in the past and much better than what we have. But i don't see why we can just vote on the internet if it is secure enough for all of the other things we'd do on it. I would like to see a system like reddit where we could just all see the things our representatives would see and then we could just vote up or down. And im sure eventually find equilibrium point on a lot of issues well it's and and and it's not only voting up or down because there some there's something once is that can be accommodated for instance an instant runoff

20:52 One of the problems that third parties have, let's say that third parties can get access to the ballot which they certainly should. What that means is that the qualifications for gaining access to the ballot must be identical at the state and local levels instead of having skewed heavy requirements that are levied on small parties to keep them out And at the federal level, all nationally accredited parties should have their candidates on all ballots for federal office. That should be mandated. That's a law that has been introduced at the congressional level nine times—the last four times by Ron Paul Give him great credit on that. And the fact is, the two-party tyranny does not want to share power because they like being able to loot the purse for their 5% kickback but instant runoff is a way of addressing the concerns that people have because if they vote for third party candidate and that candidate loses then they might have thrown the vote to the worst of the lesser evils

21:50 So instant runoff allows you to vote for two or three candidates and if your candidate doesn't win then your vote shifts to your second choice, third choice and so forth. And that is a much fairer way of electing people than the system we have right now. Absolutely! That's a great idea I really like that Oh, well let me please just jump in and say none of these ideas are original to me. One of the things that I do is harvest good ideas from other people and when I ran for president for six weeks I did it impart to harvest all the best ideas and put them all up at a website called We The People Reform Coalition. The URL is bigbatusa.org and you'll remember Joe Trippi's Big Bat for Howard Dean so bigbatusa.org

22:36 And all of these ideas that I've pulled together, my gift is to pull together the best ideas from others. But these are all ideas that have been tried and tested by others and I've simply gone out and harvested them. That's very fair you're a living example of the open source principle. I wanted ask you little bit about Google because I heard you talk about them in the past and a lot people think of them as one of good guys but behind-the-scenes they really not so innocent are there? Well, first off Google was formed by at least one great crime. One mistake and one government secret intervention The great crime is that Google stole Yahoo's search engine

23:17 And that was the beginning of google. The great mistake with HP is killing autonomy and all those wonderfully good people then went to work for google, can the secret intervention with CIA funding google so those three things came together and in essence i regard google as nothing more than a light version of NSA Hmm, see that's interesting and I don't disagree with you but on the scale of corporations. I think most people find them to be one of the best and associate them with being their dog in the fight for free and open internet which of course they'd have their own motivations for it And i'm sure that perception is just the corporate spin and the hard-working PR team They have

23:58 Well it's also nonsense i mean i know larry prior personally were both members of the silicon valley hackers conference which is an elected body and, i like larry he's a wonderful engineer but he doesn't get it all about algorithms any dozen understand sense making any doesn't understand the public interest. And what he's done is he has fallen prey to the venture capitalists and the people that want to use Google as a steamroller rather than as liberation technology. Index is less than four percent of the digital web. And I personally think it's less than two percent and google by its own admission will give out search results that are what somebody else has paid for you to see rather than the best in class search results so at multiple levels i consider google dishonest and im really looking forward to open source google killer

24:54 And by the way duckduckgo is doing very very well against google. Interesting so yeah on the subject of what google filters out i think that might be a pretty shocking to some people but we do hear the terms deep web and dark net and some people say that same something third different, what can you tell us about this kind of mysterious under net. Well first off let me start with the innocence of it all Let me define the terms the shallow web is what google indexes and being yahoo and not yet being yahoo by do you know yahoo got a billion dollars as quick claim penalty from google but the damage was done yahoo was mortally wounded all but i do and whatever the russian the russian search engine is all of these people have potential but they're all

25:43 They're all not thinking clearly. But the shallow web is what a standard search engine will index, the deep web is legitimately available information that's on the web if you know where to look and then the dark web is information generally criminal that has been very deliberately hidden behind encryption and various forms of obscurity including steganography which is hiding information inside of a photo Now let me just draw an example a standard non-profit a standard activist organization will have two kinds of information on the web to have full text information. That's the stuff that easy to index and that's the low hanging fruit that google has,

26:26 They will also publish thousands and thousands of PDF documents that are nice, slick glossy documents with beautiful color copies and tables of contents. And they'll not only bury those documents without a persistent URL but those documents aren't properly indexed So the deep web consists of everything below the shallow web that is legitimately openly available but you have to go look for it and you have to hand harvest it. Now there are companies like Abe Letterman's Deep Web Technologies which do an absolutely phenomenal job of scraping the web,

