Monday, 12 January 2026

BX | Satanic Accelerationism: Digital Predators, 764, & Order Of Nine Angles

A deep dive into the 764 network and Order of Nine Angles reveals how digital predators use gaming platforms to weaponize youth through occult accelerationism.

Satanic Accelerationism764 NetworkOrder of Nine AnglesDigital GroomingMKY CultRICO Charges
By The Higherside Chats Free Show | 1h 17m listen | 19 chapters
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About this episode

Independent investigator BX exposes the rise of Satanic Accelerationism and the 764 network, where digital predators utilize Roblox, Discord, and Telegram to radicalize and exploit American youth. These international networks, often linked to Eastern European actors like the Ukrainian MKY cult, employ extreme grooming tactics including sextortion and "murder points" to incite real-world violence. The investigation highlights how groups like the Order of Nine Angles (O9A) and the Temple of Blood have infiltrated digital subcultures to destabilize Western society through coordinated psychological warfare.

Legal developments reveal the Department of Justice is now applying RICO charges and material support statutes against these provocateurs, as seen in the extradition of Mikhail Chukichvili for a plot involving poisoned candy in New York. BX details the role of Joshua Caleb Sutter, a confirmed FBI informant who led the Temple of Blood, raising questions about the NGO industrial complex and federal honeypots. The research further connects the 2019 El Paso shooter Patrick Wood Crucius to the controversial Timberlawn mental hospital, while tracing the ideological lineage of modern accelerationism back to James Mason, Charles Manson, and David Myatt.

This deep dive into the "True Crime Community" and its schizo-edit culture features BX’s firsthand accounts of de-platforming and the risks of investigating occult national socialism. The episode contrasts the innocence of early internet platforms like STL Punk with today's predatory landscape, offering parental safety strategies to combat digital extortion. BX concludes with a breakdown of the 764 network priorities and the legislative hurdles facing Senator Dick Durbin’s efforts to increase sentencing for online grooming.


CHAPTER 01 / 19 Discussion

Satanic Accelerationism, Digital Grooming Risks for Youth

Independent investigator BX joins the program to discuss the dangers of digital platforms like Discord, Telegram, Roblox, and Minecraft. These spaces are increasingly utilized by predators to exploit vulnerable youth through an ideology known as Satanic Accelerationism. This movement uses violent imagery and manipulation to encourage real-world chaos and destabilize Western society.

satanic accelerationism· bx· discord· telegram· roblox· minecraft· twitch

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00:43 All right, higher side chatters. It's the end of the world as we know it and actually with what I've been getting into this week, can often become victim pools or targets for predators looking to exploit and abuse vulnerable youths. Daycares, scout troops, playgrounds, summer camps, youth groups, Sunday schools, orphanages and adoption agencies have all found themselves letting the foxes in the henhouse many times when these supposedly safe spaces weren't being carefully guarded

01:19 Sometimes they're even set up for these purposes in mind. And in the digital age, many parents and guardians have sadly let their guard down even more assuming that the damage someone can do from a distance is much more limited and there's a concerted effort by the big machine always pushing us to live increasingly digital lives To hide just how dangerous these places are, from social media and communication platforms like Discord and Telegram to gaming communities for kids games like Roblox and Minecraft. And the dangers aren't always what you'd assume in fact sadly they get much more creative Well today's guest goes by BX and she is an independent investigator who started as a Twitch streamer

01:56 and really started to see just first hand how nasty these communities can be. But as she looked deeper into the places these predators and manipulators are congregating, it escalated into an investigation into something much more organized and calculated which she calls Satanic Accelerationism, an ideology behind many different subgroups and nodes on a larger network of honeypot operations determined to exploit vulnerable young people pump them up with satanic and violent imagery, and encourage them to carry out real world violence with the goal of destabilizing the West through chaos. I've been following her work for a while now and have been completely blown away by just how deep and dark it gets so let's get into it! The sundress wearing Satanic accelerationist educator order-of-nine angles exposer and true champion of the people BX welcome to The Higher Side Wow what an introduction I appreciate that you got it that was very good

CHAPTER 02 / 19 Discussion

Nama Cates, Incel Community Research, Federal Honeypot Allegations

Investigator BX details her history with Nama Cates, a former Hollywood actress who transitioned into government-funded political activism regarding the incel community. Cates allegedly worked with NGOs receiving grants from the Department of Homeland Security to study radicalization. BX claims these operations often function as federal honeypots that protect toxic forums to facilitate arrests rather than solving underlying social issues.

nama cates· incels· department of homeland security· federal bureau of investigation· counter-extremism

02:47 Very good. Thank you, I try! All part of the 9 to 5. And man, I'm just so thankful you were willing to do this with me. Your work is really amazing and fearless and they have actually tried to come after you for this stuff which is just crazy the word has to get out as much as it can. Like you've said we see these mass shooters and we wonder exactly where they come from their parents often have jobs that involve psychiatry or government contractors We know vaguely that these people are getting spun up online but But they never really give out the details. Probably on purpose, but I believe the big level jump for you came from interactions with a woman named Nassim Cates who you refer to as a Hollywood actress turned fed adjacent who produced a documentary on incels

03:36 I guess just tell us how a lot of this stuff started for you. Yeah, Nama, Nama Kate's actually she was an ex Hollywood actress who's in a few movies? Yes. She took a weird turn at some point in the like 2020s early 20 twenties and started to kind of get into political activism, I guess. It looks like at some point she kind of joined up like maybe some think tanks kind of you know government funded packs and that seems to be where she started to get into the incel world probably as part of this you know countering violent extremism community which isn't really

04:12 As you know, it's a they take grants from the government. But it's definitely very politically motivated and what I would call like, it's a very corrupt industry full of people who don't really want the truth They want their truth, and that they can put in fancy papers and make everybody think that this is what's going on. So I think that Nama started with good intentions within the incel community but ultimately she was also corrupted by those same individuals It's actually a really long...I haven't really told that full story yet pretty intense. She's still around, she disappeared for a while after having like a schizophrenic meltdown on Twitter and now she's as of recently been coming back on alt accounts on Twitter but she is fully schizo now. She believes that I'm a cross-dressing man who is also an actor who has been hired to gang stalk her family so she has

05:10 She's gone. Like it's not, it's not fake I thought for a while she was just playing an act so that she could disappear but no she seems unfortunately to be actually insane And you know, we don't have to go too deep into Nama Cates. Although I did look into her Hollywood resume and I just thought it was curious because she has a surprising amount of content that these satanic violent people would actually like. I don't know if you've looked into this but lots of plot lines about kidnapping and prostitution just to give people a couple of titles here Sorceress, This Girl's Gone. Eden where a young Korean-American girl is abducted and forced into prostitution by domestic human traffickers Nothing sacred A mother tells her twins that it is their fate to fulfill a secret prophecy The prophecy foretold long ago that they would avenge her death by killing the dark sorcerer Orgy of the Damned about erotic vampires And what stuck out to me was a short called Road To Moloch

CHAPTER 03 / 19 Discussion

DOJ Terrorism Indictments, Material Support for Online Grooming

The Department of Justice has recently begun applying creative legal charges to combat online grooming and domestic terrorism. By classifying the distribution of bomb-making guides and tactical advice as material support, federal prosecutors are escalating charges against provocateurs. Many of these individuals are identified as foreign actors from Eastern Europe attempting to incite violence among American youth.

department of justice· terrorism· material support· bomb making guides· indictments

06:06 about soldiers in Iraq coming face to face with an ancient evil. Moloch comes up a lot in these kinds of conversations, but again it's not really about her specifically but it just seems like there is some kind of template here or pipeline here because the content of the resume certainly seems like the stuff these online communities would be consuming so someone has to be producing it funny that she finds herself on both sides of the fence It is funny and you know when I got really into the incel that was when so like, you know You gave me a pretty good introduction already But I had already been looking into like mass shootings. Really? That was my big interest at the time On on the other hand, I'd also already exposed some child predator networks on like twitch in YouTube So I so I started to see pretty

06:53 pretty soon how those online communities merged and used the same tactics to sexually exploit kids as they do to groom and provoke kids, to go commit terrorism. And the reason that I found Nama in the first place is because she was involved with this online community of incels, these involuntarily celibate young men who've basically been black and rebellion society, you know collapse the West. Why not? Why not go murder a bunch of women because you know that's the only way to actually get your message out kind of so I started to see these groomers in the incel forum made sense to me like oh yeah they would see this group of dejected sexually frustrated young men and target them because they're vulnerable um you know they're already at rock bottom

07:57 And so when I started talking to Nam about it, I saw that she knew a whole lot about this subject of accelerationism. And yet she really did seem to be defending that forum quite a bit until one day she just basically told me well we want it to stay up as a Fed honeypot which to me now I understand what she meant by that wasn't the Feds are grooming kids in there It's more like they're trying to get all the fish in a barrel So that they instead of shutting it down and getting these kids help and you know because the whole point of her You know that the NGOs that she worked for was supposed to be D radicalization And in trying to reintegrate these people into productive members of society But it seemed like instead they were just protecting this forum full of dejected young men so that they could make arrests I don't like that idea. I would rather solve the problem right who are these people?

