The Arkon & The Greek | Godspeek: Technological Manipulation, Spiritual Subversion, & Etherial Influence

00:05 That's true, Dr. Zayas. So say we all. From the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood and there is very little that has shaped the human story more than the propagation of the three Abrahamic religions Wars Inquisitions Infidels Tyrannical rule Cultural divides Oppressive teachings on how to live Disdain for The Other And yes Mass mind control

01:03 And yet the atheistic era has taken us down a path of hopelessness, anxiety and misplaced worship of science to fill the hole. And between the extremes and manipulated mental cul-de-sacs is room for more accurate model some sort relationship between gods and man as well as acknowledgement spiritual forces and dimensions that do have role in this weird reality But the planetary puppet masters of the Capstone Cabal have made sure that we never really have the proper context for any of this, and thus many people are left grabbing for parts of The Elephant in the Great Cosmic Darkness. Well, here to set the record straight and undo the damage done is returning guests The Archon and The Greek. The anonymous one-two punch of propaganda busting insight in the bright minds behind both Greekspeak.com and Godspeak.com which both contain a series of interesting sonic events that give one more than enough to think about

01:59 In their last visit to THC, we focused mainly on the content in their Greek-speak series. But today they're coming back around to dive deep into the spiritual insights and godly knowledge contained in their God-Speaks series! And I'm here for it – The Spiritual Knowledge Seeders, Religious Propaganda Parsers & True Relationship Between Gods and Men Revealers… The Archon and the Greek, the Greek and the Archon... Welcome back fellas! Thank you. Greetings Yes, I am psyched to do this. You make a great team! Last time was a lot of fun we talked about cosmic censorship lawful timekeeping the Pope's work schedule the biological vacuum proper discernment power and just a ton of interesting topics and today We're going a lot more spiritual but there is a ton of great stuff in The Godspeak series so i expect this one to be just as insightful but

02:50 How are you guys doing? How are you feeling about the state of the world it's only been three months since we last talked but it seems like the credits of the movie are still running as the greek might say. Okay, the state of the world or the world state right that sounds like a play on words but I would just say how do I feel about the world state as such and you could take that politically governmental as deep state or underlying powers same old shit man It's not going to change until it changes, until it comes crashing down and that's just how it goes. And it will crash down and it will implode both from internal and external mostly external influences and thats how I would sum up that question without getting too verbose. Arkan how do you feel about things? Well I feel much like the Greek that we're in a sort of set trajectory towards a certain destination with human society which at least in the short term is not going to be very pleasant

03:47 I don't think that people are successively making more sense of the world. They're making less sense and so inevitably, that has to come to a boiling point where things sort of tip over and presumably that won't be too far in the future." Yeah, it's scary because you don't want to experience a true collapse of everything. But there are a lot of folks out there that feel like the only way to get the utopia or closer-to-utopia model on the other side is for everything to fall apart and we just have to cross our fingers and hope we can survive through that gap apparently. It's an intense thing to think about but philosophically so many people think that we need to go through the darkness to come back out to the light

04:36 Yeah, Greg just before we really get into the meat of things I don't endorse this person i'm going to mention he has been a guest but he's worthy mentioned to look at his work Jason Breshears of Archaics. I've been talking a lot about eschatology and he's come up with some things that could pretty much combine with what i've been saying through Greek speak and Godspeak. And again, I don't endorse him directly you have to always listen everything with discernment but it's some of the best stuff that I've heard out there regarding chronology So I would put that in quotes for chronology and I think you've had him as a guest as well This is not about

05:14 Self promotion anything this is really about objectifying and getting stuff out to the listener so i just wanted to say that before we start yeah fair enough fair enough. So estimates vary pretty wildly when you look up these kind of things, but it seems as though 3.5 billion people follow one of the three major religions and there's no doubt they've had a huge impact on human behavior and human history But what would you say about the creation of them? As a way to control people which seems to be the core function that they have

05:50 Exactly. All right, so we're done! We don't need to do any more that's it the entire session here at the Sonic event is about that and if you just manage what you just said about being a control issue were pretty much done on the talk because everything else is going to be supporting them It's simple, right? It is it is and to drill down on say one thing like the King James Bible It's always frustrating when I have a guest who's here because they wrote a great book or they're very Clued in on one specific topic but peppered throughout the two-hour interview. They just keep going back to the well of Bible quotes or talking about Jesus and I just roll my eyes because I don't want to

06:34 go off track and derail the whole interview to dissect their religious paradigm. But you should! You should dissect it because they call it KJV syndrome, its contagious so you should stop them when they start with that. Fair enough fair enough well What would you say about the King James Bible? You've said in the Godspeak series it was created to drive a wedge through society and it was intentionally seated as a false paradigm. Talk to us about that for people who maybe don't see it that way yet. Very simple, the concept of political tools done by administrative bodies and any heads-of-state...King James, was he a king loosely yes but he was a regent from Scotland to fill in a void

07:18 in the monarchy and he knew that the monarchy was deified by the common people. So if you made a cheap, easily accessible, more accessible non-Latin version of what's called the scriptures that people revered that God let say and the stories in there and gave it to the public would drive a wedge between the peoples idea that the king or queen are gods or deified and show that there's a way to access information on other deities, let's say. And I'm saying that loosely you know all the way back to the kings right to rule from God and all of that common people just viewed royalty as deities so he drove that in there by actually providing a cheap secondary lets say story or whatever you might call it KJV

08:06 Mm-hmm fair enough and if we're gonna fully deconstruct before we reconstruct I guess We should back it up to Judaism too because that's said to be the original monotheistic paradigm the first of the Abrahamic religions and obviously half The Bible is just a recycled version of the Hebrew Bible But what do you consider some of the deeper insights into its origins? And the uniqueness of its place in the big three. Oh many levels of it. Before we get into that, more people might be familiar with the reconstruction of Catholicism as it goes through time and there was a big one in the 1960s and at the turn of the century there's a reconstruction or redoing even like with the country we live in used to be a republic then it became a democracy right? And it sounds like it's just words but it's very radical in terms of change

08:58 Monotheism would be kind of a far stretch. It's a very simple label to put on it, but actually if you do read what is called the Old Testament the whole thing was about getting people to get away from worshipping other gods so when were they really monotheistic? I don't know! They're always worshiping right?! If you go to the stories, you know the Bal Pior, or The Lord of The Opening. And The Opening would be the female genitalia that we're worshipping then you had the Astarte and other balls and the whole entire story is about Getting them to worship one God where apparently they had a hard time doing that Yeah, I mean I remember growing up here in the Golden Calf story And of course one of the commandments is you should have no other idols before me. It's like well I thought there were no other idols What are you talking about? This should be kind of obvious if it's a situation where there's only one apex god as the religion I was brought up and taught

09:55 So yeah, that's a curious thing. And you mentioned the deities royalty overlap. That's another thing when we go far down chain in the history it seems like there is a big connection between those two things and oftentimes that's put in the context of like The Fallen Angels story as if there was a time when angelic beings came down here, mated with humans and made offspring which became the pharaohs and the Sumerian kings. Is there truth to that story or is that just again state propaganda of its time? Okay let's backtrack in if we lost connection right now you know if you're on a cell phone your battery's low and you got to give some information just give the important information first right and this is the information let's say we were to end this right now I'd say the gods are people