27:04 No and they will go out for example i paid money in two thousand seven to scrape the top poverty sites on the planet, so we were able to get if i had a guess i'd say eighty percent of the information instead of four percent which is what google gets. We were able to get 80% of the useful information from all those webs because we went in and we basically copied every single thing they had that was visible, and then we indexed it all. And that gave us a superior index to what the web owners themselves had." Wow man! So it is definitely doable but why? But wow, that is a huge increase in information. Up to 80%. Man so another area I really wanted to ask you about was copyrights and patents in an open society because this is what critics tend to bring up but let me also say that the security laws and regulations like that isn't illusion anyway because it's pretty much common knowledge that Microsoft Facebook Apple

28:02 And as you just pointed out now, Google, as well I'm sure many others at the top. These companies all have theft in their origins so maybe critics should go back and rethink the notion that our ideas are even safe now? That's a good point. I mean, there is a viable justification for patents and trademarks and my personal rule is use it or lose it. One of the problems we have in the United States is that really excellent technologies for low cost efficient energy indestructible paints

28:39 all kinds of things that would have saved trillions of dollars over the last 50 years. These have been patented and locked up, in some cases their inventors had been murdered in order to protect legacy systems and one other problems we have is concentrated wealth they use this secrecy to conceal great crimes I personally think that it's insane to have central banking and it's insane to have banks that are allowed to create money out of nothing, and then charge interest they don't deserve in the ruin economies just because they can so this whole open this thing is in fact a way of healing society and healing economy and i will also point out

29:21 the proprietary technologies let's take oracle for example i bm microsoft proprietary technology is an affordable they are not interoperable and they do not scale we are retarded. In the analysis arena which is to say the analytics scrutiny of all forms of information in order to arrive at decision support smart conclusions we are retarded Because microsoft and oracle and ibm have never cared about making sense they only care about selling software licensing fees and maintenance fees and training fees, end moving bits and bytes they've never cared about actually making sense of anything.

30:04 Mm-hmm. You're right on, man! Everything you say I'm in such agreement with. I mean you make a great point too about being murdered for copyrights that was one of the prevailing theories about the Malaysian flight is that it was hit on some patent holders somewhere along the line I honestly don't know but i do believe that the Malaysian flight was hijacked electronically and if it did not land at Diego Garcia, I think you crashed somewhere on the way. It's so tough to know if we had an open society wouldn't be such a mystery Well let me give a lot of credit to the tail watchers because the CIA rendition flights were discovered by people watching tail numbers

30:41 Those CIA rendition flights would never have been discovered if we hadn't had cognitive surplus out there looking at tail numbers. And one of the things that I think is starting to happen is that governments and police and others are starting to be accountable in a way that they've never had to deal with before. We now have citizens armed with handheld devices that take photos We now have internet capabilities, many of which cannot be shut down. I'm the author of The Autonomous Internet Roadmap, which is at the Peer2Peer Foundation. Can i believe the day is coming just published a new piece on the coming data revolution i believe the day's coming when we will have it distributed internet in which all of that data is held on our individual handheld devices and we put the cloud, intermediate servers out of business wow that seems. Kinda tough to visualize well let me let me point you sharknet in germany they're building interesting what else about sharknet little bit

31:43 No i can't tell you about sharknet but I want you to go look it up. Okay okay well in the book you do talk about the evolution of web 2.0 a little bit and then you'd like to see this jump to the web 4.0 world brain is that what we're talking about here? Well there's multiple aspects of creating a proper world brain, one of them is to have an autonomous internet that cannot be censored or shut down That for me is the first priority. The second is to put all education on the internet and combine that with call centers and harnessing the diaspora, Dr Patrick Muir in humanitarian technologies and crisis mappers have done some incredible things

32:28 I'm infuriated every time i see a Washington-based think tank such as the US Institute of Peace or the New America Foundation claim to have reinvented the wheel when it's actually been going for the last ten years under Dr. Meir There are lot of people in Washington willing to take credit for stuff they didn't invent and they're using it simply to gain funding that will feather their salaries rather than actually help people on Philippines which is what Meir does So step one is an autonomous internet that cannot be censored. Step two is the ability of everyone to learn anything they need to learn through the internet or through a cell phone call. Step three, is the creation of a global standard for identifying true costs. One of the things we need to do is use the internet to move markets

33:20 and by that i mean i have designed this little handheld app that shows you red yellow and green circles for any given product based on its barcode, can it tell you how much virtual water is in there how much fuel how many toxins how much child labor whether the company making it as guilty of tax avoidance and so forth so instant just by looking at the barcode you can sell evil incarnate Now the problem is any full can design an app on a cell phone that shows nice little venture capitalists, the hard part is actually creating the database and documenting the true cost. Every product and service i mean for example beef there's some wonderful films of secret life with beef and so forth it takes five thousand gallons of water to put a pound of beef on the table take