08:51 You know, and of course when I first started this to me it was like...I'm the same as most people who are really distrustful of the government and wondering if it could be possible that these were like feds that were in there provoking people. But over time what I found was that I could find out who these people were! And I was able to actually identify some of these provocateurs by large they were foreign I would say foreign terrorists from places like Eastern Europe, our foreign allies who are trying to rile up these kids to go commit terror attacks. So the ones that I were able to identify all pretty much ended up being

09:29 either foreign or domestic terrorists, for lack of a better word. And I just didn't understand why the government would focus on the kids who were being groomed where they're not trying to stop these higher level people which immediately led my brain to start conspiracy spinning you know? However as it turns out over the course of a couple years we started seeing those people getting arrested They made a couple of really big arrests of these people I would consider, you know, provocateurs. And and you know, I started to understand the bit of the nuance behind it especially in the US being that we have a really high bar for freedom of speech and it's technically not illegal to go groom a kid to commit a shooting unless you've provided some kind of material support which in my opinion there was a lot of evidence of that in some of these cases right? As we saw recent DOJ indictment

10:25 They've been starting to indict these guys for terrorism offenses. And one of the ways they're doing that is by considering even like information and advice to be material support if they're giving them a bomb making guide, for example, that is material support. And so we're seeing actually this new DOJ... We didn't see this two years ago I will say that but this DOJ were seeing them trying to apply a lot more creative charges to escalate it to terrorism which is good I think we're making progress. It's been a long, it's been a long road. Well you are right that it is a slippery slope and it is nuanced if I go back to one of my early interviews, it was with the journalist named Trevor Aronson who wrote a book called

CHAPTER 04 / 19 Discussion

NGO Industrial Complex, FBI Incompetence vs Orchestration

The "NGO industrial complex" describes a system where organizations receive government grants to prevent terrorism but lack the incentive to solve the problem permanently. While many conspiracy theorists believe the FBI orchestrates every mass violence event, BX argues that the agency often suffers from extreme incompetence and lack of communication between field offices. This systemic failure allows radical communities to persist as long-term research subjects for funded entities.

fbi· ngo industrial complex· grant fraud· domestic terrorism· colin powell

11:09 The FBI's manufactured war on terror and he would find all these cases even like 10 years ago where when he traced back the individual who was doing the mass violence or who has stopped from mass violence. It seemed like the FBI was setting people up at least In some cases, setting them up to stop them to then be like, look our budgets are justified. Our jobs are justified and some people even suggested that there's like a six to eight month cycle. Like when you get into the nuances of the business, there's always sometimes these patterns underneath where there's just like logistics or part of the job. And so he would find a pattern of every so often like clockwork, there'd be a new case

11:50 And sometimes they don't stop the people. Sometimes the people get a few shots off before the FBI really gets them, so it does get kind of crazy. And especially for like Al-Qaeda and with these right wing extremists from like the PatCon era we definitely have seen a lot I mean there's no reason for us to just blindly trust anything that any of our government institutions tell us I would say, you know the FBI definitely but also just like that You know a lot of people focus on the FBI and pretend like Homeland Security doesn't exist whereas DHS is actually the department that's giving all these grants to these NGOs Like the one that nama Cates was a part of which in my opinion was not doing anything to significantly prevent anything from happening. In fact

12:39 it really did seem like it was just there. I actually coined, I don't think I coined this term. I think that it was Colin Powell or something who coined this term but it's the NGO industrial complex. It really is what it is you have these groups that are set up to make money from the government, get grants from the government to prevent terrorism. But if they prevent terrorism too well then they have no reason to exist and continue to make money. And so it seems like they set these things up like that. Like to me this is what the incel forum was. It was a honeypot that was being kind of promoted... I even found

13:19 Man, my studies into the incel stuff really didn't get enough attention honestly. Because what I found there was like significant government grant fraud in my opinion Almost like these researchers were intentionally putting out biased reports and incorrect reports to facilitate this look at how good of a job we're doing, you know? So that they could continue to get money year after year. And in the meantime, you still have this community of young men that are not actually helping. It's almost like putting them there as lab rats to study and then you're making strategic tips on certain individuals, and oh look at these arrests we're making.

14:00 but you're not trying to solve the underlying problem because there's no incentive to do that. You lose all your funding." I really just feel like that's something that's underexplored in, like, the conspiracy community because we have a tendency to just be like, The FBI is orchestrating all of these things and over the years...I've worked with the FBI quite a bit as a private citizen. I used to be one of those people where the FBI was orchestrating everything and now i'm like holy shit The FBI has no clue what's going on. Like they're actually completely incompetent and I think that the idea of them on a wide scale orchestrating something like nefarious is absurd because they don't even, you know, they didn't even talk to each other at field offices Of course you have the issues with like, you know crooked handlers and crooked agents if you do crooked things

CHAPTER 05 / 19 Discussion

Order of Nine Angles, David Myatt, National Socialist Occultism

The Order of Nine Angles (O9A) is a UK-based occult organization founded by David Myatt in the 1960s to promote National Socialism through sinister rituals. The group's ideology involves opening "stargates" to dark gods through chaotic acts intended to usher in a galactic imperium. Myatt is characterized as a propagandist who used the internet to spread "nextions" or cells globally, focusing on accelerationism and political infiltration.

order of nine angles· david myatt· national socialism· gladio· occultism

14:52 I agree. So yes, this is all great setup. Let's get a little deeper into the ideology of satanic accelerationism. This is aimed at destabilizing the West through chaotic violence and this is the ideology that fuels a lot of these actual groups that you're working to expose and break up. The three that you mentioned most often, at least in your expose that I watched, the five parts are the order of nine angles, which we've talked about before a little bit but not really in this digital space and then 764 and no lives matter. You know, these kinds of groups can be spun up a thousand times it's infinite how many groups can be spun up and put on telegram or suck people in from discord but these three just to get people started as a guide template for how this all happens tell us about these three groups and how they connect man I could probably will eventually write a book on this

15:52 this singular topic. But you know, so the Order of Nine Angles just as a recap is a UK based what was founded in the UK back in the 90s 1960s I think by man named David Myatt he was a long term national socialist and the UK around that time You know, you mentioned kind of that facilitation of chaos and stuff. And the time that Mayotte was doing all this was really around like the Gladio era, right? This post-war era where the National Socialists were trying to gain a foothold in various European countries

16:29 like the UK. And you had, you know this guy who was kind of feeling like he would never get anywhere with his national socialism activism and then it kind of combines with the late 60s in the rise of apocalyptic death cults. This is my theory. Of course I preface all this by saying that There's not a lot of good information about the cult. A lot of even the official stuff that's come out, if you dig into it, you realize that their primary sources were actually David Myatt and as we know he is a propagandist and liar frankly. You know, and he was really nerdy. And you're like this guy's not a sinister spooky demon right? He's just a weirdo from the UK what he did was he tried to co-opt this like death cult movement to build a cult to brainwash people into fighting for national socialism This was his idea