10:44 Are they normal regular humans you know as we are let's say we know the various races which by the way i in terms of race i consider men and women male and female be the major two races by the way it turns up distinction not like color ethnicity nationality so. I would say that god's people and they pretty much put a story on us as such. Just like you mentioned, they were an advanced society that very simply weave in entertainment. We call them stars right? They're like the gods, Elvis was the god of rock let's say back then. Right we call them stars right so we okay... The corporate we has a tendency to create various levels and hierarchies and the highest hierarchy for anyone would be a god wouldn't it

11:33 So if we were to end this right now, I'd say the gods are people. They're people too but they're just very different Let's say the gods that you mentioned from the Sumerian stories or so They would be people that lived with a certain genetic proclivity That grew 9-10 feet tall which skeletons are being found all over the world Red haired blue eyes kind of idea? Is it proper to just say the gods are simply giant humans No But i'm just giving one characteristic Well, let's go into the characteristics. If the gods are people what else makes up their characteristics that are different from us? They're not from here right I mean they're from another dimension a spiritual plane right? I recently did on a private thing that i have a sign-up only this might sound like a diversion but i want to tie it back people say hey greek i want you to speak this person they're very spiritual i mean spiritual how like what you know like spiritual supposed to mean good

12:33 I think i might have defined the spirit is being the mind and the personality and the soul as the metabolism in the body is the car right so. If you were to walk into a room with thousands of beds and people either sleeping or in a coma there's nothing spiritual air, the moment they start exhibiting behavior speech thought interacting with each other that is all spiritual it's up the mine c. So The word spiritual has been misused in a way, technically as well. It uses the Greek prefix PSY-psi where you get psychology psychotic psychiatry that is the mind it's the spirit is the same and they've reversed that when you look it up they tell you the spirit is the soul but I just want to go back to when you speak of a spiritual discussion it is something that is animated by beings who are animating a certain personality or thought form its basically

13:28 Rational animation, which you won't find that much anymore. But that would be the definition and the crux of what people think about being spiritual and how I would define it. Our interactions with the gods if we're gonna say there are many like it the further you go back sometimes people say. The more truthful things seem to be so if you go back beyond, the abrahamic religions that seems like people knew their regards for every little thing you might want that you could call upon was this superstition or is this closer to the real dynamics of the way the world works both

14:08 When you say people again, let's go back earlier I said the gods are people. It would be more concerned of who the gods think the gods are. I'll say this everybody just cover your ears for a moment most people are too simplistic to contemplate these things A good example would be water is H2O right? Everybody goes around they show this molecule You know no one has ever seen that molecule and it actually doesn't exist You don't even need elaborate scientific equipment to prove water is not H2O. Just because you put electrical plates in water and you get hydrogen off of one side and oxygen on the other, doesn't mean it's H2O because no one has reduced the body of water to hydrogen or oxygen. The process stops when it gets down to a certain volume so its something that exhibits a trait of that everyone takes it on I believe and I've seen through

14:54 History and intuition that people are too simple to contemplate something as high order is this when i say people talking about ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine nine percent of society. Fair. Well, we got to try to help them out if we were to try to picture the true dynamics between multiple dimensions or how forces play on the material plane or the relationship between these people we call gods and humanity help flush that out a little bit for us. Rephrase the question How can we get a proper orientation in our minds of the dynamics between the gods and man? Okay, simple. What I've always used as a basis for that is your law comes from your god from listening to the god speak and other things that you might have recalled

15:50 What i mean by your law it's not traffic law taxes or you know what the legal system says your law is basically your operating system and the programs that u run. In other words what you eat, where are you do business how to raise a family how you keep time all of these things It was really the purpose of getting information from the gods which also does a two fold thing. There's a discernment there so when someone says i follow a certain god what body of knowledge is that god let's say transmitted to you right, so here are these guys like oh you can do anything u want it all if i've dealt that for you know it's like well how do i know we need guidance again what to eat what to wear how did your business how to raise a family had to keep time right

16:37 How to manage our environment that is the critical point of let's say the god like transmittal back to humanity again if you go back to entertainment industry those that perform the best are considered stars and even above that gods right cuz it's the best performance so if your going to pick a god look at what they're transmitting towards you know this society or u in terms of proper behavior or what i call lawful living. That would be the main connection. So it is cognitive, it is knowledge-based and by the way even if you read the version of The King James it does tell you that its about knowledge right?

17:14 Well, do you see the gods having an effect on the material plane in terms of things like weather or our luck or our tragedies? Famine abundance illness. Are these things coming from a source of the gods and unseen source that in modern days really isn't acknowledged at all Yes, I would say so. From a technological point of view? Absolutely! When we say technology it's a matter of let's just say you've probably heard most people are familiar with the term that if one advanced society technologically advanced meets a more primitive one the more primitive one considers the advanced societies' technology to be magic right i can give a short story about river plane that flew into the amazon about 75 years ago

18:07 And the explorers disembarked and they met one of the native river tribes, and pulls out a Zippo lighter. And he lights it, and everyone bows down. The translator said why are you bowing down? He says wow! You make fire come out of your hand. It's amazing right?! So he says tell them to show up at the river tomorrow, we'll show them something else At this point, they had trekked into where the inhabitants were living. And what he planned on showing them the next day is to actually fly the river plane in so you can impress them while they do that, they fly the river plane and all of the natives and the chief are standing by the river at the moment they saw the plane land on the river, they just shrug their shoulders and walked away

18:49 Explore what's the translation hey whats wrong about down when i let the zip and they see the plane and they just shrug their shoulders so that translator went to ask chief. The chief said to him basically well if anyone can make fire come out of your hands of course they can fly snow big deal right. So in other words we consider them to be primitive but there form of logic and reasoning is so advanced you just have to impress them once and associate the entire rest of all your behavior as being normal, Unfortunately i think the people in this society now want to be continuously impressed with tricks they're not as advanced as primitive river tribe you see the credit a form of logic that created a terminus that made them go back to their lives, where the current society is constantly looking for new razzle dazzle right. That's why u have all these major events there aren't so you know what i mean to keep people on edge

19:42 So I just wanted to give that analogy, food for thought or thought for food. Right well now we might have found a really interesting thread because when i asked about the influence of the gods in these different categories of life events you said from a technological point of view that could be true. Are we saying this might be why you cited archaics and Jason Brashears? The gods really are like literally people that are just a breakaway civilization that is using technology to affect our lives? Yes, I would suggest that the main group that we know about is here with us in this reality. There probably other realities and say probably it's super hypothetical just like I always bring up sometimes people ask but what do you mean what kind of technology very simple there's a crowd of people