34:07 Takes twenty gallons of water to put a pound of tomatoes on the table most people don't know that most people have no idea what the true cost is anything your smartphone puts ten chinese people into a leukemia ward. Because it's built using a class a carcinogenic benzene drink i forget benzene which is only legal in china, Wow yeah i know about the foxconn that's on the buildings of some of these factories but i had not heard that another using a borderline slave labor to mine out these minerals themselves but it's all hidden behind the veil secrecy and meanwhile apple gets a pass for being some great capitalist benchmark.

34:50 And that is just a sign of how ignorant we have become. Our public education system has not kept up with reality I am deeply troubled by the mediocrity of our public education system and i'm deeply troubled by the fact that the Koch brothers are going around buying university departments in order to instill libertarian economics which is a form of fascism, corporate ownership and control I'm deeply concerned by the Koch brothers buying up secondary school history books and trying to eradicate civil disobedience from all history books across the United States of America.

35:30 I mean this kind of insanity is in my own mind grounds for revolution but apparently nobody's noticing. Yeah that's true it is sad sometimes wonder how far people really have to be pushed for something to happen, I don't know the answer to that, but i will tell you that there's a difference between preconditions of revolution and precipitants of revolution. And I have in fact published if your listeners will go to graphic preconditions of revolution they will find that I have published a chart all over the preconditions of revolution and

36:12 I have colored in red the preconditions of revolution that exist in the United States of America. And, the three most important are concentration of wealth, loss of faith in the government and unemployed people with college degrees." Well you would think we were there then because check-check and check! Yeah really But yes, I did see that piece and I was very interested in that because we talk about the state of revolution all the time. And there are some people who might argue that if you look at the police brutality protests going on all over and the big one in New York specifically some might say that we are in the middle of it

36:52 No, we're not. That's all that I mean look at Occupy. Occupy was a complete failure right? It had one stunning moment during which it could have demanded the electoral reform act of 2012 We could have elected Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich in a coalition cabinet but Ron Paul essentially...I don't want to use the word sold out But he has been a member of the controlled opposition. He has kept the Libertarian party quiet and out of the way, and I don't know what's going to happen with Ron Paul and Rand Paul but I do believe that the Libertarian party needs to look deeply into its soul and break completely with the Republican Party

37:34 Amen, man. Yes before we can even figure out what works we have to all agree that these two parties don't and they both need to be completely abandoned And I look back on it now It's hard to believe I even voted for Obama originally but i was so into the spirit of a hip young dude getting the old boys out and hope and change then there was this huge disappointment Of course I got really hopeful for Occupy as it was the first time there had ever been widespread protests in my lifetime and then that faded away. It's easy to become cynical now and feel a bit hopeless these days, you know? Well let me give you a success story when the governor of New York outlawed fracking everybody from The New York Times to Mother Jones completely missed the real story

38:21 The real story is that one single couple, both of them lawyers went village by village across New York State educating them on fracking and getting them to pass a local ordinance against fracking. And this drove the industry mad. They finally took it to the appeals court of New York and God bless the appeals court, they upheld the sanctity of the village ordinances and that is what led Cuomo to forbid fracking not any great judgment on his part So, Mother Jones and New York Times missed it completely. The other half of the story that they missed is that the director of national intelligence in a document published by the National Intelligence Council called Global Trends 2030 explicitly says in black and white that fracking as part of the energy solution for the future United States of America if I were president I would fire him immediately for being stupid on the job

39:19 Hear, hear. And yeah that is a pretty positive example of small victory against these guys but they are so persistent and as terrible as fracking is I'm kind of curious about energy as a whole and what really could be accomplished with full open source approach Can you give us any more insight into how different it really could be? Well, let me I think we're very close to free energy. Uh... i think we're extremely close and it may happen first in Latin America. There are three parts of energy the first is creating the energy, the second is storing the energy and third is reducing the amount of energy needed so in energy creation solar is now well beyond fossil fuels in terms of price point return on investment

40:07 And one of the things most people don't realize is that fossil fuels persist in part because our corrupt Congress is subsidizing the fossil fuel industry. The Keystone Project is an atrocity against humanity, it should absolutely not be allowed. The Canadian government's plans to flush tar sands into Alberta and try to ship them out across Quebec are atrocities And I certainly hope that Quebec absolutely refuses to collaborate with that because it's a crime against humanity. So renewable energy is there, solar energy wind energy geothermal energy is all there and if we were to eliminate the subsidies that we now give the fossil fuel industry to include tax breaks and overlooking their heinous tax avoidance then fossil fuels would be dead within 10 years The second part is battery storage