17:37 right to get people to believe in this idea that there's dark gods and stargates and there's a causal realm where they live, the causal realm where we live. And by doing these sinister rituals which really has to do you know he's like We can do sinister evil rituals to open up the star gates, let the dark gods through so that they will eventually usher in the apocalypse and then we'll be the only ones who survive obviously. And we'll go on to colonize the Milky Way as a galactic imperium right? It's so corny it is so corny and honestly when you really get into it it's all very derivative of other satanic movements that have been around there's nothing really that original about it

18:19 But then he gets into like, well how do we do these sinister acts? We infiltrate political organizations and try to influence them towards national socialism. And it becomes really obvious what he's doing right that he's trying to find these edgy satanic cultist type of people and trying to get them to infiltrate political movements. To me, it's pretty obvious that this was never something that Mayak believed in even though he still online today on his alt accounts like talking about the philosophic a salepicus or whatever and lab bring those mythological and being really nerdy and annoying. And then also denying that it's him I'll tweet he'll tweet to me right now be like Mr. My

19:01 like respectfully, can I ask this question such and such? And he'll be like thank you for the polite question. But i am not he! It's so cheesy dude these guys are cornwalls So that's the order of nine angles it really didn't take off until the age of the internet though before or the internet it was really kind of like him mailing out flyers and propaganda just doing it old-fashioned way But once he started to use the internet, it really took off. He started to build followers and what they call nextions all over the world and the idea spread. The idea really was... It did become more of like a siege accelerationism idea, right? The idea of promoting chaos in committing terror attacks in order to advance political narrative or even setting up a terror attack as false flag

19:55 to try to influence political narratives. And so that's what the cult is, it's not... I don't want to, I don't even like calling it a satanic cult because you know there are real satanic cults out there and i feel like this is just a farce uh... it's a force for political activism that's what its always been yes and i know asked about the other two but i just wanted to jump into say william ramsey who has a podcast he actually thinks that the order of nine angles is behind us smiley face killings where these uh... young able-bodied guys in college were Drunk walking home and they'd end up dead in a river as if someone was like watching them looking for the one who's stumbling. And then like you smash him on the head and thrown him in the river and drawn a smiley face with spray paint or something who knows but

CHAPTER 06 / 19 Discussion

Digital Blackmail Tactics, Murder Points, Calm Cyber Network

Predatory networks use "sextortion" and blackmail to force children into performing acts of self-harm or violence, such as carving logos into their skin. Some groups implement "murder points" systems to maintain membership, gamifying real-world aggression. These activities are often linked to a broad cyber-criminal network known as "Calm," which engages in hacking, wire fraud, and child exploitation.

blackmail· self-harm· calm network· bitcoin theft· extortion

20:44 Man, so I do want to get into the other two groups but i just also want to before we get too far down the line ask you about what these groups and individuals even in some cases are doing. Sometimes they're just power hungry incels who have no power in their regular life so they're going on roadblocks Chats to suck kids into dark stuff. So we've all seen to catch a predator and I think a lot of parents There's probably parents who are fans of this show and have listened to it forever who aren't bad aren't paying enough attention to what's going on in their own home. They're thinking about it out there, the big conspiracy and all this like you were saying I was just kind of shocked at how deep it goes because it isn't just oh, I'm a pedo trying to meet your kid online trying to coax them out of the house It actually is like they're having them

21:34 Send nude photos and stuff or compromising material that which then can be used as blackmail to say now I want you to kill your family dog, or i'm gonna send this to your parents or send it to your school. And its getting really crazy so they have them Send this material or they'll have them prove their allegiance through self-harm and cutting and carving names and logos into their skin. They will in some cases you've mentioned, they'll get into this group and then they'll say okay You need to accumulate a hundred murder points every month to stay in the group or we'll kick you out. And that can be just random acts of violence and it's not a hundred murders, obviously but it scales up to that so and these are things that people can be doing to your children without ever meeting them in a physical space. And then they make them feel like their heroes in an ARG sometimes these kids don't even think it's real which is kind of where I

22:30 I'm going all over the place, but that's where I think kind of psychiatry comes into it. You find these kids that are on certain medications that make them have a distorted reality. It really is a perfect storm of terrible shit But talk to us about some of the manipulations that actually happen without ever, ever meeting your kid and physical space. So you've touched on now you're not off base at all. You touched on seven six four in the NLM kind of stuff I can tie that into this order right angle stuff too just to continue on down that road so the order of nine angles in the age of the internet they got a lot more prolific

23:07 And again, you know the idea that he's put out there is evil. We have to create evil acts in order to open these stargates and the more evil the better The more sinister the better and also it's better if you get other people to do it for you Because this is really the satanic mindset of manipulation, right? About getting other people to do your dirty work for you. And it was also a way for him to kind of cover the cult's ass so that they wouldn't get in too much trouble over time and in an age of the internet You know, you have like rotten calm yet the early Internet which is where people are being exposed really awful stuff and in this group kind of metastasized that increased than evil until eventually We come to modern day

23:51 or like let's say back in 2018, 2019 you had all of these groups kind of congregating in these far right spaces. that were kind of worshipping mass killers, worshipping Dylann Roof. You had the Bull Patrol and Team Rocket in these kinds of really nasty online spaces that eventually merged into this group called Calm. It's a big broad cyber criminal network called Calm short for community and there are people in here who do hacking Bitcoin theft wire fraud extortion, child pornography, child sexual exploitation. And there's all these different tentacles of calm right but we call it all the same thing so back then in like that you know the late 2010s We saw a few of these people from the order of nine angles who had gotten really extreme and they were into cutting themselves and getting other people to cut themselves in satanic rituals You know their pedophiles They were doing stuff with children

24:46 This is kind of where the modern 09A split off from the older 09A that was still led by Myatt. horrific what his cult had become. However, he's still completely to blame for it! You know as much as he wants to get on Twitter and well this isn't the tradition and you know well bro this is what you built this is the cult that you've built. You wanted it evil in here it is its evil now and what are you gonna do about it right? Those early Niners who were in this calm space and ended these like you know these gore self-harm mass shooting communities ended up

CHAPTER 07 / 19 Discussion

Roblox and Discord Grooming, 764 Network Priorities

The 764 network has become a top priority for the FBI due to its international reach and aggressive grooming tactics on platforms like Roblox and Discord. Predators desensitize children using gore and child pornography before turning them into either victims of extortion or abusers themselves. Cases have emerged involving children as young as 12 participating in the extortion of their peers.

roblox· discord· 764 network· fbi· child exploitation

25:23 kind of creating these precursor groups to what we call 764 network. The 764 network now is one of it's an international threat to kids, is one of the FBI biggest priorities now which is crazy to me because I would never have thought this coming two years ago. Two years ago We were like where's the FBI? Oh my god! And now it's everywhere which is really great It's very reassuring they really are putting these guys in jail like fast But like you were saying, what they found is that they can find kids in these online communities and they love to use messaging apps like Discord to groom your kid. And they love to use apps that are made for kids, like Minecraft was one of the favorites but now I think Roblox is definitely their favorite.

