Thursday, 4 May 2017

Isaac Weishaupt | Star Wars, Occult Themes, & Disney

A deep dive into the esoteric subtext of George Lucas and Walt Disney reveals a calculated effort to reshape human consciousness through cinematic ritual.

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About this episode

Isaac Weishaupt joins the program to detail the occult architecture of the Star Wars franchise, linking George Lucas to the 1969 Altamont Music Festival and the Manson Family. The analysis reveals how the concept of the Force mirrors the Vril energy field studied by Nazi secret societies like the Thule Society and medium Maria Orsik. Weishaupt argues that these cinematic narratives serve as a delivery system for Luciferian doctrine and the reconciliation of opposites, moving audiences toward a New Age spiritual evolution.

Beyond the galaxy far, far away, the investigation extends to Walt Disney and his ties to the Order of DeMolay and Rosicrucianism. Specific claims connect the 2017 Beauty and the Beast remake to Aleister Crowley’s demonic archetypes, while the 1946 Babylon Workings by Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard are cited as the catalyst for modern UFO phenomena. The discussion further examines Donald Marshall’s testimony on underground cloning centers, the transhumanist goals of consciousness transfer, and the systemic normalization of taboos within the political class to eliminate the threat of blackmail.

Technical anomalies haunt the recording as Skype audio is mysteriously replaced by music during key segments on the Illuminati agenda. Weishaupt offers listeners his book, The Star Wars Conspiracy, while the host shares a harrowing account of a family member’s experience with Navy trials and institutional abuse. The episode concludes with a critique of corporate psychopathy, citing Bayer’s contaminated blood scandal and Apple’s labor practices as the true dark magic of the modern era.


CHAPTER 01 / 20 Discussion

Hollywood Sorcery, Media Manipulation, and the Star Wars Conspiracy

The entertainment industry utilizes film as a medium for mass manipulation and the seeding of specific cultural ideas. Isaac Weishaupt joins the program to discuss his book, The Star Wars Conspiracy, which examines occult and Illuminati symbolism within the franchise. The analysis explores how major media properties like Disney and Westworld project hidden subtexts to influence public consciousness.

hollywood· star wars· disney· occult· illuminati· manipulation· media

00:05 Puppetmasters almost surely have a clearly maybe something there and until you've thoroughly tested every last course just did you know the less you really do? That's true, Dr. Seuss! Without THC, clean to us just don't Without THC The Higher Side Jack show would company

00:43 Allllright, Hiresight Chatters. For better or worse I think it's safe to say that many of us grew up on much of what Hollywood was putting down but now that we're older many of us have started to realize that maybe there is something deeper going on than just flashing lights and moving pictures It seems the sorcerers of the silver screen knew all too well that the entertainment medium they were conjuring up do have major influence on those who absorb them And never once to let an opportunity for manipulation go to waste, they've used that 8mm magic to seed thoughts and ideas that many times changed the course of history. We've seen these tools used to drum up support for unjust wars, promote fluff pieces about our philanthropic overlords... ...and how could they have ever eliminated hemp in marijuana without that classic Reaper madness?

01:26 So with a direct line into the minds of the masses, we've seen culture take many of its cues over the years from a small collection of influencers in the Southern California coast. Well certain franchises and companies who hit all the right notes created sagas that have resonated for generations and that's a lot of power! It's worth looking into what those messages might be and how much impact they've had from Star Wars & Disney to Westworld and award shows today we're going to unpack the themes and ideas projected to the people, and see if some secret subtext at the core speaks Magic Behind the Mic, which looks at the manipulative music industry and was the focus of our last show. And he's been very busy dissecting even more media in the meantime releasing several videos and books on these various subjects along the way. Now on this sacred holiday of May 4th we talk about his most recent mind blower The Star Wars Conspiracy hidden a cult and Illuminati symbolism of aliens in the New Age

CHAPTER 02 / 20 Discussion

Star Wars Occult Themes, Duality, and Luciferianism

Star Wars contains deep occult themes centered on the concept of duality and balancing the Force. While many viewers grow up with these films as beloved entertainment, a closer inspection reveals underlying Luciferian and New Age ideologies. These belief systems often conflict with traditional worldviews by presenting a specific path of spiritual evolution through media.

star wars· occult· duality· luciferianism· new age· the force

02:35 Isaac my good man. Welcome back to the higher side and may the fourth be with you Greg what's up, man? I'm super Super excited to be on here like you said The symbolism the message is hidden in media and entertainment They make more sense The more you read the literature of the occult and once you start piecing things together You find out Beloved tales such as Star Wars actually have many occult themes when we look at the duality aspects and what they mean by balancing the force. Absolutely man, and I really do like these general breakdowns of movies and music And you do a great job with them mainly because i have absorbed so much of this stuff over the years but A book about star wars and the ideas behind it is definitely right up my alley It's one of

03:23 Biggest franchises on the planet now owned by Disney, one of the biggest Hollywood companies on the planet. But let's start at the beginning. What was it that really got you to look at Star Wars so deeply from this hidden agenda kind of perspective? Well, the way it started out... Like most of my research projects they start out fairly short. It might be something I noticed that catches my eye in one of the films and I started writing about Star Wars primarily because I watched episode 7 and When I started digging into it, the article got longer and longer and eventually became too lengthy to put on the website so I

04:01 Start making an outline of various ideas that we see in star wars that suggest maybe there is an underlying theme to be considered here. Much like we see from what you said in the intro they were talking about westworld a lot of these themes are luciferian or nasty or some kind of blend of cultism and when we watch the star wars another seven eight nine movies now You can't deny the themes that are within the film and look i'm with you man like a group on star wars this is a film embedded in my brain i got much love for it however.

04:40 You know that's a subjective opinion for the listener to consider is okay are you called things being presented in my aware of them are they influencing me or they in line with my personal values and my outlook on life in my world view. And as painful as it is a lot of the ideas that I'm seeing in the star wars films, Are not congruent with my personal worldview and my personal desires of where I want to take my life now. That's not the condemn Some of these are called belief systems because because look, i've read a lot of these new age concepts I've read A decent amount of occult material and some of the things they talk about I can't necessarily disagree with but overall when you extrapolate some of their ideas They take you down the path of luciferianism which I disagree with hmm

CHAPTER 03 / 20 Discussion

George Lucas, Altamont Music Festival, and Rolling Stones Connection

George Lucas began his career as a cameraman for the Rolling Stones documentary Gimme Shelter at the 1969 Altamont Music Festival. This event, marked by a murder during the performance of Sympathy for the Devil, is cited as a pivotal moment of occult influence. Connections are drawn between Lucas, the Manson Family, and filmmaker Kenneth Anger, suggesting a spiritual atmosphere that may have influenced the creation of Star Wars.

george lucas· altamont music festival· rolling stones· mick jagger· kenneth anger· manson family

05:33 Yeah man, it is a tangled web for sure and I'm not quite so sure where i stand on that stuff either but let me ask you about George Lucas himself. Is there anything really in his early life or the forming of Lucas films that might lead one to think this wasn't completely organic or innocent? That there was a bigger agenda here to implant specific stuff into culture from the get go? So George Lucas he's an interesting character when you look at his background In my research for this book, I didn't see anything that was particularly damning about George Lucas. Like, I didn't see that he was practicing any of these occult teachings. He's not a Freemason as far as I could find out but when you look at his background like how we got his start...he was the cameraman at the Altamont Music Festival which most people are familiar with. This is the music festival from the late 60s. This happened in 1969

06:30 This was the concert that was supposed to be kind of like a sequel to woodstock and during this concert they had the hell's angels were security guards. While the rolling stones are on stage one of the hell's angels saw a man with a gun in the crowd and then i get into a fight the man got killed, And when you look at, when you break down that specific instance which I'll do in a minute here but first let's get to George Lucas. But when you look at this exact instance You'll find out that there is an occult theme behind all of this and when you find out that George Lucas got his start as the cameraman for The Altamont Festival for the Rolling Stones Gimme Shelter documentary

