Dan Xuisoko | The Hollow Earth, The Lunar Wave, & Alchemical Eternal Youth

00:16 The five puppet masters all most surely have a plan There really may be something there on the run So you've thoroughly tested every last constructed view Know that let it leak Without THC We know they're lying to us Just don't hold too much agreed Without THC The hearts I just show in company

01:01 Another day, another deep dive into this weird world from the sunshine state. I'm Greg Carlwood and when you examine the material that the crafters of the conventional worldview and scientific consensus cut out things like remote viewing astral travel, the value of altered states or as ether Oregon energy alchemy cross dimensional life, the physics that support a hollow earth model, psi effects manifestation, the power of intention epigenetics And even some things in the realm of biohacking and human optimization for cultivating strength, focus and discipline. You come to find that there's much more magic and wonder in the world than they want you to know about... ...and you're more powerful that they ever wanted you realize! The stories of insightful experts across these fields from Alternative Energy to Psi often hit all the same beats

01:53 They were painted as frauds, properly tarred and feathered through public humiliation and sometimes even snuffed out in a desperate effort to keep control over the box in which we're allowed to think. Well, today's guest Dan Zusoko is a guy who was not satisfied with being told what to think about these outlier topics. He wanted to know firsthand and through his YouTube channel he has chronicled his research into a wide range of the sort of stuff we love around here, folded in personal experimentation and fully embodied Terrence McKenna's famous line that if it's real it can take the pressure Coming in hot all the way from Bulgaria, The Strange Stuff Experimenter, Hollow Earth Enthusiast and Mind Magic Magician Dan. Welcome to the higher side! Hey Greg it's glad to be here and nice to meet you as well Yes nice to meet you thanks for doing this I have to agree with a ton of the comments i see on your channel which express that your videos are much better than the view counts would suggest but It is a process and your channel

02:57 Is not that old so I guess it started in 2019 but you've really only been making videos for like 10 months you say and i actually found You through a link about your hollow earth documentary, but as I got more into the channel. I realized there's So many wild things we can talk about from alchemy to moon mysteries And we will just fit in what we can. But you say that you consider yourself a skeptic and the true sense that you don't just believe things, you want to investigate them and your channel is sort of your journey in doing so but you also seem to have some traditional scientific or mathematical background as well as a lot of discipline when it comes to putting your body and mind through certain challenges kind of like Tim Ferriss of The Alternative

03:44 To get us going here, talk a bit about your overall mission and approach to the things you look at on the channel in general. Yeah well I'm glad you asked that question because my channel initially started... Well i was into video games and it was a video game channel And I was being told by many of my viewers that I should do something much deeper and that I am a good teacher and I'm very good at explaining things At the time I wasn't really..I didn't really believe them but many of them started requesting other topics. And at some point I decided to delete all my video game content because it's just a form of distraction for the masses, although I quite enjoyed them but... ...I decided to go into something deeper and i was always into research. I have somewhat an engineering background as well as architecture although I didn't finish my formal education because I switched to marketing

04:39 But I've been through a lot of mathematics and what i always like to say is that if you really want to get into something and discover the truth, look at the numbers and look at the raw data. And from it, you can always calculate what's the truth. Because in media we don't find raw data. We find conclusions that someone else has come to and that's a very easy way to manipulate reality in the form of telling you what I think not like you should come to by yourself and that's why if I go deep into some conspiracy theory

05:18 The first thing I do is, I look if there is a motive for it. And the second thing I do is calculate whether it's plausible and that's what I did with the Howl work. I decided to physically check if it was possible for it actually exist or if it would collapse on itself and even if it existed, would be possible for someone really live down there? What conditions must exist in order to do that? It's like that with many things, not just how it works because you hear that our world is overpopulated. That it cannot sustain itself as well but if you do them bad, you will see that that's not the truth at all and what you must do to reach that conclusion is just check how much land there is and if you'll see how many people live and see what parts of this land are farmable actually, you will come to the conclusion

06:13 It's not what they make it to seem. Yes, yes! So now it's all making sense marketing because your thumbnails and titles are quite good and the discrepancy between doing this for 10 months versus 2019 with the gaming channel...it's all starting to make sense. The engineering background because you don't talk about yourself too much. You talk about the material which is the way I do it too but It's nice to get a little background on someone people aren't too familiar with but yes the conspiratorial math you're doing it on so many different subjects and we have done episodes about the hollow earth before it's a big interest of mine your forty ish minute breakdown of the hollow earth.

06:56 Is really great you propose an interesting timeline of events in it where you say. The military accidentally leaked the polar openings and nineteen fifty seven then in nineteen fifty eight nasa was created to convince people to look up and out rather than down and then, And then only one year after that, in 1959 the Antarctic Treaty was signed between all the major countries. That was also the year they added the molten core model into the standard national school curriculum! I really like the picture you paint with this sequence of events but let's go back to that first point how did the military accidentally leak the truth in 1957?

07:40 Well, when it comes to the military you can never know if something is accidental or not. Especially when it comes to counterintelligence and wars like the Cold War as well. I will go off topic here for a minute but I have a short video that hypothesizes whether the moon landing was fake – not just to fake the moon landing but actually to win the Cold War and stop all the resources from being spent in vain. And this is the same because this year you're mentioning it is right after World War II, it's been 10 years after and the Cold War is already beginning so we need to have something to tell others that they are strong and by signing the Antarctic Treaty if you want to force other countries into signing a treaty there must be some motive to do it

08:32 and there must be a way to leverage the situation in your favor so you can make them sign up. Because this is international territory we're speaking about, and if you want to stop anyone from going there, you cannot claim it for yourself that easily because there are other major powers in play they can stop you from doing so but if you somehow unite with other countries through that, you can do it much more easily And this was my theory that this was leaked intentionally just other countries fearing from what would happen if the general public discovers something. I'm not saying that I believe in this theory 100%, but it sounds plausible to me that something like that might happen, and when you think about it – that you said we actually study at school about the molten core – It hasn't even been a hundred years since the molten core has been quote-unquote discovered. We're not sure if it exists

09:31 This is just a theory that occurred in 1936 to a woman who was studying seismology. She at first wasn't really sure what was down there, in the middle of the Earth and people thought to themselves it's something else and it's something dynamic in nature and probably molten iron core because we have magnetic field right? But stars also have magnetic fields and differentiating between the two without actually doing any calculations is very hard. And nobody did these calculations, and if you download the actual file, the white paper they did it and read it there aren't any calculations proving there's a motor core down there so that got me thinking can I calculate if a star could exist within our planet instead

10:21 because there are many records of people thinking in this direction, that stars, miniature stars could exist within planets. So I decided to do that and...I don't have an extensive physics background. I've studied physics in university for a couple of semesters but I could easily obtain the formulas I needed and I think my knowledge is somewhat accurate so I decided to calculate if it is possible to have a star on Earth And there's actually someone else who had done that before. And it's, excuse my pronunciation I'm not a native English speaker but correct me if i'm wrong spoiler or you're