26:07 People don't realize that when you put your kid on Roblox, what they're actually doing is going to a digital town and talking to strangers. There's no difference between letting your kids talk to strangers online unsupervised versus sending them to downtown area and saying go talk to strangers right? You know so what these guys will do is they'll find their kid on Roblox They'll get to be their friends, they'll expose them to some nasty content. They will invite them into a Discord server where they will bombard them with gore and child pornography and other awful stuff like mass shooting stuff

26:42 to desensitize them, that they're desensitizing them to all this violent awful stuff. And then they'll eventually you know turn them into a victim either a victim of extortion or sometimes they'll turn them into abusers so I think that one thing we don't talk about enough here is Not only could your kid be extorted, sex-torted and sexually exploited but they could be being groomed to be an abuser themselves. We've seen kids as young as 12 or 13 years old extorting other kids in these groups not to mention the mass shooting thing you know I've spoken to mass shooters parents You know i've spoken to the parents of some of these kids who have been arrested for

CHAPTER 08 / 19 Discussion

Eastern European Influence, Azov Battalion, MKY Cult

Satanic accelerationist groups show significant influence from Eastern Europe, specifically Ukraine and Russia, where neo-Nazi ideologies merge with O9A occultism. The MKY, a Ukrainian-based cult, has been linked to intelligence operations and attempts to recruit youth for terror attacks. These actors often prioritize the collapse of Western society over the specific outcomes of the ongoing regional war.

ukraine· russia· azov battalion· mky· eastern europe

27:19 Blackmailing other kids and it's all the same story. We had no idea what he was doing online so The NLM stuff is interesting because you know I am kind of the person who put a lot of research out on NLM that I don't think was out before In LM, I think has a lot Eastern European influence So if you go back to the Order of Nine Angles, David Myatt Joshua Sutter and all of these key figures for the Order of Nine Angels have an obsession with Ukraine. They're very pro-Ukraine One of the reasons it's been put out there is because they were trying to create an atom wafer

27:57 division type of extremist group along the Azov battalion, kind of using that as a feeder. It's really complicated but that's where the Eastern European angle comes in. The Eastern European Nazis really did take to the Order of Nine Angles stuff and there has been a lot fusion there so there is actually a lot of Eastern European connections at the Order of Nine Angels and not just in Ukraine but Russia as well. And you see the Ukraine-Russia influence coming into these spaces very heavily way more so than any other foreign government, which is very troubling because there's a lot of people in Russia that could use this group to commit terror attacks. But also you might be surprised at the way that Ukrainians and Russians can work together towards the goal of national socialism. In fact, a lot of these communities from Eastern Europe they really don't care

28:48 About the war there's like a slogan that says no infighting among whites. Their goal is really accelerationism, they want the collapse of society and so they're gonna work together and don't care what's going on In fact I'm very cautious about my research there because i got a little too close to the MKY which is the Ukrainian-based, ordered by an angle adjacent satanic accelerationist cult. The founder of that group started trying to message me on YouTube and stuff from a Ukrainian prison. Wow! It got a little weird man. I was like at this point we're definitely dealing with some intelligence stuff too? I don't want to deal with Ukraine Russian intelligence ops. Shit's too confusing and I don't want

CHAPTER 09 / 19 Discussion

Joshua Caleb Sutter, Temple of Blood, FBI Informant Controversy

Joshua Caleb Sutter, founder of the U.S. O9A nexion "Temple of Blood," was exposed in court records as a long-term FBI informant. Despite his federal ties, BX argues Sutter is a genuine occult zealot who used his position to further his own extremist goals while occasionally turning in rivals. His involvement with the Atomwaffen Division highlights the murky relationship between federal handlers and radical leaders.

joshua caleb sutter· temple of blood· atomwaffen division· fbi informant· occultism

29:34 get murdered. So, but you know that influence is also definitely there so that's another vector where we see these foreign actors using kids for terrorism. So when it comes to the intelligence stuff...so David Myatt started this Order of Nine Angles but you talk about this guy Joshua Caleb Setter who was the founder of the US chapter or the U.S NXIVN of O9A And this guy was sort of exposed as an informant, right? Yeah. Not sort of. I mean he was exposed in court records So when this happened in Sutter, you know, I don't know how deep you've gone into the DPRK North Korea Apocalypse death cult shit that he was into but and I and I you know, I've had my interactions with Sutter. Okay? My conclusion is that he is an ideological zealot He is a lifelong

30:32 wannabe cult leader that he has a personal interest in the occult based on people I've spoken to who do know him, you know have all sworn up and down that this guy has like a textbook encyclopedia knowledge of the occult not something you would expect about an informant who was just You know in there to rustle feathers get people arrested. I think that Sutter And you know, we also know that he was part of the Order of Nine Angles. We recently found out that he was part of the Order of Nine Angels and friends with David Myatt way before he was an informant so This is a guy who really is a lifelong occultist, and he's a lifelong cult leader. And he really believes in evil and accelerationism so I don't like giving...I've had tons of disagreements with other people about this which is fine. It's healthy discourse

31:26 But in my opinion, Sutter is doing a lot of this for himself. I don't want to give him a pass as being like oh he was doing it for the feds? I don't think so! I think that he created all of this evil shit for himself and i think that uh...he took an opportunity whenever you know there was an opportunity to make money by throwing some people he didn't like under the bus that he took those opportunities possibly with the help of a corrupt handler who I would hope one day would be exposed for what they were allowing. It was really a travesty that any of that was allowed again, I don't think it's something like systemic and organized and you know, I think that it was probably Sutter and one or two other people in the Bureau who were bad news That said they did arrest the Atomwaffen guys And you know people are like well he was a fed Well yeah but like he did arrest the atomwaffen guys those guys were fucking bad You know? Yeah! I'm not mad that they're arrested however

32:19 Sutter's continued meandering in the space after being exposed as an informant was concerning. Like, you know at this point bro you're burned get out of here what are you doing? Why are you creating new cults why is the FBI even allowing this I think to an extent You know at this point he's been burned so i doubt that He's still working for The Feds but I Still think we deserve answers and I don't Think We'll ever get them because The FBI Is very tight-lipped about That stuff So unless there's some kind of like landmark FOIA legal case that comes out down the road, I kinda doubt we'll ever get solid answers on how much involvement they had. However, I will say

CHAPTER 10 / 19 Discussion

Niner Manipulation Tactics, Whitey Bulger Comparison

Members of the Order of Nine Angles, known as "Niners," utilize polite and strategic manipulation to influence investigators and public perception. They often push the narrative that certain violent subgroups are federal honeypots to distance the core organization from criminal prosecution. This dynamic is compared to the Whitey Bulger case, where a criminal leader was protected by corrupt handlers while eliminating his competition.

whitey bulger· manipulation· temple of blood· propaganda· fbi

33:00 There is one thing that gets pushed around a lot saying that Joshua Sutter's Nexian, which was called the Temple of Blood was a federal honeypot operation. I don't believe that at all! I believe that Sutter was 100% doing that for his own evil purposes it might have been exploited like i said it might have been exploited by him and in the feds at one point The reason that I stopped believing that... It's actually kind of funny So when I started to put out my videos, especially my part one where I exposed this stuff. The Niner started to message me. They started to follow me, they started kind of stalking around the internet. They started trying to badger me and unlike the 764 guys who will just threaten to kill and rape your entire family burn your house down. The Niners are very strategic in polite and manipulative. And so they'll come to you and they'll try to gain your favor and your trust.

33:58 Nudge you in a certain direction, right? And one of those directions that they consistently tried to nudge me was this idea that Temple of Blood is a honeypot and we have nothing to do with it. And again That's because these classic Niners who are still up who still kind of You know are led by my it don't want to be connected to the temple of blood which was connected the seven six four stuff They don't even even the evil satanic cultists don't want anything to do with that, right Right? So they're trying to manipulate this narrative that it's all a fed honeypot. We had nothing to do with it, so kind of give David Mayad an out when really we're not going to give that guy and out this is his cult that he started right? Does that make sense? It became kind of a bit of propaganda And I discovered this not only because they kept telling me over and over and over and I'm like well I'm not gonna trust what you guys are saying now I'm like inclined to believe the opposite right

34:50 But also because I started to really look into the evidence behind it and find that they'd been lying about specific things to make it seem more logical. Like for example, they would hide the fact that Sutter knew Mayotte back in the 90s. They would try to make it seem like he infiltrated and when you would press them on these things their narrative starts to fall apart so that's my opinion I've had a lot of really great discussions with a lot of other really knowledgeable people about this So there are no hard feelings if people disagree This is just me going off my really extensive research! You know?

35:29 And I get a lot of randoms on the internet too who are like, well you have a blind spot. Yeah, I disagree with you just because and I'm like well you don't know what you're talking about though so... Like I'll respect other people who are really deep into this research and have a good conversation but I don't care what random idiots on Twitter think Right, you know what makes me kind of skeptical so it is murky and exploitation for sure there can be these guys who are narcissists who are self motivated and then that can be kinda steered in exploited from a higher level. There could be all kinds of puppet masters and yeah maybe it isn't a centralized organized thing but some dark individuals put themselves into positions of power

36:08 And then, you know have a little fun what they consider fun with these individuals and you know it's like the mob. The rest of the mob it's like he only it's you only like you use certain guys to arrest the guys below and then you arrest all these guys below but let these guys go free I think there could be something like that going on. But I've said for a long time that I think Sutter could easily be another Whitey Bulger situation That's exactly what I think it is right? But when you look into what happened with Whitey Bulger, ultimately like the... His handlers got it eventually got in hot water and the whole thing was exposed. I would hope that something like that would happen under the administration of transparency, but we've all seen how that's panned out so far just black bars all over the page Thanks a lot FBI Yes And one one of the things that makes me really sketched out about this situation is that when we have these mass shooters and you've noted this in your work too they quickly

CHAPTER 11 / 19 Discussion

Patrick Wood Crucius, Timberlawn Mental Hospital, El Paso Shooting

The 2019 El Paso Walmart shooter, Patrick Wood Crucius, is linked to the Timberlawn mental hospital in Dallas through his father's employment there. Timberlawn, which was shut down following reports of patient abuse, was known for unconventional treatments involving hypnosis and multiple personality disorders. Crucius's father reportedly authored a book on transcendental meditation and "Christ consciousness" shortly before the massacre.

patrick wood crucius· timberlawn· colin ross· el paso· walmart

37:06 Authorities quickly start scrubbing their online presence and it's like well. Why are you doing that? You know what's interesting about that is that it's not the authorities to do that It's a social media companies that do that they have an incentive to your companies have policies To remove under there TOS right, but they also present okay so required after they receive a subpoena for the information. They're required to preserve that information, but what they will do is that they will remove the content and then quarantine it in an area where only law enforcement can see it. And they do that cover their own asses. I can say that because when I first started all of this work like looking into the Highland Park mass shooting which was like my whale, like the one that really

37:52 continues to bother me to this day. I have a very close relationship with the shooter's dad yet, I really still think that there was something fishy behind that one and let sorry, let me jump in on that too because I wanted to get this in the first hour cause long time listeners will be interested but this creeped me out because there's a name here that uh, I've interviewed in the past so this comes from your writing. This is your um how you got into it post that you wrote but you say it was early 2022 and the most recent mass shooting had been committed by 21 year old Patrick Wood Cruces, is that how you say his name? Oh that one. That was the El Paso Walmart shooting Okay sorry so there are so many goddamn shootings these days I used to follow them all but now i can't keep them straight So this is not- That was also really an interesting one though But this is in the same post and you're talking about This is the one where a guy went into a Walmart in El Paso Texas And killed 23 people left behind his manifestos suggesting he used The Christ Church New Zealand shooting as a template for his massacre

38:52 The media was quick to label this case a right-wing terror event, but my deep dive of the incident revealed a plethora of unreported details about his life. I found for example that his dad worked for a mental hospital in Dallas Texas called Timberlawn that was notorious for its unconventional treatment of people with multiple personality disorders their specialty hypnosis caruses dads a I mean, wow. So I interviewed Dr. Colin Ross in 2017 on this very show about MKUltra and then- Oh man! I don't even wanna...I don't know if i want to watch it but Timberland was shut...Timberlawn was shut down just a year later after a patient raped a 13 year old girl patient and he was the head of this Timberlawn place? Yeah so Timberlaw is such a cool rabbit hole that I haven't really

40:00 written about, maybe I should. Timberlawn is so crazy because if you go back through its history several mass shooters have been connected to it over the years in fact, I'm sure you're familiar with the Pearl Jam song Jeremy? Oh yeah! That song was based on a real person who actually did that A young boy who actually did that committed suicide in front of his classmates and that boy was also connected to Timberlaw Wow. Yeah, it was also connected to a situation where a kid who was connected to Ted Cruz I think...Ted Cruz is like his great uncle or some shit? It's like years and years ago there wasn't tech-I don't want him to speak it was one of those politicians though he actually killed the teacher in shot another person well this kid ended up uh he went to school in Austin Texas um he ended up going to Timberlawn and then getting released under a different identity

40:54 And so there's like this whole Reddit thread I found where people who went to his high school with him were like, hey I found this guy on Facebook and this is the kid that shot up our school when I was in kid. There's this crazy history where he got adopted by a psychiatrist and basically they didn't do anything to him just had a new life! This is wild what is going on here? Timberlawn got shut down Just recently, just in the last few years it was one of the oldest private institutions this side of Mississippi. It had been around since 1800s for decades it had been having issues with sexual predators with exploitation and also dangerous conditions where people have died in their care

41:39 And so there were groups lobbying to shut it down. And they finally did shut it down a few years ago, but yeah that's where Colin Ross worked and his dad Crucious' dad who worked there he is insane! He actually wrote a book and I bought on Amazon and read it don't recommend by the way but he was into this like transcendental meditation thing, right? But you know where he would like go to Christ consciousness and meditating in the stars. And he like basically abandoned his son and family to go do this transcendental meditation thing. Wow! Then you know he starts talking about going getting Korean foot rubs and how it would elevate him to Christ consciousness. Like it's bizarre but the reason I even mention it is because there

42:25 There's this part in it where he talks about after his divorce, he found himself wandering a Walmart in a fugue state. And got arrested because he was wandering Walmart in an altered conscious state. And he released his book a few years before his kid shot up at Walmart! I was like, there's just so much interesting shit here. Yeah, that is something... So I wanted to get into some other cases There are some weird things It's always like psychiatry is where I always look and then also what do the parents do for work? They tend to be Military contractors or contractor adjacent. And, uh, it's yeah, I mean you can check a couple of boxes but what I wanted to do while we still have time in this first hour is maybe you can give us just maybe rapid fire some shooters that we can say were definitely shepherded along by these groups. We're talking about there's a broader movement too. You know? Like like I talked about the bowl patrol that worships like Dylan roof and Columbine are

CHAPTER 12 / 19 Discussion

TCC Community, Mass Killer Edits, 764 Linked Shooters

The "True Crime Community" (TCC) on social media glorifies mass killers through "schizo edits" and anime-style tributes to desensitize youth. Peyton Gendron, the Buffalo grocery store shooter, was identified as a member of a 764 precursor group called CVLT. Other recent school shooters, including those at Evergreen High School and Antioch High School, have been explicitly linked to these satanic networks.

tcc· peyton gendron· buffalo shooting· anime edits· 764 network

43:26 or like Dylan Roof and the Far-Right Shooters. Then there's a group that worship Columbine, this is a group we call TCC. It's similar to... I mean it's connected to Calm but recently we've been seeing them merge so this is where you see all the... Have you ever seen some people who put up on Twitter account or an account on Pinterest or something where they're sharing mass killer edits? And kind of worshipping you know, the Columbine killers like woo kind of stuff. Anime style weird community is kind of adjacent to this stuff too. Yeah so when your if your kid is idolizing mass killers you have a problem that is like the biggest red flag I can tell anyone You need to go immediately stop whatever part of community or kit is online because they really do brainwash kids with schizo edit

44:16 like weird cat-cut edit music stuff to try to get them to fantasize and glorify these killers so they could do it themselves. As far as connecting the satanic accelerationism though, we definitely saw a lot of these bad actors in the early Bold Patrol. We saw Order Of Nine Angles members who were connected to the Bold Patrol and Team Rocket which were early precursors to this mass killer Christchurch stuff. We also saw Peyton Gingren was the Buffalo, New York shooter at the Topps grocery store that live-streamed himself killing all of those black people He was actually part of a 764 precursor group called CVLT I think i'm the first person to have

45:00 exposed that and I got, you know when i first started looking into this. I was really fascinated with Gendron who was behind the scenes provoking him it wasn't until last year where I did a documentary for the CBC about 764 It was actually the CBC investigators who told me this information gave me Peyton Gendron's username and cult that he got from one of the victims That we were able to confirm that he was part of that group Recently, the last... Three or four school shooters have been connected to 764, or TCC specifically. The last one was the Evergreen High School shooting which happened on the same day as a Charlie Kirk assassination so many people didn't even know it happened but that one was there then there was Solomon Henderson, a black neo-Nazi in Antioch Tennessee. At Antioch high school he killed one girl and shot I think two others before killing himself

45:57 And then before that we had a female named Natalie Rupnow, Samantha Rupnow. She actually became a very big idol, uh, a very point of inspiration for a lot of copycats. So all of those people were explicitly linked to the 764 satanic network. Yes. Those were the ones I had on my list to add if nothing came to mind but I also had down here there was someone named Angel Almeda who was part of temple of blood you extorted girls as a former sacrifice to an islamic demon name shaytan and then another guy richard densmore who went by rabbit online he ran a discord server called the sewer which was one of these places

46:45 get kids all worked up with a nasty content. Those two, I don't think are our actual mass shooters but they're kind of the puppet masters or one degree away from the people who are doing this stuff. Almeida and Rabid Densmore were both very early. They were both order of nine angles and CVLT 764 so those are the important ones because those are the ones where we connect order of nine angles and say this guy was in order of nine angles adherent And he did do these things. So that's where if I start mentioning Almeida, I'll get a lot of Niners to start attacking me getting really mad and the reason is because there's actual proof that he was connected to the group and they'll try to claim He just bought that stuff on eBay man We have nothing to deal with it and it's like well He bought stuff on ebay off your order nine angles eBay store because he was fascinated with the cult who wanted to join It so yes, he wasn't you know

CHAPTER 13 / 19 Discussion

RICO Charges for Pedophiles, Senator Dick Durbin Legislation

The Department of Justice is increasingly using RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) charges to secure longer sentences for individuals involved in online predatory networks. Senator Dick Durbin recently proposed legislation to increase sentencing guidelines for these crimes. However, the bill faced procedural hurdles in the Senate regarding unanimous consent and legislative debate.

rico· dick durbin· sentencing guidelines· department of justice· legislation

47:38 Almeida though, you know I said Islamic demon Shaytan But I corrected that in a future release because it's actually it is based on an Islamic demon however Shaitan is actually one of the dark gods from the order of nine angles praxis So it just goes to show you how again David my it was really derivative in his In his cult right, you know Dinsmore was one of the worst. There's another one Caleb Merritt who? Predates both of those guys and was part of a CBLT group And he actually physically kidnapped a 12 year old girl after grooming her online He's serving 350 years or he was serving through 50 years and now there's another case on him That's a Rico charge so one thing we've been seeing this new DOJ do is

48:23 is they've been taking these guys who were previously arrested for these crimes and tacking on RICO, racketeering charges onto them in trying to get you know slam them for even longer because when you look at it this is something that I don't think most people understand until you really really get deep into this kind of stuff. Particularly I've been following the legal cases religiously reading all the court documents and attending Zoom Zoom trials and hearings and stuff. And what I really found is that there are sentencing guidelines that they have to follow, so it's not like we're just going to give you a slap on the wrist that they might not want to but you have to get creative with charges in order to get them a hire which sucks because we should be sentencing pedophiles longer in jail or whatever

49:09 There's already actually a new law that's just been proposed. That's in the works to increase the sentencing guidelines for these kinds of crimes, right? It's always so telling the politicians that don't actually support those bills. That gets really weird when someone would vote against such a thing I said something about this because it, you know, Senator Dick Durbin who put this new one out and I read it and I was like why would anyone disagree? Well of course there was somebody in the comments who gave a very good explanation for why. It had to do with the way he pushed it through, you know cause we're not lawmakers but he tried to push it through with like unanimous consent which is something that will never happen because they're like no we need more time to look through this and debate it

49:52 So it wasn't that they were like, I oppose sentencing guidelines. It was really just a legislative thing. Like he tried to do it in a sloppy way and then of course Dick Durbin tries to go well the Republicans denied it see you know and they're like we've denied it most normal people don't understand how lawmaking works so of course So I fell for that too, I guess. I was one of those people who did not understand the legislative explanation. Guilty myself it seems so obvious Yeah i do think that it's gonna get pushed forward eventually It just going to take more time So something else I was going to bring up with Joshua Caleb Sutter Some of your videos they move very fast and not everyone is trying to take notes like I am but

CHAPTER 14 / 19 Discussion

James Mason, Charles Manson, Universal Order Cult

James Mason, author of the extremist text "Siege," collaborated with Charles Manson to form the "Universal Order" cult while Manson was imprisoned. This ideology has evolved into modern "NSO9A" groups that combine National Socialism with Manson's environmental "ATWA" philosophy. Researcher Tom O'Neill's work is cited as evidence of Manson's potential ties to CIA mind control experiments.

james mason· charles manson· universal order· siege· tom o'neill

50:35 Was it him who reached out to members of the Manson family? No, no. So that was... You're talking about James Mason. Okay. James Mason was the author of Siege. He was a big influence to Sutter but Mason was obsessed with Manson he did reach out to the Manson family and eventually was put in contact with Charles Manson. And he and Manson together formed a new cult called The Universal Order while Manson was in prison, The Universal Order is very...the parallels of the process church are glaring like it's very obvious that there were some satanic universal order

51:16 had a lot of the same kind of Abraxas energy themes and you know it was just really obvious that Manson was out there. And now what we're seeing more today, we're seeing way more of these types of order mind angles nections or adherents that are obsessed with Manson and they use the Atwar which is air trees water animals. That was the environmental group that Manson started when he was in jail, and they add the R for revolution So you're seeing that at war And that Manson symbology starting to merge with o9a it was actually very interesting how that whole thing developed But yeah Mason started a cult with Manson universal order He eventually made the National Socialist Order that came after Adam Woffin disintegrated It was like trying him trying to remake Adam Woffin

52:05 But Sutter was part of that too. And so the NSO got infiltrated by Some order my angles guys one of them I've talked to his name is Walter Bond I don't know if you ever seen pictures of this guy, but he's an eco terrorist Who has claimed to me that it was all a ruse for the Order of Nine Angles? I don't know if I really believe him but he is He is like an Arkham Asylum villain. Like, I don't know how else to describe this person but he took over Mason's NSO and made NSO 9A. These satanic accelerationist groups are constantly evolving and dissolving and reintegrating in trying to come up with new catchy stuff to attract more people. And it's really hokey when you talk to these guys it's really like a fourth wall breaking moment where you're like, You guys are goofy

52:57 Bond is interesting because he was a PETA terrorist who burned down. He burned down some kind of facility I forgot which one it was, but he wasn't eco terrorists He was actually put in Tara Hope at the prison at Tara Hope where they have what they have this segregation unit there Where they basically put Terrorists it has accurately been described as Arkham Asylum Because it's really all of these terrorists who are being segregated for some reason but their just their incubating and getting crazier and crazier. And there's a lot to be said about that unit that he was a part of, uh, and then they released them! And now he started a new cult it's the NS09A revamp I forgot what its called...I wouldn't say it anyways because I don't really want to give him the clout

53:41 Right, it all gets so confusing. My thought when someone reaches out to Manson is like well a lot of people think Manson was the CIA mind-controlled puppet and so you reach out to this guy It's like well that's how that's how you get involved with Becoming a puppet yourself Yeah I mean I think Tom O'Neill see it like proved that more or less than he was Involved with the CIA's in kale. I'm convinced I you couldn't convince me otherwise actually and Freaking psychotic lunatic with a cult personality who the CIA used Yeah, because of though because I think that that's far more likely to meet you the case. I think they love to use these psychopaths and they love to study their You know Manson had such a cult personality early The question was always like how did you get all these young hit people to follow your weird short? pedophile creep, you know And yeah, it was the music it was the music

CHAPTER 15 / 19 Discussion

Mikhail Chukichvili, MKY Extradition, Santa Claus Poisoning Plot

Mikhail Chukichvili, the leader of the MKY group, was recently extradited from Moldova to the United States and pleaded guilty to terrorism-related charges. His plot involved grooming an individual to dress as Santa Claus and distribute poisoned candy to minority children in New York City. This case serves as a primary example of foreign actors orchestrating domestic terror plots via digital platforms.

mikhail chukichvili· mky· moldova· georgia· department of justice

54:45 So so he had this this tractive personality I could definitely see why the CIA would want to want to study that kind of personality and figure out how to exploit it. Before i let you go, I did want to give you a chance to gloat because one year Twitter post, your pinned tweet actually I think is about the scalps that you have collected. There are some you can talk about because they have had their cases completed and their sentencing completed tell people about some of the good you can talk about that you've been able to do Yeah, so the four that are listed there one of them is Kyle Spitz. Now all the crazy blonde hair, the pudgy fellow there is Cameron Finnegan that's Kyle sprint who I mentioned was arrested after making all those threats to me in the UK. Another one there is a guy named Drake Miller

55:34 who had been threatening me nonstop online. And I remember it was funny, because sometimes I draw them out into the public. If you follow me on Twitter, you might see me spouting with these guys in the comments and they're like we're gonna kill you and your whole family. So this particular one he pissed me off not actually quote tweeted in that said, I'm going to find you next. I tweeted something like that. And then sure enough someone came to me after seeing that tweet here's his name I'm not going to be able to do that.