07:14 you can see that there is perhaps some kind of Luciferian influence that might have passed into him. And I realize that's, it's kind of a woo-woo statement to make but let me explain a few things of why I believe this to be so because I've read a lot about Charles Manson and I'm fairly obsessed with the Charles Manson case in The Family. So when you read Charles Manson's history of how The Family got built up He says they started out with kind of a more hippie vibe, you know communal love that kinda thing. And he made acquaintances with some witches and he went to some black magic ceremonies in Los Angeles at the place called The Spiral Staircase and this is the one instance, the exact moment that Charles Manson claims his family was possessed by evil

08:09 Now whether you want to believe charles manson or not it's kind of up to you but like surely the manson family project there spiraled out of control and into the realm of evil so i believe my personal world view is that there is a spiritual component all things. So it could be very possible that at ultimate, the same evil spirit that mcjagger talked about his mcjagger and the rolling stones they were on stage. And he said that you know their plane sympathy for the devil and he says we always have something very funny to happens when we start a number because at the time it was into the call he was following a man in kenneth anger can't think there wasn't a feeling my follower of alistair crowley,

08:57 And Mick Jagger was actually in a couple of Kenneth Anger's films, which ironically or not so ironically also featured Bobby Bousoleil who was one of the Manson family murderers as well as Steve Grogan Clem another one of the Manson family murders. They were all in Kenneth Anger's films One of them was named Lucifer Rising but anyways in December 1969 at the Altamont Festival Mick Jagger knew something was happening because he was aware of the occult practices. And he said, something very funny always happens when we start sympathy for the devil. And then the next song is when the murder happened and it created this whole backlash and fallout of the hippie movement. And in the book I go into even more detail on this you find out Mick Jagger's girlfriend Marianne Faithful who was also a witch she was in attendance but the idea that there is a Luciferian spirit that can be in the air and I propose

09:54 Maybe george lucas was influenced somewhat by it when he created the story known as a star wars. I mean is interesting that he was there now what's up kind of a pivotal moment yeah absolutely and you know if you wanna go even further into this i read a book, buy joel selvin about all tomorrow cuz i heard in the past that george lucas with the camera man there but i wasn't able to confirm that I watched Gimme Shelter and actually saw him in the credits, and then i confirmed it in the book written by Joel Selden. And in the book its quite curious because he says that uh let me pull up here

10:34 I was just talking to a friend of mine about this. He says, even before the music started that day, omens could be found if one wanted to see them. Astrologers wondered why the producers had not charted the stars for the occasion since the Woodstock producer's consulted astrologers before selecting its dates? Hmm. On Saturday, December 6th the moon was in Scorpio the forecast as heavy days evil tidings acts of violence from the beginning there was blood on the ground now we've got this astrological component Another thing we could just throw in there is Kenneth anger the guy was talking about the director that made these occult films He made a film in 64 called Scorpio rising again had occult themes But could it be that he did a little bit of predictive programming which many of your listeners already know what pretty good programming? Is right sort of a component of ceremonial or ritual magic where they're causing change in the universe and conformity with their own will

CHAPTER 04 / 20 Discussion

The Force, Vril Society, and Mormonism in Star Wars

The concept of the Force mirrors the Vril energy field researched by secret societies and the Nazi Vril Society. Producer Gary Kurtz, a Latter-day Saint, significantly influenced the Star Wars narrative, which shares parallels with the history of Mormonism and its ties to Freemasonry and ceremonial magic. These elements suggest the franchise was designed to distribute esoteric models to the masses.

the force· vril society· gary kurtz· mormonism· joseph smith· occult

11:35 And you know we could go on and on for days about this whole Kenneth anger tie-in but the Scorpio rising film from 64 was the antithesis to Lucifer rising which was made in the late 60's released in 1972. Who's rising with a film that Bobby Bousley was in and Bobby Bousley talked about how this film was to usher in his new age in this concept of, the crowning conquering child Alistair Crowley was always a proponent of Yeah, man. It is an interesting thread of connections and origin for George Lucas for sure! And let's talk about the religion of Star Wars itself because that's really what most of this is about. Break down that for us because I guess the argument is that this franchise was maybe designed or packaged to distribute the models we find in secret societies and these more esoteric traditions right?

12:28 Most definitely most definitely so in the book I talk about this. I think the title of the chapter is old religion as the new religion and they tell you right at beginning a star wars from a time long ago place far away, and the origin of this entire Star Wars tale Come from george lucas and a man named gary kirk he was the producer. Is to work together in the past but the overall message if you were to take it away from star wars if you were to analyze just the religious component of it is that there's a belief, global consciousness with these hidden energy fields called the force

13:09 We see this concept with the new age line of thought we see it from hitler's nazis that were channeling energy that they call real right you know the real society. It's a very much in a cold belief so if people just understood that one thing about the occult and about these ideas of global consciousness they would immediately understand star wars is in fact an occult tale If you wanna look further into the background of gary kurtz who was. just as much responsible for the writing of the Star Wars tale as George Lucas was. You know, Kurtz was a latter-day Saint Mormon which not to pick on the Mormons but their history of the Mormon religion is rich in paganism Freemasonry even a little bit of witchcraft and these ceremonial magic traditions because its founder Joseph Smith

14:06 Was practicing black magic and channeling disembodied spirits that's the same thing we see so often because you look at these things as a one off and you don't really get it but if u, Become consumed with reading about the history of the occult and all of these kind of dark groups you start to see the connections here yeah, man for sure and uh You know I do feel a little bit weird when we talk about magic and conjuring and the occult as if it's all bad or evil Or I don't know. It just feels weird because I do think there is a like a puritanical right-wing Christian sort of perspective

CHAPTER 05 / 20 Discussion

Christianity, Ritual Magic, and the Illuminati Agenda

A discussion on the tension between traditional Christianity and the practice of ritual magic highlights the internal struggles of modern believers. The Illuminati is theorized to seek the destruction of organized religion in favor of a Luciferian doctrine. Historical context is provided regarding the Catholic Church's suppression of Gnostic and pagan practices that were originally part of early Christian traditions.

christianity· ritual magic· illuminati· gnosticism· catholic church· religion

14:47 that doesn't resonate with me. I mean, I know some people who practice magic it can bring positivity into a person's life and we really shouldn't forget that thousands of people were killed and tortured by the dominant authority of their day because they were using apparently very useful tools for connecting with reality in impactful ways We do still have the drug war for that reason but like any tool i guess it has many uses Absolutely. And I'm with you to a certain level, Gregg. You know people have listened to my last show i did with you and I'm not sure where it was on my journey at that time but I guess it's pretty early on still when I started this whole research into the quote-unquote Illuminati It started out with the plan of separating the Christian religious aspect from the understanding what's going on because I was always like

15:39 I was always reading this stuff, and inevitably the theorists go off into Bible-thumping territory. And that always turned me off. And I'm a Christian and I've said it before—and I'll say it again—I'm a terrible Christian so do not look to me for any kind of guidance on that front! But I am also aware that some of the beliefs within the Christian faith I don't agree with. That's where I have my internal struggle with it because over the years That to me from what I can tell this quote-unquote Illuminati wants to destroy all forms of religion including Christianity now is there validity To the idea that religions can cause more pain and trouble than they're worth sure. I see it often, right? I see the same struggles that other people have

16:30 I'm not sure why the church feels the need to get into people's bedroom. They push shame upon some people, child abuse, child abuse? Yeah, yeah there's a you know, that cover up of the child abuse thing which i don't know how The Catholic Church, The Vatican justified that but A lot of things really make you wonder what the right answer is so You know on my personal journey I am trying reconcile what going on here and And I with you man I don't condemn people that believe in ritual magic. I don't condemn even practicing Satanists because i've read some of their literature and some of the things they say, I kind of agree with you know? And I'm not saying I'm a Satanist by any stretch but my journey...my understanding what's going on is