20:35 And you ask them what they want and they all yell out we wanna time machine in the new asking when do u want it and i'll yell out irrelevant does it matter when a time machine is invented no let's say its invented a trillion years from now right a billion trillion whatever, is it possible that someone with technology can come back and affect this world line doesn't matter when it was invented. And if they affect it, do they have the ability to appear and disappear and change events? And the answer that is obvious. That's just one example. Right! Well let's assume if they are living in this reality where might they be living? Where might their civilization be? I'll give a short antidote to this. I was invited to go to a very special school about almost 40 years ago now

21:30 It's about ivy league it's in new york city and the five thousand applicants only take a hundred. And its tuition free i'm not gonna mention his name very few people have heard of it and they do various terry design work decided not to go there, add someone who did stay in touch with me and said so how is going says it's really crazy man for designing airports that hover in the sky what I've never seen that well they're really high up i'm like cool this is forty years ago so i'll leave it at that use your imagination i think i brought up the cosmic universal law of information is getting a piece of information to you however you classify as your idea the thing is did you get the idea the information what i mean by that

22:19 is when science fiction shown to you no matter what label you put on it fictional fact true or not. Did u get the information right let's take star wars for example are people aware of something known someone known as a darth vader or death star yes many people are now whether you classify that is factor fiction is irrelevant in cosmic information knowledge base you know about something like that don't you Even something like Mickey Mouse. Are you familiar with that? Yes, is it fact or fiction? Is he relevant did you get the information That's how the information on the universal concept works

22:59 Yeah, I had Diana Walsh Pasolka here who wrote the book American Cosmic and was kind of trying to drill into the overlap between religion and the sci-fi UFO aliens narrative. And finds that there's actually way more connective tissue than one would think but when i asked her about her conclusions and trying to actually put them in some kinda box she basically said well when you watch a movie the internals of your brain are functioning as if what you're watching is actually happening rather than some kind of fiction. So, your brain does not distinguish between fiction and nonfiction." That was her answer to what UFOs are? It was a little bit strange but Jacques Vallée has said that he thinks that we're looking at a display

23:52 from something else. The UFO is not the thing, the UFO is a projection, a display from something else that's more core and I guess you're kind of wading into that realm too? Yeah there's an old saying that if you have a problem it's because you're following the rules right for example just an interjection...I work on some strange devices and when I'm told in critique that goes against the laws of physics they said well I never heard of those laws so it's outside my jurisdiction so i actually can do it you know like the idea of jurisdiction right. So there is all this stuff that we actually put a clamp and parenthesis in mental parenthesis lock u n, tell us this is not possible well just say that something is not possible is not possible to say that they're no absolute

24:43 Wait a second that could be an absolute in itself so are these paradoxes innocence but you should learn to work with them and juggle these paradoxes in these little mind clamps like all of what is it clamp do right hold something together very tightly not just holding it together but. We say clamping actually puts a lot of pressure inward pressure when use that term. So now we have boundaries put on us from art whatever culture u were raised or education you have that boundary is actually more like a clamp. It squeezes and squeezes and squeezes, preventing expansion. So is it wrong to say that atheism is mostly correct if the thing we interpret as gods or interpreted as gods at a previous age like the Egyptians or the Sumerians or the Greeks? If they're just people... Is there no real true spiritual force in the way most people would think of a spiritual force? I believe there is one

25:40 I think it's really intangible like for example let's just use fish as an analogy fisher so used to being in their environment. You get this really crazy fish once in a while he comes on is hey you know what, i think we're all submerged in water i think we're all under waters when talking about describe the swan thing what's wet what do you mean its way out of your i don't know where are you talking about but you know what What might be interesting is the last thing a fish realizes when right before he dies, is that he's in water. And I'm using that analogy you see about the idea of this spiritual nature of how it relates to the environment we're in right now. Atheism by the way is extremely over simplified. Gustave Le Bon wrote a book called The Crowd and the crux of that book

26:31 When you have an idea and you want to let's say transmit it to a large group of people you have to really simplify that idea right. When you speaking to a large mass what typically happens is that idea become so over simplified that no longer resembles its original concept, that's why like with nine eleven they say well okay the official story is nineteen arab hijackers would box cutters vaporize the world trade center Oh, how could they vaporize the world? That's not what it says. Well tell me the official story that makes even more sense." You know it doesn't so anything you hear put out to the public is so oversimplified that it no longer resembles any initial concept. Right on! So if we're going to talk more about these gods and who or what they are how did they get into their position because you're kind of saying that the right paradigm is to think of the gods as essentially like the same paradigm as a cargo cult

27:27 and this kind of Wizard of Oz motif that there's this razzle-dazzle display, but there's really just a guy back there. And if that's true how did they get to this exalted level in the human story? If we take it back to a time like the Sumerians who thought they were gods how did they get to this exalted state to even play the role of gods? Again I can oversimplify it You could see a rapper that's got 15 lamborghinis and 100 million in cash behind him in the video, and someone in the ghetto watching that. Do you get my point? The contrast is just contrast. I think that we are at a point now where many millennia—many, at least 5 or 6 thousand—that we have been subject to genetic manipulation by these other societies, that that genetic manipulation also affected our minds

28:20 Where we lower species to some idea you know we have all the stuff about human rights and everyone is equal but you know how it goes some people are more equal than others there are still pig me people in asia and the continent of africa which i got people that are four foot zero shorter right if u bring them into this society will be very hard for them integrate totally always be a group around shielding them And many people would also realize, not just because of their size but because of internal functioning to a degree. Their thinking is very different as well This is how I would put early man just a few millennia ago and we are all products of this genetic manipulation which is very easy to do By the way when I say genetic manipulation you don't have to be too esoteric about it Just break out some films from the 1930's okay? Black and white films of just people actors or not

29:16 I start watching stuff from the twenties and thirties and look at the people's noses the shape of their faces the size of your ears the way they walk away they behaved in looking now a film of current. People there is actually physical distinctions that are different Just the influx of chemical influences, you'll notice okay what does he mean by that? You know the ears are much smaller. The ear in Asian medicine represents the constitution of someone so someone with bigger ears has a stronger constitution right they can tolerate more adversity physical adversity now if you look at everyone's years are really really small because the year represents the entire body for example this is just a very small let's say from a macrobiotic perspective these are all fine details but what is not about find details right

30:00 We want good audio quality when we record this right it doesn't matter does it of course matters every fine detail adds up in its cumulative. So the cumulative addition of a group of people living on the surface met by another technologically and also physically impressive would categorize them so differently that it would be very easy to call them gods. And by the way, that term gods or dogs or whatever backwards is something that we use in English if you actually look at the ancient texts they were not actually directly called gods, they were called by their race like in Hebrew would be the Elohim right? In Greek the Thei, right? Or the Anu or the Apkallou which are the hybrids That word god doesn't really directly translate...the word God comes from an old Teutonic word meaning the sun

30:45 which where the word good comes from. Good, you know? Good and God So it's an all Teutonic word that was just chosen to represent such a thing. Hmm... so for the so-called gods for these beings in this class To be able to pull this trick off they had to have technology that was advanced for its day And so might we take this back to Atlantis were they Atlanteans or something else Before the Atlantis i believe yeah i've also at some point expose you know the stuff you normally hear about the very very old atlantis which is actually can be shown to be more of the sea people's now, i believe that technology is not something that has ever developed it just rediscovered everything as always existed its just it's acknowledgement. Is what we consider discovery or invention issue in a minute and we could use example of weather