56:13 a guy named Mikhail Chukichvili. That's MKY's butcher, he was the leader of MKY and I did play a small role in helping give information that we had against that guy they recently extradited him from Moldova He is a Georgian national and they arrested him in Moldova, extradited him And now he has just recently pled guilty And that was a big win for the DOJ. Also, disgusting pedophile but that wasn't in his charges unfortunately. His charges were related to a plot to groom someone into dressing up as Santa Claus on Christmas and handing out rice and laced candy to minority children in New York City

CHAPTER 16 / 19 Discussion

Parental Safety Advice, BX Substack, Digital Literacy

BX provides safety recommendations for parents, including removing children from platforms like Roblox and fostering open communication about digital extortion. She emphasizes that children should be taught "digital self-protection" similar to gun safety training. Her investigations and warning signs for the 764 network are published on her Substack, "BX Writes," and her video series is hosted on Rumble following YouTube bans.

substack· bx writes· roblox· gun safety· grooming signs

56:54 A real winner. Yeah, well this guy is interesting right because this shows you how these foreign completely foreigners are manipulating this kind of stuff from behind their keyboards in another country even those guys aren't safe from extradition and prosecution here in the states that's definitely one of the biggest wins man I'm so impressed with the work you do like just Combing over this, this week preparing for this. I mean it's really demoralizing you just have no hope in society but i guess do you have any advice for parents or whatever? Are there red flags to look for? It should be as easy as keep your kids off of this stuff and its not that easy You know and I get that And I've talked a lot with victims and a lot of victims' parents So there is actually an article

57:46 on my sub stack called 764 warning signs. You can read it without a subscription to my sub sack that has all of these red flags and stuff on it other than that, I would say your kids should not be on roadblocks there's no reason for your kid to be talking to adults or strangers in any capacity online until they're out of the house That's my opinion, right? But it's also worth talking to your kids at an age-appropriate level about bad guys You know you've my kids only eight and I've talked to her about How we don't talk to strangers online because they could be pretending to be anyone. They'd be a bad guy Right so she's already well look will aware of that And then at an older age, you can start talking to them about more mature topics and how to protect themselves from these kinds of extortion schemes. It's the same thing I do with gun safety right? A lot of parents go well my kids don't need to know gun safety because we don't have any guns but then your kids aren't with you all the time they go to school, they go to friends houses so they need to know how to protect themselves when you can't protect them because let's be honest anyone who has kids knows especially as they get older into teenage years that you can't protect them all the time

58:49 That's why we teach our kids basic self-protection strategies. Definitely teach them how to avoid these groups, teach them what they do and show them what they do right? And make it serious! Then finally you know make sure that your kid always knows that you're their advocate and that you're there to help them no matter what happens I've had the unfortunate experience of talking to a lot of really young victims It's heartbreaking for me as a mom Because they're always so afraid to talk to their parents. They're like I will go to the police, but I want my parents find out that's heartbreaking. I get that but if you can foster that sense of trust So that your kids know no matter what happens That you are on their side and you are going to protect them because a lot of times the groomers themselves have convinced Them that there gonna get in trouble

59:34 trouble if they talk about it or tell anyone. And so, they're being manipulated too. So definitely having that really good relationship with your kid and communicating with them is even better than keeping them offline completely because kids today are already learning... In fact I would point out that there was an article that came out of Canada just a couple weeks ago talking about how these 764 network kids were targeting kids on their school laptops Well, you really are doing amazing work. A great example that just a person who cares can make a huge difference let people know where to follow you online and support the work through the sub stack and all that good stuff. Yeah definitely I'm most active on X right now BX underscore on underscore x

1:00:21 I also have a Substack, which is really great. I post pretty much all my investigations on Substack. I do have some articles that go into more detail that are paid subscription. Substacks is the best way to support me because again, I'm completely independent and don't get paid by the government or anything like It's shady NGOs to do any of this stuff. So people like to support my sub stack and I like to put out a lot of really interesting op-eds and stuff on there that people can kind of go a little bit deeper, And that... My sub stack is BX Writes. Like writes? Um..and so yeah those are the two main places you could find me You can also watch my six part series on Rumble YouTube would not allow me to upload

1:01:07 parts three through six, they banned them. So Rumble has all of those. Yeah and they are great I'll include links to all that stuff. I encourage people to dig in deeper and at least you know shout out a thank you because you really actually put yourself out there in a way that a lot of researchers I interviewed don't so it's been a pleasure thanks for talking to me today and keep doing what you do! Thank You Greg I really appreciate it I'm glad to have this talk with ya Okay, well the sun is shining brightly but it's a dark one today. Man! This felt really important to do this feels like a much bigger potential threat than a big grandiose conspiracy that you can't do anything about like a Saturn Moon Matrix Soul Trap cycle or something It also kind of makes me feel old because I was a big gamer as anyone as an only child in a pre-internet world

CHAPTER 17 / 19 Discussion

Gaming Evolution, STL Punk, Internet Nostalgia

A reflection on the evolution of the internet contrasts modern predatory digital landscapes with the "clunky" era of AOL Instant Messenger and text-based wrestling federations. The host recalls "STL Punk," a niche social media site for the St. Louis music scene that predated MySpace. This nostalgia highlights how the innocence of early online social interaction has been replaced by highly refined manipulation tactics.

stl punk· aol instant messenger· gaming· st. louis· lost media

1:02:03 But that sort of single player gaming is just so much different than the always on digital world social gaming landscape of today. I already see myself struggling as a parent because even though I don't really play anymore, I do love the gaming world. I follow what's going on. I got into expedition 33 and ball pit and Alan Wake 2 and arc Raiders enough to see what's going on there And I'm not even going to try Blotro because a roguelike poker game that i can get on my phone sounds like a new addictive habit. I don't even need to try to manage but gaming really is different now it's a lot of kids social interaction throughout the week It's like a game of eight person telephone with your buddies after school friendships and bonding goes on there, I wouldn't want to cut my son off from that sort of thing if it is part

1:02:59 the social life of that generation. People worry about the metaverse and some ubiquitous avatar based virtual world, but that is here it's Fortnite they have really every IP it's truly insane if you didn't know but also feels different from when I grew up on the internet in general because it was so clunky and unsophisticated back then predators barely even knew what they had We were all just so excited by AOL, Instant Messenger and chat rooms. I was in a lot of fake wrestling federations, feds as we called them completely text-based matches where you'd conceive of a character and write out your monologues and call out other people in the Fed

1:03:47 And the guy who was basically like a dungeon master essentially would script out the matches and the winners would be whoever Was cutting the best promos and creating the most hype and talking the most trash. Oh, I loved it! It's basically all lost media now. I don't have any record of any of it. I never really thought much of it as a D&D for wrestling but that is what it was And it was all typed as an eighth grader. It's kind of weird, I was completely neglecting schoolwork but I was typing these five page intense highly creative epic dramas multiple times a week. Ugh! Just so different from what kids are using the internet for now and just how manipulative and refined it's all gotten. When I wasn't doing the wrestling fed stuff I would be on AOL instant messenger throwing out that age sex location all over the place like everyone else