17:16 right or wrong. They want to get rid of Christianity, they want to get rid of all religions and they want I believe to instill a Luciferian doctrine into the masses into a new evolution of mankind. Yeah, I mean it-I do see that element there seems to be like a covert initiation coming through Hollywood from people who have been through a lot of that esoteric stuff but it is interesting that you say you're Christian because I grew up Catholic and once i shed that, I really had a chip on my shoulder about anything religious. And what really needed to do was separate Christianity and the catholic church because the catholic church is more of uh...of an empire political movement in a lot of ways

18:01 And when you go really far back to the Gnostics and these people who were pagans and were practicing magic, a lot of them would consider themselves Christians. And it was the Catholic Church who said actually we're going to get rid of all that and we're going to adopt Christianity as our own and we're gonna torture and kill anyone who's giving off offerings in any of that stuff because like ancestor altars and like making offerings to people in your bloodline, that's a very Christian thing. And that seems to be the biggest part of the Christian faith that they wanted to remove at that time and so I don't know it gets very tangled up you know it's a very knotted history trying to sort out this and that but it is interesting the more you do it

18:47 Yes, it's very very difficult and obviously that's why there shows like yours that exist because people know they can tell something isn't quite right and It's difficult to pinpoint what is going on who to believe what the trust To me from best I can glean is that? There is this desire to reinstate some of these Sort of pagan ideas of worshipping multiple deities or maybe even just channeling certain spirits Maybe going back to the stars because they think that he's like alien overlords Of some kind will be impressed with our abilities to enter new worlds I mean, it goes in so many directions The one thing that I can tell for sure is going on there. We see would the Star Wars tale and

CHAPTER 06 / 20 Discussion

Balancing the Force, Alchemy, and Reconciliation of Opposites

The Star Wars narrative focuses on balancing the Force, which aligns with the alchemical concept of the reconciliation of opposites. This philosophy suggests that there is no absolute light or dark, but rather an equilibrium of both. The character arc of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader serves to make the audience sympathize with the dark side, challenging traditional notions of good and evil.

alchemy· carl jung· baphomet· darth vader· duality· the force

19:37 is this battle over the ideas of duality, right? In the Christian belief system it's kind of like God and man are separate. Good and evil those are the two opposite ends but the occult systems they seem to believe that god man nature good evil they're all the same it's either a connection with this cosmic source or a disconnection either way There's a sort of absolute truth in all things. And we can go into that kind of line of thought when you look at Carl Jung, you look at alchemy with this idea of the rebus and the reconciliation of opposites that you see on the Baphomet image—you know, the goat with the boobs? But anyways in Star Wars you see that because that's why they keep talking about this idea of balancing the force because you'll notice there is supposedly a light side to the Force and dark side to the Force

20:34 Jedi knights are told you know the followers of the light side mannequins told. Hey man you know your gonna be on the right side before now you can have a family you can't really have love is more or less sort of like a priest figure, So he screws around and does it, falls in love with Padme. They have some children And then he uses the dark side to try to save them which the viewers in episode 3 when they watched that film when it came out they walked out of theater confused literally confused because here was Darth Vader The guy who we all grew up thinking was the embodiment of evil

21:16 And you start to understand him and sympathize for him in and say well i can't get why he went to the dark side maybe it's not so evil quote unquote. So what the purpose of the entire star wars tale is, Is to show us that there is no such thing as light or dark there's only the force and when they say balance the forest well. To the common person i think will bring balance of the forest that means get rid of the dark side will not really i mean if you think about it, do have equality you gotta have Parts equal on each end of the spectrum there so you're an equilibrium So you would have equal parts light and equal parts dark, so you would have the force balanced. So to speak Yeah exactly exactly So to me it seems like they're pushing the same thing that the alchemists talk about with the reconciliation of opposites The symbolism of the hermaphrodite it's all the idea of

CHAPTER 07 / 20 Discussion

Qabbalistic Tree of Life, Da'ath, and the Sith Lords

The title "Darth" is linked to Da'ath, the hidden node on the Qabbalistic Tree of Life that represents a shortcut to higher consciousness. Aleister Crowley warned of the dangers of this realm, which is also compared to the "Upside Down" in the series Stranger Things. The Sith use this dark path for individuation, a process explored by psychologists like Carl Jung and philosophers like Friedrich Nietzsche.

qabbalah· tree of life· da'ath· aleister crowley· sith· stranger things

22:12 Getting rid of this kind of duality concept of good and evil. It's all okay in the occult worldview Yeah, man And there are a lot of little details too that are interesting like the connection to why the Sith are called Darth right? Right yeah When you look at, again in these occult systems they all seem not all of them but many of them seem to follow this Qabbalistic tree of life. This tree of life is this idea that the tree of life is various Sephirot which look like circles or sometimes called shells and that God created the universe through emanations of thought that one could traverse this supposed Tree of Life each Sephiroth

23:00 gain an understanding and a mastery of the universe, and progress to the next one. Going up the tree of life to the top which is where the heavenly realm is So, one way you can traverse this tree of life is to take a shortcut through the center which is hidden Sephiroth. A hidden shell or node whatever you want to call it and that hidden node is called Death or sometimes Day-Oth which obviously lends itself to the idea of the Darth title for the Sith Lords because the Deyat was able to shortcut through and make it to the top, which is again to use the dark side of The Force. Which Jedi Knights condemn using

23:51 And not so ironically, Aleister Crowley warned about entering through day off because if you're not prepared to enter this dark realm you could go mad. But the day off, the hidden realm is also seen in various other works. You could argue that Netflix series Stranger Things shows this dark side to the tree of life and what they call the upside down Star Wars itself They have The Order 66 and on the dark side of the Tree Of Life there's 66 fallen angels

24:28 They call them the fallen gods. I think Kenneth Grant called them the fallen gods of the Klepoth, but anyways, the idea is you enter through this dark realm in order to understand yourself, to overcome your sort of shadow version. Alan Watts compared this to a rose being born through the manure. It's part of the individuation process that Carl Jung and Frederick Nietzsche were researching during their times. I like that analogy the rose through manure i mean it's just an interesting thought exercise but yeah i mean good and good and evil are interesting concepts but they are kind of human constructs because we don't think of like a tiger or shark as evil.

25:13 They definitely rip things apart. Right, that's a very valid statement. But yeah the whole Star Wars tale is trying to explore this idea in not such an overt way but you know if you really sit down and look at it you can see all this talk of duality and this dark side of The Force then they show us Anakin who turns out to be sort of like the rebel figure, the fallen angel who actually you could sympathize for You can see the Luciferian influence here because Lucifer, he's the fallen angel. The misunderstood hero who actually just wanted to help mankind as per the occultists so you know these people they don't look at evil the same way that most of the world does So to them they don't really see the harm in it not to defend them but in their defense

26:08 So they like these ideas of these sort of antinomian systems because they want people to explore realms of the divine and demonic, just like The Keys Of Solomon. There was one for the demons, the lesser magic I think we called it and then one for the greater magic. And Aleister Crowley talked about using white magic or black magic But it's both sides of the force, both extremes can be used and they want us to acknowledge that. It's not so clear cut what is good and what is evil right?