40:59 And one of the challenges that we faced over many years is that, we lose 50% of the energy from its centralized point-of-production whether it's a hydroelectric dam or an oil field or whatever. We lose 50% of the energy. Well energy batteries now are making huge leaps in efficiency Can i believe that we're getting to the point now where were going to be able to store and retain energy, three five times more efficiently than we have in the past so that's the second major revolution it's happening. The third major revolution is in terms of displacing uses of energy that were in the past essential and the big revolution that's happening there isn't a cooling arena

41:43 There are now a couple of innovations including one using infrared lighting and the other one i can't remember but they essentially eliminate the need for geothermal cooling or four you know traditional energy as a coolant day to create cooling without energy if you will. So I'm absolutely confident that we're moving very quickly toward free energy. And once you get free energy, among the many things that allows you to do is desalinate saltwater and decontaminate inland water And that changes everything. Yeah, water is another area where there's a ridiculous battle going on and Nestle CEO said water should be completely privatized rather than thought of as a human right or just part of the earth which sounds so slimy and creepy to even say but we gotta be careful because they can easily get their way

42:39 Well, the Nestle CEO is an idiot and he's a corrupt idiot. In fact water is a human right and it's part of nature. And again I would send people to my book whenever I mention a book, I've written a summary review on Amazon. I'm the number one Amazon reviewer for nonfiction. I read 98 categories. Amazon's trying to push the old guys out so a lot of times you have to go back and look for my review in an earlier edition But I've reviewed a book called Stop Thief and it talks about how we have essentially criminalized what used to be natural human rights in relation to nature. I personally think that Nestle and Coca-Cola should not be allowed to pull any more clean water out of the earth, I think they should be required to build their own water desalination plants.

43:33 And going back to the energy thing, the energy conversation is fascinating and I love hearing about the advancements. The tech might be there but how do we really get past the corporate gatekeepers? A lot of people don't even know what's possible Well, that's true. And again I come back to electoral reform. I mean I've had some interesting conversations in the last few weeks including a Green Party group that asked me to run for their nomination in 2016 and the point that I made to people everyone wants to fight fracking or they want to get the truth on 9-11 or whatever and what I'm telling people is none of these battles are winnable The only battle that is winnable

44:15 And the only battle that counts is the battle for electoral reform. We can, on the 1st of March we could have an electoral reform summit with Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Jesse Ventura, Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney, Rocky Anderson, Gary Johnson, Jill Stein myself and a few others. We could issue a demand a statement of demand to Congress, we could then occupy the front lawns in the home offices of every governor senator and representative. And we could tell them very candidly you have 30 days in which to pass the electoral reform act of 2015 and if they don't

44:59 We put them all out of office in twenty sixteen i'm in. This doable look this is doable people really seriously underestimate the power of people that is true and you know a bit by design we have we're just kind of like to believe we don't have any power, That's true and in fact the whole system is designed to entertain you into apathy. And it's a truly sad thing now there is i think some good news on the one hand i think the average american as much smarter

45:35 and much more attentive to the possibilities than people realize. And there's a wonderful book by that title, The Average American which I strongly recommend. And at the same time there is a book on cultural creatives by Paul Ray and Sherry Ruth Anderson. They're a couple And their original estimate was that there were 50 million people in the United States that were actually conscious. I think the number is closer to 100 million now imagine a hundred million people each giving $10 a year for a freedom fund That's $1 billion. I absolutely guarantee you that if i had influence over one billion dollars and I had an electoral reform summit on the first of March, I would clean this government up by 2016

46:23 Yeah, wow it doesn't take much all those micro transactions I mean that's how we get by here. Well the microtransactions you're actually leading into my tax reform plan which is something i've adopted from edward phagey in chicago and that's the automated payment transaction tax which is budget its electoral reform item number seven We need to end all taxes. We need to end all income taxes in particular The current revenue system is a criminal enterprise The reason the tax code is so complicated is because that's how congressman create toll gates. That's how congressmen blackmail their business constituencies into donating to their political action campaigns, they say oh well we're going to create this tax but if you want an exemption you know what you need to do

47:14 The automated payment transaction tax is an utterly brilliant idea that applies to every transaction, including all of the transactions that are not taxed now. For example, every currency and stock transaction on Wall Street would be taxed and it would be a .000006 kind of tax. Okay? So what that does is it explodes the revenue pie, but there's an other side benefit which is the APT tax rate is set by the public which means that we can set a rate that cuts the government in half and we can also set a rate that makes wars unaffordable unless we approve a tax increase. Hmm