11:02 I would say Euler, but Leonhard Euler. But I might be wrong too! Yeah this guy brilliant mathematician the guy who basically gave us the pi symbol and a few other mathematical staples that we all know yeah he was a close friend with Newton as well and often shared his research and studies with him And so them would sit together and ponder the mysteries of the universe and both of them were also alchemists like you said your viewers and listeners are interested in alchemy as well. So he thought that according to his calculations, there was a 600-mile diameter star let's say inside of Earth and so many people would seem entirely crazy but if you think about it based on all the data we have the molten core the supposed molten core inside Earth it has the exact same temperature of our Sun, the temperature of the surface

12:02 So if these two are so identical in nature, why wouldn't there be a star there? This was the first thought that came to my mind. And then I went searching for actual stories that would back this up and to see roughly what the temperature there was based on eyewitnesses and accounts as in books because I can easily calculate the temperature we would have inside Earth if you have 600-mile diameter star inside of Earth. That's not very hard to calculate And what I found out is that in most books related to how it works, the temperature there is 23.5 degrees Celsius

12:42 I'm sorry if I am not sure how much that is. I can check and tell your listeners that. Well, your video when you talked about temperatures as there's a core temperature or surface temperature of the ambient temperature inside the earth and when it comes to the temperature inside the earth that the inner sun would produce, you say it's about 75 which is what I hear. Seventy-five degrees Fahrenheit? It's like San Diego all the time my old stomping grounds But there's no night, which is a weird thing for circadian rhythms and that sort of thing. But there are legends of a time where there was perpetual twilight. It's often described as something on the surface because of the whole Electric Universe model you might be familiar with, where some people think that Saturn was the original star and we were in a plasma envelope. It's quite weird. I'm sure given all the things you've looked at, I'm sure you're a little familiar with the Electric Universe but these stories might actually have been about cultures inside the Earth

13:41 Well, the Electric Universe I didn't go that deep into it because it seemed like a deeper rabbit hole and I was focused on doing a simpler form of video that would be more focused going with the Electric Universe to become a two-hour video instead. Yeah yeah that's a whole separate thing for sure but you do say with Uhler's proposed inner star of 600 miles well Let's work that out because we know the circumference of the earth is about 25,000 miles or 40,000 kilometers. It's about 4,000 miles or 6400 kilometers to the center of the earth so

14:21 When you do the math, it seems like there is enough room for an inner sun and then for there to be an atmosphere. And another interesting detail is that the deepest earthquakes that we have happen at 450 miles down which you say perfectly coincides with the distance all of these stories say is the path length from surface to inner cavity. So that's odd, we have these stories and legends and we might write them off as myths but when they contain details that actually jive with the real configuration here then you have to scratch your head and give it a second thought

15:06 Yeah, when you think about earthquakes not only earthquakes but also lava and magma volcanoes nothing of these occurrences and events in natural disasters they don't happen deep into our earth. They happen like you said 400 miles or a bit deeper but nothing too extraordinary so actually if you think about it if we have another core that is molten and it's that high in temperature On Earth, there are just two elements that can actually withstand such a high temperature and you wouldn't find them almost anywhere. So we've studied how gravity works more or less we have a vague understanding of it and if Earth is one whole object, a piece of mass that's consistent and there are no cavities in it at all like large cavities like on the whole earth

16:02 then it will collapse on itself under the heat and gravity of this molten core. Because at its most densest part, it would pull everything together inside it and if it's that hot everything would collapse and burn to the ground absolutely become a molten lava ball that would float in outer space. And this is practically Not very far. I mean, if someone has studied physics up to the seventh or eighth grade and they start thinking about this theory pieces would come together and what our governments did and put that into the school curriculum? I think it's good. I will do the same to be fair although I look into conspiracies. I think the general public should have

16:50 we should minimize the panic among the general public, because if they think there's something safe under our feet and they know for sure that some iron bull or whatever. They just need to know so they don't have any concern about their future or their past but yeah a star could definitely shift in towards and if you stand on that other side inside Earth then if you look at the star, it would be around the size of the moon or a bit bigger. Probably if it's bigger, it could be twice as big not something spectacular and that's because we have a distance between... depending on how deep the Earth's crust is and mantle We don't know. We actually don't know about this probably will never know Because the deepest we've dug is around 20 kilometers which is a bit more than

17:45 12 miles. And there is no way to dig that deep into earth and to discover how deep our mantle is, the only thing we can do is to study seismic waves and with the help of seismic waves discover when the medium through which these waves travel change nothing else. We cannot guess what they are, we can only discover their approximate density in correlation with each other But if you don't know what two things are, and both of them are a mystery to you. And you know the correlation between their densities... You can never say what these two things are because you have too many questions to answer and not enough solid proofs. Talking about seismic waves, we have 2 types of waves that I mentioned in my video. I've actually studied geodesy and geology for 2 semesters but

18:43 I wouldn't have it as a strong point in my resume. It's not something i'm proud of when you think about it This is very difficult to explain without images, so I would say that people are listening now to check both seismic waves S and P-type. So they can have a better picture of how these work but practically both of these are observed during earthquakes and P waves can travel through almost anything but change direction depending on the medium they travel through while S-waves cannot travel through atmosphere. They cannot travel through gases, so if you have an Earth that has a hollow pocket in the middle, S waves would not pass through this pocket they would go around it and travel only to the solid ground that surrounds it And this is exactly what happens If you check how S wave passes our Earth You will see this In the beginning The woman who discovered this didn't know

19:44 that S-waves couldn't pass through atmosphere and she thought they just don't pass through something very dense. But later on, they discovered P waves and these waves actually seek the path of least resistance and that's why it did not go to the core because its very dense and the least resistance is through other mediums And thats exactly how we know there is something solid down there but you dont know what it is unless Right, right. We have talked about the seismic data before that when waves are tracked through the Earth they do stop or they have this gap as you say don't travel through atmosphere

20:26 And if we had an iron or molten core and everything was just solid, they would travel right on through. But if there's an empty space of air then that explains why our ability to track these waves stops at a certain point... ...and then I guess continues on the other side? Or is it just this gap where we don't get any readings? And you also mentioned wind patterns, and this is an interesting way to go about it because I hadn't heard anyone break this down. But what do wind pattern show near the polar areas? Oh, this is quite interesting because when I was looking for evidence. I didn't find a lot of info about this one but then i went deep deep into Reddit and I found the post of someone saying that he found the map but it was constantly changing so I dug deeper and I found actual reliable windmaps that we can use that were not modified because usually everything you find around the polls

21:25 It's very censored or modified heavily. Everyone can go on Google Maps and just click on North or South Pole, you will see one huge square piece of censored land that won't be able to see anything and the public opinion in that one what is shared through Wikipedia and the media is there are military operations going there because it's censored because of national security etc. Also, nobody passes around the poles. Iowans don't pass around the poles but the wind maps? Yeah! What i found is that around the poles and we're talking about the geographical poles not the north pole or south pole. Not the magnetic pole but the actual physical. And you would find there's a lot of disturbance in the winds they would form kind of a vortex

22:20 almost, well wind as many of the listeners might know are formed because there are differences in temperature and atmosphere. So when you have a large difference in two areas that are nearby, you would get higher winds and these differences occur mostly because of geographical terrain so if you have a high mountain next to it you could have a very low valley you would always have winds And during the night when the temperature cools down, you would have a stronger wind but it is always going down from the mountain below. Depending on how the temperature changes we have different wind patterns

22:59 And what we see around the poles is that, especially at night you will see these vortices go down because that means there's a lower ground down there. I'm not sure if it's drowned or something else but there is something low and that's how they dive deep into a hole or vortex or something that's not easy to explain I was thinking very skeptically about this. To be fair, I'll be honest here... ...I started this documentary not believing at all in this theory,... ...I just was doing my research and for the sake of entertainment,... ..but midway I was somewhat convinced that it is actually possible. This is one of these theories that nobody can come and tell you hey man, you're crazy! This is impossible! You can actually tell them these things and they will not be able to fight with some scientific argument.