CHAPTER 08 / 20 Discussion

Nazi Occultism, Maria Orsik, and the Vril Society

The Thule and Vril Societies played a major role in Nazi occultism, focusing on the evolution of mankind and the channeling of extraterrestrial entities. Medium Maria Orsik reportedly channeled information to help the Nazis develop advanced technology and UFOs, later known as Foo Fighters. These practices involved Dionysian rituals and trance states to achieve higher consciousness.

nazis· vril society· thule society· maria orsik· ufo· foo fighters

26:45 Man, it's deep stuff. And you mentioned the Vril earlier I was really psyched to see you talk about the Vril and the Thule society because that is a corpus of material that i really do love. It's very provocative stuff not only did they talk about the inner earth but also exotic energy sources and flying saucers all in a very occult package Super interesting, but it is hard to find a lot of people who talk about that or know much about that little slice of the pie. Can you tell us more about the Vril and how it might tie in here as well? Oh yeah! Yeah I'd love too...yeah It's also very fascinating to me The whole Nazi story just blows your mind when you read some of this stuff And for what its worth I do recognize that

27:32 Some of the nazi belief stuff was taken a little bit out of context because there's a lot of sensationalizing of what happened there But the fact remains that there was some heavy-duty occult influences going on true when you talk about the drill specifically You're right. There's not a lot of resources out there I made a video for my YouTube channel that took clips from a show called Dark Fellowships. In it, they talk about this Vril Society and in fact they even have an author in there who wrote a book about the Vril Society This is a show that was first released maybe 2012 or 2013 so its been out for awhile and I watched it They were talking to a guy who was an author of a book about the Vril, I look him up

28:17 turns out he never released a book there's lot of people that were talking about it in forums and hey man what happened to this guys but i want you know we wanted to read it. So the big mystery is why never got release but a lot of the concepts they talked about on this show, Again tie us into all of these were called beliefs because the real society was founded by Rudolf von subotendorf who was an occultist Alchemists Freemason and he founded the Thule Society which you mentioned previously The Thule Society it was again one of these secret societies. They believed in this superior evolution of mankind

28:58 They thought that the world of Atlantis existed and that the Aryan race would be the ones to bring that back. So, that's why Hitler took a lot his beliefs from Helena Blavatsky works where she talked about how there was like a master race and I was why he did what everyone knows that story but Heinrich Himmler, he was particularly interested in channeling spirits so The real society was the secret society that Hitler and his Nazis were able to sort of befriend, and they used them for channeling extraterrestrial entities through these mediums. There's a female medium named Maria Orsik—she's kind of the most famous one—but what they did was they channeled energy or information because they thought they could unlock these energy fields which

29:54 Vril actually is the name of the energy, the energy field. Very similar to The Force but Hitler and his Nazis were trying to understand how to create UFOs so they went into the Vril Society that channeled information from extraterrestrial spirits and then what happens? They allied forces saw UFOs in the sky called them the Foo Fighters So, this idea of using occult practices to channel energy or information or enlightenment is one we see often. We see it with the Dionysian rituals – that's these ideas of meditating, dancing drumming, trance states, sexual magic

30:44 The idea is that you can overload your physical senses and make union with these higher powers. And people do this because they think they can kind of achieve a certain higher level of consciousness, which is precisely what the Vril was doing at the time. Right? Man I love it! Yeah that's good stuff It is. It's out there but these people believed in it We brought the Nazi scientists over Everyone knows that story Werner Von Braun And various other Nazi scientists came over here to America to help our rocket program out. Everyone knows the story of Jack Parsons, similar concept he was a mid-jet propulsion labs which was the predecessor to NASA. He was an occultist who actually thought he was the antichrist follower of Aleister Crowley

CHAPTER 09 / 20 Discussion

Jack Parsons, Babylon Workings, and the Alien-Demon Connection

In 1946, Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard performed the Babylon Workings, a series of rituals intended to open a portal. This event is linked to the 1947 Roswell incident and the subsequent rise of UFO sightings. Some researchers propose that modern alien depictions in Hollywood are a disinformation campaign to mask the reality of demonic entities manifesting through these portals.

jack parsons· babylon workings· l. ron hubbard· roswell· ufo· tom delonge

31:37 And it's just so, there are so many connections to be had with so many of the themes we've been exploring. You look at L Ron Hubbard founder of the Church of Scientology he talked about how science fiction had a mission to get man to the stars and Werner Von Braun have the same concepts they both believed in the ancient astronaut theory because Von Braun studied a Russian named Tsoikovsky, who was the first ancient alien theorist before Eric von Daniken and all that. They believed that the aliens seeded us or evolved us and they were gods in their own right and we're supposed to try to go make contact with them. So Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons do some of Crowley's ceremonial magic called The Babylon Workings in 1946. Supposedly they didn't close the portal

32:30 1947 we get Roswell and the start of the big UFO scare, right? I think that is such an interesting through line this idea that through the Babylon workings and other rituals they open portals And we have some type of demons that have actually physically manifested Through those portals and They were like oh shit. We have to find some way to explain this and so they employed Hollywood to start making movies about aliens from outer space created the Roswell disinformation campaign that oh these are just other humanoids from another planet meanwhile they know damn well that it's a little bit different than that and I like the idea of this uh aliens as demons theme in sci-fi.

33:22 One thing that's about that particular mode of thought that confuses me is the fact that the majority of alien depictions and films are generally evil and destructive. I guess if it was all E.T. and Chewbacca, I could see a very clear narrative that they're trying to get us to accept these beings but if it's about welcoming and accepting demonic entities why so many movies like Mars attacks and alien attack movies from the 50s, and Independence Day an alien. There's so many negative depictions of these beings that narrative of like trying to get us to accept them it gets confusing to me but I guess maybe the point is just to convince us that they came from space. Right! And that's been my latest research i've been doing is reading a lot of books about this alien phenomenon

34:12 I believe people are seeing these things. I believe they're experiencing these things, there's far too many testimonies and statements from people who have a lot to lose for sure something is happening so what is it that's happening? I'm reading a book right now by Tom DeLonge and Peter LaVenda. You know it's called God Man in War Secret Machines that's right man fantastic books actually Confirming a lot of my thoughts on what i'm seeing with this alien agenda and this idea that maybe there demonic maybe there's some kind of spiritual components but like i said i got a few more books to read about it for kinda like. Come to a decent conclusion because you're right it's absolutely confusing what are we watching one movie their bodies in the next movie they're destroying us

CHAPTER 10 / 20 Discussion

Flat Earth Theory, NASA, and Satellite Skepticism

A discussion on the Flat Earth theory examines the role of NASA and Hollywood in projecting a specific model of the cosmos. Skepticism is raised regarding the existence of satellites and the validity of space footage, citing arguments from figures like Eric Dubay. One speaker clarifies their background in science while acknowledging the difficulty of verifying information outside of personal observation.

flat earth· nasa· satellites· eric dubay· gravity· cape canaveral

35:05 What are we to believe in this thing? Right. And I mean, I'm not a flat earther and not at all flatter there but when it comes to this angle one thing all those sci-fi and alien motifs have in common is whether they're good guys or bad It's projecting the idea that the cosmos is infinite full of other planets with intelligent life That's just zipping around and those ideas really do come from two places Hollywood and NASA and if we found out that we were on a closed system type of construct That would be quite the mindfuck, you know Yeah. Yeah that's you know You just said something that's probably the best argument for the flat-earth theory that I've ever heard because I don't put much weight into the flatter theory myself cuz I

35:46 I've got a master's degree in science and some of the university i was with, we shot up satellites into space. And the whole idea of a satellite is based upon the laws of gravity and the fact that the earth is spherical and the satellite can get any geocentric orbit so to me it seems like that would take way too much coordination to you know fake the entire earth as flat idea but Man, I mean who knows what to believe? Who are we taking our information from exactly. Right and that's the kind of mind exercise that i like about it is that you go up to the apex of these ideas that are all across culture and you find only a couple people but that is so interesting to say that you've actually been apart of satellite launch because thats one of the big arguments is were told theres these tens of thousands satellites out there

36:43 We don't really have any like if you google image search you won't find pictures of satellites in space that look legitimate they're all like CGI or they look like really old technology that couldn't work we're told the thermosphere is so damn hot. That it's really hard to imagine that these things actually would work in that environment, And there's people like Eric Dubay who leads the Flat Earth Movement, who says that when they shoot these rockets off at Cape Canaveral in Florida they're just going up up and then curving and going out into the ocean. It's hard to say because I can't find the footage that really debunks a lot of the things that he says. And, I'm just curious...I mean this obviously wasn't on the agenda but as someone who has taken part in something like that and is open-minded, I'm just saying can you look at that and like is it really something you saw that would debunk it or was a lot of it kind of outside your observer effect?