47:58 Real control over our own government. What a novel idea! Well, there's a lot of good ideas and that is why I ran for president in 2012. If people come together and decide I could be useful in 2016 then I will. Of course I'm not Jim Webb but I am certainly better than Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush. And I would like to have this voice – not necessarily my voice but this coalition voice – I would like to see the leaders of the small parties get their act together and run as a team rather than isolation from one another And I love that approach, that you are really just an embodiment of something larger. And that's something our government is supposed to be doing! It clearly says representatives and you're supposed to represent your community it's just we can't fit everybody into the building but yet...that idea is gone

48:48 Well, let's see but it's even worse. It's it's worse than that I mean there are studies now that clearly document the congressmen are voting for legislation written by lobbyists if they haven't even read And it's also clearly documented the congressman are not They're not just not reading they're not even counting the emails that come from their constituents Congress takes an election as a right to loot and congressmen are spending 80% of their time raising money in order to be permanently elected. And gerrymandering, which is also addressed by the Electoral Reform Act of 2015, gerrymandering is a form of crime against the public it's a form of disenfranchising citizens most people don't realize that the US government is owned by 42 specific billionaires who provide the bulk of the campaign funding

49:41 And they don't realize that 30% of the voting public is the actual active group that votes in a mock election to re-elect people who are essentially criminals. Right, it's just a tangled web of corruption and voting reform. I love those ideas It's definitely a major fundamental Another one is the economic system in the monetary supply And i heard you mention open money and you wrote about that a bit in the book Give us a little bit on that can you explain that to people what that looks like? Well, I would rather have them look up open money because this book the Open Source Everything Manifesto is a very broad brush tour of the horizon. It's not intended to provide detailed answers on everything and there are other people far wiser than me that have created open money and Bitcoin and other things. The bottom line here is that open money ends the corrupt privileges of the banks that have been bought from corrupt legislators

50:42 For me open money means that there is no reserve, there are no privileges. There is no escaping the consequences of making a mistake and beyond that I would just say please look up open money and let the originators have opened money speak for themselves. That's fair and I was gonna ask you about Bitcoin because I was curious if you consider that to be at the embodiment of this or does it kind of fall short as well? Well, I don't completely understand Bitcoin. I've never been one for encryption. I live my life as an open book NSA. Oh by the way the good news about NSA is it only processes 1% of what it collects

51:20 The bad news is that if you're ever elected senator, it will make sure you know they have every email and every porno photo you ever looked at in their database. So NSA is a blackmail authority and I actually think highly of Admiral Rogers. I think he has the potential to restore integrity at NSA which was lost under Mike Hayden and Keith Alexander both of whom I know personally and both of whom might consider impeachable for treason Yeah another question on the subject of the NSA I had for you was about the backdoors into basically every program that's available every operating system available these companies build that right in don't they. Well,

52:00 I was one of the people who sounded the alarm on NSA failing to execute its presidentially mandated mission in 1994. It was given the mission of helping make American communications and computing secure against foreign adversaries and against industrial espionage, And at the time Israel, Germany and France were the greatest spies on US technology. Not Japan and China as so many people think. NSA not only refused to do that but NSA became intellectually and morally lazy and senator born wrote the forward to my first book on intelligence spies in secrecy in an open world than that book a publicly called for, can you say to be required to do its job order have that job split out now. I have to say that all of these back doors in us communications and computing services and products are not nsa's fault

53:00 They are the fault of the ceos of ibm and dell microsoft and other hp they are default to ceo's who violated their fiduciary duties to their stockholders. And approved back doors, can i speak overseas every once in a while just back from ecuador and i will tell you what i told people in ecuador if u buy american communications or computing services your products your more on Now i would also say that the same is true of chinese french israeli and german products and services so what im telling people as they need to build their own trusted open source information technology industry.