1:04:42 I definitely met up with some girls from online that way. My parents just thought they were dropping me off at Six Flags with the boys, but girls we would meet online would also meet up there and hang out and...I was just so dumb! I never really even thought about the potential of a person line. None of us did! We actually had another thing didn't mean to go so hard on Internet nostalgia, but we had another thing that was very special really ahead of its time a social media website called STL Punk and it's gone now But it was like a Facebook or myspace before that stuff was even normalized And it was specifically created for the st. Louis punk whatever music scene

1:05:32 So my friends and I would make goofy songs, and you could have band pages and post MP3s. And girls were just dying to meet guys in bands! You had so much more to go on with pictures and full profiles all based on one niche scene in one bored Midwest mid-sized city it was all much better than using AOL for that but Still, I never thought about anyone lying and was giving my parents' home address out all the time. But it did all feel just so different. We were figuring out this stuff at the same time together

CHAPTER 18 / 19 Discussion

BX De-platforming, Critic Compilation, Investigative Risks

The host reviews the intense backlash and de-platforming efforts directed at BX, including a compilation of critics labeling her "schizo" and a "lunatic." Despite her YouTube ban, BX continues her work on Rumble and Substack. The host expresses skepticism toward those who mock her efforts to expose online predatory networks, even while acknowledging disagreements on specific claims like the Charlie Kirk incident.

de-platforming· youtube· rumble· charlie kirk· investigative journalism

1:06:16 So I really thought this interview was insightful. Like I said, I kind of feel old because I don't really know these spaces very well. THC had a fan-run Discord for a little while and they banned us and they banned my personal account so i just never really bothered to make a new one So it was just eye-opening to hear from someone who has gone very deep on these online communities and seen true organized groups coming in with very creative and sadistic ways to hurt people from a distance. I do think we have a bit more intelligence, engagement, and provocation than BX suggested but that's just an assumption because i am so skeptical of those organizations

1:06:58 Crazy that both Trevor Aronson and Dr. Colin Ross, two previous THC guests both got called out a bit today too Dicey dicey hey I'm doing the best i can all right so the first hour was wild the second hour even more so we talked about the Highland Park shooting The bizarre case of Kyle Spitz I cannot show that video now or I would but I can link to it if you haven't seen it Wild We talked about connections to larger scales, scandals and networks and grooming. And she just really knows all this stuff well and is great talking about it too another component not everybody gets if you like what I do get twice as much with THC plus today that means a full two hour interview with BX sometimes it means other things but always ad free in action packed links in the show notes she's really brave though

1:07:56 I've read some weird claims from people trying to smear her or discredit her in all kinds of ways and these can be scary people to be on the bad side of. Let me actually just play you a three minute compilation that she posted of people talking shit on her I have been banned from Twitter temporarily due to mass reporting. If this investigation never picks up steam or gets any recognition, we're not trying to de-platform you! We're trying to have a laugh and half at your expense because crazy. Unfortunately, I'm too busy attempting to release exclusive investigations that contain important information in an attempt to decelerate the downfall of Western society." I'm sorry but this bitch went full tinfoil? Like she sounds like Alex Jones right now! I say this very genuinely i think she's actually crazy okay okay cool like to be that crazy with a kid it's like damn that's like extra that is not a great mom i guess

1:09:05 Rough. I think she's a fucking lunatic, she's crazy! You are crazy and i'm not saying that to be mean you are certifiable you deserve to be criticized you deserve to be mocked and ridiculed and you should- you deserve to be shamed like She's got this savior complex where she thinks her little irrelevant channel with videos that usually average about 300 views is going to change the world. She gets on a crusade and thinks she's so important, you know? And she gets on her horse and off she rides expecting like hundreds of people to be behind her... ...and turns around no one's there because nobody gives a shit about stupid things she's trying to do. You really think too highly of yourself!

1:09:49 There's proof that mass shooters leave behind coded messages. She doubled down on this shit! I called her a conspiracy theorist, cause she fucking is! Yo she so schizo... That i fear that one day she'll become one of the people she talks about in her videos. Get back while she got a whole arsenal on that bitch. Mmhmm. Yikes. BxBullet has been banned from YouTube? Wait no are you serious?! Oh man, listen. I'm not a fan of de-platforming okay? I don't...I would never condone this or I would never say that you should go like spam report people That would be very bad thing to do But um Of all the things to happen uh..of any person on the internet to get de-platformed Fuck it Let it happen to this dumb fucking bimbo Finally! See ya later! YouTube

1:10:52 No, it's not funny. I'm against this okay? I am against this and I think- I don't like people's YouTube channels getting banned okay? Investigative journalists... So that's right she considers herself an investigative journalist If, um, one thing that you can come out of that we can come away with from this is that at least it when people look at these conspiracy theories now that she's kind of peddling, we… people can look at her and be like, oh, this is the type of person that believes in this. I really shouldn't believe in this, this must be dumb as f-ck," y'know? Um, and so—so, at least there's that and also, I mean,

1:11:34 If she's the one thing that's like standing between us and like a civil war I think we deserve it honestly. I really do right stardust if you watch the videos about this, I've only seen no I haven't watched the video so oh there again Oh yeah sure you know about it then don't you? Yeah, so it's wild to me. I'm sure there is some subtext missing that i don't understand but why would you come out against a person who really just trying to clean up a cesspool of people doing dark shit online? Even if you think she wrong couldn't you just say that she has the right intentions and be neutral on it? I personally disagree very much with her assessment of the Charlie Kirk thing Her description does not match what I felt like I saw

CHAPTER 19 / 19 Discussion

Andrew Johnson Interview, Higher Side Meetups, Outro

The host recaps a previous interview with Andrew Johnson regarding 9/11 and cold fusion, which received high ratings from the subscriber community. Upcoming "Higher Side Meetups" are announced for locations including Michigan City, Indiana; Brentwood, California; and Sao Paolo, Brazil. The episode concludes with a musical segment and a final warning about the persistence of digital predators.

andrew johnson· cold fusion· 9/11· michigan city· brazil

1:12:23 But whatever, that's not really what this was about and she knows more than me. She has worked in that industry So I don't know but look out for each other Slipping into darkness can sneak up on you And there are many manipulative freaks out there getting off on exploiting weaknesses and trust From the pill pushers to the satanic accelerationist groups Just gotta watch yourself Okay In higher side news...I got some good stuff brewing Can't wait to see how some of it is received But until then, let's just move on and talk about the last episode. Andrew Johnson what a guy I was actually thinking that episode would probably win an award for best interview with a boring title 9 11 cold fusion in controlled opposition. I get it but man deceptively good based on the title he was great really open minded and a fun guy who knows the things he cares about inside out

1:13:22 And I'm obviously not alone in thinking that because the rating is a 4.8 from the plus people couldn't be more psyched about that he's got a lot of great work so i definitely would do it again and I look forward to his book on consciousness let's check in on the meetup calendar higher side meetups com anyone can make an event and find THC loving locals All right. On deck we have Friday, January 16th Michigan city, Indiana burn Elm brewing and then this one's interesting Saturday, January 17th Brentwood California a social gathering for non vaccinated singles. All right. January 18th Stronton Virginia hometown grill and buffet January 22nd San Paolo Brazil January 30th Tone Esquit

1:14:16 Washington at the Iron Grill, February 6th a portal virtual meetup and February 14th. You tree in at Stoke on Trent in the United Kingdom I got called out for saying stroke on Trent last time it is stoke on trend okay we got that taken care of awesome get out there make some events find the others Thank BX if you value her work let her know it was appreciated much love and I'll see you next time. I've done my part Your moves satanic accelerationists honeypot handlers and psychopathic online predators your fucking There's darkness everywhere right on up to the edge of the light a cold and persistent force it is lord knows not how

1:15:08 We get dropped in this place where the dice decide to land It's a goddamn fricking mirror if we get a decent hand On the rights of some random arbitrary man made imaginary Be grateful you're such a decent even boring family! We get proud when sometimes it's just luck

1:15:59 are free to go sometimes when we and worst hurts taking what you see, you might not pat your heart if you know how bad it could be. thankful on the right side random arbitrary man-made imaginary be grateful for decency just be thankful on the right side random arbitrary man made

1:17:23 for a decent