Topic: Jeff Hawes

Ken Thomas discusses an episode of the television show Route 66 starring Tuesday Weld that aired a year before the JFK assassination. The episode features a fictional town near Dallas called Kilkenny and various anagrams related to Marilyn Monroe. Thomas suggests these elements represent forecasts or synchronicities regarding the upcoming death of President John F. Kennedy.

Researcher Douglas Hawes joins the show to discuss his work on occult secret societies and his primary source, Jeff Turner. Turner is described as a Santa Cruz resident living on disability who claims to track cult priestesses and KGB agents. Hawes details their meeting in 1987 at a messianic Jewish congregation and the beginning of their long-term association.

Hawes reveals that Jeff Turner will appear in an Adult Swim show titled "Hot Package," a spoof of celebrity news programs. Greg Carlwood thanks Hawes for the interview and discusses the possibility of future segments featuring Turner or Peter Moon. The interview concludes with a final exchange of thanks between the hosts and the guest.