23:47 probably they can pull something out of somewhere, but it won't be very reliable to pilot. And the biggest argument I've heard against this theory is that how would people going down there would be on the opposite side of us? Like imagine you're on one part of the earth on one side and another person is on the other side but they are facing downwards because of gravity so how would that work Well, there's actually a theory in physics that proves this is entirely possible. If you go into... I believe in English it's called toroid shapes? It's a donut-sized, donut form that you can observe and read about these on Wikipedia. There's nothing concealed there because there are no conspiracies there. You can easily read about them and how they work. This is another of my

24:41 approaches towards conspiracies. In Wikipedia, if you write pseudoscience there's a large list of pseudosciences labeled by Wikipedia and I'm testing them one by one with empirical evidence to see if there is actually something that is pseudoscience and most of them actually work it's Orgelon you've mentioned, the malchemical waves... There's also this the power of form as well. You know how forms, the pyramids they have their own power I've made a video about Oregon pyramids but even if you don't create it with organites you can create a pyramid form and it would affect anything below or around it and you can easily test this. And dowsers as well! Do you know what dowsers are? Yes

25:28 Yeah, I've worked with those are some discovery order and they're more than 90% correct. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. It is a weird world in terms of the hollow earth you also say in that documentary that there's over 1000 of the brightest astronomers physicists and mathematicians who were proponents of the hollow earth model before it was shut down and dismissed. And then today it's like you don't even go there because of the ridicule factor People just assume we know what we know. And I wanted to step back to this thing about the military accidentally leaking the truth in 1957, are you referring to that footage that a lot of us have seen? It looks like it's on a satellite or is it a document that they leaked? What was the actual thing? No, it's not an actual footage as just a photo of the North Pole

26:21 Gotcha. And you can see the polar opening? Yeah, and it was in the newspapers back then there's plenty of archives you can browse if you go to the archives of newspapers for 1958 I believe or 57 it was... 57 yeah no it was linked to 57 but I'm not sure where these newspapers which year it was because usually sometimes they're messed up though at once but But you can check it yourself. It was published in the newspapers, there was some form of an outrage in the media as well and it's bad because we cannot find these videos anymore they're taken down but yeah! It was a photo, it wasn't about that footage because there is one weird footage going around and you can see how vortex of water are going I think this one is fake over here Because physically it would not look like that

27:12 All the images you see on the internet, the clickbaity vortex diving deep into the earth. For sure it's physically impossible for this to look like this if you go at the edge... Let's call it an edge because it's not an edge It's actually a big hole but it's so big that you wouldn't know you're passing through anything in your mind and with your eyes You'll just see one flat surface like you see there is right now. It's so huge that you wouldn't be able to perceive any difference. Right, and in terms of what's down there... There are obviously some really epic stories of advanced cultures and rumors that inside is where the UFOs really come from And you note all the cultural myths about beings inside the earth The Hindus, Tibetans Greeks and Native Americans all have this as part of their worldview

28:09 But tell us about some of your favorite references to some sort of advanced civilization on the inside surface. Well, I'll take you a bit back into the past this question and I like it very much. I'm sure most people are aware that most people but most people listening to this podcast are aware that everything is cyclical in civilization and civilization has come and go. And we're not the first region at last state for sure And before us there were many others. There's plenty of evidence of this, there are buildings that we could never imagine to be able to build and if we die today in around 2000 years there wouldn't be a trace left of us probably plastic bottle here and there but in 10 000 years will never find anything related to humans at all. These civilizations would not know how built these stuff

29:04 I recently visited the oldest town in Europe. I'm making a video about it, it's in Bulgaria that's why I visited so quickly to make a video. One of them is Plopdiv and the other is Properikon and Properikon is very strange because a radioactive piece of crystal that was very large around 15 feet was found there and it was producing electricity and it is around 8 000 years old and it was stolen by the Russian military. So I decided to go investigate, and it's very interesting how these people that built this place we don't know who they are And even official history says that we don't know who they are At the beginning of their excavations they thought it was built by Prussians Later Romans and Byzantines built there as well But... They had sewage 8000 years ago long before the Romans' and actually heated households

30:03 with pipes and everything laid down. I took photos and videos of the pipes laid down through stone, they were cut with some form of a laser or something so precise we cannot cut stone right now like this what i'm trying to say here is that How would these people survive for hundreds of thousands of years for civilization to continue? And if something is cyclical, then probably someone survives. We know in the Bible the story of Noah how he survived but is it true? Do we know... Is it possible not only is it true but is it possible to build an ark and survive a flood I would say the chances are very slim. Even with advanced technology, the chances are very slim. It makes much more sense to go deep into it somewhere and hide, wait for the cataclysm to end and come back 200 years ago. Your children or your children's children can come back to the surface. And South America even North America, Indians as well all their stories are how the world ends

31:04 And then someone comes from deeper underground and tells them, guys come over we'll save you. Come with us join us in our caverns and then you'll come back They go and 200 years later they come back to the surface It's unfortunate that these tribes never had any written languages because we would see this story coming up over and over again. But in Hindu as well, we see Nagas there and Nagas live underground and often they communicate with people and even save them on a couple of fronts. So this makes total sense that if there are constant cataclysms every 20 000 years or so then there should be a way to survive and preserve intelligent life Because our current way of surviving

31:48 Bunkers won't save you from this. If a major flood comes in, you will not survive with the bunker. The only thing we can currently do with our level of technology is go to a space station and we don't have access to these. I'm talking about the earth-changing events like the Younger Dryas impact or whatever supposedly killed the dinosaurs because we don't know that for sure but let's say that type of event or ice age and these things occur within cycles, within 24-25 thousand years from what we've seen before in the past. And my theory is whoever survived this probably found a place deep into the earth and hid there whether it was how hard as a hole in the center of the planet I don't know It could have been an enormous cavern hundreds of miles deep down that wouldn't get flooded and destroyed but