31:45 In the Sumerians day, they might try to appease certain gods to get advantageous weather or avoid storms that obviously relates to their food production. But today we know the elite have the ability to steer storms and create storms and do that kind of thing so it seems like they're tip toeing into the realm of the gods or technology of the gods but But how does that work in an ancient sense of appeasing the gods? Like if the gods are just people with an advanced technology, how do you make your case. I mean typically that's done through prayer or effigies but would the gods be aware of this even sure they would

32:31 It's called monitoring for example right now if you have devices like stupid rectangles around where you live and start having talk about getting a new couch i bet u, very high percentage rate of success you go to your stupid rectangle will be an ad for your couch. Fair does that just pure randomness or are you being listened to right i'm sure you know that so this is interesting if i were to set up an altar and pray to my own personal pantheon of gods i suppose that might be eggs to something like fertility

33:07 Basically, the reason I might get a result you're saying is because they just have intense monitoring throughout this reality and they can acknowledge oh that guy is doing his little primitive ritual to try to appease me and I can grant him his wish or not. Great Greg! I could say right now you're one of the people that actually got it yep It's so simple You know i went back to the elite with the weather thank you very much and i do whether control all the time actually have a media portfolio you can go to rent stock on just, do research on. The rains come to earth in one of the reporters there said i heard you do weather work it's Tuesday can make your rain l a n. Thursday at some middle dry season and i said sure how much do u want is no rain at all in that forecast okay will drop an inch or so

33:59 Well thursday comes and says in the rains come to earth is the name of this second article is what i call the sky. Any says you could be ready obviously he did look it's raining like crazy and i've done demonstrations over and over and over in the beginning when i was working on this, add about a hundred mile radius now we have a better two or three thousand mile radius of fact and i've done hurricane abatement made hurricanes disappear super typhoon lechima In Japan there was two of them. If you go to Dutch Sense, he does a lot of weird anomalous stuff and says... He has a video, Super Typhoon Lekima and he says look last night there were two hurricanes approaching Japan and something very strange they both disappeared by this morning

34:42 So what i'm just saying this is so simple and being modest about this it's not a big deal in terms of weather design. I also work on technology where i have a pipe, any run basically section of pipe especially designed to fight you could see right through before its finished your under the water on one side clean water comes out on the other what the hell was that were i mean that's magic isn't it Yeah so i'm working on these things and very successfully at the moment i'm just not doing websites are not bragging about it trying to be humble. I keep it to myself and share with others who need it,

35:18 And I'm not a god, but the gods are on an order of thousands or millions of times higher than what i'm saying let's say. Like for example we might have someone in society that has got a nice piece like the British say, nice piece of kit, nice piece of high tech something right? I assure you there is some military group or black ops group that has got something way beyond that! For example these stupid rectangles we use right now... What's a stupid rectangle anyway? those devices all that stuff thats 40 50 year old technology you know it was a little bulky or also the technology that we have none of it has really been developed since the eighteen nineties and that sounds like crazy statement right.

35:59 What you call development is miniaturization they've been able to minimize all the stuff and i'm not impressed by miniaturization don't think the ladies are impressed by miniaturization anyway no anyway. I like it so when i asked where these people we think our gods might be mentioned that You were read in on this situation where they're building airports in the sky and there's a possibility that are in the sky i've read passport to mcgoniage which talks about the mcconegan's in the sky people seen, sky ships up there of some kind at certain periods of history.

36:39 Well, another far out idea I have liked is when it's been suggested that Freemasons they're all about angles and certain numbers. And when you look at the Freemasonic artwork, the symbols. There will be like a ladder to the sky with the sun on one side and moon on another side and window in the sky that this ladder reaches almost suggesting rips in reality that there could be places you can't actually access dimensional rips or something. A guy named Jacob dealt with one? Yeah yeah is this where they might be located

37:21 Yes and above and below also underground there's a lot of stuff someone could look up whether you believe it or not take in the information who said mountains in romania they found underground alien bases supposedly and they connect to egypt iraq and other places in the world. And when u say underground its like all this dingy whatever right no i would suggest that we were ever seen pictures of them all of america or elaborate shopping mall what that looks like Look at the robust structure of a shopping mall like the ones in dubai let's say if you wanna get really elaborate why couldn't that be built a mile down. Very well could be i mean robert f kennedy junior he and just one of his interviews going on is speaking to her for presidential bed,

38:09 He casually dropped that when he was a kid, he was taken to one of these places because he's in one of the privileged families. And he was really impressed that this underground bunker was actually more like an underground city that had its own McDonald's and all the things of the surface world. his mind was blown, but now he just drops that as if everybody knows it. And I was like wait a second! Oh no he was in hell if there was a McDonald's. No I'm just joking. Okay that was more of a Dante-ism Yeah here is one thing that I don't know for sure but I could suppose and it would be very strongly accurate That once you build something underground that goes above 300 meters or 900 feet guess what happens? It starts to develop its own weather system

38:57 So all you have to do is paint the ceiling blue, right? And you actually have a small weather system accruing. If you're born in a situation like that well you wouldn't know the difference right? You'd brought someone up from there and you described weather on the surface and they say yeah we have whether they are as well By the way I want to suggest something whether you believe it in the planets or not or the shape of the earth or not...I think I might've mentioned this when you look at the planets and their barren on the surface and let's say in the solar system or computer graphics that they show us. That is a mark that 90% inhabited by super advanced civilization. And the analogy I give is this, Greg, I just built a new house and for the new house, I'm going to have new furniture delivered. Oh Greg here comes the furniture truck guess what? I'm gonna have all the furniture on the roof because I'm going to live on the roof right no way What do you think will happen all neighbors see look at that dumbass living on the roof subject to weather sun all this other stuff Furniture goes inside dummy

40:00 When you have an advanced civilization they go inside the planet inside under protection you see so now there's a fly by to the earth let's say your round ball global. Fly by on the earth are like no don't call their dog these are really dumb people that is still cold air, Right. You see how simple this is? Right, yeah I've heard this argument made before and i think it has merit but its also like the joys of being outside would be denied to an inner earth civilization we know vitamin D is very important that comes from sunlight you mentioned ecosystem forming below but they're not gonna get their own son

40:41 Believe it or not, yes you can. For example there was a grow room back in the days when grow rooms were naughty boy if you did one right? And they wanted to bring the energy inside of the sun without... because one other things is if your electric bill quadruples that's what they look for right so how do you deal with out a massive electric bill I said great just put some metal plates on the roof with a certain wire with metal plates on the ceiling and side and plants will get the energy from the sun transmitted And it's true. Even though it was almost pitch black, the plants were moving in the direction of the metal plates

41:17 So you can actually bring the sun here's an example we only see a tiny percentage of visible light and energy with our sense perceptions most of it goes unnoticed by us ninety nine percent or if you wanna be. Let's say more conservative eighty percent of all the energy around us, go on scene in notice by us so eighty percent of the sun's energy is noticed by us if you could take that eighty percent bring it into an area where there is no visible lights have the same effect there's your want to talk about vitamin d By the way, this is provable. I've done it so... Fair enough! So when we look at cultures who have talked about the Elohim or the Naga or these races that they consider to be gods, have some of these died out? Are they all still active? Who is the most active group today that we might consider in that god-like status?

42:09 Good point have you ever heard of the story elvis is still alive in the tabloids right. Very much any society has that you'll have a popular figure, that suddenly becomes unpopular because it's something they did or said not guess what they are called their call to demon oh yeah there bad now right And then you have popular figures that are just tired of the attention and they die, but they're not really dead. So in other words what I'm trying to say is the trivial machinations of human society are just echoes of what the gods are doing too. Hey have you ever heard of someone on the surface society going to prison? And being in jail and dying in jail? Hey guess what? The gods do the same thing!

42:54 Have you ever heard of someone faking their death? Yes. Have you ever heard of a ritual sacrifice, Kobe Bryant helicopter? Did I just say Kobe Bryant helicopter? I'm not supposed to say that right they do the same stuff You know he was chopped up in many pieces and put back together but the penis was missing so yeah i mean come on it's the same story just elevated hierarchy right well that is interesting to bring out mythology. Is there a better context to think about mythology rather than fiction or primitive people trying to make sense of their world is that really just the

43:31 biography of the gods the history of the gods yes but again because double bond other crowd when you want to transmit a certain information to them the masses ufc simplify it unfortunately over simplification changes the story. For example even with academics i've done this talked about greek mythology and they'll say this in this and that's what actually if you actually read the story it was not so Just like in the biblical story, I don't know what part of this segment we're in here. If you're Christian they bring up the Christ and the image they show is a crucifixion. Well if you've read the story and it's cumulative there is no crucifixion no matter how many times they use that word right? And the same with all of the ancient Greek philosophy... Oh! If you see Medusa you turn to stone. No

44:19 If you read the story, it's your heart turns to stone. Big difference! Right? It's like saying hey Greg put the clothes in the dryer or put the clothes on the dryer if you put the clothes on the dryer but it sounds the same You can't say that Greek it's the same thing no it's not No words matter yeah you got to be specific so let me bring the Archon in here for a minute You have gone through all this with the Greek before. I'm still wrapping my head around things in real time as we're going, but how has the Greeks work or knowledge in this area affected your spiritual beliefs or how you configure all of this in your head?

45:04 Well, it's been very useful for being able to objectify any topic or subject matter pertaining to the supernatural or the spiritual. I like many people came up in an environment where certain things were foisted upon me as far as knowledge and religions and thankfully was able to unpack that a little better thanks to conversations having been had with the Greek and also the work we've done on the Godspeak front So yeah, it's been very helpful from that perspective. There is still a lot of work to be done because I think that ultimately these things can't be completely unpacked until they are shown to you or given to you let say by people who have higher vantage point there is only so much that you can come to by way of your own rationale Because I think kind pertaining what we were saying earlier the influence of gods has always been present in society and continues to be

45:55 But what they do is that they block knowledge of themselves, as has been done through things like mainstream religion. So that their presence is covert rather than overt but that doesn't mean that they're not there We can't say that society is secular when so many of our institutions and cultural artifacts are named after ancient gods like Nike or Mazda or whatnot. So, you know that's fairly obvious but the only reason that some people know anything about the gods is because the gods wanted it to be known or required them to know in the first place. It can be a conundrum to uncover things on your own that are concrete outside of mainstream religion cause its revealed selectively

46:32 I have to sort of wade through that process, even though getting access to this information through the Greek has expedited some of that. Fair! It seems like when you mention terms like supernatural or spiritual or paranormal there is none of that it's just all essentially technological and they just fool us into putting it in these other categories and when you say that it has to be given to you using Wizard of Oz analogy you can speculate that this thing your saying might be. Manipulate it or more stagecraft than reality but you gotta pull back that curtain to really verify it

47:15 Is there a way that people out there listening that think this makes sense is their way they can pull back the curtain do they have that ability is there a place to go or a thing to do where they can validate. These what's them right now might be speculations I think it's a challenge. Sometimes what stands in the way of people's enlightenment is their own hubris and their own folly, and that's something that's really not addressed or talked about enough as they say you can lead a horse to water but not make them drink. You can show people the answers, that doesn't mean that they'll understand anything you're telling them. And i think when it comes to the gods, people discount

47:53 the knowledge base about the gods because they'd rather believe in themselves as self-determined humans. And then even when they do acknowledge the supernatural, they still make it all about them and how they can channel esoteric powers or talk to demons or superhero movie stuff so... I think the Greek has mentioned before, we know as much about the gods as we do about bears. Right? Sure, we can describe the habits of a bear or the characteristics they're all observable so we can confirm their existence but that's about it if you want to know what a bear really is you actually have to be one which is a way of just saying that, again these things have to be given to you in a very tangible way to understand. It's not just by virtue of your own cognitive reasoning that you're going to come to understand what the gods are about hence what you see people doing with secret societies they find a way to immerse themselves in that sphere whether it's through evil doings or dealing with malevolent entities that sort of make parts of that world accessible to them

48:50 It's your own choice how you want to go about it, but you have to have some type of contact point to really get the tangible understanding. Right? That was going to be one of my questions was about secret societies and occultists. Do they have a contact point? Are these little cults and organizations in mystery school societies built around a point of contact? It would seem to be so, to some extent. Although it's hard to verify from the outside what's legitimate and what's not. People talk about the Freemasons endlessly but when you look at their public-facing ceremonies it always seems somewhat ridiculous – the way that they congregate and… You can go up to these people at their events and talk with them about what they're doing and usually say something blasé or sort of generic

49:37 which goes to show that even in that world there's tiers and ancient older literature will talk about 33rd degree Freemason, et cetera. I can't say personally what that means. I would assume that there is a tier somewhere where things do get into the more tangibly supernatural but it's just hard to say from the outside looking in. It's about armies also. That's why the Catholics for example No abortion no birth control no suicide the more people you have listed in your club the more power you have why do you think there are millions of government employees JP Morgan they asked him. Back in the day,

50:15 What are you prepared to do when the people find out the money system is based on fiction? Oh easy, I'll just draft a bunch of checks and pay half the people that killed the other half. That's one way to go about it. Yeah most governments want to increase how many government employees they have because if your depending on quote unquote paycheck your not gonna rebel The goal of any goverment is to get more than 50% of their population in payroll It's the same thing with religion and clubs and secret societies. the real proof, the knowledge to really be shown. I mean we can make the claim all day but to be shown it really has to be given from this upper plane because there's no way for us to elevate ourselves to a state where we can prove these things they have to be willing to pull back the curtain a little bit themselves is there a way to invoke such a thing? You can do it subtly

51:16 Here's a simple experiment that i do all the time and demonstrate to other people something called craigslist right they have a free section. So just think of something you want an act as if you have it and then go in the next two or three days to craigslist free someone is giving away, it works about a rate of seventy percent Very specific things will show up free on craigslist and you go find the ad i was just put five minutes ago when you call today for example i need a small shed of a certain variety. I needed some pallets i needed this i need your water pump it shows up and i call and its like oh yes if you're coming now i'll just take the add down and i got pick it up

51:58 Manifestation is nothing to do with all the traction and all that. But you can manifest things i was gonna say manifestation so you're saying that the gods are the mechanism of manifestation they just decide to grant a wish think about you have a wagon motorized engine driven wagon don't call it an automobile cuz its not autonomous right but fuel in at once we have, but you dont have any roads So you can have as many let's say automobiles right as u want but if you don't have any roads your kind of landlocked right what the gods are simply doing is providing the roads. They're like road maintenance they're building their own connectivity freeways highway small backstreets alley ways

52:37 Does that make any sense for an analogy? It does make sense as an analogy, but I wonder why they would do that. Why they would care if I get the trailer that I want to get through a free ad on Craigslist, they should be so high above me that they don't give a fuck about what I want or how I get it or anything about my life. Yeah you made a really good point go down to beverly hills and ask. People for money cuz they're wealthy they should be loose with the right most people say ghost career self but guess what, what would you say one out of ten one out of twenty might say sure i have some for you very similar humans

53:20 On the Godspeak website, towards the top you have a scrolling rolodex of quotes that come up through the sonic events and one of them mentions that the gods want our attention. The question is like well what do they want with us? Well if you have everything and access to everything what would you want other than attention, but even that seems like if they are just people at a advanced, greatly advanced level I don't see why they would be motivated by getting our attention. Okay you phrased that very well you don't see but maybe they do i'm not being an asshole and saying you don't see it but maybe they do and i'm suggesting that based on just contemplation You know I was invited to a birthday party for a billionaire once

54:14 Is a billionaire right with the be so what do you bring them what do i don't do those things but you know, how to respect that when so would you give someone that already has everything i mean well billionaire doesn't have everything but you know where you bring them. No stupid tie what he get them shift something unusual so i got a letter opener made from a raccoon penis bone hello That was like, who would ever think of something like that? So you see it has to be something unusual. But you notice it's a letter opener right? It still ties into something tangible that they can use. What do the gods use if they focus more on the energetic? Well here let's go back to the universal concept of information have you ever seen a sci-fi film where these beings are so advanced or just basically

55:02 They don't need to eat, they don't need to do much but they interact with the characters that are human by thought? Yeah definitely. Is that so hard to contemplate? That they would communicate through thought? Yeah, they don't have the physical needs we do because they only exist as thought forms now There's an old Star Trek where they found a society so advanced there were these luminous globes and they just wanted to go back into a human body to experience it temporarily So occasionally, have you ever heard of gods wanting to or spiritual beings wanting to go and take control of a human body for short time? Exorcist. Hello the movie. You know remember demons are gods that fell out of favor right we had a president that is demonized he's a demon right to some and these God to others oh wait a second aren't there secret societies that are called Satan worshippers To them is that a negative entity no

55:56 Yes, and when I went through the Godspeak series and when I was preparing for this. I thought we were going to be putting the gods in a context of thought forms that they are on a spiritual non-physical plane and they sometimes interact with us maybe they pull the strings from this place but you took me down this whole other path that there actually just using some kind of technology to do such a thing. And so now I'm a little confused, like it almost seems like atheism is the right paradigm because there is no spiritual plane? Is that what we're saying or... No there is! It's just the variety is so great look at all the animal species on the you know if I told you there was half a million species of insects not half a million insects have a million species and there's millions and billions of each one of those

56:47 There is a veritable plurality in existence, especially here on earth. The spiritual aspect of it is of the mind and again when you go to atheism this is my answer to atheists okay? You're an atheist so you don't believe in God right I don't like that term god but they usually answer yes. I said okay then do you believe in the laws of the state and they say yes well then the state is your god and April 1st is your holiday In other words, it's a default back to the purpose of the gods is to what? Disseminate transmit information on how to be. How to live. It sounds logical you know The nature being right and then it goes to eschatology which is how things end up. It's very simple so the atheist is basically telling you they get their law from the state and that's there god its a default thing by the way when you look at all the state buildings don't they have a statue of a god or something on top of the dome

57:40 I'm kinda goddess or something they know what's going on people are very simple but there's two types of simple their symbol in good. And there's some pollen not good i didn't say bad like recently i was having a discussion with the corporate person and they wanna do this type of banking is that no i don't do that every day more for money, And i said you listen to all this yes notice your getting heated on this discussion about finances it doesn't make you bad that u wanna be corporate but tell you what definitely doesnt make you good either so what is that mean is that a great area not exactly, can someone not be bad and also not be good and thats the point here with the gods as well by the way. There's a lot of writing about that god of the bible responsible for more people dying than any other cause

58:30 or dictator. I'm sure you've heard that, right? Yeah yeah well you bring up a great point about state houses courthouses all this stuff there's always some kind of effigy or idol out front even there's one at Rockefeller Center and you could say that the Statue of Liberty might be availed idol of some kind, some say the goddess Columbia. And that's a big part of shows like this trying to unpack the secret religion of the elite is how it's usually framed that they aren't Jewish or Christian. They have a whole different paradigm. They might be worshipping Mithras or something weird like that, something more ancient and archaic

59:19 Is that a paradigm that you think is somewhat on the right track or are they having more of a relationship like this? Like it is just a couple of people that have a relationship. Very simple, when you ask someone that's doing something why they're doing and don't have an answer just because, right? Is that good enough for you? And if that's good enough for you everything's right but if its not good enough for you then everything isnot right notice I didn't say wrong Yeah, it wouldn't be good enough for me. I would want more details as to what motivates a certain person especially if we're talking about the level of like having a statue and certain symbols everywhere they go there seems to be some kind of power in the symbol some kinda power in the references too but they call the gods all powers direction of movement for example if you have a ferrari and just parked on the side of the road

1:00:20 What's up sports cars like that look like they're going a hundred miles an hour standing still you really don't know until you drive it and when you drive it are driving at forward or you driving in reverse. But its direction so power when let's say someone pulls the lever and pulls the pin out of her grenade accounts to five or ten and it goes off, The direction of force is from the center of the grenade outward, very power. You see? Power is an exhibit of direction and how fast that direction is moving like for example explosives are measured in feet per second so if I say this thing when it goes off high-speed chemistry is what people on the trade call it goes off at 200 feet per second okay this one goes off at 7000 feet per second oh you want to stay away from that one right

1:01:08 So power is about direction so when you see an idol isn't that a form of direction what's caught your view right. And then it has an effect on the mind so whatever your thinking about when you know someone most people look at things and don't acknowledge it but if you were to point that out to someone who, whats that on top of the building there oh yeah I've seen that before i dont really know where it is but their moment they figure out what it is now there thought directions changed and thats where the power is You see, but there's also in ritual it's having masses of people Super Bowl halftime by the way. It doesn't matter if they know what's going on as long as they partake