37:39 Let me clarify that statement. I might have misspoke, but I wasn't a part of that program They were in the same College of Applied Sciences in the same building that I was there and I read about it So I didn't have personal observation That confirmed it no But for sure that's how you know, it's our GPS system works I mean I just believe that for there to be a flat earth, there would be far too much coordination and people being involved in the lie. That's true. I agree with you. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just playing devil's advocate. So controversial isn't it? Yeah it is!

CHAPTER 11 / 20 Discussion

Donald Marshall, Cloning Centers, and Consciousness Transfer

Donald Marshall's claims regarding underground cloning centers and REM-driven consciousness transfer are explored in the context of the transhumanist agenda. This concept of uploading human consciousness to a digital cloud is a recurring theme in the works of Arthur C. Clarke, such as 2001: A Space Odyssey. The ultimate goal is theorized to be the evolution of mankind into a new, non-biological form of existence.

donald marshall· cloning· consciousness transfer· arthur c. clarke· illuminati· transhumanism

38:26 But another thing I wanted to ask you about, because time is going by quite fast. You do note that clones are a big part of the Star Wars saga? Of course the Clone Wars was there and I know you've cited Donald Marshall as someone to maybe pay attention to in this area. I've had him on The Higher Side Chats definitely one of the more wild episodes but what are your thoughts on what Donald says about cloning centers and consciousness transfers and underground facilities in the night Do you think there's some validity to what he says? Man, when I read his stuff at first. I thought man this poor guy thinks he has maybe some mental health issues or something and i'm not joking about that because I think there is a little bit of mental health component to some people that make claims that are out there most of us can't understand however what grabbed me was that he had been talking about this

39:22 record the rm driven consciousness transfer and i believe that's an actual thing that's what i wrote about my very first book about six seven years ago, that is exactly where they're taking us so i do believe donald marshall may very well be a source of factual information as out there in how landers sounds because that is the ultimate goal if you look at this idea It's hard to get their heads around the idea that we can take our consciousness uploaded into the cloud and then transfer it or download it into some kind of robot or whatever you wanna call it. That's exactly where they want to take us there is a patents out there for this idea,

40:11 Facebook spend a lot of money on these things called mind files is this idea that you can take. A person's memories beliefs thoughts how they talk and sound like look you can make it digital file the represents all these things uploaded into a cloud or database whatever you wanna call it, And then you can have a virtual reality where people are still alive in this virtual world and from that it's small step into believing the consciousness transfer. Once i do that was a master of living immortal in a virtual reality eventually they take down the path that we see from our clerk novels,

41:02 Arthur C. Clarke he was an alleged occultist of sorts, hero 2001 a space odyssey which everyone knows about from kubrick which is again talking about the chemical evolution of mankind and the creation of the star child 2001 but then he also wrote three sequels you were two thousand ten two thousand sixty one and three thousand one. And if you read all those which i highly advise outstanding books i mean not a big fiction reader but i couldn't put these down, you find that the same exact damn things that we've been talking about forever these conspiracies even talking about they're all represented in this box into me it seems like it follows

41:47 This quote unquote illuminati evolution of consciousness is where they want to take us the one that you bought mankind into a new form of being such that the human species is no longer. In existence because that's what happens i mean i don't wanna spoil the plot of this books but that's essentially what happened. When he reveals this idea of a digitized form of life that screams across the universe for eternity Yeah, man. Those themes are very strong in a whole lot of different fiction media and I want to also ask you about Disney a little bit Of course they now own the Star Wars franchise But what are your thoughts on them as an institution? Well Okay so if you look at Disney You find from sort of 50 thousand foot view You find the symbols that we've talked about so many times

CHAPTER 12 / 20 Discussion

Walt Disney, Rosicrucianism, and Mind Control of Children

Walt Disney's background as a Rosicrucian and a member of the Order of DeMolay influenced the symbolic content of Disney films. The company targets children through marketing and stories that encourage them to question reality and embrace magic. Recurring themes, such as the trauma of dead parents in films like Bambi and Star Wars, are analyzed as potential tools for psychological influence.

walt disney· rosicrucian· freemasonry· mind control· marketing· alice in wonderland

42:47 We're talking about you know the all seeing eye, triangle that kind of stuff. In fact I just had a guy email me some photos he took at Disneyland which have a shocking amount of symbolism in them when i ask him if i can write an article about them but this idea is that Disney they are the ones that control the minds of children and just like we see from real life marketing from fast food industry or cereal industry The market towards children because they know that if they can get a child hooked into their product from a young age.

43:26 they'll get more consumership from that person over their entire lifespan. And it's just kind of common sense, you wouldn't want to market towards let's say a 70 or 80 year old, they might only live another five to 10 years. You market to a five-year-old, you're gonna have 80 years worth of consumership from that child. So you take that very basic idea of marketing and you throw in the fact that Walt Disney was a Rosicrucian He study these egyptian mystery schools again same idea focus on alchemy reconciliation of opposites spiritual union with entities from another dimension. Traversing the tree of life what the chemist called the journey of planets which we see in star wars as the darth vader day off

44:18 We find out that what disney is a member of the order of the mola which is free mason. Group but you find out that he has tied in with all these allegations of what this quote unquote illuminati group is and then on top of that throw some more, disney their entire product every film and story they show us They show us how the power of magic works how the things you can create with your mind can. Happen in the universe with enough focus concentration they give us films like alice in wonderland these are films that are made to have children question the nature of reality from a young age,

45:05 Which is why I blame, I have this complex of researching this stuff because that was literally the only Disney movie. I saw as a child was Alice in Wonderland when my baby yeah when my babysitters came over i get to watch it because my parents wouldn't let me watch disney really? Yeah crazy huh wow so these these stories they always have these themes of spells and magic and talking animals and when you look into The belief systems you'll find that these are all things that they believe in it's hard to deny. What the disney agenda is me know besides making money obviously there pretty good at that but i was pushed this world of magic and how these ideas of mankind can control the universe through his own agenda his own will

46:00 And then on top of that all we've got this thing with the dead parents Oh, it's always the there's always the dead parents in these films It's always you know Bambi. The mom gets shot very traumatic The same thing happens in Star Wars which go this is even pre Disney procurement of the Star Wars Empire and post You're right both exactly the kids are forced to either witness their parents death or Even kill them not to give it on who hasn't seen episode seven yeah but i'm gonna say what happened for a year are good enough yet they killed the kio han solo. Yeah but color and that's his own son in east forced to kill his own father i mean how traumatic is that right,

CHAPTER 13 / 20 Discussion

Transhumanism, Joseph Campbell Archetypes, and the Family Unit

The transition toward a transhumanist revolution may force humanity to choose between biological limits and technological immortality. Joseph Campbell's archetypes, including the separation from parents and the reconciliation of opposites, are central to the Star Wars saga. Some argue these narratives serve an agenda to dismantle the traditional family unit by normalizing the absence or destruction of parent figures.

transhumanism· joseph campbell· archetypes· family unit· francis bacon· shakespeare

46:45 That's interesting, man. And yeah you're right that happens in so many different Disney movies I mean Bambi Aladdin Cinderella Snow White Jungle Book it's always about orphans or people who lose their mother or have an evil stepmother specifically it's a very interesting pattern and the magic stuff is interesting that obviously it is in those Disney movies teaching kids to question reality I wonder if that's so bad because the notion that consciousness drives reality, I actually think that probably is a pretty true accurate description of things. And when I look at like introductory magic videos or books an example they give is like... If they're trying to make the point that consciousness drives reality when you