32:45 I believe it's entirely possible. And about these civilizations, you said about UFOs? Yeah! When you think about UFOs this is the very strong point that somewhat helps us in our collection of evidence regarding how we work because Earth is surrounded by radiation belt called Van Allen Radiation Belt and if you think about it with our current speed it will take thousands of years to reach the nearest star Even if someone travels with the speed of light, which is somewhat let's say impossible. They would reach from the nearest star to here in about four years and no biological mass can withstand that speed regardless of what they do and I believe if aliens exists and they visited us which probably have

33:36 They either reside deep within Earth for these reasons, because it's very hard to pass through radiation belts. These things are crazy! It's like visiting Chernobyl one week after the event... It's not something that you can withstand and you can withstand it but with a very very heavy arc let's say that surrounds you and protects you and these things cannot fly The only way you can do this is build this in space, because in space you can build something very heavy and make it fly. No problem! The problem with spaceships is building them on the planet and then sending them through space because of the atmosphere if they had ships like this that can pass through the radiation belts these ships must have been built on a planet without an atmosphere

34:23 or a space station. And then if they land here, they would never be able to come back home. They will never be able to leave." So if they reached here at some point, they reached with the space vessel that was built this way and it cannot leave and they must find a place to hide in I believe the safest places within the Hollow Earth or in a cavern somewhere. Yeah, I like it! Well as much as I love Hollow Earth stuff let's move on to some other things like your video According to the ancient Greek texts, people lived before the moon existed. I love that general concept! You mentioned Plutarch's Roman questions and he references the Arcadians—the people before the moon—the pre-lunar people but Native Americans also have a pre-moon myth

35:12 And you say, isn't that curious that both sides of the Atlantic have cultures that preserved a similar story as far out as it seems? Talk to us about your thoughts on this. Well yeah well at first... You know this comes also to what we're studying at school. Supposedly the moon somehow, a large asteroid or something hit Earth, or a proto-planet and both of these separated and then one was formed Well, according to mainstream science it's almost as old as Earth and the ploto planet that hit Earth was even older than Earth. But this doesn't sound right to me and I decided to investigate especially when i heard about these proselynes people that lived before the moon according to Greek texts And there is a near connection here because according to the texts they lived on mountains and they ate acorns from acorn trees from oak trees

36:08 And you know that Zeus is the god of acorn trees, of oak trees. Do you know that also Thor, one of the supreme gods is also in Viking mythology and Norse mythologies. He's also the god of Orcships and another one it's called Perkos. Perkos is one of the oldest gods he's the oldest total European and Asian gods and he's older than Thor, he's older than Zeus It's believed that both of these gods are based on Perkoz Maybe you can write Perkanos on Wikipedia, you can read about him. But he is exactly identical to Zeus and Thor. He's much older, he is a Thracian god and he is also the god of oak trees And these people were believed to eat only acorns and live on mountains. They believe in this God It's very strange because if you think about it People living before the moon

37:06 How would they exist in the first place? Because what we know now is that the moon perfectly balances our planet in a way that it can sustain life. So I thought, if the moon really is one of the reasons why you're alive then how can it be so perfectly placed and so perfectly sized to influence our planet in such a way to preserve life and to nourish it isn't there some form of intelligent design there And I checked a lot of things. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but it seems like the moon if it would have been 5% off from where it is and 5% off in terms of size and mass wouldn't be here at all. This turned one conspiracy into another, one theory to another so

38:03 I reached the conclusion that if people existed before the moon, for them to exist before the moon isn't really possible. But why would these myths exist? Why would they be here? How would we hear about them and read the emanation text? So i was thinking maybe these proselytes people actually existed before the ice age And the Yunger Dryas impact occurred around the end of the Ice Age. I thought that maybe it was a common knowledge that while something impacts Earth, volcanoes tend to erupt sometimes supervolcanoes as well this also changes the climate it obscures the clouds and obscures sky you cannot see the sun or stars You cannot see almost anything. You cannot see light. Day turns into night

38:50 climate disrupts, plants die. And I thought maybe during the last Ice Age when this impact happened maybe super volcanoes erupted as well and it blocked the sun for a lot of years for long period and when these clouds would disappear people would probably label the ones before them as the people who existed before the moon. Well it was debunking this I don't always support the conspiracies that I go into, of course because as I said, I'm skeptic on many of them. But this led me to a bigger conspiracy that is probably the moon is not what it seems. It seems very perfect and almost nothing is perfect at this extent. Right? There's that quote that

39:37 The only explanation for the moon is observational error. I forgot the scientists who pointed that out, but it's just a fun quote about the moon and I liked your idea of of maybe these people lived through the Younger Dryas impact and the sky was all smoke and ash, but I would think that they would be referred to as a people who existed before the sky or before the stars. The constellations are a big part... It's just a very valid point.

40:15 There are several quotes that say the people that existed before the celestial objects were in the sky. The subtle is, before the moon but in Greek they're called the proscenis which means practically before the moon you'll never know it can be an expression of sorts There is some slight chance, of course. People can always think about it and explore more. I haven't put a stamp on this one close to the point. So you're still open to the idea that an advanced race pulled the Moon into its position before the human experiment started? Of course, I'm always open to suggestions. In my Discord actually there are very crazy ideas going around people from all over the world sharing and sometimes they ask me to censor people like what are you speaking about? How is this possible especially when it goes to people speaking about these Archerons in the Prison Planet My Discord members would go crazy and tell me please silence them we don't want to hear about it I will keep them going on unless they're hurting others forcing them into their views

41:17 It's a free place because there are not many free places on the internet that young. You know how it is, and who am I telling you? You have to strike so yeah Well, also in that video I was happy to see you talk about Crow's lunar wave phenomenon too. Crow and I were pretty close for a time he's been on this show maybe a dozen or more times than he started his own podcast and we just haven't talked as much since then but either way You say you've actually observed this yourself But you think it's an atmospheric effect not evidence of a moon hologram right? Yes but that doesn't mean that

41:55 I'm not saying it's an atmospheric event. I'm saying the hologram we might see could possibly affect the whole atmospheric view we have from Earth, but these are two different things because saying it's an atmospheric event would say probably there is a wave of wind or gust in the upper layers of that atmosphere that would make us see what we see, but that's not what I would initially deduce. I would say that it's either this or either the whole sky can be projected as a hologram. Now we're talking! Now we're getting out there. Yeah so it's either one of these two things which one is more probable? I cannot say but we've seen the sky we see for many many years and if it's a projection

42:42 It's an ancient projection for sure, it is not something recent. And why I'm saying it's possible? It's because of the other clip I shared...I haven't seen this one with my own eyes though but it was the same lunar wave you're talking about there's a recording of this happening with Jupiter and two of its moons that are orbiting it and you can see the wave pass through Jupiter and then it passes through one of the moons and through another moon as well in one direction and with a uniform speed. So it for sure affects the whole atmosphere, not the moon itself only because it's been observed on other celestial bodies but I've seen that this clip affect all of these at once and made me believe that something else when it's not related to the moon only. Right on yeah! That makes a lot of sense you know some researchers