1:01:50 But here's the thing, one person partaking that knows what's going on you're gonna need a thousand people partaking if they don't know what's going on to have the same amount of power. Hence the secret society rituals. Secret society rituals are done with a group by the way it's a milieu of people two or more sometimes it could be dozens and those dozen people let's say offering to some ancient deity let's say have a lot more power than everyone watching the Super Bowl because they know what's going on. So again, it's direction is that the 200 feet per second chemical reaction or the 7000 feet per second chemical reaction? Sure sure It's all about direction

1:02:32 I think that makes sense. And when we think about gods as thought forms, I can understand why they would want attention. Attention could be a form of currency in the mental space or energy or food to a degree but that's different than saying that there are people manipulating us technologically. There could be both categories going on but Thought forms would have just entirely different dynamics as to what they value and how they feed or what they're interested in. Yes, yes again there are so many varieties Again the whole purpose of The Godspeak was to be contemplative and put forward rational discussion on basically whats been memorialized through history By the way whats been memorialized through history whenever you see a old book Or an old text that you find

1:03:25 You have to ask yourself, why do we have this on the surface? Why are they allowing us to see this because I will bet dollars to donuts as they say back in New York that if you go underground they'll pull out a manuscript of some sort and it'll look like it's decades old and its four or five thousand years old. That's how well all knowledge has been preserved. Library of Alexandria was emptied out before it was burned twice All the gold in the world trade center was emptied out using yellow rider vanzilla writer and show up by the way oklahoma anyway, so all these things are cleared out for disasters take place in a disaster that we have on the surface right now is called ignorance with a capital g. And i would um

1:04:11 I would just jump in real quick to say that if one loosely defines gods as the primary dynamic influence on this physical world, wherever that comes from. I don't think it's contradictory to say that there is an invisible spirit realm where some of those entities habitate and there is also a breakaway civilization made up of anthropomorphic beings on this side that can mask their presence and do things like time travel because going back to what the Greeks said about When truths are revealed to you through things, whether it's movies or comics that still counts as a reveal. And we've seen endlessly in various intellectual properties this notion of the hybrid what comes to mind for me something like Dragon Ball Z, the hybrid saying so these two things can exist in parallel that you have the thought forms or the thought world

1:04:59 and then you have some kind of embodiment on this side that interacts with that. And people going through forms like the occult to try to access that on their own, and yeah I mean we've also heard the Greek say in the past when it comes to the occult When you ask them, what are the gods behind your secret societies? Ultimately what you come away with is understanding that whatever those gods are they're there to compete for the people's attention and their allegiance. It's more that than anything else it's not necessarily you become a Freemason or Jesuit and then you conquer the world its more of you get absorbed into that system And thats what takes up your energy and time So rather then focusing on whatever let say the supreme deity might be

1:05:40 you've got your head buried in the Kabbalah trying to uncover something. I think that's the real reveal, I think of secret societies because wherever the highest truth is, I wouldn't say it's in those groups but by getting involved in those groups it becomes almost like a time suck or you could listen to God speak well this has been really super fascinating we're obviously getting close to the end of the road and I just want ask again maybe how people who are listening can use this information If they have this context we see a relationship with corporations and the elite, with the gods. And we know there might be something there but yet we haven't really been able to identify a certain god that would benefit us maybe their is really no

1:06:30 sense in doing that because the guy doesn't care though they do want our attention so it starts to get a little hairy as to how this information can be used we can avoid the false paradigms but how do we take advantage of the correct paradigm for ourselves oh wow i cant answer that directly im not gonna confabulate i cant answer that directly its a matter of choice and what degree of time and effort you wanna dedicate educate yourself on any matter especially this one. Well, you have found value in Yahweh and making that your chief God and I'd assume there's a logic as to why you did that compared to others? And you mentioned the laws but when a person is trying to make that decision for themselves where would you advise them to start

1:07:19 that seeking process? Simple. The value of any God to me is what they're transmitting to you in terms of what to do as a human. I'm oversimplifying that statement, right? Paraphrasing that statement so i would suggest to do what i did not because i did it and being egocentric or anything but when i was telling people the bible was written by Shakespeare that was...i don't know something i heard and was repeating how can i knock a movie i haven't seen right And i know a bad if i can't go more than fifteen minutes into a film i'm not gonna watch the rest of just i want to say it's about film i'll just said could watch more than fifteen minutes right. Same thing with the bible or just go find out where the laws what you could be doing what's considered lawful, we're set apart and see if that drives with you because there is a certain drive like people ask you know what your favorite color does have to be blue for everyone no

1:08:12 You see? So if it jives with you, guess what. Have fun! I'm having a lot of fun and had a lot of fun with it. Fair. Well let me ask the Archon before we go... have you incorporated this information and distilled it down into a personal relationship with some kind of god or gods or chief god or just use this in the way that you've decided to live your life? Well I'm still in the process coming to the ultimate realization of which direction to go in. I found that there's not much benefit to be had in rushing these things and trying to adopt sort-of the nearest truth to you, because truth often comes in puzzle pieces anyway and I would much rather have a more complete assemblage of pieces come together so that I can make those choices with a sort-of calm mind

1:09:06 So I have found that what i've learned through Godspeak and from speaking with the Greek largely does conform to, you know, the closest truth that I have at the moment. But I also know there's levels above that and I'm sort of still doing my own strivings to get those places but the primacy of the biblical text as something should be studied and contemplated for me has become self-evident I don't think it's a coincidence that the Christian religion, even though it is mostly based on fallacy and improper translation of the source documents has ultimately ruled over the major power bases in the world for the last 2000 years. And I don't think that's by coincidence. I also don't think its coincidence as Islam takes a lot of its genesis from the Old Testament and sort of goes into its own direction with it. Those are obviously the two biggest religions so

1:09:58 There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that speaks for that being something that people should consider. I consider it quite heavily, but then you also have to build your understanding out from that and i'm in the process still It's hard to understand the logic and all the rules, and understand where the thing might have been mistranslated. And if that's even what they meant with certain things but I agree that there is something interesting about its potency given all of the different things that have been written in all the people who've lived in the different eras that it still has so much energy behind it, yeah that is in itself interesting for sure. And it sounds like you're still waiting to be courted for the big dance by some god I put myself in that category as well and maybe we are our own gods some people say. Well I mean the structure of the human story regardless where you go whether its Mesopotamian traditions or mainstream religion or whatever generally tends to be the same if you really zoom out really far

1:11:02 that there was some type of a ideal situation at the beginning of so-called time, or at least the beginning of some chronology and then some cataclysm occurs and people fall into this sort of history of mortality and suffering and limitation. But there's a mode of being that will eventually come to transcend that. And then ultimately you have to decide what blueprint is most accurate for delineating the details within that story but certainly the biblical text is a good starting place. Right on, well again really interesting. I appreciate the insights lots to ponder is there a next step for you guys or any other topics or categories you might tackle with a new website or links to give people before we call it in?