47:33 Make a sandwich you initially have the idea in your head. Oh, I want a sandwich You visualize it you think about how it tastes and then you go and you make yourself one And really that is on a base level Your thoughts manifesting in reality and reality might be some type of sandbox playground where we can Have a lot more influence over the material world But we've been denied The compounds that show us beyond the veil. We've been denied the rituals and the esoteric knowledge that kind of gives us that stuff, but then yeah you can look at the other side of the coin and say well that's Luciferian because man is trying to rise to the level of God and then you can go back to the Gnostics and say well is God even a good figure? There is a creator of this universe but who says he's a positive figure I mean He wants blind servitude in

48:28 illusionary paradigm. Maybe Lucifer, the light bringer who elevates man isn't so bad and then you get into the transhumanism stuff and you're like well I don't know if we want to be merging with machines but at the same time technology is kind of what has lifted many many people out of poverty basically ended slavery and so it's uh it's just tough to put moral judgments on some of this stuff Yeah, they're very perplexing questions. And the sad part is we're all going to be forced to make decisions based on this in the next 10-20 years. Let's see how well people want to stick to their guns when the transhuman revolution happens because these people that use technology and utilize it to become somewhat immortal or extend their life 50-100 years... I don't know that I'm strong enough to deny that!

49:21 I don't know. It's gonna be a tough decision to make. And I had people come back to me and say, well this is because Disney films are just based on Shakespeare mythology and grim fairy tales. They all contain that stuff so they're really just lifting their stories and that could be true but another counterpoint to that would be they do pick their stories And this theme is in everything right and shakespeare was supposedly was francis bacon who was one of the integrated ascended masters so he had a call changes with him what i've heard i asked the.

50:10 A woman who was taking theater arts I think is what she was taken anyways i asked her about this idea and she said there's a very rational response he said that. The films in these tales the remove the parent component to the tails because it simply easier that way there's less character development to consider if you just remove the parents from it 90 minutes yeah maybe I mean it could be but i mean you see it so much in the star wars tales you see. Django fed beheads mace windu right in front of his son or i'm sorry that backwards makes when do he has jangles and from the sun boba fett your anakin's mom dies right as arms same with vader and luke yep there is that i mean it just isn't a lot of stuff i don't know that there's not some kind of

51:02 agenda to show us the destruction of the family unit. Is that one of those Joseph Campbell archetypes? One of those classic, maybe immortal types of mythological tales? The like rising up to kill the father? Yeah there's all these archetype events that Joseph Campbell talked about you see in the Star Wars films You got the birth death and separation from parents is the other one And how ironically there's also the unionizing of opposites, which again same thing. Duality of the force reconciliation of opposites alchemical ideas But yeah, the archetype event of separating from the parents is most definitely in Joseph Campbells work

CHAPTER 14 / 20 Discussion

Beauty and the Beast, Aleister Crowley, and Satanic Symbolism

The 2017 remake of Beauty and the Beast is analyzed for its symbolic language, including the portrayal of the Beast as a "fallen hero" similar to Satanic archetypes. Connections are made between the Beast's appearance and Aleister Crowley's descriptions of demonic entities. The character Lumiere is identified as a "light-bringer" or Luciferian figure, contributing to the subconscious delivery of occult belief systems.

beauty and the beast· aleister crowley· baphomet· katy perry· carl jung· symbolism

51:45 Yeah, that's obviously another one of those key sources for Lucas. There are plenty of quotes of him talking about the impact Joseph Campbell had and that he basically lifted a lot of the archetypes straight out of there but we're about at that halfway point I wanted to ask you about Beauty and The Beast specifically because it is one of the newest Disney movies out Of course is just a rehashing but you did break it down And I thought you picked up on a lot of interesting elements Can you tell us a little bit about what you saw there? Sure Sure. Yeah, so I saw Beauty and the Beast actually saw the cartoon, the Disney cartoon video of it maybe 10 years ago or something like that but a lot of it seems to have sort of this symbolic language has a lot of these ideas I've talked about like again the destruction of the family unit

52:33 Because in it, the mom's gone. So like you've got the main character bell or Bella things Bella and inch Belle hooker so she doesn't have a mother non-existent she's dead we find out that she died and the father is very upset about this And he in the tail He allows the beast to kidnap his own daughter for his own safety which again this this instills doubt in the parent figures of As far as a child's perspective goes. Yeah, as protectors? As protectors right! So it basically says look don't rely on your family which ties us into the destruction of the family unit argument. As far as this particular movie this 2017 movie The big controversy they wanted us to believe in Which when I say they i'm talking about like the mainstream media which we all know We can't trust as far as we could tell There was a controversy over this character

53:32 Who i think is how you pronounce his name they say you know there's this gay character in a movie and all of these theaters are banning it. And if you wanted to believe that this was part of the destruction of the family unit, you could maybe use that argument. However in the film it's barely in there I mean, I watched it and the parts...I mean you could guess the guy was maybe homosexual but like I'm a 30-something year old man I can tell but like a child don't know how they could tell I really do hate when political agendas are inserted in stuff like that, but at the same time. I really think kids who are gay need to feel included and it probably means so much more to them To see a connection like that then it means to anybody else or you know That I should be saying It's any kind of problem because it's got to be an isolating life as a minority especially in that wheelhouse in particular And there really isn't a whole lot of

54:32 that stuff for them historically, although now some people make the argument that there's too much. But the point is when it comes to little kids who are going through like really serious stuff and coming of age stuff and they're trying to figure out what they are I don't know that it's all that bad. And I agree entirely with that. I've got gay people in my family transgendered in my family we all knew from a young age you know when they were young Everyone knew they were different, you know and there's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it And if you look at the pure statistics of the thing is you've got elevated rates of suicide and depression with people that are come from that community Simply because of the shame aspect in it so I agree with you that Inserted into a film. I don't have a problem with that. I think to start talking about protesting it and all this just puts more light on the subject

55:26 You know the thing that they're worried about their actually perpetuating to make it worse no one would notice if it wasn't a big story right and i don't really know what the purpose of that is but in the film with my argument. That this is again another luciferian tale in the song they say its a tail as old as time. And then it were supposed to find the beast endearing and the beasts is analogous too, Various satanic ideas obviously you got the beast 666 hours to crowley. The beast looks akin to the moloch character that we've heard about so often it demanded the blood sacrifices back in the pagan days of mesopotamia

56:12 You know, you can go on and on about all these analogies of the beast with satanic sort of dark heroes. So again just from a higher perspective you can just say that the Beast is the endearing rebel angel, the fallen hero, the dark hero in this tale. Yeah and uh... I think you mentioned that Crowley has described the Beast as looking like a serpent mixed with a lion and that very much looks like the character in the Disney cartoon and film. And, uh... I also liked the point you've made about Lumiere this candlestick guy who his role is to say maybe the beast isn't so bad it's very much like Lucifer he is a goddamn candle he is a lightbringer So I think that kind of symbolism It's kinda interesting to parse out

57:02 Yeah, most definitely. I mean if you look at the tarot card deck that you see this beast on the Crowley Thoth deck or Thoth Deck i should say You can see it looks very similar to The Beast from Beauty and The Beast And we saw all the same beasts Katy Perry came out on in the Super Bowl 2015 Again as many of these ideas they don't seem like a big deal but Approach it from multiple angles the subtle symbols that go into the subconscious as carl young spoke about, any talk to us on a subconscious level and connect this with the sort of ancient archetypal field of belief systems that the illuminati or the cultist understand and believe in. And they're trying to bridge