43:36 They discount the idea that space is a vacuum. They think it is a medium like an ether or almost something akin to water, not literal H2O but some kind of fluid medium or ether and could either produce waves? It's possible so might that be somewhat in the mix to explain what this is I've heard about this before What they can say through this is If someone tries to calculate it, they would have to study the loss of buoyancy. Which means usually when some object is in water and the volume of this object is actually... The weight of the volume of this object that displaces the water if it's less than the weight that will fit in this volume. If it was consisting of water then it will float

44:33 This is how boats... If you want to make a boat, just make it big enough vessel that will displace a lot of water without it weighting too much and it would float. And if its some form of liquid outside the world then all these planets for them to float and be consistent The volume of them should be the mass that would be calculated based on the volume they have and the density of the objects. It should be lighter than this liquid, at this medium otherwise they would all sink somewhere. I don't know where but it will sink. Well, I get what you're saying but I don't know if we can extrapolate fluid dynamics or water dynamics to something like the ether because that might be more like

45:16 atmosphere, for lack of a better term some kind of etheric you know some kind of more airy medium rather than necessarily a liquid but who knows I just think that we know very little about things outside our atmosphere. But i just wanted to make this point...so you do note that the lunar wave phenomenon happens or is observed more often around solstices and eclipses, and maybe it's just easier to see for some reason. But when I was thinking about this as a potential atmospheric effect...I thought about ritual magic and the importance of timing

45:55 Maybe that's some observable aspect of this notion that magic works better during these same time periods, whether it's some kind of encapsulation to keep our consciousness within this container or the veil becomes thinner so our intentions can go out into the cosmos. I don't know but I thought that was an interesting thread to pull on, that magic is more potent when you use the sky clock or the earth clock rather than the gregorian calendar and that a big part of the reason why people don't believe in magic anymore is they've completely lost. The connection to natural time and these natural cycles, maybe this is like an observable clue this lunar wave that something about our atmosphere this container this little fishbowl ran it weekends or at ripples and those are the moments when

46:49 if we had a potent magical ritual, it would be most effective perhaps. Yeah I've actually seen experience real magic first hand i've done a video on it but it wasn't me who was suffering from a curse but my great uncle he actually passed away from a curse and we found out later with the help of Gypsy woman sage that we found. Yeah, excuse me but that's how we call Roma people here good yeah We actually live nearby with a lot of friends there and it's actually what thankfully my grandmother she was a close friend with the sage Diviner let's say and The diviner owed her a favor And she came to our house and she didn't even enter the door and she was like oh

47:42 This is scary, this is something real happening here. And she just told us to turn around all the pots, the flowerpots in the house and we did it! We found a bundle of some very strange things there like eggs, straw, hair... The bundle was in my great-uncle's room and when I brought it to her she said oh this is very powerful magic that has been done at exactly same time as it should have been done so powerfully. I cannot break it or he will die." He passed away on the very same night And I've heard stories like this from my father and from my grandfather. Initially, I never believed this stuff. I was always very skeptic. I was living in a material world trusting in science but when you see something like this it changes you. If you played computer games and know that there are hidden cheat codes in these computer games... You write something or do something strange in the game itself and it alters reality altogether

48:40 For example, you have to do something very weird that nobody would expect from you and it's going to influence the whole world. Magic works the same way. You pick a coffin from the graveyard, put it in water or acid or something mix with some hair and just wait for exact timing in this celestial object And you can kill someone like this if you know what you're doing. I've dived into remorse, dark magic remorse to study it not because i want to practice it but because i had some crazy experiences and yeah what you were saying about the celestial objects

49:20 I'm not a fan of astrology, although i am sure it works. But I'm not a fan of it because nowadays you would see people on the internet spreading all that false information as if let's say you're a lion or a cancer and that would be your fate and they send these horoscopes that would influence you... And it's much more difficult to predict events based on There's a lot of maths into it for sure. I haven't looked into that much, but in alchemy as well every day of the week is connected to a planet with celestial objects every hour as well every plant every color... I can actually show you something! Give me a sec this is clearly going to be one of the video clips

50:04 So I know that the listeners cannot see it, but I painted this one. Looks like a seal! My father is actually a painter and I've done some painting myself before But this is one of the keys of Solomon And if you read The Lesser Key of Solomon which is the codebook that many hidden societies praise There's all the knowledge into how to manipulate energies And these pentacles, these seals of Solomon in order for it to be effective it has to be a specific car. It has to be done in the specific hour or on a specific day

50:44 depending on which one you want to do. And otherwise, it doesn't hold that much power. Whether I believe in it? I'm not sure but I think it works! So I'll tell you why because even if it doesn't work by itself... You know how placebo works in medicine our minds can do wonders. We can give a cancer patient some miracle, or they believe it's a miracle well they can go into remission and we've seen this study And if you make yourself believe in something and you do it, and the more you study something. You can actually manifest things with your mind that way. Let's say you manifest guilt through this pentacle or this one in case this is for home protection but if you believe in it could happen. I'm not saying anything you believe would happen of course but there's a connection between all these things

51:36 I've been reading some books on meditation and the autobiography of a yogi, Yogananda's book. And he was explaining there how if you don't believe in astrology that doesn't mean it wouldn't affect you but if you believe in it, if you study it would actually have some impact on your life some positive impact on your life. I'm not here yet but I will dive into this at some point I've seen enough in that realm to be a believer but i just think that the minds there are. Magicians occultist who have written books like loan my love to cat it's all inside your head you just have no idea how big your head is thats weird wordy title for a book, what the point is that consciousness is the primary thing so there's all this kind of fluid

52:28 Play between consciousness and physical reality and things like the placebo effect or magic and belief. The universe will sort of adjust to your consciousness or your universe, your observation. You're speaking about... have you read the Reality Transurfing book? Reality Transurfing I'm familiar with it but it's not totally fresh in my mind. I totally recommend it to you! It's absolutely about this topic and I'm gonna do a video on it soon. I just haven't finished the last volume there are five volumes

53:04 But I've done a lot of exploring on consciousness. I have done the Gateway tapes, I've also done a lot of psychedelics and deep meditation. I've reached very altered states of consciousness and I've been fortunate enough to experience both forms of let's say...I don't want to call it an enlightened state because nobody can really define this But I would say it's a state where you feel absolutely connected to anything else. And there are two states you can reach in your consciousness like that, especially through meditation or psychedelics. One of the states is when you feel as if you've become the whole universe and you feel everything else and you forget that your body exists and actually for a few moments or a few hours you're out of your body completely but you're completely conscious at the same time more conscious than you have ever been during your entire life

53:59 And the other one is very scary. The other experience is very scary because your consciousness gets put back somewhere behind you and you can no longer control your body, and the entire universe goes into your body as if possessing you. It starts exploring! You can feel what the universe feels when it's inside of you but you cannot act you become the observer. Usually, the universe is the observer and you're in the one acting or the main protagonist in your story, your universe right? And the universe is just observing you giving you these directions helping you or giving you some misfortune events to build your character, your arc let's say hero protagonist art but when this happens you become the observer and the universe goes into your place, into your shoes

54:51 and you feel like a child. She feels like a child when she's inside of it, starts touching the furniture... Oh wow! This is an amazing feeling that first happened." Really? Yeah because when you think about it, yourself are your universe. You have billions, trillions quadrillions even I don't know how many cells in your body each cell is doing something on its own we're not controlling those cells. We're not controlling even our organs You're not controlling your heart, you cannot stop it. But when you even explore further, you have cells in your body that do their own thing they have their own lives Do they have consciousness? Maybe because they eat, they grow, they die They replace each other, they form clusters They form systems, they work together to achieve common goals And within them there are even other systems So

55:46 Maybe like we exist in this universe, our cells exist the same way in us. Or let's say vice versa. We exist like cells in the universe because the universe itself cannot explore itself Can you explore yourself through these cells? No! They have to do it for you So when you pinch with a needle your arm The cells feel and eventually through your nerves Your brain receives that and is alerted that it hurts And maybe the universe needs us to feel, because if we don't exist and we don't perceive it at a minor level she would never be able to perceive what is happening down here. Because it's so vast that

56:31 It wouldn't know what's going on. And during one of my psychedelic experiences, one of the strongest ones I took nine grams of mushrooms. That was very well prepared. I've done it before not with 9 grams but I prepared the room and prepare special music for me dimmed out the lights lit some candles meditated before that haven't eaten anything cleaned before that hookah bath, dancing rituals and everything. Because I know it's a journey and you have to take it seriously if you want to get that good effect out of them. It should be like a form of no-code ritual let's say regardless the fact you believe in it. If you want to explore your consciousness, you should take it seriously." And I did all that and my journey started and at some point I was not in my body anymore. I was traveling through the universe and for a moment I became a planet

57:29 And at this point, I don't know if you felt when the ego breaks down what that feeling is. But when it breaks down you feel an immense joy throughout your whole body as thousands of orgasms go through your cells to your spirit through your soul and at that point i realized the universe created the ego I read extensive philosophy on Kant, Freud. Well psychoanalysis but Kant especially studies and Carl Jung as well. Carl Jung studies the ego but whatever i've read...I've read thousands of pages on these topics. I never really understood what the ego is

58:10 You can hear someone has a big ego and you think that's an insult, or you can hear someone is egotistical. But the person does not really understand what an ego is until they really feel what it is to destroy that ego for a moment because when you destroy the ego for a moment, you feel everything disconnected and you start to realize what our existence means and why we are here. And in this moment, the universe practically told me I've created the ego. I've created the ego because i was afraid to be alone and imagine if different types of consciousness didn't exist, separated we all are one consciousness but were divided in let's say pockets these pockets are formed through the egos of individual individuals let's say humans not only humans everything that is alive holds some form of an ego aside from plants

59:07 I believe plants don't have an ego. And that's because during one of my trips, I asked the question how do plants feel? Why did they grow? Because in a previous trip of mine, I had this experience where I was asking questions to the subconscious or the collective unconscious and one of the questions was If everyone can access it eventually, the Akashic Records, the collective unconscious, call it as you want. If you can access limitless information through meditation and through posing your ego then if the information itself is limited and if the universe knows everything than one person can become almighty right?

59:49 And why hasn't that happened? Why is not one person ruling everything?" And the universe practically told me, I don't know anything. I've forgotten everything. I do it automatically like your heart pumps. Your heart is pumping but you don't know how it's going on and this just happened. And then I realized it was us humans that who want to put everything in laws, who want to describe absolutely everything with mathematics and the laws of physics. The universe itself is simply functioning and it knows how to do it. And the second something happens, it forgets about it because the only thing that exists is the present moment

1:00:26 Like we're saying time isn't linear, it's not linear at all. And so the universe time doesn't exist because it's all at once and every single moment has its own memory but every other moment doesn't have access to this memory and that's why from this present moment you cannot access limitless information even though some geniuses might have tapped into the south end, like let's say Einstein during his lucid dreaming experiences with Tesla. But he also didn't have access to absolutely everything obviously. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Really interesting stuff man and we also have to talk about alchemy you did a great video on that

1:01:05 And information rich crash course into the real deep end for people who want to check it out. And it's about a lot more than just lead into gold, but on that theme you say gold was transmuted from mercury and 1924 1941 1960 and 1980 by myth and seaboard, but it was too expensive to be worth it. And also in 1404 King Henry IV of England declared an act that made gold making a crime against the crown which is interesting and kind of suggests that it was a real thing But the video is actually titled how alchemists attained eternal youth elaborate on that Oh yeah well

1:01:50 I've always had an interest in alchemy and I've tried some stuff myself, but what interested me most is this herb Melissa that the people in these records have found. I also browse a lot of forums online with people doing experiments with it but I don't remember what I was citing exactly in the video. I have it in my papers here but what I read about was this person, the alchemist who created a potion out of it And this potion would make a person lose his teeth, lose his hair. After a couple of weeks the teeth would come back brand new and the hair would come up as well. This extract is an incense extract in alchemy. The person who did that tested this on their hand at the beginning

1:02:46 and the hen lost all its feathers. After a couple of weeks, it regained them back so he decided to test it on his housewife in the mansion where she was living at the castle. He poured one small drop into the wine of this housewife every day and within two or three weeks she would regain her menstrual cycle She was actually menopause. Right, she was 70 years old and also just with the hen started laying eggs again too not only did it get its feathers so this vitality would come back well I have never tested this one i'm not that old but when I get old for sure i'm gonna try it out! I'll make a video on it to get removed from YouTube yeah that was really interesting I too am fascinated with alchemy and just all the things that have been written

1:03:36 I like this quote from Fulcinelli that you included and apparently his identity is a bit of a mystery too but he said, The secret of alchemy is this. There's a way to manipulate matter and energy to create what modern scientists call a force field This field acts on the observer And puts him in a privileged position In relation To the universe from this position he has access to realities normally hidden from us by time, space matter and energy. This is what we call the great work." And I just love that! It jives with a lot of the stuff we have talked about consciousness and altered states and expanded consciousness these are the sort of things like are you really changing physical reality or is physical reality a manifestation from within anyway?

1:04:26 Oh, for sure. I deeply believe that this is the distinction between materialism and idealists. And materialists believe it was physical reality that first came into place after consciousness followed but this makes absolutely no sense if consciousness is what comes in first. I have another video that speaks about this and its related to addictions If you want to change something in yourself, if you wanna stop smoking You shouldn't just try and stop smoking, and that's it. This smoking stems from something deep within your energy, within your character that stems from your energy. They need to change something in your energy to change this behavior because it manifests energy into existence and takes a physical form into reality

1:05:18 So this is absolutely true. And it's the same thing I'm discovering now in the book, I told you about the reality of transurfing. I actually found it out because honestly, I check my affiliate links very often what they post on my description and Amazon tracks people, tracks my users as well and tells me what they buy And in the Amazon affiliate program, I can see what people buy. And a lot of my viewers have bought this book and I decided to take on it as well. And that's where Transurfing is exactly this that you said. You can choose from various realities because of the theory that we have for multiverse many universes identical or different and endless way of possibilities that you can choose from

1:06:05 And if you can influence your energy in a way to change your material reality, then you can probably choose a different path in life that you've already chosen before or are about to choose depending on your view right now. But there's many occult sciences that go abou this. It is not alchemy only. Anything really you can think of all stems from the consciousness and from an energetic field Nothing changes materially first and energetically later. It's true, even Aleister Crowley and his quest for accessing the Holy Guardian Angel... People who have been on that quest their whole lives still aren't sure if it's something separate or a deep part of the self. And it seems like no matter which branch of esoteric science you're looking at

1:06:59 You'll die wondering, you know was that truly separate or did something from inside of me emerge? So yeah I think that stuff is just really really interesting and you even We have a whole couple of videos about grimoires, and even though we're running out of time here you have talked about the idea that what you read in some of these grimoires are part of the elite belief systems or the satanic cabal's belief systems. Be careful with that topic because who might get attacked? As soon as I published my video on Illuminati it got demonetized and I received a warning from YouTube later on so...

1:07:40 And it's not something groundbreaking either. I shared many of these things you're mentioning now that you can find in Grimoire how for a spell to be effective, for a curse or ritual or practice in general we need to sacrifice something and most cases it is the virgin child that is being torn into pieces and they use the skin as parchment to write curses on Let's no go into detail about this because its quite dark Blood magic sacrifices It's very dark. Yes, well I just would say that you made the comment that it made you wonder where the 460 thousand children who go missing in the US actually go and i too have the same curiosity Man! That is shocking actually And what about the 15 million children who are missing globally each year?

1:08:31 This is a lot more people than anyone could ever imagine. If you can see it mathematically, it's almost 1% of the country's children going missing every single year. One percent! This is an insane amount of people It is show them to and those are people on the record you even talk a little bit about. Oprah in the john of god saga which is no people know about that but john of god, who she was promoting actually had a baby factory where we had women kinda chained up and he was making them birth babies and then ebstein also apparently wanted to do such a thing so these are just two examples who knows how many

1:09:14 forced baby factories there might be in the dark underworld. So you're talking about babies that are counted, we might have a lot of uncounted babies and uh... Oh yeah! On that note it's been a pleasure talking to ya I had a great time No i'm kinda joking there but as we are wrapping up I did want to ask Are there other things that you plan to investigate next? Leave people with something What's the plans for your channel going forward Oh, I'm going to deep dive into MKUltra now. And it's not the usual things you've heard before. It's actually...I'm going to explain how a certain subproject of MKUltra, SubProject 66, I believe it was, changed altogether the whole project and it took MKUltra from influencing individuals influencing the whole population of the United States

1:10:08 and hypnotizing, changing the beliefs. You might have been a victim of MQ Ultra without knowing it." I probably was because I'm deep in pop culture for sure! Yeah and yeah...I am going to explore this next. I am also going to publish the video on the ancient town that I told you about. And then we'll do a mixture of psychedelics studying consciousness exploring the spiritual arts, esoteric as well. Alchemy and visiting archaeological sites that there's something out there that something has been concealed

1:10:48 or that there's a conspiracy behind them, that has taken place. Generally finding out the truth and I try to be on the edge of not getting demonetized or kicked out of YouTube because you know how it is but i will always share whatever people ask me if they asked something as a question after the video what actually believed I'll find a way to transfer my information to them without without costing too much for everyone because some topics are very sensitive, you know. That's true but man I have really enjoyed this hopefully we can do it again maybe a year down the road when you have another collection of videos to discuss

1:11:30 But I just can't believe how good some of your videos are yet. They sit at under a thousand views officially, you know who knows how many views something really has? We didn't even talk about chemtrails or fallen angels or lab grown AI brains so there is a lot on your channel for people to enjoy including... You did mention this but your Orgone Pyramid experiment which is really great to see in action because you see the rotten fruit and the not rotten fruit Just really great. So remind people where to find your stuff? Yeah, I'm DankSuySoCo that's with an X, X-U-I-N S-O K O and you can find me at YouTube. You can just type DankSuySoCo or AtkSuySoCo you're going to find me there. And I'm always trying to be as close to the truth as possible sometimes I would

1:12:26 tell about a conspiracy that I don't believe in and explore the story. And my beliefs will change midway, and you will see that in the video but sometimes I would divide their conspiracy with something that I do not really believe on but it does not mean its true or just my belief But I do thorough research Sometimes maybe for at least half of my videos I have read several books whatever I'm studying before I publish a video. I research for hours, sometimes for many days. The HowlWords video took me at least several months to do. I was writing the script for two weeks straight every day to make a good script on it and the research behind it was months so whenever I go into...I'll try to

1:13:13 discover as much as I can. I always try to discover things that have never been said before, although sometimes i have to mention information that is publicly available because You have to start somewhere. Yeah, yeah if we're not at least trying to do something new what are we doing? So I'm right there with you and i really appreciate people who go down these weird rabbit holes and I love to highlight people who are maybe a little lesser known so I think the audience is really going to love this! And of course I will put the link in the show notes so they can just click there and go right to your YouTube channel but um yeah man either way

1:13:51 Thanks a lot. It was a lot of fun, take care and keep up the good work! Thank you for having me or surely keep in touch. All right. Happy days are here again. There we go. That's the way we like it an interview I very much enjoyed and expect most of you guys to have enjoyed as well. A most likely largely unknown and unexpected guest who can talk about a wide range of stuff. It is our bread and butter And I certainly got a lot of feedback about people not loving the last episode and i get that. I tried to make the best of it and go in directions, I thought would keep it interesting but it is what it is! Let me regurgitate what I said to members in the plus comments section but if you were to go through the whole THC archive and pull out the most mediocre episodes

1:14:49 They're almost always the ones that come from me being too nice to say no thank you to either previous guests, people who ask me enough to wear me down and or publishers that want to get the word out about a new book. Almost every time in my head sometimes when I see those emails come in I think well this is going to be a challenge to make this one good and in the moment I feel up to that challenge Like, I get a little charged from seeing if I can put lipstick on the pig as they say. And then the day of recording comes after reading the full book and digesting all these subsequent material... ...and often I feel like I should just pull out because I know it's weak. I've been doing this to myself for years and really should just stop because it hurts the consistency of the quality. I know what's good and what isn't

1:15:48 Maybe a booker would help create a little barrier there so it wouldn't be me having to say no. But I guess i'm just one of the few guys who doesn't want to outsource that, that's part of the fun for me is picking guests When it comes to publishers sometimes I feel like I have to accept an offer every so often So that door stays open for the ones that I really want And no publisher has ever stated that to me or anything, but it just feels like a good way to maintain those relationships. But all of that is just to say that I'm well aware when I'm putting out something that is just not that great and at least you should take comfort in that awareness, I guess. It usually motivates me to bounce back harder because a podcaster is only as good as his last show and now we have a new last show!

1:16:47 I mentioned that this was going to be all about his Hollow Earth documentary and i'm glad it wasn't. It's better that we broadened it out but, I still appreciate that he tried to get into the deep details work out the actual math and see if it's a model that he could see being possible and syncing up with the descriptions that we have from various people who have claimed to have journeyed inside And wouldn't you know apparently it all checks out I also just really like the narrative presented with those points plotted on the timeline. The military accidentally leaking the polar opening in 1957, then in 1958 NASA was created to convince people to look up and out rather than down and in... And then just a year after that 1959 the Antarctic Treaty was signed between all of the major countries and then most importantly and quite curiously

1:17:47 That's also the year they added the Moulton Core model to the standard national school curriculum? You know that speaks to me. And I have not heard these things put into context together, I've heard about them all separately except maybe the Moulton Core education system thing but stringing them all together makes a fun argument But in general, I had a great time. I'd like to keep Dan in the rotation. I think it would be super great to see if we can't get deeper into some material that often doesn't reach an English-speaking audience. I hadn't tried THAT hard to make it happen in the past but we did have Sylvie A. Ivanova help us with Alexander Koltypin That was fun and I hope this is another avenue to do more of it Maybe Dan has some thoughts on Hedibov or Viktor Rabenikoff

1:18:40 I'm pretty damn sure there's just as much esoterica and high strangeness in the Russian subculture, maybe even some things in Bulgarian that don't usually get out. But I could see this being the start of a fun series! Even if we just talked about a bunch of abduction experiences or occult experiences that are big stories in those cultures but aren't in ours Either way, I guess i'll be keeping an eye on the comment section to see if that's something you guys want. And I'll just cut you off at the pass here but some people do complain how come you only have a comment section for plus members and no place for free members to provide feedback? Well it is my job...and the feedback of paid members means a lot more to me

1:19:28 Sorry to say, but if you stiff a waiter and then you want to talk his ear off about the meal I'm sure he'd probably rather just move on with this day Think about it like that and also not that I'm the biggest podcaster in the world But I am at a level where there's just too much feedback in general It's a good thing but I can't let it influence me too much because I don't really know how many people a particular opinion represents There's no guidebook for being in this position. But I at least know that I have a place where, I don't even have to ask! I just know that if i log on to the website the star ratings and the comments on the site are paid members and I can try to bring them more of what they like and less of what they don't which 90% of the time I can already predict because we've been doing this a long time and people tend to like what I like because that's how these things work but to anyone else

1:20:30 Free listeners, whoever. Go forth and have fun! Make communities for THC if you want to I endorse it all There are several places to discuss THC with other listeners that are free there's the unofficial Facebook group there is a Telegram group and there is a subreddit There was a Discord but it got banned...I can't do much about that So if you feel like you want other people to talk too about these topics advise you to go to those places I just mentioned, but when it comes to me personally... ...I don't think you should enjoy the show any less just because we don't have a one-on-one dialogue. I got kids now. I've got a lot on my plate. I'm trying to bring you good shows and that's really all I can keep up with and I hope you understand! I know most people do but I expect this one to be well liked

1:21:27 As a fan of comedy podcasts, I do get bored quickly with the same 20 guys just going through a rotation and all just doing each other's shows over and over again. And yes sometimes a big name in our world has a new book out and we want to get our interview but other times i'd just like to make sure we highlight something you weren't aware of or weren't expecting And maybe the material isn't 100% new, but it's a new person's perspective on it at least. I mean Dan captured the lunar wave! That's kind of cool He has a different take on what it might be But he's pretty damn sure it isn't a trick of editing It's a real thing and I like that I think calling him The Tim Ferriss Of The Alternative is fair or even an alternative Mythbusters because he does do experimentation

1:22:24 If their goal hadn't always been to just debunk shit and prop up the mainstream narrative, which it was. But anyway if you even half liked this you really should comb through his YouTube channel and see some of the actual experiments he's done I've always liked things like Orgone pyramids And that sort of thing but he proves there is an effect and you can watch it with your own eyes I think we need more of that kind of stuff. So kudos to Dan for making himself that guy! Tell him you liked it if ya did, the PLUS show got even wilder... We talked about the Source Field, what he learned from doing 9 grams of mushrooms and a few of his other journeys into The Abyss

1:23:09 We got into his exploration of the CIA's gateway tapes and the mind states he was able to achieve with them, like the Focus 21 state which is quite wild. Heightened psychic abilities, remote viewing etc., etc.. We talked about the case that Leonardo da Vinci had an abduction experience based on changes in his work after a certain date. Loved that! Dan's also done a fair amount of research into alchemy, so we were able to talk about that kind of thing and gold making and achieving eternal youth. And some stories from the alchemical literature I wasn't aware of all good stuff! If you like the first hour, the second is only wilder and deeper become a plus member if it's worth it to you. I'm trying here

1:23:58 Plus members get five two-hour shows a month instead of just the free first hour. It's easy, click the link at the top of the show notes you can get access to the plus show feed which you can use to listen on any of the same old podcasting apps all the same stuff is true for the Patreon link but you can also listen to Plus on Spotify because they are partners and you can pay through PayPal which some people complain about Plus members also get 10% off in the merch store to check your email for the coupon code when you sign up. The artists I've worked with have made some amazing stuff, I saw a few people at Jim Gale's event this weekend wearing THC shirts thank you for that including the Hollow Earth shirt maybe my favorite one we've ever done

1:24:44 And that said, if you follow me on any of the normal social media platforms you will find video clips from these episodes. I've started putting up a video clip from the free show and one from the plus show so even if you aren't a Plus member you can get...a little taste! Again, free and ad-free So I'm not all bad. Before we end this thing let's talk about upcoming events on The Meetup Calendar November 14th, we have an event in Squim Washington at the Oak Table Cafe. November 16th The Montana Tap House in Whitefish, Montana. November 17th Two Pitchers Brewing in Oakland California. November 18 Minglewood Brewery and Cape Girardeau We are keeping these breweries open And I love it! November 18th

1:25:42 Chateau Lafayette in Ottawa, Ontario is hosting Hireside Chatters. December 2nd it's coming back around the monthly meetup at High Springs Brewing Company in High Springs Florida I met two of the guys from High Springs Brewing at the Jim Gale event cool guys! I appreciate that they are putting themselves out there to bring Hireside Chatters and if you're anywhere near that area I know it would be a good time And then lastly, let me throw out December 3rd. There is an event in Mount Cotton Australia and that's all she wrote just go to higher side meetups dot com to get more details about any of the events I mentioned RSVP because that's good manners and or post an event of your own with that thanks again to Dan and thanks for listening guys take care i've done my part

1:26:39 Your move, Hollow Earth hiders, lunar wave observers and dedicated deep diving psychonauts. You're... fuckin'... to watch out! And I can't stand around and stare at your face! I'm so excited to be on my way to do the job! I ain't gonna take

1:28:57 None of your fooling around I can't stand No one putting me down The ice fell on you Ice in my eyes The high sides fell on you You're not afraid to do the time Yeah, yeah

1:29:55 Hey, hey, oh