1:11:45 Well, I would say that Godspeak was a follow-up effort to the GreekSpeak website. Having concluded the GreekSpeak podcast in 2018, I felt that we'd left certain things unexplored – themes around religions and the supernatural etc., and Greekspeak.com wasn't really the right venue to discuss that so... We did the Godspeak podcast covering a variety of topics. Unfortunately, we did fall short of the desired 10 episodes simply because things ran out But in order to not leave the entire enterprise hanging, and especially after our last appearance on your show I decided to set up a Patreon to make available most of the Greek's past recordings. Not only with Godspeak and Greekspeak but also previous internet radio shows that he was on

1:12:31 And so for people that have an interest in hearing things that the Greek has spoken of in the past and also want to hear what he's talking about currently, you can go to patreon.com slash greek speak with a G R E E K we have a $25 tier there where you can get access to both the past stuff and the most current ones if you're interested to hear more Right on, I like it. I'm sure there will be plenty of people who want to dive deeper and will hop on the Patreon and I appreciate your time guys! Greek any final words? Oh no i just want to thank you for being a very intelligent host with great questions. I try... It's hard, but I'm holding on. Yeah I'm ready to put it down and give my brain a break so thanks guys enjoy the rest of your day and take care

1:13:20 Oh thank you, it's been a pleasure. And when I listened to the Godspeak series, there were some interesting things in the episodes about the big three religions. But by far my favorite parts were in the first episode after the introduction titled The Ancient World which is described as a discussion on matters concerning ancient empires lost technology and mystery schools Well, I loved it and I tried to set the Greek up to get further into that material

1:14:12 But I guess i didn't realize how long ago that was recorded. The Archon told me that was years ago but in it they talk about the rise and fall of empires being united by a common god, these powerful spiritual forces welling up energy behind groups of people that pay homage and it really painted the gods as like the directors of the human play! I would go check that out if you're looking for a little more after finishing this But it seems like the Greeks' thoughts and positions have evolved a bit since then. And granted, when you come out of the gate citing archaics I know we're going deep but we almost worked backwards from a deep and wild and unique place of the gods just being ancient humans manipulating us with technology to settling on Yahweh as the Greek's chief god which i thought was a little

1:15:09 I mean, we want the truth. We want people to be honest but i also sometimes want that truth to be unexpected outside the box etc etc so the gods being advanced humans basically makes the abrahamic religions cargo cults and im into that it didn't take me long to wrap my head around that unexpected perspective and go with it its just not exactly what i had prepared for I wanted to get deeper into understanding the beings on the astral plane and their interactions on the physical plane. Because as The Archon finally stepped in to say, it's not either or—it seems like we're dealing with both! And that's where I would get lost at times in this. I wouldn't be sure if The Greek was speaking of ancient humans on our plane that are using manipulation to seem like something greater OR the literal beings who call the astral plane home

1:16:08 We seem to be bouncing back and forth quite a bit. So, I don't know lots of interesting threads woven throughout this but not so much overall cohesion i guess If you see the video clips from this episode, you might notice that I don't think I've ever referenced my outline less in an interview. I barely looked down at it all because it just quickly became irrelevant and it was clear the direction of the interview is pretty far from the direction of the outline that I prepared... And that's fine! Like, I want to be well-prepared but I'm happy to go with the flow

1:16:47 I actually talked to the Archon a bit afterwards and mentioned my disappointment with the Yahweh conclusion, and he said that he totally understands why i would feel that way. And it's very bittersweet because there is a lot of interesting and compelling information behind the why in choosing Yahweh...that we didn't really get too. And I agree- That IS bittersweet but it's alright! It happens Of course, we fit everything we could into the first hour but went much deeper in the Plus show for those who like to get full interviews and like to keep me employed. You miss a lot when you only hear the first free hour and there are no breaks to sell you therapy sessions or athletic greens or any of that stuff so I try to keep it action-packed either way

1:17:36 And this is a tangent, but I feel better than ever about the no ads decision. There are two big stories right now about agencies that have screwed over podcasters and just kept the money after they read the ads plus A lot of these products are turning out to be pretty lackluster and Podcasters will reach you any ad as long as they get paid and to me that erodes the relationship. I don't want to abuse our relationship by just selling you any old thing except more of the show that you already like. Manscaped razors, trash! The Lords and Ladies of Ireland buy a square foot of land thing? That was exposed as a scam And you can go watch nutritionalists break down what's in Athletic Greens or Prime It seems like their claims are wildly over exaggerated for what they are Foam mattresses not that great either

1:18:32 Yet these podcasters will say, I start every morning with athletic greens and i've never felt better. Or I got a satva mattress and I'm getting the best sleep of my life! And these are just lies...and there should be some consequences we just roll our eyes and let it happen but not into that blue chews and keeps these hair and dick pills who knows what else they do to the body over time Has any podcaster even thought to ask about long-term studies or side effects before hawking this shit to their audience? Or do they just ask, how much you gonna pay me. Seems like most people, podcasters and their audiences just don't care They see it as a necessary evil but I'm trying to prove its not necessary

1:19:20 And to me, integrity is important. So I think a second hour subscription is the best monetization method in podcasting for the kind of show that I do. Speaking of Patreon, The Archon also wanted me to emphasize that they have a lot of great content on their Patreon as well. Many years of the Greek dropping knowledge on a whole host of topics I find them to be a pretty compelling speaker and i've added a link to that if you want more from them as well And that said, I'm still very busy at home so I'm going to be quick with this but let's look at the meetup calendar

1:20:15 September 22nd, we got a meetup in Alamosa Colorado at the Purple Pig. Also September 22nd, a PlayStation Virtual Meet-Up interesting. September 24th The Hurricane Club meeting at Made West Brewing in Ventura California. September 29th Two Pitchers brewing and Oakland. September 30th A New Zealand meet up in Auckland and also September 30th the Columbia Missouri Twin Lakes meetup in conjunction with the No Agenda listeners. Very cool, it is a great way to build your network on the sort of common ground that will be important going forward lots of lonely people out there well do something about it make an event at a fun gathering place in your hometown support a local business give them a plug on the air and find the others

1:21:13 All totally available to you and free. Seems like a quadruple win if I've ever heard one. With that said, big thanks again to our guests! Check out GreekSpeakAndGodSpeak.com and their Patreon for more And with that...I've done my part Your move Ancient Manipulators Spiritual Puppet Masters and Agents of the Higher Realms You're fuckin' me The truth has been hidden from me myself got lizard people on top of the world and I wish it was somebody else believe it or not, the truth is out there for people who have the eyes to favorite show makes me more oh could it be The High Side Chats THC just watch the TV and obey

1:22:34 Take some more pills when you're blue We'll break you out of the spell that you're in Together we will make it through Believe it or not, the truth is out there For people who have the eyes to see Favorite show makes me Who could it be? The high side chat's here Sleep THC Is here for you Believe it or no

1:23:27 Believe it or not. Believe it or no-not. Believe it or not, the truth is out there for people who have the eyes to see. Favorite show makes me more oh, who could it be? The Higher Side Chats. Believe it or not, the truth is out there for people who have the eyes to see

1:24:07 My favorite show makes me more a- Who could it be? The Higher Side Chats THC