57:54 You know these archaic remnants they call it. They're trying to bridge that into our world Mm-hmm, you know I like I said, I'm not I'm not the guy to look do for philosophical life advice on I just see stuff in Entertainment that's a cult related and I report on amen let people kind of make their own Truce out of it. Yeah, and you do a great job man if you do a great job. Thanks. Thanks Greg I don't know where I am with this stuff But when you look at the data that you pull out? I think the data is it spot-on man So yeah pretty much does it for us we covered quite a bit of stuff You know I do like to work you do pop culture analysis It is a lot of fun for me If nothing else but

CHAPTER 15 / 20 Discussion

IlluminatiWatcher.com, Book Giveaway, and Closing Remarks

Isaac Weishaupt concludes the interview by encouraging listeners to visit IlluminatiWatcher.com for more analysis on pop culture and the occult. He announces a free book giveaway for The Star Wars Conspiracy running from May 4th to May 9th, 2017. The goal of his work is to increase public awareness of media manipulation and the symbols hidden in plain sight.

isaac weishaupt· illuminati watcher· star wars conspiracy· book giveaway· podcast

58:35 Clearly there are a lot of under the radar messages and we would be better served by studying them and at least understanding them, you know. Whatever the motivations may be so thanks again do tell the people where they can get more what you're doing Yeah, absolutely. And you know thanks again for having me on this is by far my favorite conspiracy related podcast This is the best But no in my whole goal if I was to have a sort of mission statement as I just want people to become aware Of what's going on? A lot of people are deceived and manipulated into doing things that aren't necessarily congruent with their true beliefs or goals in life. And like you said, I try not to pass judgment on any of these things. Sometimes I get a tinge of my personal opinion in there but I try not be overbearing with it

59:20 That being said, if people want to learn more, IlluminatiWatcher.com is my website on it you can sign up for a free email newsletter in which I spoon feed sort of articles from the archives of examples just we were talking about today i've got a youtube channel very popular illuminate watcher one is the youtube tag I've got a Twitter feed, Instagram Facebook you can find all that through Illuminati watcher.com. I've got a shop tab on my website you can buy books directly from me that i can sign and mail to you or buy them on Amazon in fact what I wanted to tell the listeners was on May 4th 2017 I'm going to be having this free book giveaway for the Star Wars conspiracy the book I started talking about

1:00:05 That'll run from May 4th until I believe May 9 is the last day. But, uh, I'd advise them to please get it downloaded for free and take a look see what they think if they see the same symbols and ideas that i'm talking about. I guarantee they will. And yeah that's kind of like what I want people to take away from this is to look at the world through a different lens Noble goal for sure, man. I couldn't agree more so awesome yeah Star Wars Alice in Wonderland Beauty and the Beast Westworld the Grammys we did it we did it very cool take care of yourself out there well thank you you too you got it

CHAPTER 16 / 20 Discussion

Normalization of Taboos, Blackmail, and the Political Class

A post-interview commentary explores the theory that the elite seek to normalize illegal or taboo behaviors to eliminate the threat of blackmail. By making nefarious actions less socially unacceptable, the political class could potentially escape control by those who hold evidence of their past crimes. This perspective is offered as an alternative to the standard analysis of cultural degradation.

blackmail· pedophilia· george w. bush· skull and bones· normalization· taboo

1:00:44 The power of Christ compels you people! Boom Isaac Weishaupt making the triumphant return to THC. It's pretty clear the Star Wars saga is a blending of Joseph Campbell's hero's journey motif and belief systems of mystery traditions I find it interesting especially the Darth connection to the Da'ath Sephirot on the Qabbalistic Tree Of Life I always want to say Sephiroth because of Final Fantasy, but it's those details that i enjoy. But Isaac and I do differ on how serious or dangerous that might be which I think goes back to the demonization of magic by the church

1:01:23 Of course it's all up to interpretation here, but when the Star Wars saga starts and the theme is to bring balance to the force there are no good active Jedi left. Only old Ben and Yoda who are in exile in the Empire as just an unchecked force in the galaxy so there is a need for balance but Isaac is probably right that there is something to that subtle message that their actions seem like the goal is to eradicate evil but the message is restoring balance of the Force You can take the bill hicks approach that it's all just a ride and you actually need evil to know good you need cold no warmth any black to white. And they were all just acting out of play and so its not so bad but,

1:02:07 I don't know though, it could be a nod to this campaign people talk about to make evil seem cool. To fill media with sex and violence to numb or desensitize us and then you can throw in the transgender stuff And how it's now cool to be gender fluid and a big slice of conspiracy researchers think the goal is to slowly normalize this stuff until eventually they've normalized pedophilia and then they can come out In the open with their unsavory habit of fucking kids That is one possibility. But when I source a lot of that perspective back to conservative Christians, I wonder if this is a true proper analysis or the injection of their beliefs on the wider culture which doesn't mean it's right or wrong It's just a bias that I don't share

1:02:53 What if the elite are slowly trying to normalize pedophilia, but it's more because they want to take the air out of the blackmail they're controlled by from behind the curtain? You know you film George W. Bush coked up and banging kids when he's in college at a Skull & Bones party and then when you elevate him to president you just remind him of those good old days in the Skull & Bones basement and inform him of what his agenda will be How could a political class get out of a situation like that other than making their nefarious actions less taboo? That's another perspective. It doesn't justify anything, it's not making excuses, it's just possibilities that are different from what we might hear every day But when it comes to magic I do get people writing me saying that I need to stop exploring this stuff because it's bad and evil and they quote Crowley talking about blood rituals And I get that stuff

CHAPTER 17 / 20 Discussion

Magic as a Tool, Corporate Psychopathy, and Social Safety Nets

The ethics of magic are compared to the ethics of business, suggesting that the "darkness" attributed to esoteric arts is actually a reflection of psychopathic personality types. The current corporate system incentivizes cutthroat behavior, leading to a discussion on the need for owner accountability and stronger social safety nets. Crime is often framed as a result of economic necessity rather than inherent evil.

magic· capitalism· corporations· psychopathy· poverty· social programs

1:03:45 But I guess my attitude is, we as people are always trying to work towards our goals, our freedom and a better life and all that good stuff. We do it every day or we should. Now most of us don't want to hurt anyone in that process For example let's say you own a pizza place in town And there's another pizza place that does just about as good as you You both have half the market for pizza in this town A lot of us will be happy with that. We got a good business, no threats of being shut down... Everything is good! Sure you can always do better so you spend money on advertising and making sure your customer service is on point and you do everything you can to grow nothing wrong with that

1:04:25 But the personality type that we have among the elite would not be happy with that. They want it all, so they look at that competition and they hire a team to go in and create a gas leak. And then when the owner's in the back, they blow that place sky high! Now they have a monopoly and their pizza place reigns supreme So not just in magic, but in life. It's all about what you're willing to do and let's apply that to magic What's wrong with creating an enchanting sigils trying to improve the luck of your pizza place? What's wrong with making offerings of water and rum to your ancestors or other spirits asking them to open up doors of success for you

1:05:03 There are a lot of spirits, just like there are a lot of people. And sure magic probably can scale up to working with some really nasty entities who demand the rape and death of children to make a deal with them but you don't have to go there just like you don't have to blow up your competition either So we can see that there are people who would rape and murder. Does that mean we should avoid interacting with all people or just those people? Same goes for magic and spirits, if you ask me We shouldn't avoid all of it just because it can get pretty nasty at the extremes I hope that makes sense You can probably get some very nefarious results And be a cold cutthroat motherfucker motivated only by greed whether you use the magical toolbox Or just use your own sick twisted mind

1:05:48 This is kind of my problem with capitalism or crony capitalism or corporatization, whatever you want to call it. Is that our system whether it's the limited liability aspects for corporations? Or maybe it's just the legal mandate to put shareholder profits over the moral good and public health The point is if you look at the leading corporations or leaders in almost every field It is those people who would blow up the competing pizza place So how do you get rid of that incentive? That would be pretty hard. I think we should remove corporations and make every company's owner fully accountable for the actions of their business, that is the only way i can think of. Only the risk of severe punishment would actually keep cold-hearted psychopaths in check because it is always a cost benefit analysis and if were not catching people then they see serious upsides to nefarious deeds People talk about getting rid of money entirely

