Topic: Living System

The guests explain that the true relationship between gods and men is based on the transmission of knowledge and "laws" that function as a societal operating system. This includes guidance on diet, business, family structures, and timekeeping. They argue that most of society is too simplistic to contemplate the high-order dynamics of these interactions, accepting oversimplified models instead.

Information received through altered states often emphasizes that the universe is a living, interconnected system. One anecdote describes an individual receiving over-unity device designs during a Native American sweat lodge ceremony, leading him to pursue an engineering degree to ground the ethical and moral responsibility of the technology.

The discussion covers the effectiveness of hemp oil for Crohn's disease, citing the testimonial of Shana Banda, author of "Live Free or Die." Simpson claims the oil has even successfully treated flesh-eating disease. He contrasts these results with the "poison" of the pharmaceutical industry, specifically criticizing Accutane and the use of radiation in CAT scans which can cause further cellular mutation.