53:45 All proprietary technology in my view is not only untrustworthy, it hasn't been properly documented. It should be put in the scrap heap we need a fresh start. Oh I would love that and you make it sound so possible! It's very inspiring but there are so many people out there that are afraid of radical change and I just don't get that because what about this is worth preserving? Almost anything has got to be an improvement I agree with that and particularly when you look at all of the myths and malpractice associated with big data. At Phi Beta Iota there are a couple of trending terms, one is analytics another one is big data most big data is garbage and people don't realize what big really means if you have a persistent surveillance device thats creating 1 terabyte of data every single day

54:35 You had three hundred and sixty five days of terabyte data you end up with a petabyte now you try and send the petabyte across washington dc it will take you three years how would existing channels. This is kind of reminds me of the situation in South Africa where they used a carrier pigeon racing against the best broadband that South Africa had and moving some information from one point to another. The carrier pigeon won! I really want to stress this, do not underestimate the ignorance of agency heads in the US government the

55:24 about media and torrenting and internet piracy because obviously the major corporations have tried to frame it as stealing but if I copy it did I really take anything from you? And philosophically, you know It's more about access in abundance that rather than corporate profits But it's gonna get even fuzzier when 3D printing becomes more of a thing. Wouldn't you say? Well, there's actually two aspects to this. I just finished uploading most of my books and articles and chapters to academia.edu. Academia.edu is a new service that essentially allows professionals to self-publish and make available to other academics their structured views

56:12 Now i have learned that there is huge value in the previous structuring of information by editors by corporations. There was a time when it was very important to have peer review journals and two have structured paginated formatted fact checked edited works, can i believe they will always be a place for that as a service Where it went wrong was in essentially trying to lock that knowledge up and just the other day i was helping my son with a paper, can i wanted to go get a reference form and they were trying to sell me that reference for thirty dollars ten page paper for thirty dollars. That's criminal so one of the problems we have again this is why im so upset with larry page at google

57:03 One of the problems that we have is it the system we have today is not structured to allow for sense making and fact checking in fact steven e arnold one of the greatest it analyst i've ever met, has pointed out that google can't detect false information. The systems that we have today just treat everything at face value and they're not useful at getting to the cream of the crop. They're not useful in getting – who are the most published things? Now Twitter and Facebook each have their own kind of potential but they've also missed major opportunities. I would love to be a strategic advisor to Twitter. I could turn Twitter into the world brain overnight but not on its present course.

57:49 So I think that we need to get to where all information is free but we also need to get to where we pay in fractions of a penny. for service value added for example i have learned the hard way that my work absolutely desperately needs an editor and one of the reasons that my most recent book is so good, is because my editor kathy green at north atlantic books cut it in half and reduce every word by one syllable that takes a heroic mind. Wow, yeah that takes patience for sure. And I like the idea of large numbers of people paying small amounts for useful services and that's why i like Bitcoin because the community really seems to value that aspect and I do see it as the future! My whole life has been thrown into that arena where now have my trust in listeners rather than some corporation waving a check at me that barely provides living wage but so many these ideas that we're talking about microtransactions free energy open money opening up some patents and technologies

58:54 It all seems well overdue but a lot of it also seems to be in opposition to the capitalistic principles that we run on now. Obviously making these changes would have huge effects on who makes money and off of what, which I'm fine with but do you see capitalism and a true open source society coexisting or is our economic model going to have to do a lot of changing too? Well first off i no longer use the word capitalism Because I think that anything that over emphasizes the financial aspect is inherently corrupt. And I'll point people to my summary of two wonderful books, one by John Bogle who's a former venture capitalist and banker with a soul. He has written a book on the soul of capitalism and William Greider who is a democratic progressive author whose written books on the Federal Reserve secrets at the temple and other books he has written a book on this the soul of capitalism. The problem here is that labor in land are the 2 real

59:54 Value added elements of progress not money money is artificial money is an artificial construct that has been used by governments and banks in corporations to essentially screw everybody else. So i have seen a number of economic models and in fact let's take open source software as example, I believe open source software is a calling card it's basically a proof that you can do something really cool and creative and then you get hired to essentially build on it and connected other things in create new things

1:00:32 There are a number of revenue models that are coming out now for non-profits and I'm not a sophisticated person in this area but i would urge people to look up non profit revenue models. And what they will find is that there are many, many ways of making enough money to pay people good salary and buy the things you need in order to do the job that you want to do and most of them don't require that you screw everybody else as part of the deal Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're right there are a lot of fresh ideas in that area and talking about labor being one of the major resources or the only resource when we think about money There are a lot of people out there talking about this time banking movement Which is essentially that kind of thing? You know trading time instead of money or objects

1:01:19 I like time banking in part because it respects the dignity of every human being. Yeah, that's a great point and it definitely does and in a finite life everybody's time should be valuable That's exactly right So I love this stuff man and i'm very much in favor of radical changes and optimization. It's really exciting to learn about, and sometimes think about how far it could really be taken And now that the internet has surpassed the efficiency of libraries and the amount of information in them we don't even have to leave the house but we have these community buildings in every town and we could roll out 3D printing studios pretty easy across the nation

1:01:58 Hold on there, let's not go too far. Is that too far? Did I get crazy? No first off a lot of my sons friends are back from college and the smarter ones are leaving their cell phones in their rooms and going to the library The library is a temple for focused intellectual activity and i absolutely disagree with you on anything that would threaten any library if anything we need more like bear bear paul but let me expand on this post rossman one of the greatest minds in our generation. is written a number of books and what was called information payoff one of the things he explored in information pay off with the i brain hand interaction reading a book, there is a biological process that takes place when you're reading a book that does not happen on screens and in fact one of the things we found military intelligence computers make you stupid.

1:02:56 any cause you to lose situational awareness because back in the day when you had acetate over maps and your constantly plotting stuff on the map it was all up on a big board where everybody could see it, you can kind of feel that just talked what was going on you have the feeling in the fingertips. These these computer i'ma just written a forward for book that's coming out soon which essentially blasts with the exception of silo breaker and recorded future palantir, i2 all of these so-called analytic toolkits are crap. they don't actually do the job and in fact when you feed them data they eat that data and never see it again. So I think we're overstating the value of digital world at this moment in time, were understated the value of library or also severely understanding the value human conversations a mutual discovery all in my mind

1:03:56 Published articles and chapters in books are merely a means for identifying human beings that i want to talk to. And most of the knowledge is going to be generated in conversations creating choices what jim ruff, you're author societies breakthrough with jim ruff calls deliberative dialogue all that's where the knowledge is to be created in in this situation Fair yet well said i don't mean disrespect learning but the larger point of a student is maybe we should open a wing in these buildings for public 3D printing if the gatekeepers whatever allow it because that could create such abundance and open up so many doors for people who are living in a lot of dead there reality is that starbucks's gonna have three d printing you don't need to know library, you can go into a starbucks and you can order whatever it is you want created while you have your coffee.

1:04:49 Really i haven't heard they were making any strides in 3d printing they are i don't know but if they aren't they should be paying attention right right. Alright, and obviously a large part of this is just about creating efficient systems all around. And when you look at the US government obviously it's grossly over-inflated and inefficient and you've looked at this in great detail How much of the national budget would you say is waste? Really how bad is it? That's a lovely question In fact I haven't been asked that question before and I would love to see this answer recorded and held for posterity Perfect First off

1:05:24 One third of the US government has borrowed money, which is unconstitutional. The US government should not be borrowing money it should be printing money on the good faith and credit of the US public treasury and lands so that borrowed money is not only unconstitutional It should be grounds for impeachment of everybody that is engaged in approving that borrowed money Now as to waste, there have been a number of studies over the years that essentially boiled down to 50% waste. Whether it's agriculture from the farm to the factory to the supermarket to the family table to the trash bin, fifty percent energy from the original point of creation to the end user roughly fifty percent

1:06:12 In the Department of Defense, which is the single largest and most wasteful element to the US government. And it's also the single largest most wasteful element of discretionary spending in the U.S. government. Waste has been documented as 45% in weapons acquisition and 75% in Afghanistan. That's from the most recent Inspector General's report I feel very, very comfortable documenting – I mean saying that waste has been documented across every functional area including diplomacy and including interior at roughly 50 percent. Now if you eliminated the borrowing of the US government which is something that the two-party tyranny agreed to do in order to basically pay off people, that pays for individual welfare for the democrats and corporate welfare for the republicans.

1:07:01 If you eliminated that, you're down to a $2 billion budget. Now if you assume that our three billion dollar budget which is what the US government's budget is each year, 3 billion a year, if you assume it's 50% waste that takes you down to 1.5 billion dollars which means you don't actually have to borrow a billion dollars a year i mean a trillion dollars here and you say five hundred billion dollars a year wow so if you get to it and this is why i want the president to create open source agency in open source agency has been approved by the office of management budget twice now,

1:07:38 The first time in the year 2000 by Sean O'Keefe, then Deputy Director of OMB. The second time by Kathleen Peroff who was the Associate Deputy Director for National Security in a meeting with Joe Markowitz and myself Joe is the former head of the community open source program office if the president were to create an open source agency that would do two things, the first is for three billion dollars a year it would immediately demonstrate that the secret world is a naked impotent emperor. that should absolutely have its budget cut in half over the next five to six years. Most of those savings would be against technical programs that don't deliver the return on investment such as SAIC's Trailblazer for NSA. We would protect jobs, the people district by district. That's something I learned watching Senator Warner in 1992. You have to protect the jobs

1:08:32 But where the savings are to be found is in all of the corporate overhead and all of the technical programs that don't actually deliver anything, except profits to the corporation. An open source agency would help the president identify and eliminate 30 to 40 percent waste across every government agency starting with defense, and of course among intelligence. The second thing that an open source agency would do is promulgate what OMB calls common solutions We need to move the entire local, state and national government structure to open source everything. Open data, open cloud, open data, open hardware, open software, open spectrum and we need to do that over the next five to six years

1:09:18 It's definitely a worthy goal. I would love to see that happen, but it is such an uphill battle." Man this has been a great show man! I really appreciate so many great ideas and it is so important to get the information out there to people so they know what they're missing because they don't even have anything to compare this system too and by showing the contrast we just show how off-the-mark we really are That's true and I mean, as we go to wrap up. I would repeat that the primary non-profit website is earth-intelligence.org and that's where we'll have the Earth dashboard in about a week or two. The primary blog is phi beta iota dot net

1:10:03 My personal webpage, which is easy to remember and is a pathway to all the others, is robertdavidsteele.com And last but not least I will mention that I would love to be hired by the public to really press forward on electoral reform and the political ideas that I pull together from other people are at bigbatusa.org Perfect. Well, that was the last thing I was going to say is give you an opportunity to wrap up some of those links so we've done that but it's been fascinating man! I'm really excited about getting this out and I think the audience is just gonna love it because this is right up my alley and there's not a whole lot of people or at least in this wheelhouse where we talk about the solutions. We hear a lot about the negatives, a lot about what's wrong but its the new ideas that really excite me so I know I'd vote for ya' to put those into practice

1:10:54 Well, I appreciate that and then I will shamelessly admit that I have no salary, no pension and no savings. So anybody who wants to donate to Earth Intelligence Network it's a 501c3 you get a receipt in the IRS is cool with it we've received $7000 dollars in donations this year and I'd be very very glad they have some end of your donations to pay my next staples bill Awesome Well, hopefully we can do that for you. Very cool Rob I think you are right on the money i'm a total open sourcer and uh... I couldn't agree more with that motto of yours the truth at any cost lowers all costs. I think thats right on the money so thanks again and keep doing what you do alright man? Well thank you Greg and I congratulate you on a really excellent interview great questions Thank You! Thank you im not perfect but I do what I can Alright sir bye bye See ya later thank you

1:11:45 And boom goes the dynamite, people. I hope you all liked that show as much as I did! Lots of practical information that is easier to digest for some friends and family who might not be accepting of deep dark rabbit hole stuff... although in the plush show we got heavy with Robert's assessment of Sandy Hook and Boston bombings as well as FEMA camps and train cars with shackles in them. So don't think we ignored the conspiratorial altogether, but it's really the innovation and ideas for a better world that excite me about this show. And maybe now some of us can have some practical ammunition for the political battles of ignorance that we might find ourselves stuck in during the holidays?

1:12:21 In other news, I also got a rare opportunity to try the Lucid Light device that we've heard about a few times largely from Anthony Peake many moons ago. But you can actually watch the video of that experience on my Facebook if you want to be friends with me there feel free if seeing the activation in my third eye interests you and other than that I would just encourage everyone to make the absolute best of the holidays lately I've been talking so much about trying to be better And I think it's one of the most important things. Don't just be some guy who sits miserably around with a bunch of extended family you don't vibe with, get in there and help the host with dinner or spend a little time writing a deep meaningful card rather than the same old generic stuff Show up with flowers for your grandma

1:13:03 Help somebody do the dishes at the end of the holiday meal. There's just not enough people rising to the various plethora of occasions out there on both the small everyday scale and in a larger level of humanity, and instead of talking about how badly we need to say seal the borders or how protesters are wasting their time turn the conversation into how we need to foster opportunity on the other side of the fence or how people with concerns should be addressed not suppressed regardless what they are or who they are We should want a fair, just and happy life for everyone not just ourselves. And that's the big takeaway from todays show with Robert It is about elevating those below us not isolating ourselves with the idea that immigrants and the poor are going to be clawing at our door There are better ways and Robert has convinced me there is a lot of untapped potential in the 6 billion poor rather than just a lot of liability as we're told

1:13:54 I hope you agree, and if we're gonna throw stones that we're throwing them up the pyramid not down. So enjoy yourselves out there! I'm taking off expect a very special end of the year extra for plus members in the next couple of days And I'll talk to you then so take care everybody Life is not a sparking space an episode of will & grace controversial yet mundane Debra's messing with your brain Even Scientologists know there's more to all of this Search the ruins for trapped doors Wonder what you're put here for Simple as a hint of gas Climbing nostrils as you pass Making Harvard graduates feel childish when they laugh at it Climb the rungs to Kingdom Come Sour Patches to Acid Tongue Are you opposed to having fun? You clench the world between your buns

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