1:06:43 I don't know about that. I do think that when it comes to petty crime, a lot of it happens out of necessity and severe economic pressures if your family is starving at home and you have the chance to rob a rich guy at the ATM, just let your family starve? I mean, I get that! And I think that's the type of crime and violence we can actually stop with good social programs. We need safety nets more appealing than jail cells In fact, let me tell you a story here that I don't think i've told on the air before. It speaks to this point as well as an unrelated point that sometimes we find that things in our lives

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The Story of Uncle Bob, Navy Trials, and Systemic Compassion

A personal family story is shared regarding an uncle who was subjected to electric shock therapy and mental hospital torture after a sodomy trial in the Navy. The trauma led to a life of instability and an eventual suicide following a desperate attempt to be returned to jail for basic needs. This narrative serves as a call for greater compassion for those marginalized by systemic labels and institutional abuse.

navy· sodomy trial· mental hospital· electric shock therapy· suicide· compassion

1:07:21 make a lot of sense given the path we're on. But I found out fairly recently through an exploration of my ancestors for the sake of magic that my mom had a brother who died before i was born that she never really talked about. Turns out, my mom's brother Bob was gay and because of pressures from his military father he joined the navy well somewhere along the line he got charged with sodomy which in the 70s and 80s is basically being charged as being gay And I don't know how he got caught, but i'm guessing it might have something to do with serving in the Navy. So there's a trial and he is found guilty and given a choice between jail and corrective therapy at a mental hospital. He chooses the latter and for several years undergoes electric shock therapy and other forms of mental hospital torture and brain scrambling

1:08:14 But when he served his time, my parents are the ones who go and pick him up. And my mom says he was completely broken and just never the same from those experiences. And a side note that's something the elite in the system would do to all of us. They use labels like gay to get us to be less compassionate when they do it to a certain type of person And that's a big reason why we should reject those divisions. But they messed him up so badly that he couldn't get a job or make any sort of normal living, so he kind of drifted for awhile from gig to gig set up by family and friends and ultimately felt like he just couldn't handle the outside world So he got a gun and went and tried to rob a bank Now my mom says he wasn't really trying to succeed but was just going through the motions to get sent to jail where he could have a roof and bed and meals

1:09:04 But after the trial, the judge sentenced him to go back to that mental facility where he said fuck that place and he just killed himself. So my big gay Uncle Bob who I'll never know... That is his story and it relates for a few reasons We need more compassion for people who fall through the cracks especially when the system is responsible For making it happen in the first place Also, we touched on homosexuality in the show. It comes up when we're talking about ritual habits of the elite magic and liberal agendas and Disney and all that And again I like to call out manipulation and cultural agendas But i'm never gonna say there's anything wrong with being gay fuck that There isn't and i'm glad Isaac is on the same page there

1:09:51 How can we recognize the elite's conspiracy to keep us fighting amongst ourselves and then discriminate against a group like that? It just seems dumb. And third, it is interesting because I have felt sort of pulled to this conspiracy world for a long time Like if there is a destiny or true will, I think I am very close to serving mine And the more I look at events in my life or impactful elements in the lives of my family that even I didn't know about, I feel more purpose and this mission and this career that I sort of stumbled into. So that story relates to crimes of necessity, poverty...and I do think we can really do something about it! But I am sick of looking at every corporate field or market and seeing criminals who definitely don't need to be

CHAPTER 19 / 20 Discussion

Corporate Malpractice, Slave Labor, and Contaminated Blood Scandals

Major corporations across the tech, food, and medical sectors are criticized for historical and ongoing ethical violations. Examples include Apple's use of slave labor, Monsanto's impact on the food supply, and Bayer's knowing sale of HIV-contaminated blood to international markets. These instances of corporate psychopathy are presented as a greater threat to society than the practice of magic.

apple· microsoft· monsanto· bayer· hiv· contaminated blood

1:10:39 The tech sector. Apple and Microsoft, plenty to criticize there. Apple hires third-party slave labor and Microsoft is the brainchild of one of the leading eugenicists on the planet—both companies by the way stole technology and fucked over their friends and partners to get ahead. The food sector. Monsanto? Major factory farm companies? Kraft, Coke & Pepsi? People willing to suspend their morals to make their food addictive harmful and void of nutrients Medicine? No surprise here. Rockefeller, Glasgow Smith-Klein, Merck, Pfizer and Bayer... How many of us still take aspirin on occasion?! This is a company who knowingly sold HIV contaminated blood to second and third world markets because destroying it would be too costly! A company that did that is still on the shelves of every pharmacy, every CVS in Walgreens And is one of the leading providers of medicine and we stil buy it

1:11:36 So I don't know. I think the concerns about magic are really just concerns about cold, psychopathic predatory personality types but we scapegoat magic because it's weird and we don't understand it and we only see it used behind the curtain And I didn't plan this but I'm actually walking into a great callback right now in that maybe we need to restore some balance to magic Maybe the world is largely in the same state we find the Star Wars universe in In A New Hope Only evil people are using these tools. Maybe we need good people to revive the esoteric arts, and maybe if we re-enchant the world in a mainstream way things wouldn't be so one sided! But what do I know? If you liked The First Hour please sign up for PLUS to support this journey and really just get yourself a second hour of these THC episodes that ya know ya love...I think you should do it for yourself more than me but in today's PLUS show we talked about

CHAPTER 20 / 20 Discussion

THC Plus, AdSense Crackdown, and Skype Anomalies

The show concludes with a promotion for THC Plus, featuring discussions on the Grammy Awards, the United Airlines incident, and the AdSense crackdown on independent creators. A strange technical anomaly occurred during the recording where music replaced the guest's voice on Skype, which was left in the final edit. The host signs off, encouraging listeners to support alternative media structures.

thc plus· adsense· fake news· skype· united airlines· psyop

1:12:31 award show symbolism and the Grammy Awards breakdown, Kim and Kanye, Adele and Beyonce, Katy Perry in the Illuminati Johnny Depp being a vampire The United Airlines incident that just happened And Isaac's break down of it being a psyop. And we discussed the Adsense crackdown Removing these people's ability to make a living There are a lot of people and YouTubers upset right now who have depended on that structure to make a living And it does seem like if the elite want to crush independent alternative voices, this is how they're doing it now. It's part of the fake news movement and we did talk about that a little bit. Luckily I learned a little bit about websites and built my own structure outside of AdSense and Patreon because I really didn't want to be dependent on something that can go away. Being reliant on the grid staying up is scary enough. Net neutrality issues? I don't know if I'll be able to do this in two decades

1:13:30 So please sign up for THC Plus while you can. Oh, and another thing that you will hear in the Plus show is the weird Skype anomaly where Isaac's voice cut out and music from an unknown origin cut in? And I sat there confused for a few minutes until Isaac's voice came back and the music went away as if it never happened. And I use Skype quite often and I can't say I've ever experienced anything like that. It wasn't I guess super freaky or anything, but it was interesting enough that i just decided to leave it in during the editing process. And that did happen in the second hour!

1:14:10 But either way, big thanks to Isaac for being here. He's running a May the 4th special on his book do take advantage of that if you're interested IlluminatiWatcher.com and I'm gonna get out of here! I've done my part your move culture manipulators esoterica injectors and movie magic makers... You're fucked. Because you're my high side spec Watch out, I lied

1:15:03 We can't stand running around, we can't stand down. Where's your mind? The high sides, that's why I'm afraid to do the time. Yeah! I ain't gonna take

1:16:40 None of your fooling around And I can't stand No putting me down Yeah, yeah, yeah The highest value Is in my... The highest high value

1:17:20 You're not afraid to do the time Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh